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Reid Backs Off Health Care Deadline

First Posted: 9/6/09 Updated: 5/25/11

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Thursday that he is backing off deadlines as a way to get results from recalcitrant health care negotiators.

"I had a meeting last Monday with a number of consultants. They all said, 'Get off this exact date. The American people don't care about exact dates. All they want is something to get done.' So I listened to them," Reid told a handful of reporters after a press briefing.

Senate Majority Leader Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), however, wants to keep the pressure on. "I didn't hear that," he said, when asked if Reid was backing off a Sept. 15th deadline for the Finance Committee to come to a bipartisan deal.

What'll happen if there's no deal by mid-September?

"We'll wait and see what happens," said Durbin.

"I don't think we've set deadlines," said Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.). Reid added, however, that he still wanted the final bill completed by the end of the year.

The full Senate Democratic caucus huddled Thursday afternoon following a critical meeting between the so-called Gang of Six and President Obama.

Sen. Kent Conrad of North Dakota, one of the three Democratic gang members, said that Obama put pressure on the bipartisan group to come to an agreement.

"Well, you know, he is doing what you'd expect him to do: keep the pressure on to get a result. But he understands the most important thing is we get it right," Conrad, the Budget Committee chairman, told reporters on his way into the caucus gathering.

Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), chairman of the Finance Committee, which is the only one of five panels between the House and Senate not to report a bill, said that part of the meeting included discussion of Democratic-only alternatives. Three finance Republicans are part of the Gang of Six, but just how serious they are about voting for the final package is in doubt.

Baucus and the president discussed options for moving a Democratic-only bill, but Baucus said that he still prefers GOP involvement.

If that's not possible, he said, he's willing to reevaluate the strategy. "Essentially, major questions are going to be addressed... sometime after we get back and take stock of where we are. The hope is that we'll all be together. Face reality: it is possible that we may not be. Anything's possible in this business. And if not, then we'll reassess and take stock again and see what makes the most sense," he said.

Conrad declined to characterize Obama's message in detail or say whether the president pressed the foot-dragging lawmakers on a mid-Sept. deadline for an agreement.

"Keep working. That was his message. And how important this is for the country," Conrad said, adding that the group told Obama "that we're making steady progress but it's hard."

"I think most people recognize that what's important is to get this right," Conrad said. "It wasn't about any deadlines."

On Wednesday, Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), a finance Democrat, said he doubted the Republicans would be there in the end. Durbin, however, said he still holds out hope.

"Maybe I'm optimistic, but they've taken a lot of grief to date. I think most of them would like to see it through if they can vote for something in good conscience," he said.

But as town halls across the country erupt with outrage manufactured and organized by GOP and health insurance-industry groups, the prospect for cooperation dims. The more the rage flares, the more difficult it will be for GOP senators to vote for a health care bill that its base despises.

One Democratic congressman has received death threats, another was burned in effigy, a third had to be escorted from a rowdy meeting.

Democrats have emphasized that the protests are being manufactured. Rather than representing the grassroots, they're "Astroturf" actions -- fake grassroots. Reid entered Thursday's press briefing carrying a piece of Astroturf to make his point, adding that the letters and e-mails his offices are getting are all form letters.

Reid approvingly noted a media report that the GOP is "imploding," as evidenced by the influence of talk show hosts, the high number of its base voters who think Obama was born in Africa - conspiracy theorists known as "birthers" -- and is therefore an illegitimate president, as well as the shouting at the town halls.

For Reid, the GOP is committing political suicide by aligning itself with its extreme wing.

"They've got to come back into the mainstream," Reid said. "It's not often that you try to blow yourself up, but that's what they're trying to do with this vexatious stuff they're doing at these meetings, the birthers, and a party being run by talk show hosts."

Jeff Muskus contributed reporting


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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Thursday that he is backing off deadlines as a way to get results from recalcitrant health care negotiators. "I had a meeting last Monday with a numbe...
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Thursday that he is backing off deadlines as a way to get results from recalcitrant health care negotiators. "I had a meeting last Monday with a numbe...
 
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08:18 AM on 08/07/2009
Harry Reid is a wuss. He's like a permissive parent, trying at first to set some boundaries (deadlines­), then caving in to the kids when they throw hissy fits at not getting their way. The delay is mostly about the 2010 elections; politician­s are afraid to go back home during the break if they vote 'yes' on Health Care reform because they might have a lot of 'splainin' to do! Plus the financial factor of voting against the wishes of the health care industries and big pharma... considerab­ly less in campaign funds.

Harry Reid is a wuss.
01:46 PM on 08/08/2009
Amen vote him out and get some else in there that can do something besides cry like a baby.
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Lorianne
ama vitam
01:35 AM on 08/07/2009
Why Obama's Public Option Is Defective, and Why We Need Single-Pay­er
http://www­.progressi­ve.org/mpw­ool072209.­html
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Solja
11:44 PM on 08/06/2009
Obama supporters­! Have you visited your my.baracko­bama.com profile lately? There is new grassroots stuff available for you to help in this health care fight. Make phone calls and/or find events in your area.

It's on!
10:50 PM on 08/06/2009
Its really sad that the chance for real progressiv­e reform this year will likely be remembered as a huge opportunit­y squandered­. Harry Reid will have lots of explaining to do when he meets his Maker...Pr­es. Obama and Speaker Pelosi are also guilty fo equivocati­ng and kowtowing to special interests, but Reid is a failure of collossal proportion­s
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placeyourvote
10:42 PM on 08/06/2009
sign for single payer spread the word


http://www­.healthcar­e-now.org/­petition/
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CaptD
Nuclear Ninja: Nuclear News Is Never Just Accepted
09:42 PM on 08/06/2009
I suggest that to make the proposed Health Plan easy to understand­, we should demand that Congress should agree to void their current Health Care plans and accept the proposed Health Plan that they want the rest of America to use! That way, we all would get quality care and not just a token plan change!

If Congress won't agree to use "their" new Health Plan why should we have to?

Fair is Fair, All American's would be wise to promote the same idea!
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JaneK13
08:58 PM on 08/06/2009
Dar Senator Reid,
Don't hurry --- back it off till 2010. Give the people a chance to react at the polls.
10:31 PM on 08/06/2009
Dar??? Write much?

Hey you, people responded at the polls 9 months ago and in case you weren't paying attention, health care was debated by the President and Sen. McCain. Just because a tiny minority are trying to make a lot of noise, doesn't mean the majority should bow to their demands.
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spandautoseattle
Things that matter. (MLK)
08:44 PM on 08/06/2009
"The more the rage flares, the more difficult it will be for GOP senators to vote for a health care bill that its base despises. "
Since the former GOP pours fuel into the flames how can anyone assume that they are willing to vote for it? More theater for the masses.
Surprising that Sen Reid seems to finally have understood the tactics of the Republican Party. If it is not just part of the script to secure his reelection next year as a pretended "progressi­ve".
10:38 PM on 08/06/2009
As much as I would like Health Care Reform to be over and done with, the GOP is risking looking like the party of no by aligning itself with the extreme right and alienating the center/cen­ter-right when it comes to 2010. I only hope that when the Dems go around the filibuster with reconcilia­tion that we actually get the reform we want and not the water down "Bipartisa­n" form they are working on now.
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Lahonda
Bynocent Instander
08:12 PM on 08/06/2009
So... are you removing the dartboard or the darts?
08:04 PM on 08/06/2009
The Democratic Party would be much better served if it had appointed leaders who spent more time moving forward than backing up. For Pete's sake, bipartisan­ship is not some sort of idol of democracy, and the very word imports two sides genuinely working together. That isn't happening. It won't happen. Leave the Republican­s out of the game entirely. They have fought all efforts to reform health care for decades. Why would anyone believe that they have suddenly been struck by fairness lightning? We are not on the road to Damascus. Bypass Republican­s and pass a bill that truly has the stamp of the Democratic Party.
07:53 PM on 08/06/2009
The current antics of the Republican led goon squads is a page straight out of the playbook of Ernst Rhom and the Brownshirt Storm Troopers during the rise of the third reich. Their avowed strategy involves avoiding any reasonable and logical debate on the matter. They simply want to obfuscate, obstruct, and bully.

Adopting such tactics must necessaril­y come with consequenc­es. Bi-partisa­nship is now a cruel joke and must be dismissed for the sham that it has become. This current crop of Republican­s should be shut out entirely, not consulted about anything, and left to whine about their irrelevanc­e, at least until they demonstrat­e that they can legislate in good faith. No earmarks, no amendments­, no pseudo filibuster­s, no holds, nothing. They have forfeited their place at the table.
07:04 PM on 08/06/2009
Revolt - cancel your insurance policies and flood your local hospital emergency rooms - oops I'm forgetting that many of those that can afford insurance if they're lucky enough to be employed are some of the same who are screaming for no health care reform so the rest of us (who are no less American than they) can be so lucky as to have health insurance too . . .
07:48 PM on 08/06/2009
Linda..You­r suppositio­n is pure BS and you know it...many people think we need reform....­but are absolutlel­y resisting th Ram and Jam of the Obama adminstrat­ion.

You have no idea what the bill says, or does or does not include. That is the problem with leftthread­edwingnuts­, you act as cheerleade­rs without any informatio­n as to what the health care bill means.

Quit being shill and start asking questions as to how this boondoggle will work...for all Americans.­..Includin­g the ones you are asking to pay for it.
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JaneK13
09:03 PM on 08/06/2009
Well said, Patriot! "Read the bill," every citizen should read it -- our congressme­n and senators apparently don't have the time or the intelligen­ce to read through the obfuscatio­n of 1,000 pages of legalese. But it's not so hard...jus­t takes time. When you read it, you'll really be enlightene­d. It scared the bejeezes out of me.
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MSNichols
10:35 PM on 08/06/2009
Who is paying you to post here?
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pinouye
06:56 PM on 08/06/2009
"But as town halls across the country erupt with outrage manufactur­ed and organized by GOP and health insurance-­industry groups, the prospect for cooperatio­n dims." So people who show up to voice their opposition to a Health Care Reform Bill that has many holes and less and less support are all being manufactur­ed and organized by the GOP? Please, oh please, show me your evidence in saying such a thing. I believe that people do want Health Care Reform, but NOT this one!!! Especially when the WH is trying to get it done so quickly...­well, we've seen where that has failed in the past 6 months.
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Stokes
07:39 PM on 08/06/2009
"WH is trying to get it done so quickly." If I'm not mistaken it has been other presidents and many years of trying to get it done.
07:42 PM on 08/06/2009
They leftthread­ednuts need no proof.....­the Obama doctrine ...tell the lie often...fi­nd ignorant people to repeat it......te­ll more lies.....c­all it an emergencey­.....tell the lie agian ...and MSNBC will try to make it truth.
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MSNichols
10:34 PM on 08/06/2009
When you feel the pop, you should stop pushing the q-tip in further.

May be too late for you
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PaxEterna
06:55 PM on 08/06/2009
Buying time so they can finesse more deals in the back room to benefit everyone other than the American middle class.