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hey, at least they stopped ins. companies from paying docters bonuses not to treat patients. it wasn't in time to help me, but at least they stopped them. we need to go back 20yrs and review what these bandits have done to healthcare,the damage its done to medicare/medicaid and the drain on the social security. not to mention national security. they are truly destroying us from within. its to late for me, but i can't emphasis enough how important it is to stay healthy. they react rather then act to prevent; so you have develop a catastropic illness to get help. then in could be all in for you. then its pure profit for them. what incentive do they have to change. competition isn't in the game all the prices are set basically. if this keeps up. a few years from now people will want euthanasia. our government is bought and paid for. we refuse to exercise our power at the polls. only GOD can fix healthcare. all the belivers need to be in prayer. they laugh us to scorn, GOD is a joke to quite a few and look where our country is since so many decided to kick GOD out of everything. HIS grace truly is amazing.
Juan isn't much to listen to. He only does one of these contrary comments once in a while. The rest of the time, he is a token.
Gee, that must be why they try to talk over him all the time.
Republicans don't want Government Bureaucrats making health care decisions and denying care.
Why is that so hard for Libs to fathom?
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They prefer Insurance Company Bureaucrats to make health care decisions and deny care.
At 30% higher cost.
Weeeee!!!!!!
They just don't know any better. When they keep listening to anybody that works under Murdock, Like Fox News, they don't know that they're being lied to time and time again. They tend to love ignorance, like Sarah Gump.
http://www.ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasespin_blogger_files/fox_news_gets_okay_to_misinform_public.html
Great comment.
There are 3 kinds of republicans these days. The drunk, the rich, and the poor stupid enough to listen to them.
Wow. Even Tom.......er, Juan Williams can't take it.
So funny! They are afraid that it's not going to cover everything?!
CIGNA, my insurer, decides what procedures are authorized or not, what drugs I get, how much I pay, and where I have to get them from in order to pay a deductible. My PC's practice is going concierge because he is sick and tired of insurance companies dictating his fees. I cannot afford my PC of 18 years anymore because of that!
We pay over $5,000 yearly for family insurance to CIGNA alone and I already spent $2,400 out of pocket!
I'm ready to take a chance with the government's run healthcare.
Insurance companies make decisions for our health every day...
Not that the Ideologically pure Kristol or Ingraham would possibly believe in full disclosure or transparency, but I have to wonder if they aren't being paid by, or hold investiments in companies that provide health insurance.
Of course they have some investment in the health for profit industry. That's what republicans are all about--money and the love of it.
These same arguments were made during the 60's during the Medicaid/Medicare debates. They were made during the 90s during the healthcare debate. And, once again, we hear them again. I especially like the argument ("like" being used in the most sarcastic of terms) that the public health option will drive competition out of the market place. Have credit unions driven banks out of the market place? Of course not. Another ridiculous lie. How about the "we can afford it" line? Apparently, we can afford B-12 jet fighters, even if they are obsolete or unused. How many uninsured people could be covered for the cost of one fighter jet?
If Americans allow a bunch of millionaire senators and representative - all of whom get excellent medical care courtesy of the American taxpayer - to deny us healthcare AGAIN, we deserve what we get.
Way to go Juan. Even though five people are trying to interrupt you, by shouting over you, you managed to make your point.
Intellectual honesty is sadly absent on FOX these days.
Sensational, outlandish, poorly reasoned acusations rule the day.
It's "reality" journalism, the truth gives way to the speakers fanciful belief in their own self-rightousness.
Well Done Juan!
at the beginning of the bush admin.. fox news won a court battle that basicly gave them the right to fire any employee that would not tow the editorial line... even if the newsman knows and and prove that what they are ask to pass off as the truth is a lie, they are required to repeat it or suffer job loss without remedy...
this also means that any supposely news organization can promote a line of thought without having to be responsible.. they can create sheen panic, spread blatant lies without regard to the effects that it will have on the listening audience.....
that's why they were so fearful that obama was going to bring back the "fair doctrine"..
if it wasn't for the internet we would be totally at their mercy...... you notice that the fox targeted viewer is one that will only use then as a news source..
you may call these people stupid... but they are just victims caught up in the pre civil right area and believe that internet news, e-mail and cell phones are government ways of tracking them.
pretty soon that will be right..... murdock is already working to make that true for his news empire
Kristol speaks as if insurance companies aren't telling doctors how they can and can't treat patients now! Why are they so afraid to let the government offer a public OPTION?
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Well, I'll be! First time anyone noticed right-wing scare tactics in this debate?
Give me a break.
One of their favorite tactics is to warn darkly that ``bureaucrats will make decisions about your health care.''
As if they don't now. Except now, they do it to increase profit while denying treatment.
Kristol was a cheerleader for the Iraq war and he has blood on his hands.
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Well now, my personal favorite was the repungent who warned darkly,"There is already a shortage of doctors. If we give all these people insurance none of us will be able to get an appointment with any doctor!" As one of 'these people' I wish to state frankly that there is no medicine for what ails the G No P.
I'm pretty sure Kanuk1 is paid per post.
I'm glad to see Juan Williams finally grow a pair. I wonder how much the insurance companies are paying the other panelists. Not all money is good money and the deaths of the people who were denied health care will be on their hands.
Weird. I thought Juam Williams was composed entirely of wood. Makes you wonder just whose hand was up there to make him contradict Will the bloody kristol....??
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First Posted: 07-12-09 06:09 PM | Updated: 07-13-09 05:18 PM