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GOP Scoffed At CBO Score For Iraq That Was Twice The Cost Of Health Care

First Posted: 08/17/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:40 PM ET

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Testimony from Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorf that preliminary versions of health care legislation lack effective cost-containing mechanisms has roiled the nation's capital.

Democrats have had trouble swallowing the estimates. Those favorably disposed to reform have argued that the bills will eventually include provisions to reduce health care's cost. The moderates have urged that the party go back to the drawing board and craft better legislation. Republicans, through it all, have used Elmendorf's testimony to drive the message that Democratic health care will do nothing but balloon the deficit.

But before the political commotion slides out of control, it's worthwhile to pause a second. Should the CBO's testimony be treated as gospel?

While the Congressional Budget Office is the official "bean counter" for budgetary issues, even Elmendorf himself seemed to walk back his statement that reform, in its current incarnation, would not bend the health care cost curve, noting that there are a multitude of provisions yet to be added. More importantly, when considering the politics of federal spending, it is worth recalling just where the Washington, D.C. landscape -- including the CBO -- was during the major government initiatives of the last administration.

Throughout the course of the Bush years, the Republican Party, which now puts its stock in the CBO's numbers, continuously marginalized the organization for its accounting.

When the CBO predicted in 2004 that Bush's new tax and spending proposals would produce deficits of $2.75 trillion over ten years, a spokesman for the White House Office of Management and Budget declared that ''even CBO would admit we don't honestly know what these numbers will look like 10 years from now.''

That same year, the Bush administration pushed forward with its plans for Medicare Part D despite the fact that its internal cost estimates were $139 billion more than those offered by the CBO. Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee had worked diligently to defeat the attempts of their Democratic colleagues to make those estimates public.

In a similar vein, conservatives were beside themselves when the CBO refused to run the 2004 Bush tax cuts through various economic models to see if the government could, in the end, make money by stimulating spending. Rather, the CBO used a "static" method and found $1.2 trillion worth of deficits through the next decade. Republicans, naturally, largely ignored the findings.

Perhaps the biggest caution flag for treating CBO numbers as gospel -- and one of the more illuminating benchmarks from which to compare the current debate over health care costs -- is the Iraq War.

In October 2003, the CBO was asked to do a study about the costs of the Iraq War. According to varying scenarios of troop deployment the total price tag ranged from $85 billion to $200 billion over a ten-year period. A year later, the projected costs had risen further. Having already spent $123 billion, the CBO was now estimating that the prosecution of both Iraq and Afghanistan would total roughly $1.1 trillion over the subsequent ten years.

"In the scheme of things, the war is not super-expensive, but it also sure ain't cheap," said Michael O'Hanlon, a Brookings Institution scholar and prominent war supporter.

By 2007, as the Iraq War had spiraled out of control, and with the surge of troops just beginning to take place, the price tag had jumped even more dramatically. The CBO was now projecting that the government would have to spend as much as $1.7 trillion over the next ten years on Iraq and Afghanistan. With interest, the number rose to $2.4 trillion -- $1.9 trillion of which was for Afghanistan alone.

Certainly, the costs of a war -- especially one as poorly managed as Iraq -- are far more difficult to predict than that for health care legislation. But, at the same time it is worth noting that the 2007 CBO projection for the ten-year cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are roughly double the prospective 10-year cost projections for health care reform. And yet, owing to the inverse political power in D.C. at the time, Republicans two years ago were scoffing at the congressional budget office's projections while Democrats were deeply concerned.

"The number is so big, it boggles the mind," said then-Rep. Rahm Emanuel, (D-Ill.), who now serves at Barack Obama's chief of staff.

"Congress should stop playing politics with our troops by trying to artificially inflate war funding levels," argued Sean Kevelighan, a spokesman for the Bush White House budget office.

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Testimony from Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorf that preliminary versions of health care legislation lack effective cost-containing mechanisms has roiled the nation's capital. ...
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12:57 AM on 07/19/2009
Why is it OK to spend trillions and trillions on Iraq and Afghan war and not spend a few billions on the badly needed healthcare. Obama has claimed that the reforms will be deficit neutral ( I guess CBO doesn't believe Obama?). Well, if it is not deficit neutral (with factual data) in next three years) then we can vote him out of office. Yes, for God's sake let's stop this baloney about stopping terrorist attacks and terrorist threats (bombing in Indonesia, India, pakistan will go on no matter how many trillions we spend). Let's get out completely out of Iraq and Afghanisthan tomorrow and let them fight amonst themselves (Russia tried and din't succeed). Let's see if they have guts to come here and fight and if they do, go and bomb the hell out of them.
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fireW
Don't believe everything you think.
10:54 AM on 07/19/2009
That's what they're about. Spending big money on death & destruction are fine; spending big money keeping people healthy & alive is not. As usual, this insanity from the "party of family values". LOL.
11:16 PM on 07/18/2009
Anytime you start talking about cutting into profit of wall street and the big insurance companys and even busines in general you will have these discussions; they can always count on that certain mass of people to buy what ever it is they are selling and they know it.
02:29 PM on 07/18/2009
Iraqis have a publicly funded health care system.
02:29 PM on 07/18/2009
We will not be fighting the Iraq War forever.

Health care entitlements stay with us indefinitely.

The premise of this article is severely flawed.
09:33 PM on 07/18/2009
Well now - can't they give us some of their oil wells since we spent a trillion on them - nope I guess america loves to spend money on nonsense but when it comes to it's people - nope, nope - can't do it - cost too much -
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
02:05 PM on 07/18/2009
The Iraqis are worth it...whatever it costs.
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BlueDog1
"Taking the High Road"
01:53 PM on 07/18/2009
These idiots are being marginlized on a daily basis and the ironic thing is they are doing themselves......................
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
01:44 PM on 07/18/2009
We the people of the Corporatist Party vow to MAKE you pay for your Health Care Insurance whether you get quality service or more like Cuba!

We Vow to keep the focus on Maximizing our Inusance Company Profits, our Big Pharma Profits, our For-Profit Hospital Profits, our Doctor's MRI Profits, and our Health Providers Profits so help us on the Mighty Dollar!

We shall use you like the Herd that you are to us!

We Shall give you a hard time on your every Large Claim and will drop you like a H0T Tamale if you hurt our Profits!
10:16 PM on 07/18/2009
here here!!
12:01 PM on 07/18/2009
Hehe people seem to forget that the repugs are more than happy to spend money to kill "others," but they certainly will not spend that money to help U.S. citizens or the U.S.' future.
03:15 PM on 07/18/2009
They are more than happy to spend money for their causes which benefit corporations and stifle the individual.
BlackbirdHighway
Brawndo's got electrolites!
10:56 AM on 07/18/2009
Maybe if the health care bill included some no-bid contracts for the buddies of members of congress then it would go through a lot easier.
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10:48 AM on 07/18/2009
Two wrongs don't make a right. The Republicans willingness to massively waste US human resources and treasure on wars of greed, causing stifling deficits does not mean that Obama should be wasting even greater resources on war by escalating in Afghanistan while maintaining the same troop levels in Iraq and also be spending our way out of economic malaise the Republicans left the country in. Obama is spending massively on guns and butter, but needs to spend more on butter in order to turn the economy around and cut unemployment to acceptable levels. So the Republicans are right to challenge his policies.



Obama must immediately and safely withdraw all troops and contractors from Afghanistan and Iraq, massively cut defense spending only to levels that will guarantee US security and transfer those resources to fixing the US economy. Using those resources on the economy will mean the economy will turn around and the deficits will become surpluses. But if Obama does not immediately and safely end his military adventures and chooses to continue to spend on guns and butter, he will lose the wars andf bankrupt the country.
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Gregor53
Remembering your past gives power to the present.
09:42 AM on 07/18/2009
It appears that many would rather blow up things and kill thousand that to provide health care for everyone. It was once said that the greatness of a government/country/civilization was how well it treated its own people and it's seniors. Using this criteria, America has a lot to think about. Begin great also requires greater responsbility. Hopefully, this is just the loud rambling of a minority and the majority will really live up to the definition of Great.
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lazercat2008
10:36 AM on 07/18/2009
Come on get real, how does helping people make money for me?
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fedupinfla
In a kennel full of dogs, I bark the loudest
02:49 AM on 07/19/2009
Now THERE'S a "christian" response if I ever heard one!!
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TJCole
09:15 AM on 07/18/2009
The Republicans are hypocrites on every level universally...their hypocrisy is ubiquitous....omnipresent...like hydrogen in the universe...like the background radiation of the big bang...for God's sake..!
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lazercat2008
10:36 AM on 07/18/2009
Every word out of their big mouths makes my brain hurt.
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TJCole
12:47 PM on 07/18/2009
poor kitty..!
09:12 AM on 07/18/2009
When our country was ready to go down the tubes last fall, congress could not pass up the desire to tag the 700 billion dollar bill with 180 billion dollars of pure pork. So, to think that this bill would be immune is just plain dopey. If we get the pork out of this bill (yes I know those in favor of the pork will say it is essential, what else is new?) and get to a clean bill that will have “no excuses” the suddenly radical centrists will have little to object to.

If the democrats can truly write a bill that does not designate winners (lobbyists they like) and losers (lobbyists they do not like) and write a bill for a CHANGE that does exactly what the people need and no more and no less, we would be done already.

Like everything in Washington, the devil (lobby winners and losers always make the people the losers) are in the details.
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elfish
07:43 AM on 07/18/2009
Money for war is much worse than spending money for health care. Money spent on war goes for things likes bombs that are used up and gone, with no residual beneift. Money for healthcare goes to pay salaries that get passed throught the ecconomy over and over. Improving a person's health, improves their productivity, it reduces the cost of goods and services because employers don't have to pass through the expense in the form of increased prices. In short there are multiple benefits from health care expenditures.
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Cheryl2
real Americans celebrate diversity
10:22 AM on 07/18/2009
I agree, the benefits to Americans far outweigh the cost of the healthcare legislation if insurance were made affordable for all.
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noaxe397
06:00 AM on 07/18/2009
The reason the GOP had no problem with CBO scoring on the Iraq war is because that money was going to pay for infrastructure, schools, roads, health care, jobs for Iraqis, not for Americans. Spending money to defend America's security is one thing, but the GOPs obsession with social welfare for Iraqis while Americans suffer and are labeled "non-producers" or deadbeats, or whiners is criminal to the point of possibly being prosecutable under the Patriot Act.