Russian General Confirms Submarine Patrols Near US East Coast

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VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV | 08/ 5/09 10:21 AM | AP

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MOSCOW — A senior Russian military official said Wednesday that Russian nuclear-powered attack submarines spotted off the U.S. East Coast were on a legitimate training mission.

U.S. defense officials said Tuesday that two Russian submarines had been patrolling in international waters for several days. While the activity was reminiscent of the Cold War, the U.S. officials said the submarines had done nothing to provoke concern.

Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn, a deputy chief of the General Staff of the Russian military, said the patrols were part of efforts to give more training to the military forces.

"The Navy mustn't rest dockside," Nogovitsyn said at a news conference.

The submarine patrols coincided with angry words from Moscow about U.S. military assistance to Georgia a year after the Russian-Georgian war.

The August war drove U.S.-Russian relations to a post-Cold War low. President Barack Obama has sought to overcome the strain and improve ties. But U.S. officials said that they have not ruled out providing defensive weapon systems for Georgia despite warnings by Russia.

The U.S. is discussing a Georgian request for $16 million in military aid this year, with most of the money intended for training and technical assistance.

Grigory Karasin, a deputy Russian Foreign Minister, said Wednesday that Moscow was seriously concerned by the U.S. military assistance to Georgia. "That worries us and forces us to take relevant steps," he said without elaboration.

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Nogovitsyn said that U.S. submarines had also engaged in missions off Russia's coast, but wouldn't provide any details.

"It's a normal thing," Nogovitsyn said about submarine patrols.

During the Cold War times, U.S. and Soviet submarines routinely played cat-and-mouse near each other's shores, surveying the adversary's movements.

Nogovitsyn compared the Russian submarine deployment off the U.S. coast to regular patrol flights by Russian strategic bombers, saying both were necessary to improve crews skills.

The 1991 Soviet collapse forced the military to drastically cut training due to severe money crunch. But cash from the oil bonanza during Vladimir Putin's eight-year presidential tenure allowed the military to boost military spending and conduct more maneuvers.

Putin, now prime minister, has sought to showcase the Kremlin's global reach and reassert its claim to great-power status amid strained ties with the West. In 2007, he ordered the resumption of border patrols.

Putin's successor, President Dmitry Medvedev, also pledged to deploy Russian forces on regular maneuvers worldwide.

Last fall, a Russian Navy squadron sailed for Venezuela and held joint maneuvers with the Venezuelan navy in the first Russian deployment to the Western Hemisphere since the Cold War.

Russia recently also has deployed its navy ships to the Mediterranean and dispatched some to pirate-infested waters off Somalia, reflecting its determination to project power worldwide.

But analysts say that the Russian navy now is still only a shadow of what it was during Cold War times. It suffered a new humiliating blow last month, when the prospective Bulava missile intended to equip new Russian nuclear submarines again failed during a test launch – the seventh failure in its 11 test launches so far.

MOSCOW — A senior Russian military official said Wednesday that Russian nuclear-powered attack submarines spotted off the U.S. East Coast were on a legitimate training mission. U.S. defense off...
MOSCOW — A senior Russian military official said Wednesday that Russian nuclear-powered attack submarines spotted off the U.S. East Coast were on a legitimate training mission. U.S. defense off...
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- dieselis I'm a Fan of dieselis 11 fans permalink

Are those cats hanging out in the Chesapeake Bay. Still trying to listen in on Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 08/08/2009

Richmond is their target. Eric Cantor is their man!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 08/08/2009
- essbird I'm a Fan of essbird 21 fans permalink
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We're in the process of closing the Brunswick (Maine) Naval Air Station, where sub patrol planes have been flying from since World War II. Closest base to Russia. Closest base to Europe. Does that make sense to you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 08/07/2009

Yes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 08/08/2009
- KCRoger I'm a Fan of KCRoger 8 fans permalink
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They're delivering supplies to Orly Taitz. Soon their plan to overthrow our government will come to fruition!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 08/07/2009
- jrjones529 I'm a Fan of jrjones529 32 fans permalink
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despite what the intentions are of the Russians being there, or vice versa, the purpose of nuclear attack submarines is to launch weapons capable of massive destruction of many innocent lives. Ain't it great to be human and all?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 08/07/2009

And where are ours?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 08/08/2009
- LOCUTUS13 I'm a Fan of LOCUTUS13 18 fans permalink
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Time to calm down. I would bet my paycheck that there is one of our subs close behind. It's called chicken of the sea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 08/07/2009
- dieselis I'm a Fan of dieselis 11 fans permalink

and an Aircraft upstairs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 08/08/2009

Paris Hilton needs to hear that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 08/08/2009
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My guess is they’ve been following the news in this country and they’re just standing by waiting to taunt us if Capitalism run amuck implodes.

I can just here them now, “and you thought you had the answer, well you outlasted us by twenty years. Na-NaNa-Na-Na.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 08/07/2009
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Dufuzz, Russia IS a capitalist country. Pick up some newspapers from the last 15 years or so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 08/07/2009
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LOL, you’re right. I just recalled flipping through the cable news channels a few weeks ago and catching an economic report on Russia (in progress), and being relieved when I realized it wasn’t on the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 08/07/2009
- cimbri I'm a Fan of cimbri 38 fans permalink
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This is what happened when Carter was president. Every country started treating us like a doormat. So far it's NK missiles flying everywhere, hostages, Russian nuke subs off the East Coast, the Chinese lecturing us. All of this in just 6 months. It's going to be a long 4 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 08/06/2009

oh jebus spare us from the "When Carter was President" memes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 08/07/2009

and Buddy Hackett! Alan Arkin too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 08/07/2009
- Lavina I'm a Fan of Lavina 12 fans permalink

Get some facts, instead of listening to Rush Limbaugh. How can you live this way?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 08/07/2009
- MillinMn I'm a Fan of MillinMn 41 fans permalink
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Heavens, you're just wrong. Who treats us like a door mat, back then or now? No one that I can think of

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 08/07/2009
- KCRoger I'm a Fan of KCRoger 8 fans permalink
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If I recall, Bush had to apologize because a Chinese pilot was killed when he ran his fighter jet into our slow moving spy plane that was flying above international waters. There is always saber-rattling. There is no great conspiracy of foreign powers to push around the US now that the Republicans are no longer in charge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 08/07/2009
- dieselis I'm a Fan of dieselis 11 fans permalink

Don't you just love them. Everything thats gone wrong in the country since the Delaration of Indepence was signed. Is Barak Obama's fault. We've only been a country for 6mos. Since the last 8yrs are classified or didn't really happen. gotta luvit

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 08/08/2009
- twopac I'm a Fan of twopac 23 fans permalink

Don't worry, Palin is in New York watching the subs. Palin has our backs!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/05/sarah-palin-dines-at-mich_n_251712.html#postComment

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 08/06/2009

What? Then who's watching the invasion route into Alaska?

This sub was just a decoy to lure Palin away!

;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 AM on 08/07/2009
- Subterfuge I'm a Fan of Subterfuge 17 fans permalink

Just a bit of, "How does it feel?", going on here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 08/06/2009
- Paul Baack I'm a Fan of Paul Baack 5 fans permalink
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"THE ЯUSSIANS ДRE COMING, THE ЯUSSIANS ДRE COMING!"

Where's Jonathan Winters when you need him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 08/06/2009
- marirose I'm a Fan of marirose 4 fans permalink
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Funny, I just read a story to my twin 3 1/2 yr old niece and nephew called "Here Comes the Cat" by Frank Asch and Vladimir Vagin. It's writes the phrase in Russian throughout the book (gives the pronunciation in the front). It shows a country of mice warning each other that "Here Comes the Cat, Here Comes the Cat." All h*ll breaks lose as each and every mouse spreads the word about the Cat who's coming (they even warn the fish in the ocean). Finally, you see the extremely large shadowed head of the cat and a look of terror on all the faces of the mice. The next page shows a smiling cat pulling a huge trailer bed with an equally huge round of cheese for all the mice. The mice use ladders to climb up and eat the top of the cheese, also carving their way inside, and others are seen pouring a bowl of cream for the kind cat, while others groom her/him as s/he rests.

The analogy is very clear about our fear of the Russians. Yes, Here Comes the Cat and S/He is bringing lots of cheese for us to enjoy. Imagine, just imagine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 08/06/2009
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It is the Russian''s way of saying "We are still here." and it is our way of saying "Yes we know. Been watching you guys swim around for a week or two out there. Have a good day."

They do the same to us when our subs get close to their Naval/military installations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 08/06/2009

A: There would heck to pay if a country invaded the USA as almost all americans are armed. With a country full of hunters and high power rifles its like taking on a country of snipers.

B: What is the Russian sub off Georgia? Kings Bay Navel Sub base (a nuclear sub base) Also, NAS Jacksonville and Mayport Navel base are right across the state line. The US Navy has towers about 100 miles out and we knew they where coming a long time ago. The Russian Sub is here only by the pleasure of the US Navy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 AM on 08/06/2009
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Your inference in part A is one of the principal reasons that the Japanese declined to invade the lower 4o during WWII.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 08/06/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 381 fans permalink
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Urban legend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 AM on 08/07/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 381 fans permalink
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I'm more worried about the fleet of Chinese container ships bringing their cheaply manufactured goods here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 AM on 08/07/2009
- VINER I'm a Fan of VINER 2 fans permalink
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Right on! Our trade polices of no tarifs on imports are killing us now. Thanks to Reagan/Clinton
-v

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 08/07/2009
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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Where would we be IF repeating IF, another country decided the time was ripe as most of our military is stuck in a desert, IF someone decided to invade us? Homeland and Fema are not equiped to handle outside invaders. How much of our military are within our shores and how many of them are stationed through out the world? Any guesses?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 08/06/2009
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BW and Xe would save us...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 08/06/2009

A: There would heck to pay if a country invaded the USA as almost all americans are armed. With a country full of hunters and high power rifles its like taking on a country of snipers.

B: What is the Russian sub doing off Georgia? Kings Bay Navel Sub base (a nuclear sub base) Also, NAS Jacksonville and Mayport Navel base are right across the state line. The US Navy has towers about 100 miles out and we knew they where coming a long time ago. The Russian Sub is here only by the pleasure of the US Navy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 08/06/2009

I can also assure you that the Russian sub has an American shadow and does not even know it.

- US Navy Retired

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 08/06/2009
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Been there, done that. Too true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 08/07/2009
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how is any invading force going to get here? We can see everything that happens and any invading army would be eliminated long before they reached our shores. unless of course the chinese have perfected teleportation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 08/06/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 381 fans permalink
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Nobody has the capability to project significant military power into this hemisphere.

Even at the height of the their power the Soviet Union was still mostly a land power.

Armchair generals talk tactics. Real generals talk logistics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 AM on 08/07/2009
- LOCUTUS13 I'm a Fan of LOCUTUS13 18 fans permalink
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I believe it was Heinz Guderian who said amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics.

I love your moniker!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 08/07/2009
- monty7 I'm a Fan of monty7 4 fans permalink

The nuclear deterrent. It's what keeps us all safe. The U.S./Russia is not going to start anything nasty against one another when they know they'll get it back in the form of glass parking lots.

It's the definition of terrorism; being terrorized against doing something stupid to another nuclear power

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 08/06/2009
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yeah if they fling any nukes at us and damage anything they'll have hell to pay from our Chinese owners.........and they're much closer than us to Russia...you break it you own it...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 08/06/2009
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Hate to break the news to you, but the US and Russian military establishments are enjoying cooperation and intelligence sharing at unprecedented levels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 08/06/2009
- OneTop I'm a Fan of OneTop 93 fans permalink
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Easy folks ... it's just the filming for a new reality TV show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 08/06/2009
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