Lawmakers Won't Make Obama's Health Care Deadline

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PHILIP ELLIOTT | July 12, 2009 06:55 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Legislation to overhaul the nation's health systems is unlikely to make it through the House and Senate before the August target set by President Barack Obama and other Democratic leaders, lawmakers said Sunday.

Democrats and Republicans alike said the administration's sweeping health care proposals are moving forward on Capitol Hill but cautioned against rushing into a spending plan that could costs trillions of dollars over the next decade. Obama's health and human services secretary said she remains optimistic Congress would send the White House legislation before the year ends.

"I think everything is on the table and discussions are under way," HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said.

But the White House's strategy to leave the legislative back-and-forth to Congress has produced varying and sometimes contradictory versions of health care legislation _ along with delays. As the Senate turns its attention to Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor's confirmation hearings, the focus will turn away from Obama's top domestic priority.

The administration's Democratic partners in Congress hinted they would not deliver legislation before leaving town for an August recess. Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., said Obama should be pleased with lawmakers' progress; Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., said "there really is plenty of time."

And Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., insisted that lawmakers would have the overhaul in place before leaving town in August. He does not, however, expect Obama to sign it before lawmakers return to their home states.

The delay would be a blow to the White House and to Democrats' electoral prospects.

The House and Senate are working toward legislation that would deliver on Obama's popular goals from his presidential campaign, but they are hardly in unison. House Democrats have proposed raising taxes on wealthy Americans to pay for the plan. Democratic leaders, meanwhile, have tried to calm moderate and conservative lawmakers about a proposal that could make their re-election bids more difficult.

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Republicans, seizing on an issue that affects all Americans and has shown a glimmer for hope for an out-of-power political party, have lambasted the proposals as rash and irresponsible. They also see the issue as a way to win House and Senate seats in the 2010 midterm elections.

"I think the bigger issue here is why are we going to increase spending and health care by $1 trillion, $2 trillion, $3 trillion?" said Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H. "Most of which we can't afford, add that to the debt or add it the tax burden of the American people. Why don't we approach this horse from the other end?"

Gregg and other GOP leaders have painted the Democrats' plan as a government takeover of health care delivery systems that leads to rationing of treatment and backlogs at doctors' offices. More broadly, Republicans have tied the plan to out-of-control spending and a bloated federal government.

"There is no chance that it's going to be done by August," said Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz. "President Obama was right about one thing: He said if it's not done quickly, it won't be done at all. Why did he say that? Because the longer it hangs out there, the more the American people are skeptical, anxious and even in opposition to it."

Even lawmakers absent from the Sunday morning news shows found a way to weigh in on the debate. Through his microblogging feed, Sen. Chuck Grassley, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, offered up a Twitter message to the Democrat who runs tax policy in the House, Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

"Chr Rangel wealthy 1pc make 27pc of total income pay 40pc of income tax U hv 5pc health care surTax How hi taxes go to satisfy u?Let's talk," Grassley wrote in the abbreviated blast.

Sebelius tried to calm jittery voters who fear Democrats' plan to tax some employer-provided health care benefits as income. She said the details are far from over.

"Well, the House has a version," she said, discounting any version as final. "There are a couple of different proposals being worked on in the Senate."

Sebelius, Stabenow, Conrad and Gregg appeared on CNN's "State of the Union." Schumer appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press." Kyl appeared on ABC's "This Week."

WASHINGTON — Legislation to overhaul the nation's health systems is unlikely to make it through the House and Senate before the August target set by President Barack Obama and other Democratic l...
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Health Care: The Public Plan Option

These Democratic Senators have NOT agreed to support it:
Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)

Senator Tom Carper (D-DE)

Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA)

Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)

Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL)

Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE)

Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA)

Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND)

Senator Max Baucus (D-MT)

Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)

Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)

Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR)

Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT)

These names are reported by The Hill here and here

Update: Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC) says she supports a public option.
Update: Senator Jeff Binghaman (D-NM) says he supports a public option.

You can also contact the White House and voice your opinion
Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 07/13/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 07/13/2009
- Chapmanp2 I'm a Fan of Chapmanp2 15 fans permalink

Pretending like there is some magical deadline is a crock. The more we look at this the more real people realize the insanity of the current for profit system. The insurance industry has become a legalized extortion scam & it's totally unacceptable. Republicans know if real health care reform passes they will be finished. It's tied directly to the economy & recent polls show anywhere from 60 to 76% support for either a strong public option or single payer. All the spinning & money in the world won't change the facts...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 07/13/2009
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They are just giving bloggers more time to find out who taking money from whom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 07/13/2009
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The overall health and insurance sectors haven’t just been kind to Baucus’ staffers, but they’ve also aided his campaigns handsomely over the years, especially in his barely contested 2008 reelection campaign. In 2008, Baucus received $1,148,775 from the health sector and $285,850 from the insurance sector. For his career he has received $2,797,381 from the health sector and $1,170,313 from the insurance sector.

http://blog.sunlightfoundation.com/2009/06/22/the-max-baucus-health-care-lobbyist-complex/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 07/13/2009
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"Will Ben Nelson sell out Nebraska for $2 million?" reads the campaign literature, which will be distributed to Nebraska residents and 3000 local Democratic donors. The government reform group is spending $10,000 in paid online ads and direct mail. One flier features Allen R. Schreiber, a Nebraska native who has become disillusioned with private health care after his small business collapsed in the face of astronomical costs. The second piece highlights the campaign contributions.

Change Congress, founded by Stanford Prof. Lawrence Lessig and campaign guru Joe Trippi, advocates for campaign finance reform. At the top of its legislative agenda is passing a bill that would bring public financing to congressional elections. --National Journal Online

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 07/13/2009
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If you don't think I'm bringing this up at election time....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 07/13/2009
- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 53 fans permalink

Also noteworthy should be that Baucus, along with Landrieu, Carper, Rockefeller, and others are a part of the Democratic Leadership Conference. They get much of their financing though the help of a group known as the "Family" a quasi-Christian theocratic group in DC.
They are determined as a group to move the Democratic Party, and country, to the right, and frankly don't care is the DNC likes it or not.
Before anything resembling genuine reform can take place, these wolves in sheep's clothing need to be exposed and isolated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 07/13/2009
- lj9283 I'm a Fan of lj9283 67 fans permalink
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Some thoughts on maintaining the current status of health Care:

Last year the American Health Care system suffered $25.4 billion in bad debt (noncollectable debt), which was a 9.5% increase in bad debt over 2007 ($23.2 billion).

http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20090608/REG/906059992

If you were to project out the bad debt with year over year increases in bad debt at level 9.5% between the years 2009 and 2018 the total bad debt that the Health Care System would have to absorb is over $433 billion.

Last year the average cost for employer sponsor health insurance was $4704 for an individual (employers paying $3983 and employee paying $721), and $12680 for a family of four (employers paying $9325 and employee paying $3354). That is double what the cost was in 2000.

http://ehbs.kff.org

If you were to project out the raise in Health Insurance costs to continue to double over the next ten years then we would expect that employer health insurance would wind up costing $9408 for an individual (employers paying $7966 and employee paying $1442), and $25360 for a family of four (employers paying $18650 and employee paying $6708).

And all the while the Health Insurance Industry which is the major provider of funds for Health Care providers has no stake in the Health Care System. Their concern is only with their profit, not a sustainable health care delivery system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 07/13/2009
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"The average family with health insurance in 2008 paid a 'hidden health tax' of $1,017 to cover the health-care costs of the uninsured, according to a report released Thursday by advocacy group Families USA," the Wall Street Journal reports. "The report by the group, which promotes universal health insurance, found that a total of $42.7 billion in care for those without insurance was passed on to health insurers. The insurers, in turn, passed on the costs through higher premiums, the report said."--Na­tional Journal Online

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 07/13/2009

Whats the old saying??

If you think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free!

I dont know the health care solution, neither does Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 07/13/2009

Whew!!! And I was worried that this new debacle by Congress and the Prez will really happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 07/13/2009
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The debacle starts when Medicare part D goes broke in 2011.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 07/13/2009
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"a health reform panel featuring Congressman Mike Ross (D-Ark.), chair of the Blue Dog Health Care Task Force, included Gary Lauer, the chairman and CEO of eHealth, and Dr. Jonathan Gruber, the MIT economist who helped design the Massachusetts health reform plan.

The event was an illustration of the New DLC at its DLC.org-DLC.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 07/13/2009
- blueken I'm a Fan of blueken 55 fans permalink
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Water it done, just a little more and you know what? Bang, corporations will bail out of the health care system and dump their employees into the public option. Hold tight, cause all this compromise is going to create a train wreck. What we need is single payer universal health care, now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 07/13/2009
- Chapmanp2 I'm a Fan of Chapmanp2 15 fans permalink

Agreed 100%.
SINGLE PAYER NOW!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 07/13/2009

who will pay for it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 07/13/2009
- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 53 fans permalink

Who do you think is paying for the current system?
You're paying every time an uninsured patient that has a baby in an emergency room.
Besides the fact that a healthcare system that AVOIDS sick people is in itself Kafkaesque,
overall it is simply MORE EXPENSIVE.
Anyone who says different is just full of crap.
When 30 cents of every healthcare dollar is sucked up by industry profits, it simply has to be less efficient and more expensive.
I mean what is it about "for profit" that you don't get?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 07/13/2009

I just read a great article on a site that caters to senior citizens and family caregivers about health care reform -
http://www.seniorsapprove.com/if-you-can-find-money-to-kill-people-you-can-find-money-to-help-people.html

Health care reform must happen and I agree with other posters here, any politician that tries to stop it or water it down must be called out. And yes, whatever it ends up being called, a public option must be part of the program. Trusting insurance companies is like trusting the banking industry to do the right thing. Greed and power in the hands of a few is not democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 07/13/2009
- bps I'm a Fan of bps 14 fans permalink
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I couldn't agree more. Ditto, Ditto and Ditto again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 07/13/2009
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We've all seen this one before. Run out the clock, go beyond the attention span of the media and a public too burned from working 2 or 3 jobs just ot survive. This will be resolved not with a bang, but a whimper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 07/13/2009

If they don't get something done, I have donated my last dollar to political campaigns. Colorado Senators I hope you pay attention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 07/13/2009
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Corporate contributors to the DLC and New Democratic Network include Bank One, Citigroup, Dow Chemical, DuPont, General Electric, Health Insurance Corporation of America, Merrill Lynch, Microsoft, Philip Morris, RJR Nabisco, Chevron, Prudential Foundation, Amoco Foundation, AT&T, Morgan Stanley, Occidental Petroleum, Raytheon, and many other Fortune 500 companies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 07/13/2009
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More on why the Democrats will harpoon health care.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juliaferrari/gGBRFK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 07/13/2009
- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 53 fans permalink

Well here's the thing.
The DLC is not THE DEMOCRATS.
They want to be, obviously, but they are still a minority within the party;
a very well supported and very powerful minority, but none the less a minority.
The Democratic leadership has been very reluctant to take them or their
fanatical backers on, and with good reason.
But the time has come to stop letting them hide behind the Democratic banner and expose them for who and what they are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 07/13/2009
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