Afghanistan's Youth Defy Parents And Rock To Western Pop (VIDEO)

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First Posted: 07-30-09 04:05 PM   |   Updated: 07-31-09 10:20 AM

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By Jean MacKenzie and Mohammad Sediq Behnam

HERAT -- Sex, drugs and rock n' roll: It's the young person's menu of choice the world over. Afghanistan, the land of endless war and timeless values, is no exception.

While the older generation bemoans the death of traditional culture, teenagers are happily swapping music videos of titillating singers whose lyrics they may not understand, but whose provocative movements need no translation.

"Shakira has a beautiful body," sighed Nasir, a 10th grader in Herat, the ancient city in western Afghanistan that many would classify as the country's cultural capital. He was watching a clip of the Colombian star on his mobile phone. "She is intoxicating."

In deeply conservative Afghanistan, where a few inches of ankle can set tongues wagging and eyes sparkling, it is understandable why young men admire the scantily clad diva. Nasir and his friends are part of a growing movement in Afghanistan that sees young people rejecting the traditional music of their fathers' generation in favor of something a bit more contemporary.

"I believe the time for listening to old music is over," Nasir said. "Young people are looking for something new and interesting. There is nothing we need in the old stuff."

Not so, says the older generation, for whom the catchy couplets of "Hips Don't Lie" are a poor substitute for love songs made from the 13th-century words of the poet Rumi.

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"This new music is very weak," said Hafizullah Gardesh, a well known singer and musician: "It is not good for poetry, not good for language, not good for anything. Young people like it for only one reason: it is sexy."

Well, exactly.

Afghans love their music. One of the main objections ordinary people had to the Taliban regime was the fundamentalists' prohibition of any singing that did not involve their own a cappella war chants.

"Weddings were like funerals under the Taliban," said Abdul Qadir, 28, a Herati shopkeeper.

Traditional Afghan music is based largely on poetry performed to the accompaniment of the stringed rebab, the drum-like tabla and the harmonium. It is haunting and beautiful, but unlikely to spice up a teenager's weekend.

With the opening up of Afghanistan in 2001, when the U.S.-led invasion chased the Taliban off to a safer distance, young people are gaining access to the wider world through television, the internet and the pirated music videos for sale in shops all over the country.

What they are seeing provides a welcome contrast to what they get at home.

It is considered extremely risque in Afghanistan for women to move to music, requiring female singers to stand stiff and immobile when delivering even the most impassioned lyrics.

A young vocalist, Setara, had to go into hiding for several months after she performed a relatively modest dance number on "Afghan Star" -- the televised music contest that has taken Afghanistan by storm.

Shabnam Soraya or Manezha Davlatova would hardly be household names in Paris or New York, but the two singers from Tajikistan are immensely popular in Kabul, thanks largely to their fluid onstage movements.

All of this amounts to a virtual assault on Afghanistan's traditional values and culture.

"Our country has been attacked not only militarily, but culturally," said Ustad Khoshnawaz, a 55-year-old singer in Herat whose heyday was back in the 1980s. "People now prefer young singers who play modern music on new instruments."

The erstwhile maestro now ekes out a living giving music lessons to the few students who remember him and want to learn his craft. He also runs a supermarket.

While Khoshnawaz struggles to keep his musical name alive, Jamshid Tapesh has no such difficulties. The head of Tapesh Music group, based in Herat, said that he is booked every single night for concerts and music parties.

"I make two music videos a year, in Tajikistan," he said. "I perform with Tajik girls. After people see my videos on TV a few times, they stand in line to book me and my group."

Tapesh appeals mostly to the younger crowd, whose musical tastes run to a faster, more upbeat style.

"Young people like sexy music. Mostly they ask for Iranian, Indian, Turkish, Arabic or Western songs," he said.

Musician Jalil Ahmad Dil Ahang calls the fascination with foreign music "cultural suicide."

"These new songs are against Afghan and Islamic culture," he said. "And most of them are very poor in terms of quality. Many of the singers know nothing about music."

Ahang wants the government to step in. "Officials should take measures to protect Afghan music and culture," he insisted.

Officials in Herat are more than happy to oblige.

"We will force the media to broadcast more local music," warned Nematullah Sarwari, head of the Herat Information and Culture Department.

He may find this a daunting task. Afghan media companies, like their counterparts all over the world, are interested in attracting listeners, not losing them.

"We almost never receive requests for local Herati songs," said Ajmal Yazdani, a director of Radio Watandar in Herat. "We try to broadcast the songs our audience wants."

There are a few isolated patriots of the old ways.

Mohammad Shah, a Herat taxi driver, said he listens mostly to local, traditional music. The new songs, he complained, are against Afghan culture and deviate from social mores.

"The music they play now on radio and TV is copied from other countries," he said. "Most of the singers are just kids, who cover up their musical weakness behind flashy clothes and beautiful girls. If we take the girls out of the music videos, I am sure that not even two people will want to watch them."

He may be right. Nasir, still watching Shakira, now seems a bit doubtful.

"I do not understand her language and I do not much care for the music," he said. "Still, I love the clip."

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By Jean MacKenzie and Mohammad Sediq Behnam HERAT -- Sex, drugs and rock n' roll: It's the young person's menu of choice the world over. Afghanistan, the land of endless war and timeless values, ...
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800 music shops bombed over three years - Shaheen Beneri

On 9 July 2009 The Media Line published Shaheen Beneri's article ‘Snuffing Music & Dance: The Taliban's Cultural Invasion’ where Shaheen Buneri describes the Taliban’s mission to ‘purge’ Swat valley of the evils of singing and dancing, and how different Taliban groups gradually has engulfed the whole of north-western Pakistan.

http://www.freemuse.org/sw34395.asp

SALMAN AHMAD
Musician (Pakistan)

In this video interview he tells about his experience of meeting with clerics in Pakistan and discussing
with them whether it is true that music is prohibited according to Islam.

http://www.freemuse.org/sw11317.asp

Song by Junoon condemning terrorism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtaP6UM3yvo

Aiman Udaas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaWHaR8cq5c

Pakistan's National Anthem by Junoon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6WroglRgfU

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 07/31/2009
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Rock and Roll, still changing the world after 50 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 07/31/2009
- Harrier I'm a Fan of Harrier 10 fans permalink

I wouldn't put their picture on the web. I feel their lives are at risk

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 07/31/2009
- NilesCrane I'm a Fan of NilesCrane 11 fans permalink

The quickest way to reform a country, and its always true, is to reform their musical preferences and expose them to a higher quality of life.

If we show them things that are usually scorned in their country, which means they are usually wanted, they will change very quickly.

give them some beyonce, whitney, mariah, britney, rihanna, and some madonna, some glitter and shine, and lots of skin and within months the people will be different.

Give them american television and within days that entire country will look just like alabama, and within a year san francisco.

the media is so powerful, if someone different says something is cool and it gets said over and over and over again, people will eventually think its cool, that how john mayer and dane cook became famous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 07/31/2009
- temenos I'm a Fan of temenos 23 fans permalink
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"that how john mayer and dane cook became famous."

Who?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 07/31/2009

Give them american television and within days that entire country will look just like alabama, and within a year san francisco.

What gives you the idea other countries want to be like America ?

I doubt the USA is any kind of role model, especially not in this part of the world. Your quality of life lacks a lot compared to most Western European countries. You have to work a lot harder for less. We have 5 weeks fully paid mandatory vaction in Germany, how much do you have ? We are covered health insurance wise and don't have to shell out a fortune for it. America is a fine country with lots of natural beautiful scenery. However places in the USA look more and more alike. Corporate America is very ugly, shopping malls, fast food joints, motels, chain restaurants, sometimes it is just the temperature or the vegetation that shows you what state you are in.

In many areas the USA is a cultural desert. Everything has to make money and if it doesn't it will be closed. Everything is measured in dollars and cents. There is a lot more to life than accumulating stuff or a big house or a big car. America is still young and can grow, but a role model, definitely not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 07/31/2009
- KeysE2S I'm a Fan of KeysE2S 26 fans permalink
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Well, thanks for inventing jazz, blues and rock music for us. Oh wait, we did that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 07/31/2009
- catrst I'm a Fan of catrst 20 fans permalink

You make many good points however in our own defense our pendulum is swinging back the other way toward more authenticity and quality. We are a very vibrant and diverse community of people, from all over the world, including Germany, that is ever moving forward in the grand experiment of democracy. We've got our issues but I think we are in for another very momentous period of progress. Wish us well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 07/31/2009
- KeysE2S I'm a Fan of KeysE2S 26 fans permalink
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Also, pardon us for not spending a few centuries mired in war with our neighboring countries. Would you feel better about us if we invaded Mexico every 10 years until 2300?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 07/31/2009
- JScott I'm a Fan of JScott 20 fans permalink

Seems to me it instead
would turn into a nation of incessant channel flippers who would find tv BORING
and then they would not watch as much of it like here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 07/31/2009
- raaf I'm a Fan of raaf 24 fans permalink
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I agree that the media is very powerful. That's what probably got you brainwashed into thinking that everybody wants to live the "American way of life"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 07/31/2009
- janmarie I'm a Fan of janmarie 10 fans permalink

oh whoopeee, now they can be just like us

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 07/31/2009
- Paulo1 I'm a Fan of Paulo1 41 fans permalink

Oh Bah!

This is written as if a few downloaded tunes are a major trend towards liberalization. Its not and only a tiny fraction of youth have access to the technology to listen to those tunes. And you fail to mention the nice morality laws that could get the possessor killed for having them. Scantily clad women are tantamount to pornography in Afghanistan.

Poorly researched, childishly written, pop journalism at its worst.

And by the way, Rumi would cry if he knew what a disaster Afghanistan had become. Rumi never wrote poetry extolling the beauty of hatred or intolerance or thuggery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 07/31/2009

"The democratic revolution coursing through society has changed our very definition of culture.The key to the reputation of,say,a singer in an old order would have been who liked her.The key to fame today is how many like her.And by that yardstick Madonna will always trump Jessye Norman.QUANTITY HAS BECOME QUALITY."(14, Fareed Zakaria)
Its not Just an Afghan Problem..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 07/31/2009
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dang, my comment got stuck in pending land.... womp womp

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 AM on 07/31/2009
- SSF I'm a Fan of SSF 29 fans permalink
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Change is inevitable. To oppose it is as futile as trying to be the immovable object that eventually gives way to the irresistible force.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 AM on 07/31/2009
- loOranks I'm a Fan of loOranks 4 fans permalink
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Sounds like the invasion of the Borgs... "resistance is futile".... ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 07/31/2009
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You WILL be assimilated!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 07/31/2009
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i want to marry shakira. huffpo, if you could get her that message? yeah thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 07/31/2009
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LOL Get in line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 AM on 07/31/2009
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And... this is world news #1 on the Huff?? Sinking to a new low...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 07/31/2009
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The article acts as if sex is a Western invention and that the couplets of these poets were not filled with passion - seek out a poet's works from Balkh. While not hedonistic, they are not particularly uncompromising and strict in tone. This is where hybrid music comes in handy. You can not ward off Western culture, rather, transmute it and make it your own. It beats having a state-backed act like Arian Band in Iran. I personally love BOTH traditional music and modern. God forbid diversity! Doing what their conservatives want is like asking those of European descent to only listen to ars antiqua era music. Quite frankly, Middle Eastern and Indian music has gained much from Persian. And these cultural transfers and hegemony have been happening since time immemorial by the dominant culture in its sphere of influence (nowadays this is of course worldwide in scope). Best to absorb and add your own flavor rather than the recipe of destruction wrought by anachronistic recalcitrance.

Relax... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fxrLIZpuvo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 AM on 07/31/2009
- lasublime I'm a Fan of lasublime 8 fans permalink
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Exactly, you cannot keep your culture in a glass case, it has to grow or it will be abandoned. I like hat west Africans (that's what I know best, there are probably other examples) have done, retaining their strong technically difficult rhythm traditions, weaving old ideas with newas well as supporting more classical forms, such as the griots, Toumani Diabate comes to mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 07/31/2009
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Sexuality and passion certainly aren't exclusive to the 'west', but we've commoditized, cheapened and mass-exported them in a way that no one else ever has. I think the deep, haunting longing of a ghazal is a long way off from something like Shakira, or Akon serenading a stripper by decorously declaring "I wanna f_ck youuu".

The problem is that many foreigners receive the worst, most ridiculously exaggerated elements of 'western' culture, and respond with pathetic blind imitation. Case in point, the "Funky Arabs" music video, complete with a bellydance striptease and in-the-club botox injections:

http://muslimahmediawatch.org/2009/06/11/let-the-funky-arabs-turn-you-on/

I think the young Saudi college students of my generation are often the worst examples of what the excesses of 'western' culture do to a person if left unchecked. But how can they help it, when sex, money, and drugs is generally what they are exposed to from our culture? It's embarrassing and depressing to watch people my age degrade themselves under the fixating spell of the mirage that is our pop culture. I feel ashamed when I see Saudi kids taking down the KSA flags in their dorm dorms and putting up posters of Scarface, or whenever they repeat some idiotic cliche about US culture to me, like how, to sleep with a girl, we just have wag our finger and say 'come here' (someone actually said this to me, matter-of-factly!). God help us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 AM on 07/31/2009
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Its paradoxical that Liberals love to taunt Iran for repression towards artistic expression, but Iran's cultural buffers have helped produce Iranian artistic expression which would otherwise been crushed by the West. In fact most countries recognized with distinct cultures and cultural expression also uphold cultural protection against Western cultural imperialism.

India still does this. Egypt. Iran. Turkey. Even South Korea.

Southern Vietnam had a fascinating devotion to American culture too, until it got overrun. A poor, helpless country like Afghanistan will suffer Shakira and liberal self-congr­atulations­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 07/31/2009
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Judging by your avatar, I can say you are still stuck in 13th century! Hello Shakira!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 07/31/2009
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"...Afghanistan will suffer Shakira...."

I don't understand the concept of 'suffering' Shakira.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 07/31/2009
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I volunteer to suffer Shakira.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 07/31/2009
- hidenout I'm a Fan of hidenout 8 fans permalink

You need to open your mind a little bit. Western cultural imperialism....? If it's so bad, why do people want it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 07/31/2009
- darthmaul I'm a Fan of darthmaul 17 fans permalink

India, I don't think so. Bollywood has one upped Hollywood. Egypt, Iran and Turkey? Yes this is true, they are insular countries. The flip side of "protecting" your culture, is being closed to any new ideas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 07/31/2009
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This is the height of imperialism and conquest. In order to communicate with the average American regarding imperialism:
there were peoples who invited Darth Vader to their lands and welcomed Imperial rule even when it was bad for them.

The fact that poetry, musical quality, and cultural expression by Afghanis are being dumped for simple raunch and lasciviousness from the West - and that is celebrated by Americans- is classic representation of imperialism.

Afghanistan would be wise to set up buffers to resist American and Western cultural imperialism, otherwise it will suffocate under the exploitation and arrogant weight of the obese behemoths of the West.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 07/31/2009
- cplKlyde I'm a Fan of cplKlyde 12 fans permalink

Yea how dare western performers provide pepole the music they want to listen to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 AM on 07/31/2009
- NilesCrane I'm a Fan of NilesCrane 11 fans permalink

really, we are just awful for selling something people want to buy!!! how dare we!! we need to be stoned!...oh wait i already am. ha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 07/31/2009
- darthmaul I'm a Fan of darthmaul 17 fans permalink

Yes, by all means stay in the 19th century while the world marches on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 07/31/2009
- Lean2left I'm a Fan of Lean2left 8 fans permalink

Rock on!! listen to some NIN though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 07/31/2009

Nine Inch Nails - Something I can never have
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEW8riKU_tE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 07/31/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 261 fans permalink
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I once had that song on a constant loop in Junior High after an adolescent heartbreak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 07/31/2009
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