Russia: US Missile Defense Shield Not Acceptable

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STEVE GUTTERMAN | 07/10/09 02:32 PM | AP

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MOSCOW — President Dmitry Medvedev said Friday that Russia will still deploy missiles near Poland if the United States pushes ahead with a missile shield in Eastern Europe.

Medvedev reaffirmed the threat four days after he welcomed Obama to Moscow for a summit aimed at improving troubled ties.

Medvedev and Obama reached a preliminary agreement on new reductions in the Russian and American nuclear arsenals. Russian officials have suggested Moscow may not sign a treaty on the cuts unless the U.S. abandons the previous administration's plans for missile defense facilities in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Medvedev said the Kremlin believes the Bush administration's decision to build those facilities was "a mistake."

"If we cannot agree on these questions, you know the consequences," he told a news conference at the Group of Eight nations' summit in L'Aquila, Italy.

"What I said in my (state of the nation) address _ I have not withdrawn this idea," he said.

He first made the threat in a state-of the-nation address just hours after Barack Obama was elected in November.

The new remark appeared aimed to stake out a firm position ahead of further talks with the U.S. on an arms reduction deal to replace the 1991 START I treaty, which expires in December. At the same time, his use of the word "revise" _ rather than something more unequivocal _ appeared to leave the door open for further bargaining on missile defense.

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Medvedev praised Obama for ordering a review of the missile plans, saying that made him feel "moderately positive" that the U.S. will abandon the idea.

"Whose point of view will prevail in the American administration, I do not know," he said.

During the Moscow summit Monday and Tuesday, Obama reiterated the U.S. insistence that the missile defense system would pose no threat to Russia. U.S. officials say they intent would be to guard against a potential missile threat from Iran, but Russian officials say they fear its real intent is to weaken their country's nuclear deterrent.

Medvedev made more upbeat comments about his first summit with Obama. He called the agreements reached "very, very positive," particularly compared to Russian-U.S. ties about six months ago, which he said had "rolled back almost to the level of the Cold War."

Russian-American ties, severely strained during the presidencies of Vladimir Putin and George W. Bush, were further damaged by Russia's war with U.S.-supported Georgia last August.

Medvedev said he and Obama are getting along well, adding: "I like talking to Barack."

"I won't hide the fact that last year, it was harder for me to talk with the president of the United States of America, as our positions on many issues differed," Medvedev said. "More accurately, I'll put it this way: Talking with the younger George Bush is a real pleasure _ he is a sincere person, a quick-witted person _ but unfortunately this had no consequences for our relations; frankly speaking, it sometimes had negative ones.

"In this sense, I hope that Barack Obama and I listen to each other better and understand each other better, too," he said.

MOSCOW — President Dmitry Medvedev said Friday that Russia will still deploy missiles near Poland if the United States pushes ahead with a missile shield in Eastern Europe. Medvedev reaffirmed ...
MOSCOW — President Dmitry Medvedev said Friday that Russia will still deploy missiles near Poland if the United States pushes ahead with a missile shield in Eastern Europe. Medvedev reaffirmed ...
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Medvedev can F off. His reaction to put missiles in Poland over something that cannot attack them but defend others says it all. KGB PUTIN runs the show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 07/11/2009
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Typically abysmal form.
You should be embarrassed to use 'Zen' to disseminate such nonsense utterly devoid of reason or even plausibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 07/12/2009

Right now the U.S. is in no postion to step on Russian toes, or kick then in the shins, by putting missilles on the Russian border I hope the Pres. rethinks this out,cause what if they put missilles on our borders, how would you feel about that ///

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 07/10/2009

While I agree the US should not be deploying missiles on Russia's borders, you do understand the system being challenged by Russia is an ANTI-MISSILE defense system. The missile shield system is not an offensive system, it cannot target Russian territory or any territory for that matter. I think it is important that this distinction be made. Now for the question of should we deploy the missile shield system in Poland & the Czech Republic? No, not unless Poland and the Czech Republic are paying 100% of the deployment and operational costs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 07/10/2009
- Artos I'm a Fan of Artos 77 fans permalink

Your statement is erroneous. A missile that goes up must come down, which means any missile can be made to fire at a target on the ground as well. The idea that a missile can only be specifically designed for one purpose or target acquisition just doesn't come into play as reality. A missile whose intent is to deter another missile can and will destroy any missile. What the Russian are complaining about is the fact that if a missile can bring down an Iranian missile then it can also shoot down a Russian missile. To us this may not seem a big thing, but we always see ourselves as the defender not the attacker, whereas the Russian have to see it from that same vantage point when it comes to themselves. We didn't help our argument by attacking Iraq. In addition why do we need our missiles on the Russian border when we have subs that can be positioned in the Gulf of Hormuz. That is a lot closer to Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 07/11/2009
- econ1 I'm a Fan of econ1 5 fans permalink

If the European countries want a missile shield, let them put it up.

We can no longer afford to cover defense for Europe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 07/10/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 373 fans permalink
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If you look at things from the Russian perspective, they see themselves surrounded by US military installations and NATO continually pushing towards their borders. It makes them very uneasy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 07/10/2009
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 112 fans permalink
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True. And this is certainly not the first time we've heard protests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 07/10/2009
- Redfox834 I'm a Fan of Redfox834 2 fans permalink

Yeah, I'd feel more than a bit insecure if Russia was setting up defense fields around the US. I think they are justifiably concerned, we aren't known for pacifism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 07/10/2009
- Artos I'm a Fan of Artos 77 fans permalink

Yes and it did make us uneasy in 1963 when the Soviets tried to put missiles into Cuba. We didn't like it, why would the Russians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 07/11/2009

apples and oranges - we are not putting attack missiles 90 minutes from their cities - you don't understand the nature of the missile shield if you compare it with Russian offensive nukes in Cuba.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 07/11/2009
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The Cuba gambit was in response to US placing nuk. installations in Turkey on the Soviet border. Soviets withdrew missiles from Cuba, USA did NOT withdraw from Turkey.
Study history before attempting to talk about global matters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 07/12/2009
- Klimb I'm a Fan of Klimb 21 fans permalink

Think Chavez maybe helping Russia...they recently (Sept 2008?) had Russian Navy warships dock in Venezuela...and USA mainland (Texas, etc) is right there.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26832489/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 07/12/2009
- seachild I'm a Fan of seachild 27 fans permalink
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'because PUTIN said so'...

what a p*ssy this guy is

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 07/10/2009
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There's no reason for the US to build a missile shield in Eastern Europe

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 07/10/2009

yes there is - research the offensive weapons rolling off the assembly lines in Russia - check Janes for stats of how many of their most advanced fighter jets have been produced in the past several years and how that they are more advanced than our. Yes there are many good reasons to put a missile shield to check the Russian Bear. You are naive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 07/11/2009
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And Russia has all the reasons to place the same in Cuba again and Venezuela and Kamchatka.
Only a m00roon like Z.Crusader here hasn't enough brains to figure this one out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 AM on 07/12/2009
- outnow I'm a Fan of outnow 172 fans permalink

The idea is to use the missile shield as a bargaining chip in exchange for support on Iranian sanctions. If Iran is not a threat, then NATO can stand down on the missile shield idea because no missiles with warheads would be coming toward Europe from Iran. This would be because of an effective means to prevent Iran from joining the club of nuclear-armed countries was found so that NATO could stand down.

The other use for the missile shield is to eliminate a counter-response from Russia in the event of a pre-emptive NATO attack on Russia.

The downside to this stick-and-carrot approach to US-Russian relations is that it places civilians in the line of fire of mobile missile launchers with Topal missiles as retaliation. These missiles could be aimed at Europe. The Russians understand our strategy completely. I hope something is worked out as the relationship is becoming very negative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 07/10/2009
- stpmdn I'm a Fan of stpmdn 2 fans permalink

I agree with your comment. well said

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 07/10/2009

I think you are correct. I hope Obama is wise enough to deal with the KBG & not get psyched out by Putin like Bush did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 07/11/2009
- Driver125 I'm a Fan of Driver125 5 fans permalink

This was originally a Bush-administration idea, no?
Enough said.
Forget about it and stop antagonizing the Russians for no reason.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 07/10/2009
- indi1216 I'm a Fan of indi1216 7 fans permalink

why the heck do we need to place missles in Poland?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 07/10/2009
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To target Russian Federation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 07/10/2009

It would be great if you would finish your thought, but then again, that might be a bit taxing for you. Let's try this;

To target Russian Federation­..........­........OF­FENSIVE MISSILES targeted on Poland and the Czech Republic.
Now, that wasn't too difficult was it?

You and I both know the missile shield system is limited to DEFENSIVE action only, to be employed only in the event of a Russian attack on these two countries. But hey, who am I to present rational and factual replies to otherwise irrational comments?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 07/12/2009
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