Schumer: With Franken Seated No Need To Compromise On Public Option

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First Posted: 07- 6-09 11:55 AM   |   Updated: 08- 6-09 05:12 AM

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One of the leading Senate Democrats in the health care reform battle said that the seating of Al Franken has given the party the purpose and direction it needs to ensure that a public option for insurance coverage remains in any bill.

"If you did a consensus within the Democratic Party, you would find the level-playing-field public option to be the answer," said Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. "And now that we have 60 votes, it seems to me like we don't have to turn it inside out for something we don't like."

In an interview with the Huffington Post conducted over the July 4 weekend, Schumer offered a detailed and frank assessment of the political landscape of the current health care debate. Predicting that the final bill will include a public plan, he painted the Republican Party as rigid to a fault when it comes to negotiations.

"This is where we are going to end up," he said of a health care overhaul that included a public plan. "And I think, it would be much better for the Senate Finance Committee if we did it in the committee... I think the Senate HELP committee compromised already, because you have a lot of members on the HELP committee who would've liked [the public option] to be much closer to Medicare. The idea seems to be catching everybody's imagination, and sense of fairness. And the only holdouts are sort of ideologues on the Republican side of this saying no government involvement whatsoever."

At this juncture, Schumer added, there were potentially nonnegotiable divides between the proposals offered by the few moderate Republicans and the sentiments of the vast majority of the Democratic Party. This included the notion of having a public option with triggers, which because it would require that certain economic conditions be met before the government plan became operational, is seen as a possible compromise approach.

"My bottom-line criteria is that it has to be strong, national, and available to everyone on day one, to keep the insurance companies honest and I'm not sure we can get there," Schumer said. "I've been talking to [Sen.] Olympia [Snowe] about this," he added, referring to the trigger option's main proponent in the Senate, "but I'm not sure we can bridge that gap."

Similarly critical remarks were offered for the idea of replacing a public plan with health care co-ops, which Schumer described as insufficient and unpractical.

"[Sen. Chuck] Grassley hasn't closed the door, but it seems in general that his model of co-op is little co-ops popping up like they do in farm country," he said. "And the model that we are saying we need is they have to be strong, national and available everywhere from the first day. And I think we are very far apart on this."

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"So I don't think the co-op way can work," Schumer added. "So let's go back and do what we should be doing: a public option."

Over the past few months, Schumer has taken a leading role in charting the Democratic Party's approach to the health care debate. He has often pushed the envelope further than any of his colleagues, drawing lines in the sand on a public option and eagerly calling out the GOP, when the modus operandi among most Democrats has been to pursue bipartisanship. In public, the progressive community has praised his leadership. In private, they've wished that the Obama White House would adopt a similarly aggressive posture.

"The White House has stuck with me on a public option and they consulted with me early on and so far so good," said Schumer, when asked if the president had been too passive in his approach to health care. "On public option, I think Obama's stayed pretty strong. And I think the idea of him coming in when needed is important. And the main function he's been having is not taking any specific provision but saying 'get it done, get it done, get it done.' That's [Chief of Staff] Rahm [Emanuel]'s mantra. And that's helpful."

The next few weeks, as Schumer noted, could be the most critical yet in the process of crafting a health care bill. The Finance and HELP committee will begin seeing how and where their two bills can be combined. At the same time, lobbying efforts are expected to be stepped up on the Hill, with the targets likely to be Democrats already skeptical of the public plan.

That said, the past week included two key breakthroughs for progressives hoping to lead the reform process. The first was the Congressional Budget Office scoring the HELP committee's proposal at a relatively slim $600 billion. Though Schumer noted that the figure could rise with amendments, he added, "what the CBO is saying, if you're a fiscal conservative you ought to be for a public option because it saves money."

The other advance was the seating of Al Franken as Senator of Minnesota, which, theoretically, should give the Democratic Party the voting margin it needs to withstand a Republican filibuster.

"I think Democrats, now that we have 60, it's an opportunity but it's a greater responsibility," said Schumer. "And unity among ourselves is very important."

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Just be sure to spell the names voting for this mistake correctly...

As things go bad, the people will want to know who to blame. It won't be pretty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 07/07/2009
- hsr0601 I'm a Fan of hsr0601 2 fans permalink

People are so worried about losing their job, coverage, denial of treatment, which seems to increase bank deposit latetly. That means stimulus funding mainly goes toward bank deposit for a rainy day increasing jobless rate. It proves again that a healthy society yields better productivity, prosperity.
It is time to 'Change' the notion of the public health as a fundamental human right and install 'a safety system for all' like all of the other industrialized nations, I think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 AM on 07/07/2009
- Chip W I'm a Fan of Chip W 18 fans permalink

It's getting hard not to see a large group on the right as one unthinking blob. Vague principles that predetermine conclusions without asking questions and without the need to have any understanding of what they're opposed to.
Boulders in the road. They're just in the way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 AM on 07/07/2009
- billw8017 I'm a Fan of billw8017 32 fans permalink

If the Democrats will just honor the Bernie Sander's Principle and come together to shut off debate as necessary in the Senate, they can indulge the blue dogs among them afterward. We need a solid kind of health care program this year because it will give the voters a chance to see how it works and, perhaps, establish its popularity.

A certain faction among the Republicans will never come around, but even wish to abolish Social Security and Medicare (Texas state GOP platform, 1996(?), the Galveston exception). However, once we get past the primaries next year, serious Republican candidates will move toward the center. 71% of Americans approve of a single payer plan on the model of Medicare and the nations with the best health care results. 51% of Republicans are among us.

Democrats should stand firm, as Shumer argues, if only to save the Republicans from their own radicals. The lesson from 1994 is that Democrats must deliver.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 07/07/2009

No, it isn't a charity. It's a scam. It's privatized socialism, as is all business. The businesses are the parasites that live on the society. They depend on socialism to support them, but keep the profits to themselves and partners in crime. If all Americans dropped their private insurance coverage, we would have single payer in a month.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 07/07/2009
- Tazru I'm a Fan of Tazru 65 fans permalink
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You seem to be describing fascism, or corporatism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 07/07/2009
- billw8017 I'm a Fan of billw8017 32 fans permalink

Huh? Somebodies been reading WAWilliams, the Tragedy of American Diplomacy. Hoover was an odd kind of guy. His breakout into socialism, fascism, and capitalism seems almost radical in a person of such conservative bon afides.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 07/07/2009
- Tazru I'm a Fan of Tazru 65 fans permalink
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Everybody needs to buy a dictionary and use it. If we are going to use words we should know what they mean!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 07/07/2009

I wish someone would blitz the media with the names of both Republicans and Democrats who have taken millions of dollars over the years from the Insurance and Pharmaceutical industry. I bet the most outspoken Republicans on the healthcare issue have gotten the most money on their side and the Democrats that are dragging their feet on the matter have received more than their share.

The only way to get these whores to finally vote for something that benefits the average taxpayer is to shame them every day from now on with a blitz informing the public about how much money it has taken to buy their vote against a healthcare plan.

Just names , dollar amounts and where they stand on this issue will tell the whole story. This is what it has been all about from the very beginning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 07/06/2009
- jhm1953 I'm a Fan of jhm1953 2 fans permalink

Great Idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 07/06/2009
- Samalabear I'm a Fan of Samalabear 63 fans permalink
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It's a great idea, but at this point it's up to us. However you want to get the names out. I am Formulating an idea in my head right now. I got the idea from a house that up for sale for over 2 years. Attached to the sign was a plastic packet that had handouts about the house, I assume with all the stats and pics and everything. Anyway, a lot of the advocacy groups are selling lawn signs. I believe Dr. Dean's site sells them and you'll have to check on the others -- or make your own, You can make up a sheet of these stats and print up some of the benefits of single payer. You can printout benefits from a variety of sites, or check out the chart on this page -- very simple on Medicare for All would be like:

http://medicareforall.net/1index.html

It's just one thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 07/06/2009
- Tazru I'm a Fan of Tazru 65 fans permalink
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We desperately need to teach Systems Theory and Comparative Religions in our schools to combat the wilful ignorance in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 07/06/2009

Exactly. Invest in education, and your country elects better presidents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 07/06/2009
- lady49 I'm a Fan of lady49 8 fans permalink

There really is no need to compromise--can you talk to the Democratic hold outs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 07/06/2009

I think Senator Schumer is dreaming if he thinks every Democrat Senator is going to vote for a public option. Just wait until the insurance industry and Republican allies start beating their brains in with TV ads in their States. I hope I'm wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 07/06/2009

They don't need to vote for the public option, but they probably will vote for cloture. A Democrat that filibusters with the Republicans will face real problems in 2010. Some of those include Blanche Lincoln and Evan Bayh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 07/06/2009
- coliwabl I'm a Fan of coliwabl 3 fans permalink

Now if they will just stop yapping, get it passed and get it to the public.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 07/06/2009

This 'default' public plan they are suggesting is a ploy/

D- from Delaware - rcvd over 350,000 USD in campaign contributions for 2010 Race

Look at the Homeowners Insurance that is not offered in Hurricane states like FL

Allstate and State Farm just quit offering insurance -

What default plan did the insurance companies leave for the homeowners in FL?

State insurance- that was virturally worthless

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 07/06/2009
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

What insurance company in their right mind would offer coverage in a hurricane state?

If they could operate at a profit, they would do so.

Insurance is not charity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 07/06/2009
- coliwabl I'm a Fan of coliwabl 3 fans permalink

FLa homeowners are getting just what they deserve. You supported Jebediah and his goon squad of corporate carpetbaggers. Now live what what you created!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 07/06/2009
- lysistrata I'm a Fan of lysistrata 18 fans permalink

Hurrican states need better building codes too. The states are not doing what they should do, including regulating the insurance industry better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 07/06/2009
- MJinCanada I'm a Fan of MJinCanada 103 fans permalink

Last year Mike Holmes (Holmes on Homes) did a series in New Orleans in connection with a foundation Brad Pitt put together to help people who still didn't have homes after Hurricane Katrina. The series is being aired now, if you can find it. They built a state-of-the-art hurricane-proof, flood-proof, energy-efficient home for a widow and her grandchildren. I have no idea what it cost, but I suspect it will be still be there and livable a hundred years from now.

However, the most important thing is look where you're building. I do work for a geologist, and he's testified in court cases that the developer and contractor willfully chose to build homes in a clearly unstable or unsafe area. (If the trees are at a 45 degree angle, that's a clue.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 07/07/2009
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Lets hope Senator Shumer is right- a public option must be included in any reform package.

Anything less is reform in the guise of a paper tiger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 07/06/2009
- periscope I'm a Fan of periscope 5 fans permalink

The Congress has appropriated over $1 trillion/year for "Defense" and unnecessary wars (Iraq). They also passed a tax cut for the richest Americans, at the behest of Bushboy, that will cost in excess of $1 trillion over it's ten year life.
Somehow we have money for senseless wars and for tax cuts, but we don't have $1 trillion over the next ten years to fund a healthcare plan that all Americans want and need?
I say we rescind the tax cuts before they expire, cut Defense costs to the bone, get the hell out of Iraq, and let's fund a healthcare plan that America can live with!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 07/06/2009
- indy100 I'm a Fan of indy100 23 fans permalink
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What, spend money to take care of average American citizens? That just makes WAY too much sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 07/06/2009
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AMEN. Preach it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 07/06/2009
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An old story, but not uncommon. This is exactly what's at stake! This is exactly why we need meaningful universal heath-care that covers every single citizen rich or poor.

***http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/27/AR2007022702116_pf.html***

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 07/06/2009
- MJinCanada I'm a Fan of MJinCanada 103 fans permalink

In Canada, dental care isn't covered under medicare, but most provinces have some kind of program for school age children and low-income families for dental care and eye exams and glasses.

In fact, in our inner city neighbourhood, if you don't sign the permission slip to let your kid go for a free dental exam at the dental technician college, the school will phone to find out why. Ten thousand "Libertarians" will scream "nanny state" at this, but I prefer our results.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 07/07/2009
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Democrat, Republican, either way my tax money is going to the rich.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 07/06/2009
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

Welcome to life on earth as a human being. When has this ever not been the case?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/06/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 62 fans permalink

And you're willing to hand your children over to it, instead of fighting for change?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 07/06/2009
- Tazru I'm a Fan of Tazru 65 fans permalink
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We need to work together if we ever hope to escape the Feudal mentality that holds us ALL back. Why be eager to roll over for the over-privileged?

I'm sure after others make sacrifices to achieve improvements, you will be there with your hand out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 07/06/2009
- marxmarv I'm a Fan of marxmarv 24 fans permalink
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"I think Democrats, now that we have 60, it's an opportunity but it's a greater responsibility," said Schumer. "And unity among ourselves is very important."

Know what, Reid? You're fired.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 07/06/2009
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

He is? Says who?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 07/06/2009
- marxmarv I'm a Fan of marxmarv 24 fans permalink
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Hopefully the voters of Nevada.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/06/2009
- Tommygun264 I'm a Fan of Tommygun264 186 fans permalink
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The Senate Democrats can replace Reid as majority leader at any time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 07/06/2009
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