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PhRMA Walks Back Claim Of White House Deal

First Posted: 09/10/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:50 PM ET

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In yet another in a series of evolving statements and backtracks, an official with the country's major pharmaceutical lobby said on Monday that it never struck a "quote, unquote secret deal with the White House" that would have prohibited the government from negotiating lower drug prices for Medicare.

"It was never brought up at the meeting," said Ken Johnson the senior vice president for the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, just days after his boss told the New York Times that the White House's commitment to not support price controls was, as far as he was concerned, "a done deal."

Johnson was referencing reports that the White House had agreed to not allow the government to use its purchasing power to lower drug prices in exchange for $80 billion in promised cost savings from Big Pharma over the course of ten years. The White House, on Monday, denied that such a deal was ever discussed.

All of which didn't mean that an arrangement of sorts wasn't implicit in separate discussions. Johnson told the Huffington Post that during negotiations with the Senate Finance Committee PhRMA had made it crystal clear that there were certain provisions it would never support.

"In the beginning, when God created earth, we said we will help pass comprehensive health care reform but we cannot support price controls," he said.

Johnson said that PhRMA negotiated around this understanding with the Senate Finance Committee and its chairman, Sen. Max Baucus, (D-Mont.) and that the White House "blessed" that policy agreement. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs has also said the administration supported the deal.

"As our contribution to health care reform, we agreed to reduce costs by $80 billion," Johnson concluded.

But what kind of arrangement was made between Finance and PhRMA remains vague. The White House has referred reporters to the statement on the Committee's website. But that statement, issued on June 20, 2009, includes no information beyond the $80 billion promised by PhRMA.

On June 22, the President hailed the "deal" as a win-win-win for the pharmaceutical company, American public and the government. "Drug and insurance companies stand to benefit when tens of millions more Americans have coverage," he said. "So we're asking them, in exchange, to make essential concessions to reform the system and help reduce costs. It's only fair."

But industry observers were already raising red flags, predicting that this was an attempt by PhRMA to head off more costly legislation down the road.

"Our initial take is that this is a win for the industry because it appears to short-circuit the prospect of direct government price negotiation," read an analysis by Leerink Swann and Company, a health care equity research company.

Last week, the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times both reported that Leerink Swann's prediction was correct - the White House had "embraced" a package that would limit the government's ability to negotiate lower drug prices. In a subsequent piece by the Huffington Post, administration officials said that any measures that would pursue cuts to prescription drug prices should be considered outside the health-care overhaul legislation.

In the end, both Johnson and the White House may be trying to draw a distinction without a difference. Both PhRMA and the administration are on record saying that $80 billion worth in concessions is an appropriate amount. "We feel comfortable with the amount of money that has been talked about at this point," Gibbs said in response to a question from the Huffington Post last week.

PhRMA is on record saying it would oppose health care legislation that contained "price controls." The White House, meanwhile, said on Monday that it was committed not to include one measure that could achieve those controls: rebates which would have bridged the prescription drug prices between Medicaid and Medicare.

The questions that still need to be answered are: Will PhRMA renege on its $80 billion pledge if Congress passes health care reform that allows the government to negotiate for lower drug prices? And will it abandon its pledge to run $150 million worth of television ads in favor of the president's agenda if it believes price controls are still on the table?

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force fed up
I serve no party that serves to divide.
06:04 PM on 08/11/2009
This story just proves that unless journalists were actually present during any of these meetings, any of the hearsay that is repeated on the MSM is pure BS.
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07:08 PM on 08/13/2009
I heard Roger Simon (from Politico/n ) say today on Hardball (with Lawrence O'Donnell), we're at a time in our lives where every political reporter is doing theater review. And this is one time I have to agree.

Reporters make drama to get eye-ball's on their blog, and this is what this blog is. They even fake the headline; what does that tell you.
03:41 PM on 08/11/2009
To negotiate is not the same as to control, control is one side dictates. That is why I understand the Pharma industry is dictating to the government. To negotiate between two parties is to compromise and agree. Something wrong with my understanding?
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Kassandra
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01:06 PM on 08/11/2009
Will we have to completely tear down our corporate government to get it back to a real Democracy? We sure don't have that now. We are one step away from a corporate theocratic war state.
What will it take? People starving in the streets? Will the America people have to become "insurgents"? or will we all surrender to corporate fascism?

This government is not working and I certainly don't trust the people we have up there now to stand and be true to the Constitution let alone amend it to get the corporate "personhood" with equal rights, and actually more than the citizen does...

I'm really sorry for these people who are mugging the town halls against their own best interests and listening to their hateful demagogues to lay blame somewhere . I really feel that if this isn't a strong healthcare bill, America will never recover, and the banks will own the rest of our houses and continue to destroy the planet for their profits. And all this while we face down climate change. GEEZ LOUEEZZ

It doesn't look good right now at all. Who WAS the genius who gave corporations the same rights as the American citizen? Reagan? Clinton or all of them since Reagan? Who cares, here we are.
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Kassandra
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01:08 PM on 08/11/2009
I meant get the "corporate personhood OUT of our government and laws." sorry
02:37 PM on 08/11/2009
Thom Hartmann's book, "Unequal Protection, The Rise of Corporate Dominance and the Theft of Human Rights" talks about all the above issues and will answer questions.
12:39 PM on 08/11/2009
You mean the previous article saying that President Obama made this deal with big Pharma was a L I E? How shocking. And all those people who got hysterical about how our President was selling us out threw their hissy fits for nothing.
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CTtransplant
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow
12:14 PM on 08/11/2009
Sign this petition to have paid health care removed from our representatives in Congress until such time as they reform health care - to include a strong public option - for 'we the people' who they are supposed to represent. Then spread the word to anyone and everyone you know!

http://www.petitiononline.com/PubOp676/petition.html
03:58 PM on 08/11/2009
Keep at it CT! I've signed it and would like to sign it several more times!
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CTtransplant
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow
07:01 PM on 08/11/2009
Thanks! Appreciate it! We've got to keep spreading the word! Don't know about you, but I am growing tired of the partisan BS...let's just get it done already!!!
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gladys46
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11:35 AM on 08/11/2009
Breaking .. there's a man with a g un strapped to his leg in Portsmouth, NH, where President Obama is expected to speak at a town hall ! Authorities say he has a legal permit, but they are keeping an eye on him! Amazing !
11:50 AM on 08/11/2009
Legal permit or not, the Secret Service should--probably will--take the gun. They absolutely have no business being in that crowd with a gun. Everybody needs to be searched. Some of the most "conservative" (and anti Obama) people I know have gun permits and have them stashed everywhere--in their vehicles, on their person, poised for use at different posts in their homes.

When Obama was running for President, I waited in line to see him; I had a tiny pocket knife at the bottom of my every-day-with me-all-the-time stuff. I'd forgotten all about it or would have taken it out, but those guards very expertly found it immediately and removed it. This with the hoards of people coming in. I gained new respect for those guards who do the searching.
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gladys46
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11:52 AM on 08/11/2009
Reportedly, this man has not been removed from the line of people waiting to get into that town hall ! This g un is in plain sight !!!

Purely intimidating ! ReThug way of life !!!
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Suzanne525
FourMore, WooHoo!!
12:09 PM on 08/11/2009
Where are you getting this information? A local station?

I can't believe Secret Service will let him anywhere near where the Pres. will be.
11:23 AM on 08/11/2009
Pfizer is spending millions advertising against health care.

It's clear Pfizer execs will make billions more if they can prevent health care reform.
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gladys46
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11:20 AM on 08/11/2009
As suggested by our poster "Chapmanp2" ... let's start a "burn your medicare/caid card" campaign ! Let's witness how many rethugs agree !!!

Great idea Chappy !!!
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december30
11:16 AM on 08/11/2009
Again, some of you let others think and speak for you and you believe all the bs that is out there. I feel sorry for you. I will continue to support President Obama and forget what is being said. I refuse to let anyone speak and think for me. Anyone can lie. The media focus on lies for ratings. The only media on the the issuess is Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow maybe you should try listening to them. I find Chris Matthews and Ed Shultz somewhat misinformed at times. I find HP is getting into misinformed, inaccurate reporting.

I am sure HP will not post this comment but at least they are reading it.
11:18 AM on 08/11/2009
i'm sure if he sat in front of you himself and said "I'm sorry. I am a liar." You would say, oh thats ok, i don't believe you.
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11:23 AM on 08/11/2009
Who are you talking to? I haven't seen much here about not supporting President Obama. I support him all the way. It seems PhRMA and the insurance industry are in control here. I agree with you 100%.
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Malron Jett
11:14 AM on 08/11/2009
Damn, this is a stupid question:

The questions that still need to be answered are: Will PhRMA renege on its $80 billion pledge if Congress passes health care reform that allows the government to negotiate for lower drug prices?

I have a better question: Why would PhRMA's reneging on their $80 billion pledge even matter if Congress passes health care reform that allows the government to negotiate for EVEN LOWER drug prices?
11:11 AM on 08/11/2009
Money is God, and what people will do in service to their God. They will even forsake the God they claim cares for the poor for the dollar. All these folks doing these disruptions and lies are all christian and are disobeying their own leader in their conduct.

What good is religion if it doesn't turn a greedy man into a generous man.
11:20 AM on 08/11/2009
thats a ridiculous statement... yeah - every bad person is a Christian...
11:27 AM on 08/11/2009
You miss the point entirely. I bet if you asked everyone of the Bankers and Traders who ruined the economy. The Health Insurances execs and Pharma Execs and all those birthers and all those town hall disruptors, they will all say that they are christian.

But what is the evidence that they are. They are certainly not following in the footsteps of Jesus, which is what a christian is suppose to do. The religious guys on the radio, lie and slander and yell and in those things they are actually going against the tenets of their supposed beliefs.

A Christians is supposed to be like Christ, where is the evidence?
11:10 AM on 08/11/2009
STILL, STILL not seeing the issue here. Yes it sucks, but what is he supposed to do, in one fell swoop cut the legs off big pharma AND the health insurance leeches? Let's take this a step at a time, folks, we're dealing with a vastly corrupt system with a president who is still, deep down, a rich man Democrat. Let's get what we can and push for more.
11:08 AM on 08/11/2009
Note to big pharma - negotiated pricing IS price control, which you claim to be against. They are just arguing their own self-interest, normal sure, but absolutely they are trying to protect an unjustified subsidy via a ban on competitive pricing for prescription drugs purchased by the govt.
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lilalove
11:03 AM on 08/11/2009
Billy Tauzin played the media for a fool. . Billy Taizin claimed that Big Pharma wanted to force Obama into a public statement that he agreed to block congress from price negotiations. The Whitehouse never, never said they agreed to block congress. But HuffPost kept running the story like they did. So the Whitehouse came out strong and clear that they NEVER agreed to block congress. Then Big Pharma came out and said that no deal about blocking congress from price negotiations legislation was made. Which if Mr. Tauzin was telling the truth would be a profoundly stupid thing to claim if their whole goal was to force Obama's hand into admitting it.

Sam is the only reporter on here who got to the bottom of it.
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gladys46
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10:48 AM on 08/11/2009
At this PA town hall mgt., Specter is pandering to b/s ! But, that's expected since he is at a very red, Mc/Pa lin area in PA !!! I'm truly leaning towards supporting Sestak, if he runs again Arlen !
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gladys46
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10:49 AM on 08/11/2009
"against"
11:05 AM on 08/11/2009
Sestak has already announced, & he needs our support!!!