Biden Calls Saddam An "S.O.B." While Celebrating July 4 With Troops

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KIM GAMEL | July 4, 2009 04:38 PM EST | AP

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U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, right, talks with his son, U.S. Army Capt. Beau Biden, at Camp Victory on the outskirts of Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 4, 2009. Biden celebrated the Fourth of July with his son and other American troops in Iraq on Saturday, a day after warning Iraqi leaders that U.S. assistance will be jeopardized if the country reverts to ethnic and sectarian violence. Biden began Independence Day by greeting more than 200 U.S. soldiers who were becoming American citizens at a naturalization ceremony in a marble domed hall at one of Saddam Hussein's palaces at Camp Victory, the U.S. military headquarters on the outskirts of Baghdad. (AP Photo/ Khalid Mohammed, Pool)

BAGHDAD — Vice President Joe Biden spent the Fourth of July with his son and other American troops in Iraq on Saturday, while the Iraqi government spokesman publicly rejected the American's offer to help with national reconciliation, saying it's an internal affair.

Biden took a break from politics and presided over a naturalization ceremony for 237 U.S. troops from 59 countries in a marble rotunda at one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces at what is now Camp Victory, the U.S. military headquarters on the western outskirts of Baghdad.

He then had lunch with the 261st Theater Tactical Signal Brigade from Delaware, to which his son, Beau, belongs. Beau Biden stood in the back as his father greeted the troops. In telling the brigade about the naturalization ceremony, the vice president used some of his characteristic colorful language.

"We did it in Saddam's palace, and I can think of nothing better," he said. "That S.O.B. is rolling over in his grave right now."

Biden's unusually long three-day trip to Baghdad, which began late Thursday, was aimed at fostering political reconciliation after U.S. combat troops withdrew from Iraqi cities as part of a security pact that calls for a full withdrawal by the end of 2011.

Government's spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh's comments were in response to an appeal Biden made a day earlier for Iraqis to do more to bring the country's deeply divided factions together and his offer of U.S. help. Biden also warned Friday that U.S. assistance may not be forthcoming if the country reverts to ethnic and sectarian violence.

"The political situation won't accept that the United States intervenes in an internal issue, whether that issue is reconciliation, relations between various Iraqi groups or between the (self-ruled Kurdish) region and Baghdad," al-Dabbagh said on Iraqi state TV.

"The U.S. administration is concerned about the absence of progress on some political issues in Iraq and this is clear," he added. "But the prime minister said that these are internal issues and it is the Iraqis who will handle the matter and the interference of non-Iraqis in these issues will create unnecessary complications and problems."

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Al-Maliki is trying to use the U.S. withdrawal to build support before Jan. 30 general elections and his spokesman's remarks were likely aimed at an Iraqi public impatient with the American presence. But they also signaled a growing assertiveness by Iraqis as the U.S. dominance in the country wanes with its pullback of troops.

Al-Maliki's office also said the Iraqi government is committed to the national reconciliation process but excluded Saddam's ousted Baath Party, saying "it is responsible for the destruction inflicted on Iraq."

It was Biden's first visit to Iraq as vice president and as Obama's new unofficial point man on Iraq, although he has been to the country several times as a senator. Biden planned to fly to the semiautonomous Kurdish region in northern Iraq later Saturday, but the trip was canceled due to heavy sandstorms.

In closed-door meetings Friday, the vice president pressed al-Maliki and other political leaders to do more to bring Iraq's divided factions together, as concerns grow that a lack of political progress is fueling violence in Iraq.

While Biden stressed America's commitment to Iraq's progress in his public remarks, a senior U.S. official said the vice president warned the Iraqis that America won't be able to stay involved if Iraq falls back into the cycle of sectarian violence that pushed the country to the brink of civil war in 2006 and 2007.

Al-Maliki has been criticized for failing to take advantage of security gains to make progress in overcoming disputes between Shiites, Sunnis, Kurds and other groups, leaving a stalemate that has threatened to erupt into violence and stalled a key oil bill and other legislation.

Biden's visit and his new position overseeing the U.S. administration's Iraq policy reflect growing concern about a recent rise in violence after a series of bombings that killed scores of people.

A roadside bomb exploded in Youssifiyah, south of Baghdad, on Saturday, killing one civilian and wounding five others, police said.

Violence remains at low levels in Iraq compared with previous years, but a series of bombings that killed scores of people raised concerns about the run-up to the parliamentary elections.

At least 447 Iraqi civilians were killed in June, double the toll from the previous month, according to an Associated Press tally.

Sunni lawmaker Hashim Yahya called on Biden to pressure neighboring countries to stop interfering in Iraqi affairs, a reference to mainly Shiite Iran, which the U.S. military also alleges is supporting violence in Iraq.

But, he said, Biden could not force Iraqi factions to resolve their differences.

"Biden can do nothing to impose concessions or national reconciliation on the Iraqis unless the politicians decide to put an end to their disputes," he said. "But we welcome any efforts by Biden to help Iraqi politicians resolve their differences for the sake of Iraq."

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Associated Press Writer Sameer N. Yacoub contributed to this report.

BAGHDAD — Vice President Joe Biden spent the Fourth of July with his son and other American troops in Iraq on Saturday, while the Iraqi government spokesman publicly rejected the American's offe...
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- Academic I'm a Fan of Academic 239 fans permalink

Will this poor excuse for a VP just shut up and stop putting his foot in his mouth? I'm sure he's well aware that Donald Rumsfeld and the neo-cons also used that term about Saddam Hussein but did so affectionately. The quote was: "Saddam Hussein might be a SOB but he's our SOB."

Where was Joe Biden then, a man who has been in the Senate for an eternity? What were his comments then? Or for that matter criticisms of his fellow politicians for making this comment.

But of course Saddam was the US's boy then doing their bidding; like waging war on Iran. This kind of deliberate, convenient memory and double standards, a quest to have one's 5 minute of fame really pi**es me off. But then I always thought that making Biden VP was like putting a paedophile priest in charge of a children's home.

Professor Dr. Stanley Collymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 07/06/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 368 fans permalink
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Just because I think invading Iraq was a really stupid idea doesn't mean that Saddam wasn't a major-league S.O.B.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 07/05/2009
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hear, hear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 07/05/2009
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right-o

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 07/05/2009
- paulbikes I'm a Fan of paulbikes 6 fans permalink

biden... i hope he runs for re-election with someone else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 07/05/2009
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That rude American imperialist guy called your hero a icky name.
This that hurt your feelings?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 07/05/2009
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 57 fans permalink

Palin would be good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 07/06/2009

Best thing Biden has said so far....I love it....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 07/05/2009
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 77 fans permalink

Kicking a dead horse, but I suppose this is meant to make the soldiers there feel as if we accomplished something in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 07/04/2009

They know they accomplished a lot, when all you did was complain....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 07/05/2009
- Bcasey11 I'm a Fan of Bcasey11 13 fans permalink
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yay illegal war?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 07/04/2009

Biden began Independence Day by greeting more than 200 U.S. soldiers who were becoming American citizens at a naturalization ceremony in a marble domed hall at one of Saddam Hussein's palaces at Camp Victory, the U.S. military headquarters on the outskirts of Baghdad. (AP Photo/ Khalid Mohammed, Pool)

Isn't that something

God Bless the illegals!

Thank you for serviing=

more than the GOP war mongers have done

God Bless all our troops

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 07/04/2009
- gevan I'm a Fan of gevan 18 fans permalink

"... from 59 countries..." So that's what happened to the coalition of the willing. They are now American citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 07/04/2009

isn;t that pitiful

all the loud mouths are where-

crawford or alexandria va

God Bless the illegals

our own americans are wimps

yet they are the first to talk about Iran

N Korea

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 07/04/2009
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 57 fans permalink

and blame the current economic crisis in California on illegals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 07/06/2009
- mcmchugh99 I'm a Fan of mcmchugh99 80 fans permalink

Yes, that's what Saddam was,and he deserved to hang. He was no loss to the world. Let's hope the Iraqis willlearn from history and never allow anyone like that to come to power again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 07/04/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 19 fans permalink

So long as the US is involved the Iraqis have little choice!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 07/04/2009
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 109 fans permalink
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not really freedom now is it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 07/04/2009
- Vote2bfree I'm a Fan of Vote2bfree 14 fans permalink

You're young aren't you? Or don't remember history very well...you need to do a little research and see who "helped" Saddam get into power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 07/04/2009
- JerryLevy I'm a Fan of JerryLevy 53 fans permalink
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Saddam Hussain: After murdering thousands in his own country, some by poison gas, some by horific torture, most by hanging, he moved on to kill a million people in the iraq/iran war. Then he was responsible for the killing of 40,000 people in Kuwait. He kidnapped an additional 600 who were never seen again. After completely destroying Kuwait, he threatened the other surrounding countries, violated all the cease fire and economic sanctions and in complicity with the UN used the oil for food money for his own family and supporters. I have no problem with SOB. and I have no problem saying we liberated Iraq from this Hitlarian dictator and Iraq has its first democracy in 400 years. Thank you Marines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 07/04/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 19 fans permalink

Such blatent ignorance you spout!
Us Corporate America made Saddam and killed a million Iraqis in the process and the beat goes on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 07/04/2009
- lkim65 I'm a Fan of lkim65 16 fans permalink

Wow Jerry, you either have selective memory or need to catch up on Internatio­nal/Middle East affairs. Yes, Hussein did these things but it was the good ole USA that backed him. It was us that gave him money, weapons and chemical weapons for the Iran/Iraq War. We didn't care that he/we killed hundreds of thousands of people and permanently maimed many thousands more. Why because we were still all pissy about Iran and the fall of the 'lovely' Shah, whom by the way WE installed after WE overthrew Mossadegh back in '53. All because of oil. So yea Saddam is to blame but we are eqaully to blame as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 07/04/2009
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Thank you lkim65, what you said was something, I suppose completely skipped Jerry mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 07/04/2009
- piul05 I'm a Fan of piul05 48 fans permalink
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Very well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 07/04/2009
- JerryLevy I'm a Fan of JerryLevy 53 fans permalink
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You are factually incorrect-­----Hussai­n was the Soviet's and the European's man but he was not ours. It was France that sold him a nuclear reactor and it was the Germans that sold him the chemical weapons and it was the EU that tried to get the UN to lift sanctions so they could sell him more weapons. We never sold Iraq chemical weapons. We did give some logistical support to Iraq well after they started the Iran/Iraq war because Iran was threatening to launch a war on us and our allies. You know if two people are threatening to kill you it is nice to have them fighting each other. WE did not kill hundreds of thousands of people, WE fought the UN and Europe to keep sanctions on this despot to bring him down, WE liberated Kuwait from this killer, WE liberated millions of Iraqis from this despot, no one else did. WE had no relations with the killer until 1983, long after he launched the war and we broke relations as soon as he invaded Kuwait.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 07/04/2009
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 57 fans permalink

IDF assignment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 07/06/2009
- piul05 I'm a Fan of piul05 48 fans permalink
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That's classy...not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 07/04/2009
- amiri1 I'm a Fan of amiri1 13 fans permalink
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Gotta love Joe

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 07/04/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 19 fans permalink

Love?
Yes love Joe, but love all....all!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 07/04/2009
- jmundstuk I'm a Fan of jmundstuk 8 fans permalink

Jeez, Joe!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 07/04/2009
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 57 fans permalink

This is only one of several scarey comments Joe has made recently. His statements tacitly supoorting an Israeli bombing of Iran are very scareeeeeeeeeeeeey. This man is a heartbeat away from the Presidency. Doesn't make me feel very secure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 07/06/2009

But he was "Our SOB".

That should be a warning for any other SOBs we may have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 07/04/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 19 fans permalink

Indeed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 07/04/2009
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