Al-Qaida Trial Verdicts Delivered In Saudi Arabia

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DONNA ABU-NASR | July 8, 2009 01:40 PM EST | AP

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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — A Saudi criminal court has convicted and sentenced an al-Qaida militant to death and given more than 300 others jail terms, fines and travel bans in the country's first known terrorism trials for suspected members of the terror network, officials said Wednesday.

A Justice Ministry spokesman said the court looked into 179 cases involving the 330 defendants who were found guilty. The spokesman did not give any details on the person sentenced to death, but his punishment suggests he could be a senior member of al-Qaida.

Saudi Arabia has pursued an aggressive campaign against militants since May 2003, when they first began attacks in the kingdom, which is al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden's birthplace and home to 15 of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers.

The network's attacks have targeted expatriate residential compounds, oil installations and government buildings.

However, the first known legal proceedings, which have been held in utmost secrecy, apparently did not start until last year. Authorities had been reluctant to resort to trials for terrorism charges that could result in death sentences until they had shown the public that every effort had been made to give the men a chance to renounce their crimes and be rehabilitated.

The 330 are believed to be among the 991 suspected militants that Interior Minister Prince Nayef has said had been charged with participating in terrorist attacks over the past five years.

Sheik Abdullah al-Saadan, the Justice Ministry spokesman, told Saudi TV the court has acquitted "some" defendants. He did not say how many nor did he say when the trials began. There have been vague reports of such trials in local media recently.

"The verdicts ranged from ... jail terms that depend on the nature of the crime and death in one of the cases," al-Saadan said.

He said the rulings also included financial penalties, travel bans and house arrests in the city of the defendants' choice, added al-Saadan. A transcript of his remarks were carried by the official Saudi Press Agency.

Al-Saadan said the verdicts can be appealed. He also said preparations are under way to give access to the press to cover the trials, apparently referring to those of the remaining detainees.

A statement issued by a spokesman for the Bureau of Investigation and General Prosecution said the defendants were accused of belonging to the "deviant group," a euphemism for al-Qaida.

They were also accused of supporting and financing terrorism, going to areas of conflict to fight, and coordinating and communicating with "external parties that seek to conspire against national security by creating chaos and disrupting security," according to the unnamed spokesman.

The statement, also carried by official press agency, said the charge sheets included "incriminating evidence of these dangerous acts and proof that every defendant has carried out the charges against him."

There have been no major attacks since February 2006, when suicide bombers tried but failed to attack an oil facility at the Abqaiq oil complex, the world's largest oil processing facility, in eastern Saudi Arabia.

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — A Saudi criminal court has convicted and sentenced an al-Qaida militant to death and given more than 300 others jail terms, fines and travel bans in the country's first kn...
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — A Saudi criminal court has convicted and sentenced an al-Qaida militant to death and given more than 300 others jail terms, fines and travel bans in the country's first kn...
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- laminators I'm a Fan of laminators 2 fans permalink

330, isn't that a third of those arrested? http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/2009/07/saudi-arabia-court-convicts-330-on-terror-charges.html
al-Arabiya even reports the number to be 1500

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 07/09/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 78 fans permalink
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The 1973 oil embargo in response to Nixon's decision to "re-supply" Israel in the lead up to the Yom Kippor war fundamentally altered the economics and politics of the region, if not the world. OPEC not only demonstrated their control over the US economy but succeeded in wrestling control of their oil from western oil companies. The US realized that without the Saudis there is no economy and the Saudis accepted that completely trashing their best markey would seriously limit their ability to collect private 747s. So the deal was done. The US would dial back it's support of Israel (see Carter) while the Saudis would ratchet up their anti-western position. With the rise of fundamentalist Islamic movements, culminating with Iran's revolution, Security became a more immediate concern for the Saudi's further strengthening the ties to the US. The Saudis are constantly called upon by the US to send checks to places where we either can't afford to or can't get congressional approval for-big checks. The Saudis spent over $1B with the US funding the mujahideen . They sent checks to the Contras and other SOA graduates. They sent checks to Bosnia. They buy things when we need a specific boots in some industrial area. Did they lose control of their internal politics on 9-11, absolutely. Have we lost control of Israel-duh. But the argument that they are not an ally is simply ignorant. They actually might be our most useful and cooperative ally. Bummer, huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 AM on 07/09/2009
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 148 fans permalink

i think you are spot on.

But since our #1 interest is oil. Our #2 interest is oil. And #s 3,4,5,6,.7 are also oil. It doesn't pay to be judgmental.

Not that I think any of that is necessarily a good thing.

But lets be realistic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 07/09/2009
- Shavano I'm a Fan of Shavano 6 fans permalink

What happens when the Saudi Monarchy crumbles? It's coming sooner rather than later. Let's hope the U.S. is smart enough to realize it and doesn't put us into another Palavi disaster. One way or another, democracy is coming to Saudi Arabia. If we play are cards right we won't end up setting the inevitable back 30 years as we did in Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 07/09/2009
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 148 fans permalink

it is quite remarkable just how few people understand the tight rope the Saudi Kingdom has been walking all these years. And despite everything they have managed to maintain their balance.

They sit atop the largest oil fields in the world. They are also home to the most important religious sites in the Islamic world.

They have also been the greatest friend to the United States since WW II. And vice versa.

They have managed to keep the oil flowing despite the USA being Israel's staunchest ally.

And have maintain the Islamic shrines for all Muslims with a minimum of disruption. All the while being wealthy beyond belief.

Just maintaining that wealth has been a major accomplishment. But doing it while being more Islamic than everyone else is quite a feat.

Al Qaida is a far graver threat to the Kingdom than it is to anyone in the West. Al Qaida's goal is to overthrow the Kingdom and install their brand of the Caliphate.

The fact that so many of the 9/11 hijackers we Saudi is more an indication of the threat they posed to the Kingdom than it is an indication of Royal support.

I have no doubt they have received support from the enormous family of Saud. But read about any monarchy in any country at any time in history. They are filled with back stabbing, murderous plots to gain power within the family.

The Saudi's are no different.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 07/08/2009
- lungfish I'm a Fan of lungfish 106 fans permalink
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The 911 plot, three Saudi generals and its financiers were Saudi. All died mysteriously. One died of thirst in the desert.

At the same time Saudi Arabia finances terror against the US as long as it doesn't operate or hide on Saudi soil.... They are not friends nor allies. They are business partners and thats it...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 07/08/2009
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 148 fans permalink

Since you can't understand that countries and their politics and policies can be extremely complex: Pl,ease explain to me why we should not condemn America and Americans for the actions of Timothy McVeigh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 07/08/2009
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Durango makes a good point. The House of Suad is walking the edge of the knife. But they could lower the temperature of radicalism simply by ceasing to throw billions to intolerance and Jihad breading madrasas all over the world.
Especially in U.S and Europe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 07/08/2009
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 148 fans permalink

The game they are playing is the Royal Family gets to rule the country and obtain the wealth.

But they have turned religious matters over to Wahhabi's. The Kingdom is forced to be "Holier than Thou". Or they would not long be the protectors of Mecca and Medina. (Actually it would be more accurate to say they THINK they must be Holier. They haven't actually tried anything else).

I think it is more accurate to say they are financing mosques around the world. And madrassas in Pakistan.

But I would be willing to bet that was done with American support.

We supported the exportation of Wahhabi Islam as a counterpoint to Iran in the struggle for influence in the Islamic world.

Yet another legacy of the foolishness of Saint Reagan and the Republican Imperialist agenda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 07/09/2009
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 247 fans permalink
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An eloquent apology for the Saudis, Durango, but sorry, I'm not buying it.

> the tight rope the Saudi Kingdom has been walking all these years.

They are at best an oppressive regime which has driven MORE Arabs, including their own citizens into the hands of fundamentalists, while their 5000+ corrupt playboy princes live lives of decadence in direct contradiction of Islam.

>They have also been the greatest friend to the United States since WW II.

How so? We may be THEIR best ally, protecting THEIR oilfields from Saddam Hussein, but where's the recip?

>They have managed to keep the oil flowing despite the USA being Israel's staunchest ally.

They cut it off in the Arab oil embargo of 1972, no?

>And have maintain the Islamic shrines for all Muslims

Noblisse Oblige, no? Where's the benefit to the good old red white and blue.

>Al Qaida is a far graver threat to the Kingdom than it is to anyone in the West.

That's why they blew up OUR barracks, and hit OUR WTCs, instead of targets in Saudi Arabia, right?

>... indication of Royal support.

The money trail says otherwise.

You failed to mention the madrassas world-wide, funded by Saud, that spew venomous anti-westeren, particularly, Anti-American hatred.

Sorry, beautiful, eloquent post, but the Saudis are NOT our friends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 07/08/2009
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 148 fans permalink

You are looking at this through red white and blue colored glasses.

Certainly the benefits from the Saudi/American pact have been mutual. We protect the Kingdom, they keep the oil flowing.

And if you drove your car today it is because the Saudis continue to pump that oil. Despite the fact that American Foreign policy has consistently and uncompromisingly benefited Israel.

You mention the 1970's Oil Embargo. That is further evidence of their benefiting the USA. They were pressured into that Embargo. But have not repeated it.

I am not claiming the Kingdom is benign. Or that it's internal affairs are to my liking.

But their internal affairs are their business aren't they? While I believe the USA should lead by example, (bad examples lately) I don't believe in Imperialism or our ability to tell other people how to live.

I contiguously see people demonizing the Saudi's.

But we should be looking at the Kingdom through REALPOLITIK.

And through that lens you will see what a powerful ally the Kingdom has been since 1945.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 07/09/2009

mean they ain't just gonna stick them Guantanemo?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 07/08/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 24 fans permalink

So Saudi Arabia was one of the counries "harboring" terrorists?
Why is Saudi arabia not the focus of our war machines ire?
Why are we after the Taliban, for example?
Why are we after Pakistan?
What gives here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 07/08/2009
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 148 fans permalink

You read the article right?

They prosecuted al Qaida members.

We are in Afghanistan looking for that criminal bin Ladin and his crew. And the Pakistanis are helping across the border.

Because bin Ladin and his like are a destabilizing force in many countries across the Islamic world.

Including Saudi Arabia and Pakistan

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 07/08/2009
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Now about those terrorist breading schools spreading like locust all over the world....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 07/08/2009

With friends like this, who needs enemies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 07/08/2009
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In the last word take out "ie" and replace it with "a." Now it makes more sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 07/08/2009
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It's been a gradual (and too slow) process, but finally its dawning on Saudis that their nudge-and- wink support with extremism is a zero sum game.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 07/08/2009
- canfemlib I'm a Fan of canfemlib 13 fans permalink

Gee, I wonder why Bush didn't invade Saudi Arabia -- they aren't democratic, they appear to harbor 9/11 terrorists, they've got lots of oil, and just as many WMDs as Iraq. Strange, isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 07/08/2009
- viper234 I'm a Fan of viper234 43 fans permalink

Exactly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 07/08/2009
- whoa20 I'm a Fan of whoa20 13 fans permalink
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OK but why does the most jihad money still come out of Saudi Arabia? Why are their TV shows still filled with hate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 07/08/2009

Why are their TV shows still filled with hate?

Can you provide example, please?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 07/08/2009
- amdezurik I'm a Fan of amdezurik 38 fans permalink

why are ours?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 07/08/2009
- alienufo I'm a Fan of alienufo 3 fans permalink
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wait, I thought it was impossible to put terrorists on trial. Don't we have to detain them forever without charges?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 07/08/2009

how do you spell Gantanemo??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 07/08/2009
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 247 fans permalink
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So 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9-11 were Saudi Nationals, and Saudi Arabia is JUST NOW getting around to convicting the first Al-Quaida conspirator.

That's some ally we've got there. No wonder George W. Bush like to hold hands with their leader.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 07/08/2009

he liked to French them too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 07/08/2009
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 555 fans permalink
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Good thing they weren't women or they would've all gotten the death penalty within days of being arrested.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 07/08/2009

life beyond the veil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 07/08/2009
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