13 Republicans Voted To Allow Single-Payer Systems In States

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First Posted: 07-31-09 05:00 PM   |   Updated: 07-31-09 05:49 PM

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In a largely unnoticed vote late last week, 13 small government-conservatives backed legislation that could facilitate the emergence of major government-run health care entities.

In an exquisite political irony, 13 Republicans on the House Education and Labor Committee offered their support for an amendment that allowed states to set up single-payer health care systems.

The amendment to the committee's health care bill allows states to essentially opt out of a national public health insurance option if they set up a single-payer alternative that meets similar standards for coverage. Offered by one of Congress's foremost liberals, Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), the legislation enables a system progressives have long desired.

So why would 13 House Republicans, after bemoaning Democratic plans for public health care for months, attach their names to the provision? Depending on who you ask, it's either a philosophical belief in states' rights or childish political shenanigans.

According to those who followed the vote closely, Republicans on the committee were eager to put potentially vulnerable freshmen Democrats -- particularly those from traditionally conservative districts -- on the spot. One plugged-in aide said the GOP lawmakers were "laughing and giggling" throughout the voting process.

But the amendment actually passed, after a host of veteran Democrats on the committee sided with Kucinich. The final tally was 27 Representatives in favor and 19 opposed, with two lawmakers not voting at all. Just how screwy was the vote? Education and Labor Chairman Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.) voted against the legislation despite being a co-sponsor of Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) bill to set up a national single-payer health care system.

Since then, some of the supportive Republicans have spun their votes as being in support of a states' rights, even though Democrats on the committee insist that was never their intention.

The amendment has the potential to trip up the GOP as the health care debate continues. The text could end up being in the House's final product, once it is merged with the version produced by the Energy and Commerce Committee. And when Republicans claim government bureaucrats will infringe upon the rights of consumers, Democrats will have a solid retaliatory point: 13 GOP lawmakers voted to allow single-payer plans.

In a conference call on Friday, Rep. Miller made direct reference to the amendment as a means of asserting that Republicans weren't honest participants in the health care debate. As one high-ranking Democratic aide in the House put it: "This amendment would allow states to opt out of the exchange and set up their own single-payer plan. Even if they made the states' rights argument -- would that really trump Republicans' opposition to the 'government' run health plan they've been so adamant against through this entire debate?"

The 13 Republicans:

Rep. John Kline (Minnesota)
Rep. Tom Petri (Wisconsin)
Rep. Buck McKeon (California)
Rep. Peter Hoekstra (Michigan)
Rep. Mike Castle (Delaware)
Rep. Mark Souder (Indiana)
Rep. Vernon Ehlers (Michigan)
Rep. Judy Biggert (Illinois)
Rep. Todd Platts (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Joe Wilson (South Carolina)
Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (Washington)
Rep. Tom Price (Georgia)
Rep. Brett Guthrie (Kentucky)

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In a largely unnoticed vote late last week, 13 small government-conservatives backed legislation that could facilitate the emergence of major government-run health care entities. In an exquisite pol...
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Single payer isn't a crime, its not the anti christ. Yet insurance companies and the president want you to assume it is. Why? Except for the few who backed single payer, every single one who voted against it, has financial intrest in its failure. They know damn well its the ONLY option that should be on the table, that it IS doable, and that if we Ended the war NOW, it would be financialy feasible. When will the public wake up to the fact our leaders are not representing us and only care about their own financial greed? This isn't a partisan issue, its a health care issue for and about all of us. Period. Until we see single payer on a ballot for the PUBLIC to vote on, nobody in the house or senate should have access to a vote or anywhere near it. This is about the Public, NOT thier Greed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 08/03/2009
- klo I'm a Fan of klo 11 fans permalink

Thank you for this. You're absolutely right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 08/03/2009

Read this on another thread in regards to another article but wanted to pass it along. Please go to http://www.PetitionOnline.com/CFC2009/petition.html and sign petition to amend US Constitution for "election campaign reform". We need "change" as we voted for change and this means CONGRESS MUST CHANGE and also election campaign funding to end the "influence peddling" from lobbyists. Thank you and PLEASE help this movement to millions of signatures. We can do this together! Share this link, help it go ~~~~viral~~~~~.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 08/03/2009

Keep up the emails they are working. Send your representative your approval of the single payer system, emplasize we don't even need a private option just a public option. Let's take the middle man (insurance) out of the equation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 08/03/2009

Good policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 08/03/2009

Bad policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 08/03/2009
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who are you with, Aetna? United??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 08/03/2009
- DocJerome I'm a Fan of DocJerome 22 fans permalink

Doesn't matter how we get there, let's just go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 08/03/2009
- blaharumph I'm a Fan of blaharumph 14 fans permalink
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i agree! i wish texas could be represented here. would like to see more discussion in the media too.

some info: http://www.singlepayeraction.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 08/03/2009
- klo I'm a Fan of klo 11 fans permalink

I just watched M.Moore's "Sicko". Besides the 9/11 rescuers getting treatment in Havana that they couldn't get in the US, the most profound statement was made by the guy in England when he talked about how democracy shifted power from the richest to the general population. The doc in France said something similar.
Contradicting that is Democracy in the US. Instead of our elected officials passing laws that work for all of us, they get paid by big business (Health insurance and pharmaceutical companies) to do their bidding to keep us from getting the best that money can buy. These companies are allowing Americans to die so that they can share a big pie among themselves.
If a poor nation like Cuba at an average of $250/pp per year, can provide the same treatments and medicines (woman paid $.05 for a prescrip she gets in the US for $120), democracy is dead or on life support here.
Mr. Potter, a guest on Bill Moyers last week, said that "Sicko" was accurate. I hope some of you will watch it, share it and make calls to your elected officials demanding universal health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 08/03/2009
- b1rd67 I'm a Fan of b1rd67 38 fans permalink

The real underlying problem here is not health care, or energy reform, or any other hot-button issue that the press reports on. The REAL problem that threatnes to destroy American Democracy is influence-peddling. What we need is real campaign finance reform!

http://www.petitiononline.com/CFC2009/petition.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 08/03/2009

Read this on another thread in regards to another article but wanted to pass it along. Please go to http://www.PetitionOnline.com/CFC2009/petition.html and sign petition to amend US Constitution for "election campaign reform". We need "change" as we voted for change and this means CONGRESS MUST CHANGE and also election campaign funding to end the "influence peddling" from lobbyists. Thank you and PLEASE help this movement to millions of signatures. We can do this together! Share this link, help it go ~~~~viral~~~~~.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 08/03/2009
- jsijason I'm a Fan of jsijason 26 fans permalink
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Absolutely! If these Senators stopped receiving so much money from big companies, you know damn well a lot of policies would be different in the United Banks of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 08/03/2009
- klo I'm a Fan of klo 11 fans permalink

Thanks for that clarification.
Unfortunately, it seems that it's not threatening to destroy American democracy but has it on the ropes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 08/03/2009
- Cambridge9 I'm a Fan of Cambridge9 76 fans permalink
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As soon as these guys knew that Kucenich was involved in this amendment their toes should have curled. But I guess they have tunnel vision - and it was a good scam. Clever Denis!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 08/02/2009
- jsijason I'm a Fan of jsijason 26 fans permalink
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No scam here, please try again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 08/03/2009
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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They want to look as IF they are for single payer?

We all know the states cannot afford this! They know it also!!

How many states didnt want to extend your unemployment? You think they will want to add thos program for YOU?

States are broke, cities are broke..

This needs to remain Federally funded.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 08/02/2009
- jsijason I'm a Fan of jsijason 26 fans permalink
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While in theory is sounds good - you're right, states cannot afford a project of this size.

Stabalize the economy, put people to work first, legalize marijuana, put some money in the coffers then consider it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 08/03/2009
- cripes I'm a Fan of cripes 3 fans permalink

After eight years of trying to destroy our country , how can anything they do surprise us...
Tried their best to destroy Medicare .
What more can be said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 08/02/2009
- whatthel I'm a Fan of whatthel 245 fans permalink
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Hopefully, nothing will be said about them for the next 7 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 08/03/2009
- cripes I'm a Fan of cripes 3 fans permalink

Whew! This is getting crazy.
This may make those in doubt of the public option more in support of it.
If all their cohorts are voting for some single payer plan then the Baucus and Grassley bunch are going to look like they are anti-American or totally out of step.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 08/02/2009
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This could go big if they follow through. There are a number of programs the feds allow states to share in. They administer local programs such as water quality, air quality, and workplace safety. They find that not only do they keep the size of fed government employment down, but the states are more productive and efficient than feds who have to be managed by a much larger overhead. The way it works is the state legislature passes enabling legislation and the feds put up some startup money. Later the programs get a percentage of their costs in exchange for meeting federal standards.
And bless the 13 dancing republicans who voted yes whatever their motives were.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 08/02/2009

I don't know if the rest of you are as fed up as I am with the obstruction and political game playing going on with this health care reform...but I DO know this - the Republican obstructionists and the Blue Dog Dems have absolutely NO clue what the rest of us are going through with healthcare. Maybe it's time they did!

If you agree, please sign the petition below, and forward it - any way you can - to anyone and everyone you know! Time to let them know how we feel!!!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/PubOp676/petition.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 08/02/2009
- neesy08 I'm a Fan of neesy08 18 fans permalink
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Everybody needs to go over to the DailyKos and read the blog. What this article does not say is that the GOP want prayer to be a part of the reform. I'm not against prayer, but what about the atheist and agnostics? What about people who never ever pray? The GOP are putting their so-called Christian beliefs ito the bill.
The states opting out is a ploy the GOP are using to have to not participate in Obama's reform if it passes. They are trying to make this a STATES RIGHT issue. When I hear STATES RIGHTS I think of discrimiation. FLORIDA GOP members are already trying to set this up.

http://www.dailykos.com
Look to the right ledger and scroll and look for the heading about Repubs for single payer

If they are really for single payer, they should be supporting the public option

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 08/02/2009
- hauty007 I'm a Fan of hauty007 3 fans permalink

Many "facts" are false hoods,
although , if you consistently assert them as undisputed facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 08/02/2009
- daedelus I'm a Fan of daedelus 36 fans permalink
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Try not to slobber on your keyboard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 08/02/2009
- Buddy McCue I'm a Fan of Buddy McCue 134 fans permalink
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Yes, but to be forewarned is to have four arms...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 08/02/2009
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