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Unions To Take On Conservative Groups Health Care Town Halls

First Posted: 09/06/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:45 PM ET

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The nation's largest federation of labor organizations has promised to directly engage with boisterous conservative protesters at Democratic town halls during the August recess.

In a memo sent out on Thursday, AFL-CIO President John Sweeney outlined the blueprint for how the union conglomerate would step up recess activities on health care reform and other topics pertinent to the labor community. The document makes clear that Obama allies view the town hall forums as ground zero of the health care debate. It also uses the specter of the infamous 2000 recount "Brooks Brothers" protest to rally its members to the administration's side.

"The principal battleground in the campaign will be town hall meetings and other gatherings with members of Congress in their home districts," reads the memo. "We want your help to organize major union participation to counter the right-wing "Tea-Party Patriots" who will try to disrupt those meetings, as they've been trying to do to meetings for the last month. ...

(Remember the hooligans - many of them Republican Congressional staff - who harassed Florida vote counters in 2000? We can't let that happen again!)."

A showdown between unions and grassroots conservative organizations could make for an August full of fireworks, with even more dysfunctional town hall meetings. The AFL-CIO is planning to target 50 "high priority districts," in addition to organizing telephone town hall gatherings.

But while the union conglomerate seems poised to flex its political muscle on Obama's behalf, it may find some friction on the policy front. Detailed in Sweeney's memo are certain legislative priorities that are clearly at odds with what seems likely to be produced in the Senate Finance Committee's compromise bill.

Sweeney describes it as a "requirement that ALL employers 'pay or play,'" that the final bill have "a robust public health insurance plan to compete with private insurers and drive down health costs," and that the legislation contain "relief for company/union funds providing pre-Medicare retiree coverage, and no taxation of health benefits!"

The AFL-CIO also promises to "Redouble our efforts on Capitol Hill against taxation of benefits OF ANY KIND, for including ALL businesses in the requirement to provide coverage, and for a robust public health insurance plan option."

According to reports on Thursday, the Senate Finance Committee is considering compromise legislation that will contain no public option for insurance and would tax health-care benefits of the most generous plans.

UPDATE: AFL-CIO Secretary Treasurer Richard Trumka sends out a scathing statement about the town halls, hitting on Sweeney's themes and calling the events corporate funded.

Every American has the inalienable right to participate in our democratic process. Our politics is passionate, heartfelt and often loud -- as was the founding of our nation. But that is not what the corporate-funded mobs are engaging in when they show up to disrupt town halls held by members of Congress.

Major health care reform is closer than ever to passage and it is no secret that special interests want to weaken or block it. These mobs are not there to participate. As their own strategy memo states, they have been sent by their corporate and lobbyist bankrollers to disrupt, heckle and block meaningful debate. This is a desperation move, meant to slow the momentum for change.

Mob rule is not democracy. People have a democratic right to express themselves and our elected leaders have a right to hear from their constituents -- not organized thugs whose sole purpose is to shut down the conversation and attempt to scare our leaders into inaction

We call on the insurance companies, the lobbyists and the Republican leaders who are cheering them on to halt these 'Brooks Brothers Riot' tactics. Health care is a crucial issue and everyone - on all sides of the issue - deserves to be heard.


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The nation's largest federation of labor organizations has promised to directly engage with boisterous conservative protesters at Democratic town halls during the August recess. In a memo sent out on...
The nation's largest federation of labor organizations has promised to directly engage with boisterous conservative protesters at Democratic town halls during the August recess. In a memo sent out on...
 
 
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02:37 PM on 08/10/2009
It appears that Obama’s brown shirts will be out in force to stomp on free speech.

I would be pleasantly surprised to see them simply add talking points to the debate, but that doesn’t fit in with leftist tactics. It is far more likely that they will simply try to shout down and intimidate anyone who dares question the policies of our Dear Learder.
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11:57 PM on 08/12/2009
Pathetique.
10:53 PM on 08/09/2009
This is the strong grass roots pushback I've been longing to see!!

All right -- it's time to rock n roll!

These skinhead neocons have just met their match -- the teamsters.

Wait until the ordinary working Joes & Jills join their ranks as well.

You want a protest? You ain't protesting yet!!!!
01:07 PM on 08/10/2009
Yup, elderly ladies are skinheads and should get stomped by teamsters.

This is called an ad hominem attack and is used when someone runs out of logical points to make.
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ManhattanMC
My bio is far too large
01:37 PM on 08/10/2009
bitterwinger

We know have video-cell phone records of
Gladney (not exactly an elderly lady) moving toward a person on the ground as if to attack when he was prevented by a union man. We also have footage of Gladney walking over to the police without a sign of being injured-contrast that with his appearance in a wheelchair the next day.

Staged BS.
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reyvn77
11:17 AM on 08/09/2009
You know what, before they were in power the Natsees were an angry mob of german conservatives, physically threatening and harming "socialists" and unions.

just sayin'.
07:36 PM on 08/09/2009
nothing conservative about them
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ManhattanMC
My bio is far too large
10:55 PM on 08/09/2009
supplysidefantasist

Nazis are the essence of conservatism-
idealized white picket fence white folk BS-
demonization of ethnic minorities-
stealing elections by stuffing ballot boxes and
intimidating the opposition.

Sounds just like 'teabaggers' doesn't it.
09:52 PM on 08/08/2009
So Who is astroturfing. This is Classic, Hispanic dayworkers asked to carry signs for Healthcare. When asked if they knew what they were holding they said they did not know. Shills for Organizing for American. This is how liberals treat minorities.

Look at the photos on this link.
http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2009/08/pelosi-astroturf-healthcare/
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petef59
edit my micro-bio
12:41 AM on 08/09/2009
Shrill shilling
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ManhattanMC
My bio is far too large
10:59 PM on 08/09/2009
supplysidefantasist

the photos-minus the biased commentary-
show very clearly the difference between
health care industry shills and real people.

Is that all you've got ?
01:34 PM on 08/10/2009
That’s kinda the point. The photos without the facts providing context (uninterested day laborers being paid to give the appearance of public support) APPEAR to support the moonbat left on this issue.

Really, this is the same line we hear repeated by them ad nauseam recently: Don’t read the backstory! Look at pictures. Don’t read the bill! Move on it, quickly! Get it done. Anyone who opposes is rich, or white, or Astroturf, or (stereotypical derogatory image). Don’t listen to dissent. Do not tolerate dissent. Crush them!
01:37 PM on 08/11/2009
Oh I forgot, no self respecting conservative would be bussed in as shills of the insurance industry because it is beneath us to ride public transportation
03:00 PM on 08/08/2009
Obama’s Union thugs are shutting down free speech and any opposition to his “vision”. So this is the change, Obama referred to when he said, “We are five days away from FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMING the United States of America”. BTW, send emails to the WH of statements that conflict with his views. I must say, “For the first time in my life I am sad that my children will not experience what a great country American was”. The finest country in the entire world, fundamentally changed, what a sad day. Does anyone see what is happening before your very eyes? Do you even care? Will the “thought police” arrest me for this comment?
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Janetshusb
05:41 PM on 08/08/2009
So exactly how are the Democrats going to go about destroying the US. If you can't give details then I have to assume you are just ranting. And why would they want to do this any more than the Republicans? We are all Americans. We may have slightly different opinions about how to run the country but they really aren't so different. What makes you think the president has the power to change an entire country in four years. He can't even get health insurance reform. C'mon. Be real.
There aren't any 'thought police' you are still in Kansas, Dorothy.
01:50 PM on 08/10/2009
My crystal ball is in the shop, so I can’t tell you how democrats are going to destroy the country. The things that have already happened would have been unbelievable two years ago. I can tell you the things that have been done and are currently being done to undermine America:

The destruction of the free market is reducing the incentive to work.
The destruction of free speech is reducing the ability of Americans to voice dissent.
The destruction of freedom of religion is reducing the ability of Americans to worship as they please.
The growing hostility toward guns and gun owners reduces by ability of Americans to defend themselves from thugs who break into their home and thugs in Washington.

There is a gradual shift in America from personal responsibility and liberty towards statism. We are moving towards an America in which the state controls every aspect of a person’s life. Even today, there are few facets of your life that you may point to and say, “Government doesn’t have their fingers in this at all.” I challenge you to name five things important to you that the government isn’t involved in.

This is not simply a democrat thing, either. Republicans have done much to reduce personal liberty in this country, as well; democrats have simply done more damage than the republicans have, recently.
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KIVPossum
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09:47 AM on 08/09/2009
I'll give you the same thing you conservatives gave us liberals during the Bush administration. If you don't like it, you can leave. Most major airports have daily flights out.
01:08 PM on 08/08/2009
These people are paid by the government to protest. The only paid protestors that are going to show up at townhall meetings are ACORN and Union people. I don't think I need to hear anymore insubstanstiated claims that the senior citizens getting upset are paid by insurance companies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7DC3zqyh6M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdOZZoEQwAA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd8RCpotBwg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npdyLCBWZHM&feature=related

http://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/ACORNs-Muscle-for-Money-does-the-bidding-of-SEIU--50091427.html

So give me a break people......seriously.
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ManhattanMC
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01:43 PM on 08/10/2009
sirith

"The only paid protestors that are going to show up at townhall meetings are ACORN and Union people."

Do you have evidence any of those groups are paying people to attend ?

Didn't think so.
10:09 AM on 08/08/2009
have you reported your neighbor lately for 'fishy' ideas? If not, get busy - there are a lot of potential gulag inmates out there - report them to flagforgestapos@WH.com
11:03 AM on 08/08/2009
Don't worry, I am sure we all have been reported already!
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reyvn77
11:21 AM on 08/09/2009
inflated sense of self-worth much?
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ManhattanMC
My bio is far too large
11:18 PM on 08/09/2009
carebear

No one asked for names-only falsehoods about health reform efforts.

Accuracy please.
01:26 AM on 08/08/2009
What is next " Krystalnacht " ?
01:29 AM on 08/08/2009
I think you saw the start of it when the Union Goons put that street vendor in the hospital for a couple days for selling Teaparty T-shirts... The "fishy" list is probably the beginning of the list of "shopkeepers" for Obama's Obamanacht...
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onenvrnos
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09:51 AM on 08/08/2009
You are both spouting talking points that are gibberish.
10:10 AM on 08/08/2009
funny part is, he wasn't a GOP or even paid by them as the Bammertroops would like you to believe
01:24 AM on 08/08/2009
Obama is starting to act and sound like 1933 Germany.

Enough of name-calling. Let's get to the heart of the matter. Read the bill. Check out the facts. Personally, I don't want the gov to be able to look into my finances and take money willy-nilly (it's in the bill, folks).

Personally, I don't like people who discriminate against people based on age or ability (read/listen to the comments of Rahm's brother, the doctor advisor to Obama).

Check out the facts; quit with the histrionics.

Lastly, as a former Teamster and current member of the NEA and AARP, I REALLY don't understand them. As a union member, our contracts have great healthcare benefits from our employers. Why are they trying to get us to have lesser healthcare by going along with Obama? Are they crazy?
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onenvrnos
Hope for a better world.
09:50 AM on 08/08/2009
Are you crazy? As a Teamster, you have been fortunate indeed to have such excellent health care. But, your vision is myopic. Did you know the MAJORITY or bankruptices are actually from people who HAD health care?

"A recent study by Harvard University researchers found that the average out-of-pocket medical debt for those who filed for bankruptcy was $12,000. The study noted that 68 percent of those who filed for bankruptcy had health insurance. In addition, the study found that 50 percent of all bankruptcy filings were partly the result of medical expenses. Every 30 seconds in the United States someone files for bankruptcy in the aftermath of a serious health problem."

http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml

Go to the post above and visit other objective websites to find out the REAL truth about health care. Our system is broken and needs to be fixed. You are like the congressman who have been perched on their lookout making sure no one else gets what they have. I have read the health care bill, and your statement "Personally, I don't like people who discriminate against people based on age or ability (read/listen to the comments of Rahm's brother, the doctor advisor to Obama)" is completely false and without merit. Be objective and quit hiding behind your veil as one of those perched high on your supposed laurels.
10:13 AM on 08/08/2009
you should have known that the gestapoera was upon you once it was revealed that Bammer was a student of Saul Alinsky - as well as friends of Ayers and Wright - it's their visions that he is attempting to foist on america - and seems to be succeeding - lots of fruitcale airhead support out there!
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onenvrnos
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10:15 AM on 08/08/2009
Are you from Alaska? Are you a relative of Palin's?
12:44 AM on 08/08/2009
This is starting to sound like Hitler's Brown Shirts and Union Busting head bashers.I think both sides shoulld be heard in a civil,orderly fashion. I personally don't like Obama's plan and I abhor his tactics.
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onenvrnos
Hope for a better world.
09:54 AM on 08/08/2009
And we all abhor the right wing fanaticism tactics. I agree that all sides should be heard in a civil, orderly fashion. But, how does that happen when people are yelling and screaming and do not want to listen to reason at all? The town hall meetings are for informational purposes--not for bussed in opposition whose only goal is disruption.
03:37 PM on 08/08/2009
Talk about "talking points".
10:07 AM on 08/08/2009
what these fruitcake lefties are trying to hide is the fact that many of the protesters are dimocraps who do not want Bammer to mess with their health plans. Bammer's brownshirts will be in for a surprise, methinks, when they try the Gestap* tactics to stifle dissent and rational questions
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onenvrnos
Hope for a better world.
10:11 AM on 08/08/2009
"fruitcake lefties" ha ha ha ha ha....

You ARE funny.
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fcsakes
09:26 AM on 08/09/2009
Straight out of plain palin's playbook.
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billobasher
09:59 PM on 08/07/2009
I buy the same drug in Canada for 45 dollars that costs me 200 dollars here in the USA. Yep, that system up there is downright "evil."
10:16 AM on 08/08/2009
I moved to Canada after Bammer came up with his policies to turn the USA into the USSA and then into UF(forfascist)SA - the medical system needs work but they are now bringing in two-tier system which should help
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reyvn77
11:32 AM on 08/09/2009
"I moved to Canada"

LOL.
10:50 PM on 08/09/2009
Good riddance.....that's why the air smells better down here.
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billobasher
09:56 PM on 08/07/2009
Bush and the Republican's had eight years to do something about health care. They never even brought it up. THey would rather give the wealthy tax breaks that they did not need.
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billobasher
09:52 PM on 08/07/2009
According to the far right us union members are not "real American's."
11:05 PM on 08/07/2009
According to the left senior citizens are paid corporate goons.
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soisay
Angry? Scared? Thank a Republican.
11:15 PM on 08/07/2009
People, regardless of age, that come to town hall meetings to hoot, holler, menace others through fist shaking and pounding, standing up and moving around en masse . . . are thugs. Americans take turns to share their opinions about issues, thugs scare, intimidate, and threaten. Let us judge each other by our character, not by the date of our birth.
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mendelcrosses
08:12 AM on 08/08/2009
No.You are wrong.But I personality believe that quite a lot of senior citizens are downright racists. They say it themself that their problem is a black man being president. The Cooperations are just exploiting the racist bias
08:37 PM on 08/07/2009
I always find it interesting that opponents to health care reform argue that it will be the "death to all of us" or "it will restrict our choices" or "medical decisions will be made by bureaucrats".

It is the current unregulated capitalistic private insurance companies who are actually fulfilling their worst nightmare right now. "Death to us all" - private insurance companies are literally killing patients right now by denying lifesaving care like in the case of Cigna's denial of Natalie Sarkisyan's care.

"It will restrict our choices" which is exactly what our private insurers are doing. I have private coverage myself as a medical professional through my hospital who employs me. I'm restricted to a list of doctors I can see and also to only 4 hospitals in the local Tampa Bay area and if I seek medical care outside of this my insurer will put a majority of the financial cost on me so if I want somewhat affordable medical care I'm forced into their restrictive measures.

"Medical decisions will be made by bureaucrats" - in the private insurance market medical decisions aren't made by myself or my doctor but rather by bureaucrats (executives and internal business analysts) from my private insurers when they decide what is covered and what is not.

Healthcare reform would put a stop to all this and I've actually researched for hours on what the best way to achieve this is. Here's my solutions - http://bit.ly/9QLV8
09:53 PM on 08/07/2009
I ask you as a healthcare professional have you looked over the Bill that is being discussed? Do you like it? Have you looked at other types reform out there? I personally like Emanual's plan the best I am just not convinced a VAT could cover it.

I wish more people who work in health care would speak out.
10:39 PM on 08/07/2009
My favorite bill is the Senate bill by the HELP committee.
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06:54 PM on 08/07/2009
I agree. Bring it on. Is there any doubt that violence will erupt. Union thugs will find that the folks that are fired up about Obama and the Democrats trying to ram this down our throats before they get exposed will be there...and they won't back down to union goons. Unions are dinosaurs. They have outlived their usefulness, and now stand for nothing but legalized extortion. I know...I am a former union member and steward.
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Janetshusb
07:24 PM on 08/07/2009
Don't generalize from one example. Just because you had a bad experience doesn't mean the whole concept is rotten. Would you close down the Girl Scouts and call them dinosaurs if one troop cheated on their cookie money?
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Quitcherbichin
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08:55 PM on 08/07/2009
The problem is Janetshusb, that it is not just one bad experience. Probably the worst of the worst at this time are the public employee unions. They have civil service protections that should negate their very existence. They have been holding the government hostage for the last 3 decades. Do the research...I did...why do you think that the Postal Service is going bankrupt?? Take a look a the salaries they pay their letter and rural carriers and clerks.
I will state again...unions are nothing more than legalized extortion. It is amazing to me that public employee unions are able to wield so much clout when they don't even have the right to strike. There are deals made under the table with congress. Money changes hands.
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billobasher
09:54 PM on 08/07/2009
Quitcherbichin,

The "thugs" are not the union people. The thugs are the far right goons sent to their holy war by far right radio hosts who are probably laughing at these sheep when they are off the air.
11:04 PM on 08/07/2009
Senior citizens = far right goons?
07:10 PM on 08/13/2009
I'm no affiliate of ANY organized opposition group, and I plan to attend my Town Hall meetings here in my area. I am a retired Marine Corps Vet. And should any Union goons aka Bundist attempt to impede my 1st Amendment rights, they find out why the 2nd Amendment was and still is important to a true "democracy"!