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Schumer: With Franken Seated No Need To Compromise On Public Option

First Posted: 8/6/09 Updated: 5/25/11

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One of the leading Senate Democrats in the health care reform battle said that the seating of Al Franken has given the party the purpose and direction it needs to ensure that a public option for insurance coverage remains in any bill.

"If you did a consensus within the Democratic Party, you would find the level-playing-field public option to be the answer," said Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. "And now that we have 60 votes, it seems to me like we don't have to turn it inside out for something we don't like."

In an interview with the Huffington Post conducted over the July 4 weekend, Schumer offered a detailed and frank assessment of the political landscape of the current health care debate. Predicting that the final bill will include a public plan, he painted the Republican Party as rigid to a fault when it comes to negotiations.

"This is where we are going to end up," he said of a health care overhaul that included a public plan. "And I think, it would be much better for the Senate Finance Committee if we did it in the committee... I think the Senate HELP committee compromised already, because you have a lot of members on the HELP committee who would've liked [the public option] to be much closer to Medicare. The idea seems to be catching everybody's imagination, and sense of fairness. And the only holdouts are sort of ideologues on the Republican side of this saying no government involvement whatsoever."

At this juncture, Schumer added, there were potentially nonnegotiable divides between the proposals offered by the few moderate Republicans and the sentiments of the vast majority of the Democratic Party. This included the notion of having a public option with triggers, which because it would require that certain economic conditions be met before the government plan became operational, is seen as a possible compromise approach.

"My bottom-line criteria is that it has to be strong, national, and available to everyone on day one, to keep the insurance companies honest and I'm not sure we can get there," Schumer said. "I've been talking to [Sen.] Olympia [Snowe] about this," he added, referring to the trigger option's main proponent in the Senate, "but I'm not sure we can bridge that gap."

Similarly critical remarks were offered for the idea of replacing a public plan with health care co-ops, which Schumer described as insufficient and unpractical.

"[Sen. Chuck] Grassley hasn't closed the door, but it seems in general that his model of co-op is little co-ops popping up like they do in farm country," he said. "And the model that we are saying we need is they have to be strong, national and available everywhere from the first day. And I think we are very far apart on this."

"So I don't think the co-op way can work," Schumer added. "So let's go back and do what we should be doing: a public option."

Over the past few months, Schumer has taken a leading role in charting the Democratic Party's approach to the health care debate. He has often pushed the envelope further than any of his colleagues, drawing lines in the sand on a public option and eagerly calling out the GOP, when the modus operandi among most Democrats has been to pursue bipartisanship. In public, the progressive community has praised his leadership. In private, they've wished that the Obama White House would adopt a similarly aggressive posture.

"The White House has stuck with me on a public option and they consulted with me early on and so far so good," said Schumer, when asked if the president had been too passive in his approach to health care. "On public option, I think Obama's stayed pretty strong. And I think the idea of him coming in when needed is important. And the main function he's been having is not taking any specific provision but saying 'get it done, get it done, get it done.' That's [Chief of Staff] Rahm [Emanuel]'s mantra. And that's helpful."

The next few weeks, as Schumer noted, could be the most critical yet in the process of crafting a health care bill. The Finance and HELP committee will begin seeing how and where their two bills can be combined. At the same time, lobbying efforts are expected to be stepped up on the Hill, with the targets likely to be Democrats already skeptical of the public plan.

That said, the past week included two key breakthroughs for progressives hoping to lead the reform process. The first was the Congressional Budget Office scoring the HELP committee's proposal at a relatively slim $600 billion. Though Schumer noted that the figure could rise with amendments, he added, "what the CBO is saying, if you're a fiscal conservative you ought to be for a public option because it saves money."

The other advance was the seating of Al Franken as Senator of Minnesota, which, theoretically, should give the Democratic Party the voting margin it needs to withstand a Republican filibuster.

"I think Democrats, now that we have 60, it's an opportunity but it's a greater responsibility," said Schumer. "And unity among ourselves is very important."

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12:52 PM on 07/07/2009
Just be sure to spell the names voting for this mistake correctly.­..

As things go bad, the people will want to know who to blame. It won't be pretty.
07:14 AM on 07/07/2009
People are so worried about losing their job, coverage, denial of treatment, which seems to increase bank deposit latetly. That means stimulus funding mainly goes toward bank deposit for a rainy day increasing jobless rate. It proves again that a healthy society yields better productivi­ty, prosperity­.
It is time to 'Change' the notion of the public health as a fundamenta­l human right and install 'a safety system for all' like all of the other industrial­ized nations, I think.
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07:02 AM on 07/07/2009
It's getting hard not to see a large group on the right as one unthinking blob. Vague principles that predetermi­ne conclusion­s without asking questions and without the need to have any understand­ing of what they're opposed to.
Boulders in the road. They're just in the way.
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billw8017
09:45 AM on 07/07/2009
If the Democrats will just honor the Bernie Sander's Principle and come together to shut off debate as necessary in the Senate, they can indulge the blue dogs among them afterward. We need a solid kind of health care program this year because it will give the voters a chance to see how it works and, perhaps, establish its popularity­.

A certain faction among the Republican­s will never come around, but even wish to abolish Social Security and Medicare (Texas state GOP platform, 1996(?), the Galveston exception)­. However, once we get past the primaries next year, serious Republican candidates will move toward the center. 71% of Americans approve of a single payer plan on the model of Medicare and the nations with the best health care results. 51% of Republican­s are among us.

Democrats should stand firm, as Shumer argues, if only to save the Republican­s from their own radicals. The lesson from 1994 is that Democrats must deliver.
02:57 AM on 07/07/2009
No, it isn't a charity. It's a scam. It's privatized socialism, as is all business. The businesses are the parasites that live on the society. They depend on socialism to support them, but keep the profits to themselves and partners in crime. If all Americans dropped their private insurance coverage, we would have single payer in a month.
09:13 AM on 07/07/2009
You seem to be describing fascism, or corporatis­m.
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billw8017
09:30 AM on 07/07/2009
Huh? Somebodies been reading WAWilliams­, the Tragedy of American Diplomacy. Hoover was an odd kind of guy. His breakout into socialism, fascism, and capitalism seems almost radical in a person of such conservati­ve bon afides.
10:05 AM on 07/07/2009
Everybody needs to buy a dictionary and use it. If we are going to use words we should know what they mean!
07:45 PM on 07/06/2009
I wish someone would blitz the media with the names of both Republican­s and Democrats who have taken millions of dollars over the years from the Insurance and Pharmaceut­ical industry. I bet the most outspoken Republican­s on the healthcare issue have gotten the most money on their side and the Democrats that are dragging their feet on the matter have received more than their share.

The only way to get these whores to finally vote for something that benefits the average taxpayer is to shame them every day from now on with a blitz informing the public about how much money it has taken to buy their vote against a healthcare plan.

Just names , dollar amounts and where they stand on this issue will tell the whole story. This is what it has been all about from the very beginning.
08:33 PM on 07/06/2009
Great Idea.
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Samalabear
11:46 PM on 07/06/2009
It's a great idea, but at this point it's up to us. However you want to get the names out. I am Formulatin­g an idea in my head right now. I got the idea from a house that up for sale for over 2 years. Attached to the sign was a plastic packet that had handouts about the house, I assume with all the stats and pics and everything­. Anyway, a lot of the advocacy groups are selling lawn signs. I believe Dr. Dean's site sells them and you'll have to check on the others -- or make your own, You can make up a sheet of these stats and print up some of the benefits of single payer. You can printout benefits from a variety of sites, or check out the chart on this page -- very simple on Medicare for All would be like:

http://med­icareforal­l.net/1ind­ex.html

It's just one thought.
07:20 PM on 07/06/2009
We desperatel­y need to teach Systems Theory and Comparativ­e Religions in our schools to combat the wilful ignorance in America.
09:44 PM on 07/06/2009
Exactly. Invest in education, and your country elects better presidents­.
06:57 PM on 07/06/2009
There really is no need to compromise­--can you talk to the Democratic hold outs?
06:52 PM on 07/06/2009
I think Senator Schumer is dreaming if he thinks every Democrat Senator is going to vote for a public option. Just wait until the insurance industry and Republican allies start beating their brains in with TV ads in their States. I hope I'm wrong.
07:40 PM on 07/06/2009
They don't need to vote for the public option, but they probably will vote for cloture. A Democrat that filibuster­s with the Republican­s will face real problems in 2010. Some of those include Blanche Lincoln and Evan Bayh.
05:59 PM on 07/06/2009
Now if they will just stop yapping, get it passed and get it to the public.
05:48 PM on 07/06/2009
This 'default' public plan they are suggesting is a ploy/

D- from Delaware - rcvd over 350,000 USD in campaign contributi­ons for 2010 Race

Look at the Homeowners Insurance that is not offered in Hurricane states like FL

Allstate and State Farm just quit offering insurance -

What default plan did the insurance companies leave for the homeowners in FL?

State insurance- that was virturally worthless
05:57 PM on 07/06/2009
What insurance company in their right mind would offer coverage in a hurricane state?

If they could operate at a profit, they would do so.

Insurance is not charity.
05:57 PM on 07/06/2009
FLa homeowners are getting just what they deserve. You supported Jebediah and his goon squad of corporate carpetbagg­ers. Now live what what you created!
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dragonmaster
05:46 PM on 07/06/2009
Lets hope Senator Shumer is right- a public option must be included in any reform package.

Anything less is reform in the guise of a paper tiger.
05:36 PM on 07/06/2009
The Congress has appropriat­ed over $1 trillion/y­ear for "Defense" and unnecessar­y wars (Iraq). They also passed a tax cut for the richest Americans, at the behest of Bushboy, that will cost in excess of $1 trillion over it's ten year life.
Somehow we have money for senseless wars and for tax cuts, but we don't have $1 trillion over the next ten years to fund a healthcare plan that all Americans want and need?
I say we rescind the tax cuts before they expire, cut Defense costs to the bone, get the hell out of Iraq, and let's fund a healthcare plan that America can live with!
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indy100
06:49 PM on 07/06/2009
What, spend money to take care of average American citizens? That just makes WAY too much sense.
06:51 PM on 07/06/2009
AMEN. Preach it.
05:29 PM on 07/06/2009
An old story, but not uncommon. This is exactly what's at stake! This is exactly why we need meaningful universal heath-care that covers every single citizen rich or poor.

***http://www­.washingto­npost.com/­wp-dyn/con­tent/artic­le/2007/02­/27/AR2007­022702116_­pf.html***
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
05:16 PM on 07/07/2009
In Canada, dental care isn't covered under medicare, but most provinces have some kind of program for school age children and low-income families for dental care and eye exams and glasses.

In fact, in our inner city neighbourh­ood, if you don't sign the permission slip to let your kid go for a free dental exam at the dental technician college, the school will phone to find out why. Ten thousand "Libertari­ans" will scream "nanny state" at this, but I prefer our results.
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lazercat2008
05:06 PM on 07/06/2009
Democrat, Republican­, either way my tax money is going to the rich.
05:11 PM on 07/06/2009
Welcome to life on earth as a human being. When has this ever not been the case?
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Mikeeee
OPERATION NORTHWOODS - It's important you know it.
05:34 PM on 07/06/2009
And you're willing to hand your children over to it, instead of fighting for change?
06:03 PM on 07/06/2009
We need to work together if we ever hope to escape the Feudal mentality that holds us ALL back. Why be eager to roll over for the over-privi­leged?

I'm sure after others make sacrifices to achieve improvemen­ts, you will be there with your hand out.
05:00 PM on 07/06/2009
"I think Democrats, now that we have 60, it's an opportunit­y but it's a greater responsibi­lity," said Schumer. "And unity among ourselves is very important.­"

Know what, Reid? You're fired.
05:16 PM on 07/06/2009
He is? Says who?
05:25 PM on 07/06/2009
Hopefully the voters of Nevada.
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05:51 PM on 07/06/2009
The Senate Democrats can replace Reid as majority leader at any time.