White House Confirms: Deal With Big Pharma Bars Price Negotiations

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First Posted: 08- 7-09 06:57 PM   |   Updated: 08- 7-09 09:59 PM

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In closed-door negotiations with President Obama and his top aides throughout the spring, Big Pharma offered its support for comprehensive health care reform and pledged to cut $80 billion in costs over the next ten years. Just exactly what Obama promised in return wasn't made public and was the subject of intense debate on Capitol Hill Thursday, as senators wondered aloud if the White House had tied their legislative hands.

Earlier in the week, there were reports that Obama had promised to oppose any congressional attempt to exact further money from the massive pharmaceutical industry, which would include allowing Medicare to negotiate for lower prices or import cheaper drugs from Canada -- two major priorities for congressional Democrats.

In a Thursday meeting with Senate Democrats, some of those present thought the White House backed off that deal. The administration has now stepped in to clear up its position: Congress can vote to do those things -- just not as part of the health-care overhaul legislation.

The White House said on Friday that drug price negotiations did not specifically come up in talks with Big Pharma. Because such negotiations would take the deal past $80 billion, however, they're off limits, as is reimportation of cheaper drugs from Canada.

White House spokesman Reid Cherlin confirmed that despite Thursday's uncertainty the deal outlined in the New York Times still stands.

Of course, as the White House acknowledges, senators are free to push for drug-price negotiations or reimportation, but they may have to do so without administration support and, certainly, in the face of Big Pharma opposition.

Several senators, including Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), pledged to go after PhRMA no matter what the White House said.

Ken Johnson, PhRMA's senior vice president, told the Huffington Post the drug lobby has been in touch with the White House the last few days but that he couldn't talk about the specifics of the deal. "It's been a trying 48 hours," he said.

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He did, though, talk about PhRMA's principal goal of the negotiations that led to the deal. "We made it very clear - and again, I'm not talking about the agreement - but we made it very clear that with respect to health care reform, the line in the sand for us was price control," Johnson said.

The deal only applies to the health care reform bill itself, meaning the White House could back Senate Democratic attempts to push for more savings from drug makers in separate, future legislative attempts, a White House aide said.

The truce over, the two parties will then battle it out. "The only thing I can say is we'll do what we always do. We'll roll up our sleeves and fight them one fight at a time," said Johnson.

For the White House, it's critical to keep the drug lobby either neutral or in its camp, given the muscle that the pharmaceutical industry is able to flex. PhRMA is watching the administration closely to make sure it sticks to its deal.

"I'm going to be as honest as I can be. I'm keeping my eye on the ball... We have made an $80 billion commitment toward improving patient care and we're sticking to it," said Johnson. "Obviously there have been some discussions [in the last few days]. But it's important for everyone to take a step back and a deep breath right now. All of these reports as to what's in the agreement and what's not detract from the more important goal of making sure every American has access to high quality and affordable health care and services."

As long as the drug makers and the White House are allies, PhRMA would rather not focus on the specifics of the deal. "Every day we spend talking about he-said/she-said is a day we lose talking about why health care reform is good for America," said Johnson. "We are doing everything we can to make certain comprehensive reform is enacted this year. We're on board."

This story was updated to reflect the fact that, according to the White House, drug price negotiations did not specifically come up in negotiations, but are ruled out because they would take the deal past $80 billion.

In closed-door negotiations with President Obama and his top aides throughout the spring, Big Pharma offered its support for comprehensive health care reform and pledged to cut $80 billion in costs ov...
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If Obama had played this issue hard, transparent, and principled and lost, I would be angry at the opponents and still a strong supporter of Obama's. But that hasn't been the case. If he magically pulls a real reform out of a hat I will have to admit he's just smarter than me. But if he doesn't, then I'm going to have to admit he simply tricked me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 08/13/2009

Obama needs to read the recent article on why people who voted for him are wondering if they got punked. His message was change and looking out for masses of PEOPLE instead of the corporations and the few people who benefit from the corporate pillaging. We wanted transparency. Deal with drug companies if necessary to get health care done? I'm not happy, but can see that being a necessity. Do it in a backroom deal? Absolutely unacceptable. He's let Washington insiders convince him the only way to get things done is the old way. That may be true, but if he isn't seen as at least trying to change it, his career is over. I donated to him and worked the phones for him. I will actively work against him if this is a sign of how he operates. He's smart enough to know that it isn't just what you do but how you do it. He figured out what the people wanted to win their votes, so he's got to know that he's going against what we want now that he's there. If we get individual mandates that just line corporate coffers at even more direct taxpayer expense, there will be hell to pay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 08/11/2009

you'd think that proglodytes who professed a desire for "change" would be raging at the blatant volte face of OPhRMA on Medicare Negotiated Drug Costs

but apparently, no outrage is too much for these fake "progressives" to swallow whole, if served up by the "proper" party

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 08/11/2009

I am sorry to say this, but if you Democratic strategists are reading this right now, Obama just might have sunk his administration. This is the kind of think that will infuriate even middle of the road Democrats, and I for one sadly will be leaving the party and going INDEPENDENT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 08/10/2009
- miksmaster I'm a Fan of miksmaster 62 fans permalink
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I have to admit it, INDEPENDENT is looking pretty good right about now...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 08/10/2009
- NO-LIE I'm a Fan of NO-LIE 24 fans permalink
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DONT WORRY.... obamas speech writers are hard at work probably as we post! His speech will be televised probably in primetime, again! he will use strong words like: "LET ME BE CLEAR" ,
"MAKE NO MISTAKE", and "MOVING FORWARD" . He will give you reasons why he sold out to big pharma> His pesuasiveness and charisma will be at full throttle. The speech will be so grand that
Billy Mays the pitchman would be proud (R.I.P.) And then many will say: "that is why he did it, it was for us" Others that have woken up from the anethesia will not be fooled! Once again his words contradict his actions. And this cycle will be repetative.
People do not be fooled any longer, so much for transparency and accountability!
I think "YES WE CAN" has become "NO WE DIDNT"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 08/11/2009

This does it for me. I am changing my party from Democrat to Independent.
Send a message and do the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 08/10/2009
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 22 fans permalink

Maybe the Pharma could save 80 billion by ordering from Canada
or China and then sell the medicine to us.
This would keep the trade thing going with them.

This would show how much the Pharma's are overcharging now
for prescriptions. If they can give up 80 million, then it must be plenty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 08/10/2009
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Well Huff., time to do some investigative reporting. If anyone, anyone at all but the American people stand to benefit financially from this deal. Then, root them out, expose them and even if it is my beloved POTUS, take him/them all down!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 08/10/2009

The White House said on Friday that drug price negotiations did not specifically come up in talks with Big Pharma. Because such negotiations would take the deal past $80 billion, however, they're off limits, as is reimportation of cheaper drugs from Canada.

That is crap. Did someone say third party!?! I'm all for it! I cannot, in good conscience, become a Republican, and the Democrats (of which I am a party member) have shot out so far into liberal orbit it is scary. I am having doubts about Obama's agenda. I also think part of Obama's agenda is to promote Latinos at the further expense and the detriment of American citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 08/10/2009
- blimie I'm a Fan of blimie 14 fans permalink

Kill that bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 08/09/2009
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I know that deals need to be made in politics. That is the nature of the beast; this is bullshit though. If Big Pharma already stands to make millions more from universal coverage, why do we need their assurances for anything? Letting Medicare negotiate prices and allowing the import from Canada should be something that is the goal of both parties. It would be allowing the tenements of free trade and capitalism take hold through a natural price control. Why do both parties feel the need to lick the boots of Big Pharma?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 08/09/2009

Excellent point, doesn't the plan Obama has put forth rest on the operative that competition would drive prices down, but Canadian drugs will be off limits? Too many things don't add up in this situation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 08/10/2009
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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Corporations now tell our Government what to do. This is fascism, nothing less. Thanks, Obama. You fooled me into voting for this hypocrisy. Not again. And you won't even investigate the war crimes that went on. NO spine, whatsoever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 08/09/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 149 fans permalink

Agreed to the first part but I think he has plenty of spine. He's just not our guy. He's working for the other side and couldn't have made that any plainer than he has over the last 7 months.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 08/09/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 318 fans permalink
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The fact that government is even doing health care is fasc|sm... or corporatism. The corporations would be doing their own thing if government wasn't there wanting to get in bed with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 08/09/2009

The Corporations ARE doing their own thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 08/09/2009

How could anyone expect anything different from a Democrat or a Republican. They're both in bed with corporations, they both have sold out theis country.

How many Dems voted for the Patriot Act. How many Dems have introduced bills calling for war crimes investigations, repeal of the Patriot Act, and how many supported any such bill.

Anyone who voted for Obama and expected anything but back-pedaling and weasel words was fooling themselves.

Vote third party.

Vote against the incumbent.

It's the only way things will change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 08/10/2009
- Saidas I'm a Fan of Saidas 8 fans permalink

If a Third Party candidate had stood even the remotest chance of winning I would have voted for one. I like a lot of Ron Paul's views, but the guy has had a triple charisma bypass and had no financial backing comparatively speaking. My vote for Obama wasn't so much for him as it was against a continued Republican regime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 08/10/2009

Agreed, I won't be fooled again. We need a strong party of people "in the center" to speak up and drown out the ultra liberals and idiots like Limbaugh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 08/10/2009
- camipco I'm a Fan of camipco 11 fans permalink
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Price control and price negotiations are very different. Price control is when the government declares by law that pharmacuetical companies are not allowed to charge over a certain price. There's a lot of problems caused by price controls and most economists (including left wing economists) think that they are a bad idea.

Price negotiations, on the other hand, are just natural in capitalism. Walmart gets its drugs cheaper because it buys a huge quantity and therefore negotiates a better price from its suppliers. So does medicare. It's exactly the same reason that a twelve pack of soda costs less than a single can, just a normal consequence of a healthy marketplace. In fact, banning the government from price negotiation in the market is itself a form of price control - it's a price floor (as oppose to a price ceiling) and comes with all sorts of problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 08/09/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 149 fans permalink

And we get neither. Which makes them pretty much the same as far as health care reform is concerned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 08/09/2009
- isis I'm a Fan of isis 17 fans permalink
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I'm impressed that Obama can get these big thugs to negotiate anything. The last time we tried for health care reform they shut it right down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 08/09/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 149 fans permalink

Yes, he just "negotiated" them into accepting a pay raise.

What a clever clever fellow!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 08/09/2009
- NO-LIE I'm a Fan of NO-LIE 24 fans permalink
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bAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 08/11/2009
- mtnyogini I'm a Fan of mtnyogini 3 fans permalink

It is clear to me that our president needs some allies in his effort to help us. Looks like he found one. I, for one, am willing to withold judgment and see what comes of this. At this point, I would appreciate any help I can get with health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 08/09/2009
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I agree. Pharma provides new research and development while insurers don't bring much to the table for the consumer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 08/09/2009



Their research is subsidized by U.S. taxpayers. How much more $$$ do they need?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 08/09/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 149 fans permalink

Well, I suppose it's an interesting twist on "transparency" when Obama will tell us HOW MUCH he sold us out for but won't tell us WHAT he sold.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 08/09/2009


Their research is subsidized by U.S. taxpayers. And they still want more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 08/09/2009

Why...His SOUL, of course..,.& our hopes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 08/09/2009
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