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PHILIP ELLIOTT | 08/11/09 09:13 PM | AP

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President Barack Obama smiles as he enters to speak at a town hall meeting about health care reform, Tuesday, Aug. 11, 2009, at Portsmouth High School in Portsmouth, N.H. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

PORTSMOUTH, N.H. — Braced for a fight he never got, President Barack Obama went on the offensive in support of his health care plan Tuesday, urging a town hall audience not to listen to those who seek to "scare and mislead the American people."

"For all the scare tactics out there, what is truly scary is if we do nothing," Obama told a friendly crowd of about 1,800 in a high school auditorium and a nationwide audience watching on cable television.

The White House had been ready for an unruly reception from opponents of overhauling health care. There was no sign of that, perhaps because of the makeup of the day's crowd or out of traditional deference for the president.

Obama's push came amid a string of disruptive health care town halls nationwide that have overshadowed his message and threatened to derail support in Congress. Indeed, Republican-turned-Democratic Sen. Arlen Specter faced hostile questions, taunts and jeers earlier Tuesday as he tried to explain his positions at a town hall in Lebanon, Pa. Voter fears of a government takeover of health care were on stark display.

Some lawmakers, holding forums during Congress' August recess, have gone so far as to replace public forums with teleconferences or step up security to keep protesters at bay.

But the Democratic president faced no outbursts.

The encounter was so friendly, in fact, that by the end Obama was even asking for skeptical questioners to come forward – to no avail.

He told his audience reassuringly, "For all the chatter and the yelling and the shouting and the noise, what you need to know is this ... if you do have health insurance, we will make sure that no insurance company or government bureaucrat gets between you and the care you need."

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Retooling his message amid sliding support, he addressed some of his remarks to a vital and skeptical audience: the tens of millions of people who already have health insurance and are generally satisfied with the care they get.

He said the overhaul is essential to them, too, contending it is the way to keep control in their hands. Obama said while government bureaucrats should not meddle with people's care, bureaucrats at insurance companies should not, either.

The president accused critics of creating "boogeymen."

"Spread the facts. Let's get this done," Obama implored the crowd.

The tone was set as soon as Obama arrived. He came in to applause and told one person who shouted support, "I love you back."

One man identified himself as a Republican and said, "I don't know what I'm doing here." The Democratic president said he was happy to have him in attendance.

Toward the end of the session, Obama went so far as to ask people to give him skeptical questions. The best he got were queries about why he doesn't chastise Congress more and where the nation would find the additional doctors and nurses it needs.

Heading toward a pivotal fall debate before congressional action, Obama is scrambling to get lawmakers and the public behind what would be the most ambitious and costly changes to the health care system in decades.

He reiterated his determination that the plan be paid for without adding to the nation's soaring deficit.

He took on what he described as erroneous claims that have risen as the debate in Washington and the nation has developed.

He singled out the charge that the Democratic health care legislation would create "death panels" to deny care to frail seniors. Former Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin has said the Democrats' legislation includes "death panels" that could deny care.

Obama declared that a provision that he said had caused the uproar would only authorize Medicare to pay doctors for counseling patients about end-of-life care, living wills, hospice care and other issues, if the patients wanted it. It would not "basically pull the plug on grandma because we decided that it's too expensive to let her live anymore," as Obama put it.

The people Obama called on for questions asked him largely about their personal medical concerns and how any new law would affect them. "We're not talking about cutting Medicare benefits," he said, trying to reassure one questioner.

Obama sought to dispel talk that his ultimate goal is a single-payer federal health care system, like that in countries such as Canada.

He also disputed the notion that adding a government-run insurance plan into a menu of options from which people could pick would drive private insurers out of business, in effect making the system single-payer by default.

As long as they have a good product and the government plan has to sustain itself through premiums and other non-tax revenue, private insurers should be able to compete with the government plan, Obama said.

"They do it all the time," he said. "UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. ... It's the Post Office that's always having problems."

In its first TV ads of this year's health care fight, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce will begin airing 30-second spots in about 20 states Wednesday criticizing the Democratic proposal to offer optional government health coverage, according to R. Bruce Josten, executive vice president of the nation's largest business group.

The multimillion-dollar buy would be one of the largest so far critical of Obama's effort, in a year in which opponents have been heavily outspent by supporters of the president's plan. The spots, showing a balloon being inflated until it bursts, says, "Big tax increases, huge deficits, expanded government control of health care. Call Congress."

Seventy percent of the tickets were distributed by an online lottery that made computerized random choices on Saturday, and conservative activists and Obama opponents secured some tickets. But though they tried to be picked for questions by standing and wildly waving their arms, they also seemed mindful of what New Hampshire Republican Party Chairman John H. Sununu had said before the town hall: He hoped Obama would get a respectful reception.

There were protests outside. About 200 opponents of his plan lined up on the road to the event site across from about as many supporters.

PORTSMOUTH, N.H. — Braced for a fight he never got, President Barack Obama went on the offensive in support of his health care plan Tuesday, urging a town hall audience not to listen to those wh...
PORTSMOUTH, N.H. — Braced for a fight he never got, President Barack Obama went on the offensive in support of his health care plan Tuesday, urging a town hall audience not to listen to those wh...
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- NWRICK I'm a Fan of NWRICK 260 fans permalink
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MaxwellEdison I'm a Fan of MaxwellEdison I'm a fan of this user permalink
Taking care of the least of us is an individual choice, it is not something mandated by a government.
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OMG!!
Humanity mandates!!!!
Your callousness is stunning!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 08/22/2009
- marley22 I'm a Fan of marley22 11 fans permalink
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"The encounter was so friendly, in fact, that by the end Obama was even asking for skeptical questioners to come forward – to no avail."

He deserves an Emmy nomination for acting surprised.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 08/13/2009
- Garybot I'm a Fan of Garybot 47 fans permalink
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Not really - ly ing seems to be who he is

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 08/13/2009
- ZenBastard I'm a Fan of ZenBastard 50 fans permalink
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"Lying seems to be who he is."

That comment doesn't make sense. If you'd said "lying is what he does" that would have at least been grammatically correct, if not blatantly false. It does remind me of a quote by another POTUS though.

"Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 08/14/2009
- kiwiman122 I'm a Fan of kiwiman122 7 fans permalink

If our Health care is so bad, why do most international people choose the U.S for the treatment of serious procedures? I have a friend from Panama that had a tumor taking over his entire thigh. His only option in Panama(which according the U.N, has better healthcare then the United States) was to amputate his leg.

Instead, through the help of a "PRIVATE charity" and the United States he received chemotherapy and surgery that eliminated the tumor. (and cancer)

Why are so many people in favor of medical practices that are equivalent to methods used in the Civil War?
I know that is far-fetched....but if anyone actually researched non-partisan records on other countries healthcare; they would be astonished.

I'm going to end this but one example I would like to use is France's health care.

In France most people treating patients in hospitals are students. If you are from another country that is a member of the European union or any other country you have to be within the boarders for 30 days to even see a doctor/get treatment from a trainee.

Obama says we need a system like this. Why does everyone else?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 08/13/2009
- CynAnne I'm a Fan of CynAnne 141 fans permalink
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Wowsers..! Lawrence O'Donnell Jr. took Katy Abrams (Ms. "I don't want America becoming socialist..") apart, piece by piece, in his interview with her..I almost felt sorry for her. Stuttering, stammering and woefully, laughably uninformed about the very things she was railing against: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/ns/msnbc_tv-hardball_with_chris_matthews#32393616 ..kudos and well done, Lawrence..! ;) ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 08/13/2009
- hapiday I'm a Fan of hapiday 94 fans permalink
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((((HELLO)))) it is a health care reform town hall meeting. The president is trying to explain the program. What were people expecting an angry mob to come in and call the president all kinds of nasty names? Some of the people present were supporters. I don't understand what they mean by plant. The town hall the president had was an example of how a town hall meeting is suppose to be. I don't blame the president for screening before allowing every yahoo outside to come in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 08/12/2009
- Garybot I'm a Fan of Garybot 47 fans permalink
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They told the press beforehand that they had no controls on who got into the hall.

The press were waiting for some fireworks involving the prez

Fox took him off about 3 minutes in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 08/13/2009
- topkatnc I'm a Fan of topkatnc 29 fans permalink
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I reacted sad yersterday , when I saw a picture of a woman holding a sign with President Obama 's picture on it......And had painted a mustache on him like Hitler wore....I was ashambed of Americans yesterday.....And that is not a good feeling...Don't they care that the whole world is watching them ?...I am sorry , but I was ashambed of them......not a good feeling...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 08/12/2009
- Garybot I'm a Fan of Garybot 47 fans permalink
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Yes - so much like the "Bush as Hitler" signs the left carried a couple of years ago - in several different poses and outfits..

You might want to get your memory checked out before the health care reform takes effect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 08/13/2009

Thank you President O'Bama for standing up to formidable special interests to fight for access to healthcare for all Americans. Healthcare is in crisis because no one since Hillary Clinton has dared to fight this fight. It was bound to be ugly as we have become a nation largely under corporate control. People have let their greed, selfishness and fear blind them to the fact that nearly half of all Americans do not have heath insurance. That is unconscionable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 08/12/2009
- kiwiman122 I'm a Fan of kiwiman122 7 fans permalink

Obama is for many of these special interest groups and many of them are affiliated with the lawyors that wrote the bill. I read almost 700 pages of it and we as Americans will literally have no choice in our options. The government will decide everything(that is not a lie). Obama claims he supports free market competition, yet, there is a section that explains an 8 percent tax on companies that still use private insurers. But if the company has over 250 employees, the government decides what type of health care the employees will receive.(And most companies have that many employees)

Then lastly..82% of Americans have health insurance. Not half.(copy and paste link)
http://www.nchc.org/facts/coverage.shtml

I know all polls and what the government said varies; but I have never heard from anywhere that more then half of America does not have health insurance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 08/13/2009

I like how the left has described Obama as being brave to go into a mixed crowd and "debate" the issue. There were obvious plants there and the crowd was shouting the Obamabot slogan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 08/12/2009

Sure! They were friendly. At least one of the questions came from a kid whose mother has her picture (with Obama) on her Facebook page. No plants? Hah!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 08/12/2009
- barriosbabe I'm a Fan of barriosbabe 239 fans permalink
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i am for sinlge-p or very strong P.O.
hr 3200 is toilet paper
plus why arent people debating the mandate?
ins co gravy train

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tennis elbow

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 08/12/2009
- barriosbabe I'm a Fan of barriosbabe 239 fans permalink
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the people at arlen's TH were so ignorant wow

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tennis elbow

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 08/12/2009
- Mahi Joe I'm a Fan of Mahi Joe 48 fans permalink

Dear Medicare Recipient:

Due to lack of interest the Medicare Program has been discontinued.

Wanna bet that would get a reaction?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 08/12/2009
- Jazzman323 I'm a Fan of Jazzman323 48 fans permalink
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Nice "plants" at Obama's townhall meeting on health care. Very "Chicago."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 08/12/2009
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Especially the little girl!

Julia’s mother was an early Obama supporter in Massachusetts during the presidential election, so she had previously met First Lady Michelle Obama, the Obama daughters Sasha and Malia, and Vice President Joe Biden.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 08/12/2009
- Flokk I'm a Fan of Flokk 8 fans permalink

Nope. 70% of the people there were given tickets by random lottery and the rest of the tickets went to local leaders and schools.

But nice try.

The thing is, it didn't take Obama more than 5 minutes overall to debunk the more wild rumors that you types have been latched on to. Once you cut through that the debate is actually quite tame. How do we pay for it? Who is covered? Is Medicare affected? And so on and so forth. All the wingnut hoopla is just that--wingnut hoopla, it only makes sense to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 08/12/2009
- sc300nc I'm a Fan of sc300nc 52 fans permalink

Obama debunked nothing. It's all in how you interpret the legislation. You either drink the kool aid or are just a little skeptical of continued promises of big gov't that they can never deliver.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 08/12/2009
- Lemmy I'm a Fan of Lemmy 19 fans permalink

Eleven-year-old Julia Hall asked: “How do kids know what is true, and why do people want a new system that can — that help more of us?”

Kathleen Manning Hall, Julia's mother, has donated thousands of dollars to Obama, as has her law firm.

“I don’t want people saying I just have a bunch of plants in here.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 08/12/2009
- fefo70 I'm a Fan of fefo70 12 fans permalink
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The best thing for the US to get proper healthcare is to educate the public. Get those PSA's going Obama. Americans, especially Republicans, are famous for NOT reading, NOT travelling, not getting to know people from other countries, NOT researching and then yelling from the rooftops that we have the best healthcare in the world. If everyone in the country were required to watch SICKO, that's be it. We'd get healthcare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 08/12/2009
- medici I'm a Fan of medici 11 fans permalink

Fefo70, you're so right. It's really sad that so many people who don't have a clue think they have all the answers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 08/12/2009
- ddDinah I'm a Fan of ddDinah 22 fans permalink

Some one at a town hall meeting said so it well when he stated JUST LEAVE US ALONE. Let us live our lives. When is Obama going to stop, he's WIRED TO THE MAX. We're all tired. GO ON VACACTION MAN, STAY ON VACATION. Every time I turn my set on THERE HE IS, I'm tired of seeing his face and hearing his campaign trail speechs. Put health care on the back burner and move on to, say let our country function the way it always has, OR MAYBE HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW IT SUPPOSED TO RUN. Does he have a clue as to how things run? I'd say he's been trying to change the system to fit his ideals instead of learning JUST WHAT HIS JOB S/B. Just saying give it rest MAN, we're getting tired of you blown smoke up our butts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 08/12/2009

Dude, I am against this health care plan as it is written right now. But you are seriously lost if you don;t think we need health care reform/regulation. Stop hating and use your head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 08/12/2009
- Matt7 I'm a Fan of Matt7 241 fans permalink

Oh! I thought the problem was the was WASN'T DOING ANYTHING? That he was taking his family on vacations all around the world on the taxpayers' dime, and that nobody knew what he was doing in that White House.

Do YOU know how the gubmint is supposed to run? How it DOES run? And what's broken?

Leave you alone? He's not bothering you. His presence just irks you. That's all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 08/12/2009
- Flokk I'm a Fan of Flokk 8 fans permalink

Medical bills are a leading cause of home foreclosure and bankruptcy in this country. I recommend you get out of that bubble every once in awhile.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 08/12/2009
- medici I'm a Fan of medici 11 fans permalink

Dinah, I'm sorry, but you're seriously deranged. The rest of us will take the healthcare reform and you can keep the status quo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 08/12/2009
- DanniD I'm a Fan of DanniD 16 fans permalink

Oh sure! If he did just leave them alone, then they'd be whining that the President is ignoring them!

Just immature children! The whole lot of them!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 08/12/2009
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