SEC Chair Floats Ratings Agency Crackdown

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First Posted: 07-14-09 12:14 PM   |   Updated: 08-14-09 05:12 AM

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The Securities and Exchange Commission chair Mary Schapiro floated the possibility of cracking down on a particularly egregious Wall Street habit at a congressional hearing Tuesday.

When banks prepare to sell a bundle of securities -- mortgage loans, credit default swaps or other exotic financial products, for example -- they generally get a preliminary grade from a rating agency like Moody's or S&P. That's where the conflict of interest gets hot. If the bank doesn't like the rating, it can simply take its substantial business elsewhere. "Rating shopping" leaves the agencies with a dangerous incentive to be liberal with their coveted AAA ratings. And it leaves investors unsure if that AAA rating is authentic or the result of a prolonged shopping spree.

There is currently no requirement that banks disclose to investors the preliminary ratings results.

Testifying before the Subcommittee on Capital Markets, Insurance and Government-Sponsored Enterprises, Schapiro told the panel that she had directed her staff "to explore possible new regulations in this area, including limiting the potential for rating shopping."

Schapiro said that a "possible approach would be to require disclosure by issuers of all pre-ratings obtained from [ratings agencies] prior to selecting a firm to conduct a rating, as well as requiring [ratings agencies] to provide additional disclosures."

The commission, she said, has also recommended mandating disclosure of ratings history information for 100 percent of all credit ratings paid for by the issuer of a financial instrument. A bad rating, then, couldn't be easily buried.

Schapiro's proposal is a step in the right direction, says economist Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. "It seems the cleanest path would be to remove control of the hiring decision from the company getting its issue rated," Baker says. "If you don't remove the fundamental conflict of interest, then there will be a strong incentive to skirt the rules."

Adding to the fog surrounding credit ratings is the practice of banks not to disclose what information a bank gave to a ratings agency in order to obtain a certain rating. The market is simply asked to trust the ratings agency - the agency, that is, that was paid by handsomely by the bank to come up with a rating, possibly after others had rated the product poorly.

Schapiro, in her testimony before the committee, pushed for an end to that practice. Under her proposal, whatever information a bank gives to a ratings agency must also be given to other ratings agencies to double-check it.

The Securities and Exchange Commission chair Mary Schapiro floated the possibility of cracking down on a particularly egregious Wall Street habit at a congressional hearing Tuesday. When banks prepa...
The Securities and Exchange Commission chair Mary Schapiro floated the possibility of cracking down on a particularly egregious Wall Street habit at a congressional hearing Tuesday. When banks prepa...
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- Clem2 I'm a Fan of Clem2 9 fans permalink

Uh, the SEC folks should be fired, long since.

Then the ratings manipulators should be in jail, long since.

To say nothing of some of the fraudulent bankers (you think Madoff was the only one)?

I think people would have more faith in the system if they saw there were consequences to bringing the whole thing down.

And we're supposed to think things are fine when Goldman Saks or Chase posts record earnings? Sounds like they're back to their old tricks to me. Who believes their accounting is accurate? Anyone trust it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 07/16/2009
- iridium53 I'm a Fan of iridium53 56 fans permalink

Mary Schapiro floated the possibility that the SEC might, maybe, perhaps, to a limited extent, consider the concept of taking some action?

Cool.

That would be a new thing - the SEC taking action - right?

Since the SEC is totally worthless, except for their personnel using insider information for their own trading, why not cut the federal budget by eliminating these individuals?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 07/16/2009
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I love how these people are considering whether or not to do their job. How many of you who are reading this get to "consider" whether or not to meet your responsibilities at work and still keep your job? What gall these people have.

These agencies are accomplices, at the very least, to the corruption on Wall St. Realistically, they are partners in crime. How many times am I going to hear a phrase similar to "We're thinking about prosecuting these criminals"? Do any of these people even know the definition of the word "ethics"?

The reason America is in such dire straights is that ethics don't apply anymore. As long as you don't get caught or someone looks the other way - no problem, business as usual.

I don't even have room here to list all the examples I could mention. I think that it would be redundant to do so anyway. We read about them everyday and I hear the same lame excuses every time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 07/16/2009

The SEC. What a corrupt bunch of thieves. Madoff was not possible unless the SEC turned a blind eye, or WERE IN MAKING MONEY PRIVATELY THE OLD FASHIONED WAY FOR WALL STREET. ILLEGALLY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 07/15/2009

FINALLY!

This "shopping around" by big financials is helped precipitate this economic disaster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 07/15/2009
- Not Blind I'm a Fan of Not Blind 22 fans permalink
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Part of the reason the financial-­investment bankers were able to sell the derrivatives and mortgage-backed securities is they bribed Moody's, S&P, and other allegedly "independent" ratings agencies. The bankers gave gifts, perks, and incentives to those charged with rating their funds, both who knew the risks and toxic parts thereof, yet gave the star "AAA" ratings to them.
This constitutes fraud and forgery. I can't imagine anyone believing the ratings or basing any investment decision upon them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 07/14/2009
- DCX2 I'm a Fan of DCX2 5 fans permalink

At least they're talking. The Bush administration plugged their ears and said LALALALA ICAN'THEARYOU LALALALA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 07/14/2009
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Anyone can show a Mammoth Profit if you FAKE IT Using Legalized Illegal Accounting!

G0LDMAN Shows a $3.44 Billion Profit but is that larger than $47.7 Trillion?

NO! Well Then they are Bankrupt!

Without "MARK-TO-MARKET" they exaggerate the Value of the Derivatives "On the Balance-Sheet" while G0LDMAN has increased their Toxic Debts from around $30 Trillion to almost $48 Trillion all conveniently hidden OFF-BALANCE-SHEET!

So the accounting is totally FAKE and I do not understand why analysts ignore the MAMMOTH IN THE ROOM - unless they are paid to!

Oh Well Congress Made this and continues to allow this 1llegal Accounting to be Legal!

So they are to also to blame! But Congress is well PAID for its VOTES!

We need to:

1. Outlaw ENR0N Loophole and return to FULLY HONEST Accounting

2. Return Glass-Steigel and separate the Big Banks functions into legal entities

3. Outlaw Credit Default Swaps

4. Take these Criminals to C0URT

5. Automate Banking 99% and Trading 100% with built in accountability - use computers to help not hurt

6. Heavily Regulate Banks, Hedge Funds, and particularly Derivatives

A Federal Agency in our Government, the 0ffice of the Comptroller of the Currency, 0CC, issues a quarterly Report that has the following info:

1 JPM0RGAN C $81 TRILLION in Toxic Derivatives
2 B 0F AM $78TRILLION
3 G0LDMAN SA $48TRILLION
4 M0RGAN STA $39TRILLION
5 C1T1GROUP $32TRILLION
6. We11s $5TRILLION

http://www.occ.gov/ftp/release/2009-72a.pdf
Page 23!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 07/14/2009
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Wilbur Ross, one of the super-rich Timmy picked for his PPIP program, in a RARE MOMENT of FULL HONESTY on CNBC last Monday, said,

"This is the largest TRANSFER of DEBT from the PRIVATE Banks to the Government in History and it will take MANY YEARS."

So are they going to gradually weigh down Americans with 50 years of GDP Growth ($700 Trillion) that will take 200 years to work OFF?

Close the Zombie BANKS, FD1C and C0NGRESS!

Wilbur Ross is also implying it is the Greatest transfer of wealth from the American People/Government to Wall Street over MANY YEARS as a corollary!

Thanks Wilbur for the RARE MOMENT of FULL HONESTY from Wall Street!

CNBC has the video interview with Maria!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 07/14/2009
- munki I'm a Fan of munki 34 fans permalink
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Now you had time to get acquainted with the matter and the situation.­..

Next step... YES!!! It is about time...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 07/14/2009

Gee, do i getta shop around too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 07/14/2009
- swisskabab I'm a Fan of swisskabab 6 fans permalink

I regret supporting Obama, and have never voted Republican.

When it comes to action against Investment banks, Wall St. traders, Hedge Funds, Commercial Banks, Ratings agencies ... all that happens is ... CONSIDERING ... CONTEMPLATING ... EYEING ... THINKING OF ...

NOTHING HAPPENS. It is all talk

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 07/14/2009
- munki I'm a Fan of munki 34 fans permalink
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I wonder if you can judge your spouse in 6 month or not?

Interestin­g...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 07/14/2009
- Sundialsvc4 I'm a Fan of Sundialsvc4 140 fans permalink

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On both the consumer level and the securities level, credit ratings must be determined by a LEGALLY defined process, and the issuing of a deceptive or doubtful credit-rating must be recognized as "a crime."

A credit rating, by its definition, is designed to be an inducement to the potential lender or investor. Any criminal who obtains a favorable credit-rating for his criminal product will be greatly aided in his crime, to the point that the credit-rating agency has become an accessory or an accomplice to the same.

On the consumer side, banks have a great vested interest in driving a consumer's credit-rating to new lows, and to do so without informing the consumer nor providing any form of recourse. This, too, must be checked ... by law and by statute. There are abundant scenarios by which abuse in these areas can, and do, result in "actual damages."

Ultimately, legislation is needed. The SEC can and should investigate, and make rulings, but the scope of this problem exceeds (I think...) its scope of authority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 07/14/2009
- Sundialsvc4 I'm a Fan of Sundialsvc4 140 fans permalink

On both the consumer level and the securities level, credit ratings must be determined by a LEGALLY defined process, and the issuing of a deceptive or doubtful credit-rating must be recognized as "a crime."

A credit rating, by its definition, is designed to be an inducement to the potential lender or investor. Any criminal who obtains a favorable credit-rating for his criminal product will be greatly aided in his crime, to the point that the credit-rating agency has become an accessory or an accomplice to the same.

On the consumer side, banks have a great vested interest in driving a consumer's credit-rating to new lows, and to do so without informing the consumer nor providing any form of recourse. This, too, must be checked ... by law and by statute. There are abundant scenarios by which abuse in these areas can, and do, result in "actual damages."

Ultimately, legislation is needed. The SEC can and should investigate, and make rulings, but the scope of this problem exceeds (I think...) its scope of authority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 07/14/2009
- Avanti2 I'm a Fan of Avanti2 6 fans permalink

Every one of these ideas need to be implemented ASAP. Get going SEC. Make these changes before the end of the year not two or three years from now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 07/14/2009
- jeffp26 I'm a Fan of jeffp26 26 fans permalink
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Mary Schapiro's resume suggests she is all smoke and mirrors.

She ran the FINRA for the last 12 years. The same FINRA Markopolis said was too "corrupt" for him to even try reporting Madoff to.

She's a snake, and I will debate her in public, anywhere, any time about her lack of ethics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 07/14/2009
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