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First Posted: 07-20-09 05:48 PM   |   Updated: 07-21-09 02:22 AM

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In a reflection of a legislative strategy that has left no stone unturned, President Barack Obama on Monday called on like-minded bloggers to help his administration keep the heat on lawmakers to pass health care reform.

"It is important just to keep the pressure on members of Congress because what happens is there is a default position of inertia here in Washington," the president said during an invitation-only conference call. "And pushing against that, making sure that people feel that the desperation that ordinary families are feeling all across the country, every single day, when they are worrying about whether they can pay their premiums or not... People have to feel that in a visceral way. And you guys can help deliver that better than just about anybody."

In a roughly 25-minute session with a handful of prominent progressive bloggers, the president also asked for help combating disinformation about his health care plan.

"I know the blogs are best at debunking myths that can slip through a lot of the traditional media outlets," he said. "And that is why you are going to play such an important role in our success in the weeks to come."

The call demonstrates just how heated the health care debate has become in recent weeks and how much ammunition the administration is willing to bring to the table. At various points in the call, the president offered a strikingly detailed synopsis of his political strategy and health care policy as a whole.

While he refused to insist that lawmakers stay in Washington during the August recess, he declared definitively that, "the time for talk is through."

"Now is the time for us to go ahead and act," Obama declared. "We are working as hard as we can and I have told Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi that it is critical that we have seen serious forward motion before people leave [in August]."

Moreover, for the first time in recent memory, Obama floated the possibility that if it appears that health care reform lacks the 60 votes needed for passage, he might be open to reconciliation, which would allow for an up-or-down vote on budgetary and tax aspects of the bill.

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"Keep in mind that the way we had structured the reconciliation issue several months ago, we moved forward on the basis of the assumption that we could get a bill through the regular order and the regular process by October," Obama said. "If I think that is not possible, then we are going to look at all of our options, including reconciliation. Not because that is my preferred option but because what I think would be unacceptable for the American people is inaction."

Perhaps sensing the ramifications that such a parliamentary maneuver could cause, the president added: "In fairness, I do think that what you are seeing right now is really serious hard work on the part of members of the Senate and those on the Finance Committee. And although I may not agree with every single decision that is made in any of the committees, I think that folks really are working overtime and I appreciate the work that they have done. And I feel confident that we could pass a bill in the absence of reconciliation."


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The recruiting of blogger support comes at a particularly sensitive time for the president. While hoping to see legislation produced from Congress that carries bipartisan support, which can make its way through both chambers, the White House is cognizant that a watered-down bill could insult the progressive base. Especially at a time when the party has 60 caucusing members in the Senate. At various times during the call, not surprisingly, the president implored the participants not to let the perfect piece of health care legislation be the enemy of something fundamentally good.

"I know that there has been a lot of focus from a lot of people on keeping the bill strong and that continues to be a key focus for me as well," he said. "But there is also a primary point that can't be lost: The status quo is unacceptable... People who would defend doing nothing are defending the indefensible."

Along these lines, the president insisted on multiple occasions that he remained committed to a public option for insurance coverage and even threw a bit of cold water on one of the alternative proposals.

"I'm still looking at the details of a co-op approach. I will tell you that there are some instances of co-ops being set up and just having a very difficult time getting off the ground because they don't have the scale and the resources to compete effectively," Obama said of the approach advocated by Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) "What I have asked my health care team to do is to look at what evidence we have that this could provide the kind of competition that drives or helps to promote insurance reform... If I can see some evidence that that would work then I would be happy to consider it.

Peppering the president with questions were some of the progressive community's most prominent netroots voices from Jonathan Singer of MyDD to John Amato of Crooks and Liars. As in interviews and public statements past, the president stressed that the White House had already made major steps toward achieving reform, including bringing key stakeholders in the private sector to the table. Repeating his statement on Monday criticizing the posture of some of his Republican opponents, Obama accused those who sought to delay the bill as trying to kill the prospects of reform and, by extension, his presidency.

"I think it was telling, some of you may have seen, a Republican senator this weekend saying, we are just going to delay and delay because if we can stop Obama on this one, this is going to be his Waterloo. We will break him," he said of the remarks made by Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C). "That was a quote. And I think it indicates the degree to which a lot of folks may sincerely think that the more time we take the better off we are going to be but I also think there are some who deliberately want to delay this process because they know the longer the special interests have to run negative ads or lobby members of congress, the more difficult it becomes to get this done."

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In a reflection of a legislative strategy that has left no stone unturned, President Barack Obama on Monday called on like-minded bloggers to help his administration keep the heat on lawmakers to pass...
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- RadCenter I'm a Fan of RadCenter 26 fans permalink

Please stop feeding the trolls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 08/18/2009
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On page 425 of The Obama Plan, "The End of Life Counseling Program" is discussed. After each American turns 65 years of age they have to go to a mandated counseling program that is designed to end life sooner. This session is to occur every 5 years unless the person has developed a chronic
illness then it must be done every year. The topics in this session will include, "how to decline hydration, nutrition and how to initiate hospice care..."

On page 16 of the plan it is ILLEGAL for a citizen to have private insurance if they lose their job, change their job, become a senior citizen or graduate from college and land their first job. Yes, illegal. When President Obama was asked about this portion of his plan yesterday his response was, " I am not familiar with that part of the plan..."

Innocent Americans are suddenly guilty of a federal crime if Obama's plan goes into effect?

An Investors Business Daily article that claimed Section 102 of the House health legislation would outlaw private insurance. He asked: "Is this true? Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed?" President Obama replied: "You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about..."

Again he doesn't know what's in his own plan?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 07/31/2009
- RadCenter I'm a Fan of RadCenter 26 fans permalink

1. Page 425 of H.R. 3200 (not "The Obama Plan" but the House Energy and Commerce Committee plan) outlines what should be discussed between a doctor and a patient SHOULD A PATIENT VOLUNTARILY ASK HIS OR HER DOCTOR FOR END-OF-LIFE COUNSELING. The counseling is not mandated; what is mandated is that Medicare must reimburse a doctor for such counseling as long as the patient has not received it within the past 5 years.

2. Page 16 (Section 102) means the exact opposite of what you are claiming. Read it in context of the entire bill (or even just the preceding few pages), and you'll see that what it is saying is that private insurers cannot enroll new clients UNDER THE OLD RULES once the new rules have taken effect. But private insurers most certainly can enroll new clients UNDER THE NEW RULES, which are decidely more advantageous to customers (e.g., YOU) than the old ones: Insurers won't be able to cancel people's coverage because they're sick or deny those with pre-existing conditions from getting coverage, etc. If you are enrolled in a private insurance plan when the bill becomes a law, page 16 guarantees that your coverage is "grandfathered in,"--that is, you get to keep it exactly as it is, even if it violates the new rules.

Obama is not familiar with the nonsense you are claiming is in the bill because the nonsense is not in the bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 08/18/2009
- AllieMD I'm a Fan of AllieMD 63 fans permalink

And House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), criticized Republicans who have been cheering the chaos on the Democratic side.

“I think the Republicans would like to see us fail,” Hoyer said.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25331_Page2.html#ixzz0M9gfrPNS

Of course we want to see them fail on this miserable bill!
Soooo glad that even the Dem Majority leader recognizes that the Dems are in chaos!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 07/24/2009
- RadCenter I'm a Fan of RadCenter 26 fans permalink

Please God tell me you're not actually an MD...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 08/18/2009
- Hopeington I'm a Fan of Hopeington 70 fans permalink
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Here is an email I just received from Democrats. com

Wow!! Thanks to your calls and emails on Friday, Rep. Dennis Kucinich's amendment to let states adopt single-payer healthcare passed the House Education and Labor Committee by 25-19 .

Of course the insurance industry will try to kill the Kucinich amendment during future votes, so we will watch carefully and keep you posted.

Today the House Energy and Commerce Committee (E&C) will vote on Rep. Anthony Weiner's amendment for an even better bill: universal (not state-by-state) single payer healthcare, Medicare for All ( H.R. 676 ).

Please call some of the Democrats on E&C right now and urge them to vote YES on Rep. Weiner's single-payer amendment to the healthcare bill.

If you speak with a staffer, post their reply here:
http://www.democrats.com/weiner-single-payer-vote-today

You can also urge your Representatives to support a nationwide Single Payer Health Care plan (H.R. 676) by signing our petition:
http://www.democrats.com/single-payer-petition?cid=ZGVtczQzNjIyM2RlbXM=

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 07/22/2009

I live in PA......All my reps have recieved way more calls against this plan..than for it....Call your Rep today

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 07/22/2009
- RadCenter I'm a Fan of RadCenter 26 fans permalink

Specter, at least, is also smart enough to know that disgruntled minorities are always more active but are nevertheless minorities. He knows the shouters are outnumbered.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 08/18/2009

This is it guys.......If Obama can break the Constitution and "Change Our Central Government" to Socialism.....we will loose 20 years of growth and wealth,until the Republicans and Central Democrats roll things back

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/22/2009
- Hopeington I'm a Fan of Hopeington 70 fans permalink
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>>>>>>>>>>crickets

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 07/22/2009

First let me begin by saying that I’ve made Corp. America $millions.

What both Privatization Capitalism and Communism both failed to realize is that there is a role for government to protect society. (Not the kind of protection from gay marriage feared by the Christian right, used a puppets for blood money.) Both communism and privatizat­ion/capita­lism believe in freedom, whether it be freeing the individual from class distinctions or creating free market conditions (Milton Friedman, market economies are inherently stable if left to themselves, laissez faire. )

What both communism and privatization capitalism assumes humans are altruistic, that they will not lie to each other in “free market” transactions or Marx believing putting humans in such conditions that they would not wish to exploit others.. In a simpler form its kinda like Reagan’s“Tickle Down Economics”.

Also an assumption of privatization is that by examining a government’s performance versus the private sector cost savings will be generated. Per the Smith Group Consulting’s website, “This allows the governmental unit to develop a competitive strategy and return savings to its citizens in the form of better services and/or lower taxes”. If this were truly the case, we would have single payer health care and wouldn’t be spending billions, trillions on war in Iraq.

So bottom line, Republicans are no better than Communists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 07/22/2009
- RadCenter I'm a Fan of RadCenter 26 fans permalink

I agree, we would. Fortunately Obama is not attempting to do anything of the kind. Nice straw man, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 08/18/2009
- PINO I'm a Fan of PINO 18 fans permalink
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The Socialist Party candidate for President of the US, Norman Thomas, said this in a 1944 campaign speech:

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every principle of our socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without ever knowing how it happened."

He went on to say: "I no longer need to run on the Socialist Party ticket because the Democrat Party has now adopted our platform."

Call your Congressman. Call your Senator. Tell Them to VOTE NO on health care reform. Make sure that this becomes obama's Waterloo. Break Him. Make him a Lame Duck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 07/22/2009
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(yawn)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 07/22/2009
- PNG I'm a Fan of PNG 51 fans permalink
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Exactly...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 07/23/2009
- Buddy McCue I'm a Fan of Buddy McCue 134 fans permalink
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You're afraid of a man from 1944?

Hilarious!

By the way, did I mention that basic healthcare is the Constitutional Right of every American? Just so's ya know!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 07/22/2009
- gotsmarter I'm a Fan of gotsmarter 7 fans permalink
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Because their "just say no" pact (the continued if-we-stic­k-together­-and-vote-­no-then-we­-can-ruin-­the-Presid­ent pact) has been exposed as selfish and self-serving, some simpering Congresspersons are speaking today as if they are "doing the best we can to work with this President., but he just needs to slow down."
Nonsense.
Presidents have tried to buck lobbyists and their sycophants for decades. Enough time has passed. It's time to do what's right without buckling to big business and their strong-arm pacts. Get something done, and then you can argue and tweek it forever if you must.
Congratulations to some Senators and Representatives for sticking with the President. You're doing the right thing for all of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 07/22/2009

I have been with both private and government run health care and I can say that private health care is much better. While on medicaid my children and myself did not get the care and attention we needed by doctors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 07/22/2009
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 64 fans permalink

If your statements are truthful, and you are who you appear to be, and not a paid agent (shill) of the insurance lobbies, then regardless of the qualities of care, HOW can you AFFORD private healthcare insurance, if your family income level qualifies you for Medicare ??? Let's get serious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 07/22/2009
- gotsmarter I'm a Fan of gotsmarter 7 fans permalink
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Stein's article prompted a lot of shills. They're scrambling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 07/22/2009

Your Democrats have made this expensive...they want you as a slave...join the tea parties....We are marching Washington on Sept 12 TO OVERTHROW SOCIALISM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 07/22/2009
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 64 fans permalink

Correction -- Medicaid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 07/22/2009
- jemborg I'm a Fan of jemborg 65 fans permalink
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Yes, Medicare is what we have in Oz, that's our public medical insurance. And whilst private is better our Medicare is not bad.

But these people rely on ignorance of what really goes on in the rest of the developed world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 07/22/2009
- Hopeington I'm a Fan of Hopeington 70 fans permalink
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I was on Blue Shield Insur when my son was 16 (2002) and had brain surgery, that cost $100,000. I never paid any thing, but have a horror story about our stay in Lucille Packard Childrens Hospital, attached to Stanford, in CA. A few years later, I had an accident, lost my job, hence my insur, and put him on state funded medi-cal. The treatment was absolutely no different from the care we received with "good" insur. I never had to wait, could see pretty much anyone we wanted, we got him off state funded care, but due to continued seizures, he recently had to reapply and is receiving his needed medication. I want a public option I can afford,still suffering from my accident and am under employed, You all can keep your good insur, but why deny me a chance for a choice?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 07/22/2009
- Hopeington I'm a Fan of Hopeington 70 fans permalink
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If I don't get that choice, I thank the tax payers for their continued support in keeping him alive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 07/22/2009
- murphy80 I'm a Fan of murphy80 9 fans permalink

whatsamatta, cain't the banksters get it done for you.

your trusting bloggers are out picking up aluminum cans and waiting on their unemployment checks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 07/22/2009
- MaeScott I'm a Fan of MaeScott 15 fans permalink
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No, most of us are calling and writing our congresscritters, and supporting our President.
And being crude is really classy.

RedState and Townhall is that way ---------->

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 07/22/2009

On the contrary most well informed patriots are protesting and calling our members in congress and telling them the truth about this bill and to not support it. Every where we go our representitives response is that "I didn't know that" or " I didn't read the bill" here we go again. Obama is lying there is no provision to keep your health care, Insurance companies are forbidden to write now policies after this bill goes into effect.

Get the facts sheeple this is goverment take over of health care, the largest financial instution in this country. Total controll is what this administration wants. Think about it
Where is freedom in 2009?

WTP

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 07/22/2009
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Attention all Obama Backers!!!
He has ask for our help once more. We need to get fired up and contact all of Congress on the Health care plan. We need a Health care plan as good as theirs.Republicans are throwing out the scare tactic to get us to back down. Lets get out there and do what we all do best. Stick together, and get behind him and help get the word out.
Thank You

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 07/21/2009
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 64 fans permalink

Beverly, 100% with you !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 07/22/2009
- PINO I'm a Fan of PINO 18 fans permalink
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Hey I have every Congressman and Senators email and phone number. I plan on calling them (free minutes with AT&T). But guess what. I wont share this information with you guys.

Why would I?
I am a ReTHUGlican.
And Proud of it.
I am the Party of No (No obama will not spread my wealth).

See ya, hate to be ya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 07/22/2009
- MaeScott I'm a Fan of MaeScott 15 fans permalink
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That is why your side lost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 07/22/2009
- Buddy McCue I'm a Fan of Buddy McCue 134 fans permalink
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Have I mentioned yet that basic healthcare should be a right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 07/22/2009
- Hopeington I'm a Fan of Hopeington 70 fans permalink
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My question is:
If it's going to cost a trillion $ to fund health care, what would it cost if we didn't?
And how come the banks were worth going into debt for, but we the people aren't worth the $$$?
And I agree with Tyrone Jones comment When did public become a bad word or idea?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 07/21/2009
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 64 fans permalink

The public = we the people. People understand that in their guts. But paid party consultants like Frank Luntz have made it their professional genius to create and repeat and repeat and repeat bad word associations in the minds of people consuming news, just as you have described and questioned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 07/22/2009
- PINO I'm a Fan of PINO 18 fans permalink
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If we gave everyone (who is not currently covered) a $6000 check to buy their own health insurance, it would still be cheaper then this boondoggle.

But obama and his crew don't just want to run the health care, they want to own it, and own YOU at the same time.

When you hold the fate of millions of people in you hand, you hold their freedom. And that is what obama and his administration want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 07/22/2009
- MaeScott I'm a Fan of MaeScott 15 fans permalink
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Still smarting that Obama won, eh?

Tsk, tsk.

Free Republic is that way-------­----------­->

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 07/22/2009
- Dupree I'm a Fan of Dupree 208 fans permalink

You really need to stop the steady diet of intravenous feeding on the "scare tactics" that the Republicans has successfully been feeding those who thrive on fear.

What makes you think Obama wants to "own" the and "own" YOU at the same time? I think you are confuse. I think Obama really honestly do want Americans to have health care coverage like every other progressive and enlightened countries in the world. America is lagging not only in health care but also in education among other categories in the world. And we better wake up and stop the addiction to fear and paralysis that has impede our every effort to gain ground in the 21st Century.

You act as if you are not cognitive to the fact that Obama health care plan does not interfere with private plans. I know that this has become one of the major fear tactics to suggest his plan will eliminate private plans...NOT TRUE. I understand that the public option is just that...an option...what his plan does intend to do is interfere with the "profit making efforts" of insurance people who take people hard earned money and then when they are sick deny them coverage. Now, I for one would love to see the competitive component to private versus public...for then it would be a win win for the American citizen...who..have been nothing more but a pawn used to gain money in the health care industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 07/22/2009
- Buddy McCue I'm a Fan of Buddy McCue 134 fans permalink
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How do you know what they secretly want?

You know, simply making things up that support your preconceived notions doesn't make you sound smart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 07/22/2009
- jemborg I'm a Fan of jemborg 65 fans permalink
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" If we gave everyone (who is not currently covered) a $6000 check to buy their own health insurance, it would still be cheaper then this boondoggle."

For cripes sake, don't do that! The price of Private Medical Insurance would skyrocket... no wonder your ilk drove the economy into the gutter.

Masters Of The Universe indeed...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 07/22/2009

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 07/21/2009
- PINO I'm a Fan of PINO 18 fans permalink
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buddyMcCue wrote -- ...Healthcare IS a right.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/20/obama-calls-on-bloggers-t_n_241570.html?show_comment_id=27467108#comment_27467108
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Healthcare is a Right??? Is owning a home a Right??? Is that in the Constitution or the declaration of Independence???

There is a fundamental difference between a right and a need. For example, you need food, clothing and shelter. You have a right to pursue these needs; the government will not prevent you from buying a home, buying food or buying a new pair of jeans. The government does not, however, owe you a house, food or clothing. You have no right to housing, no right to food and no right to clothing.

So it is with healthcare. You need healthcare. Everyone does. But in order to provide you with that need, the government has to take from someone else. They either have to tax those who can afford it or compel the doctors, pharmacists and hospitals to provide it for free.

Think back to that “free” house, though. Think how hard those workmen would work if they knew that they either weren’t being paid for their efforts, or that some nebulous body called “taxpayers” were paying them. Also, consider how many people would voluntarily buy their own house when they knew that others had gotten on for free.

Buddy, you are an ID10T.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 07/21/2009
- PNG I'm a Fan of PNG 51 fans permalink
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PINO
"So Healthcare is NOT a Right and Buddy, you"re an ID10T"

and, yes you do have a point, but it doesn't stop you from being a paranoid anti-socialist. Have you actually done research about National Health Care systems driven by tax payers in other countries? If you did , you would have realized that one of the most advanced health care programs, including its STANDARD of care that ranks highest in the world is in Sweden, New Zealand, and Canada. The US is NOT even in the top 50.

Can't be ALL bad, but like I stated before, YOU DON"T HAVE TO WORRY, as EVERY politician is in the pocket of Big Pharma. It will NEVER happen. But, of coarse had you have done further research rather than spend your time trying to put the wood to all these 'liberals' on a LIBERAL-LEANING site such as HuffPo, then perhaps you would be armed with something more than pseudo-intellectual ad-homenim filled tripe trying to quantify as knowledge.

You would actually be informed.

...but, alas, ignorance is bliss...and narcissism blind...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 07/21/2009
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 64 fans permalink

You're so misguided, it's hard to know where to begin to set you straight. Owning a home is optional, because one could rent. Consuming food, for most people, maybe except for you, is entirely NOT OPTIONAL and NON-NEGOTIABLE condition of sustaining life, PERIOD ! If you don't understand that, you're wasting your time and others' time commenting here, because NOBODY believes you. Revolutions in history have started when enough people go without access to food.

Now millions and millions more of Americans are belatedly waking up to the essential fact of life --- that without health and guaranteed affordable access to maintain health, they stand high risk of losing their lives, or of their loved ones, or suffer silently in solitude while a catastrophic health problem reduces them to indentured economic slavery, when they go totally underwater in debts.

I don't know what motivates your intellect or moves your emotional maturity, and I'm not particularly interested. But you have no right (that you talk so much against) to spread unfounded logic and propaganda against other people, most people, in fact ALL PEOPLE, including you, to claim their natural born biological right to access to food and civil right to healthcare maintenance, IN ORDER TO AFFIRM THE AMERICAN DECLARATION OF LIFE, LIBERTY, and PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS as a core American value. You got that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 07/22/2009
- PINO I'm a Fan of PINO 18 fans permalink
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Health Care is still NOT a Right. Period.

Got That?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 07/22/2009
- Buddy McCue I'm a Fan of Buddy McCue 134 fans permalink
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I never mentioned a free house. You pulled that out of the air.

You can't just make up a position that you want to argue against. I know, I know, Rush Lmbaugh does this, and you think that makes him sound smart. It doesn't, and you don't.

You have no point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 AM on 07/22/2009
- MaeScott I'm a Fan of MaeScott 15 fans permalink
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PINO is an id.io.t tr@ll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 07/22/2009
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Wonder what PINO means? Probably something rac is t.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 07/22/2009
- jemborg I'm a Fan of jemborg 65 fans permalink
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Hell yeah !!

Whilst we're at it, let's ditch primary school education...teach em' a lesson... everybody watches TV anyway... how about Fox? O'Rielly?.­...O'Reall­y! It's overrated?... Free speech? "What's that you say, I CAN'T HEAR YOU, talk to the hand-gun."... Dump the right to council, dignity and a fair trial, rubbish!... Free Press? Stamp that out... Equality has born unbalanced minds. I was bored more equal anyway... Sack the Cops, maybe? We've already Privatised Prisons, Private Patrolmen... it just follows... ah, shoot em anyway. Line em up I say! Not the Cops... the prisoners!... Fire Department,? I'd pour water on that idea. Not a place to live?.. gitowttahere. Lordy me, next they'll want me to buy them a Cadillac! They haven't a prayer. Pray for them... Right to Privacy? What have you got to hide? What is it that you haven't told us? Tell us why YOU think it is that we bought you here?... (That alibi of waterboarding near Miami last long weekend just doesn't wash)... One man, one vote... can we even count that as a right? How about we invent a new term? A "College" of Votes. That's sounds more impressive. More learned. Righteous... Positive Discrimination has no merit... Ah, what the heck! Democracy is just a load of ancient wog pinko socialist wog hippy libertine woggy phallus-y.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 07/24/2009
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the bill is on gov.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 07/21/2009
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