GM To Sell Cars On eBay Starting This Week

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First Posted: 08-10-09 07:51 AM   |   Updated: 08-10-09 03:04 PM

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SAN FRANCISCO -- General Motors and eBay Inc. are expected to announce Monday that hundreds of the auto maker's California dealers will let consumers haggle over the prices of new cars and trucks through the online marketplace, as part of a previously disclosed trial.

bout 225 of California's 250 GM dealers are set to take part in the program, which will begin on Tuesday. They will be selling Buick, Chevrolet, GMC and Pontiac vehicles on cobranded Web sites through eBay's online auto marketplace, eBay Motors, until Sept. 8. The cars will also be searchable through eBay Motors and eBay's main site.

The trial is part of Detroit-based GM's turnaround plan, making more official a practice some of its dealers had already participated in on their own. It expands an existing partnership covering GM certified used vehicles sold through eBay.

It also marks a shift for San Jose, Calif.-based eBay, since most of the vehicles sold on eBay Motors -- a site that sells various types of vehicles and auto parts -- have traditionally been used.

Starting Tuesday, eBay visitors will be able to visit Web pages like gm.ebay.com and chevy.ebay.com, where they can browse new 2008 and 2009 vehicles, ask dealers questions and figure out financing.

The cobranded sites will also include a Web tool currently on eBay Motors that helps shoppers determine if they're qualified to trade in their old car for money toward a new one under the government's just-refilled "cash-for-clunkers" stimulus program.

Car buyers will be able to choose between the two standard options currently offered on eBay Motors: Negotiating a price with a dealer through the site or purchasing right then at a fixed price. Cars will be picked up at the dealerships.

EBay Motors Vice President Rob Chesney said the companies decided to run the trial in California because there are many tech-savvy consumers there. EBay users who live outside California can contact dealers to see if they're willing to sell and ship vehicles to them, he said.

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The test comes a month after GM made an unusually quick exit from bankruptcy protection with ambitions of becoming profitable and building cars people are eager to buy. Once the world's largest and most powerful automaker, new GM is now leaner, cleansed of massive debt and burdensome contracts that would have sunk it without additional federal loan.

GM CEO Fritz Henderson said in July that the company was working on an experiment that would let eBay users in California bid on vehicles or buy them at a fixed price. Dealers were to distribute the cars. At the time, no deal had been completed, though.

Mark LaNeve, GM's vice president of U.S. sales, believes that getting the auto maker directly involved in new online sales will give customers a larger sense of security about buying a car on the Web. Currently, many consumers research new cars online, but most still go down to a dealer to make the actual purchase.

He's hoping it generates more interest in GM vehicles in California -- a market he said the company needs to improve in.

For eBay, the program fits in with its strategy of growing its market for goods that are still new but not necessarily the latest models. It's also a chance to get more people interested in making new, large purchases on a site whose past is steeped in the sale of hard-to-find collectibles. The sale of used cars on eBay is already proof that consumers are getting more and more comfortable buying higher-priced items online, Chesney said.

"New cars are like the next frontier of that," he said.

The companies would not give financial details of the deal, but GM spokesman John McDonald said it is an arrangement that they think will be profitable for both firms.

If the companies feel the trial is successful, they want to expand it across the country. Lorrie Norrington, president of eBay marketplaces, said eBay may eventually try doing the same thing with other auto makers, too.

Inder Dosanjh, a Dublin, Calif.-based dealer who owns four GM dealerships and currently sells used cars on eBay, said the program shows GM is trying to step outside the box and find new ways to sell cars. He plans to list all his new inventory on eBay this week.

"I think they should have done this a long time ago," he said.

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GM's next move will be a giveaway program, come in and we give you a car with the promise you will not bring it back...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 08/11/2009
- veritas2u I'm a Fan of veritas2u 6 fans permalink
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Selling cars on eBay is a great idea. Do your homework, rent one to test drive it, then place a bid. No need to waste your time with salesmen. Works for me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 08/11/2009


The disconnect between the problems facing main street and Washington keep widening. For the past 6 month's we're nothing but talk of regulation, but zero action. What a joke.

good articles... http://www.iamned.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 08/11/2009
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Great idea, but do you really want to buy Chevy - online or instore?

If they were smart, they would have started fresh. Get rid of all dealers and sell everything online. Have someone bring a car by to test drive, deliver your new car or pickup/deliver your car for service. Yes, you still need some kind of service centers, but you can cut out dealers, managers, salespeople, service writers, finance departments, all the people you hate - each who get a cut. Then you could drop the price 25% and maybe even sell some Chevy Volts - at 30K instead of 40K..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 08/11/2009
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Sure, put hundreds of thousands of people out of work so you can save a couple of hundred bucks every decade or so.

Seems like a great plan you got there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 08/11/2009
- smchp I'm a Fan of smchp 75 fans permalink
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I stopped selling stuff on eBay after they kept hiking up their fees to the point it just wasn't worth it anymore. Unless they negotiated special rates with GM, they will have to pass those costs on to the consumer which are significant when your talking 10's of thousands of dollars for a new car.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 08/10/2009
- Free2Speak I'm a Fan of Free2Speak 7 fans permalink
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They're just putting a different color lipstick on this pig.The exorbant salaries and golden parachutes to executives and the union policy of letting less trained senior employees bump well trained junior employees over the objection of department supervisors will keep GM on a downward spiral.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 08/10/2009
- dteg I'm a Fan of dteg 25 fans permalink
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How long before nationwide. I wish I could participate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 08/10/2009

as they would call it lipstick on a pig....

marketing tricks and techniques can only go so far....

if the car is a pile of s.... , still will not sell..

where are all the concept cars they always show in the detroit car shows ???

any of them can make it to the consumer ??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 08/10/2009

but you can always bring down overhead costs mister !!

get rid of dealerships eventually and just sell cars direct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 08/10/2009
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Not a bad idea. Now if only GM would make an affordable car that didn't feel like you were driving a tank or come from a product line that is has been so uncool for the last 10 years that it would be downright embarrassing to buy one (like the Impala, the Camaro or the Cavalier), that I would want to buy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 08/10/2009
- iplaw I'm a Fan of iplaw 28 fans permalink

It has been apparent since the 1970s that GM has 2 primary weaknesses. They started using PHDs to design their cars instead of real car enthusiasts or mechanics and they had a huge amount of dead weight (unions, contracts, pensions, entrenched execs, etc).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 08/10/2009
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Chevy hasnt made a Cavalier for years. The car that replaced it is a Cobalt and even that car is scheduled to be replaced with a new model next year.

The 2010 Camaro is the hottest car in America right now.

You obviously have not been into a Chevy dealership in at least ten years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 08/11/2009
- jalowe1957 I'm a Fan of jalowe1957 40 fans permalink
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eBay, it rhymes with "laid."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 08/10/2009
- learntofly I'm a Fan of learntofly 224 fans permalink
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Doesn't sound like a great marketing position. It will look like the company is being auctioned off little by little because people would not buy these big ticket items if they saw it in person. The only winner in this looks like Ebay stockholders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 08/10/2009
- iplaw I'm a Fan of iplaw 28 fans permalink

And consumers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 08/10/2009
- DRaymond I'm a Fan of DRaymond 65 fans permalink
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The way in which we buy cars is more related to the way your great-grea­t-grandfat­her bought a horse than how most industrial products are made today. Currently huge quantities of capital and land are used just so the dealer can have a 'stable' of 'horses' for you to look at.

In Japan for example either you go to a store where they may have a few models on display or you can have a salesperson come to your home. You order the model, colors, options, etc from a book on an order form, arrange financing, etc. and the vehicle is delivered to your door a few days later. Germany has a similar system except you can pick up the car at the factory (where they have elaborate welcome centers for new car buyers.

By state law dealers have to be the one that sets the price and concludes the sale, but that can be gotten around. You could go to the company's web site to come up with a configurator that would allow you to build the order. It could then pass you to the dealer's web site with a reference to the configuration number. The dealer could complete the sale on their web site and the car would be built (or finished) and sent to the dealer within a couple of weeks. The difference is that there would be hundreds of dollars in savings in inventory storage and capitalization.

The ebay thing, by comparison, is a patch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 08/10/2009
- Artos I'm a Fan of Artos 82 fans permalink

You are right, they do things very efficiently in Germany and Japan, but remember too that they also have lower birth rates than we do and they also have higher suicide rates do to lack of job prospects for the young. perhaps at some point they will get to a zero population level and zero purchasing level and all will be right in the world. How rosy a picture you have painted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 08/10/2009

better sell the GM (Government Made) cars with no reserve

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 08/10/2009
- GerryS I'm a Fan of GerryS 39 fans permalink
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I would not buy a new GM car from the salvation army, much less ebay-------------

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 08/10/2009

This is a gimmick. If I'm ever going to buy an American car again, it better look good with low maintenance costs - buying it on Ebay does not solve those problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 08/10/2009
- steveRB I'm a Fan of steveRB 4 fans permalink

and this plan also doesn't make it easy to lose a few more inches off your gut and fix the national debt. but it may make the process of purchasing a new car more convenient.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 08/10/2009
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