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Cash For Clunkers Hurting Mom and Pop Used-car Dealers

MICHAEL FELBERBAUM   08/13/09 06:07 PM ET   AP

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RICHMOND, Va. — One man's clunker is another man's meal ticket.

Mom and Pop used-car dealers are feeling the crunch as the old Caravans and Cherokees that provide their livelihood get traded in and banished to junkyards under Cash for Clunkers. By some estimates, three of every five of the used cars turned in for government rebates would have ended up on used car lots or resold for parts.

While the Clunkers program helped push sales of new cars in July to the highest level in nearly a year, sales of used cars have taken a beating.

"We're struggling and a lot of us small guys are going out of business," said James Dameron, sales and finance manager at Chase Motors in suburban Richmond, where sales are down about 30 percent.

About 40 million used vehicles are sold a year, four times the number of new cars, said Keith Whann, an industry expert and chief executive of Columbus Fair Auto Auction in Columbus, Ohio. About a third of the used sales come from independent dealers.

Mom and Pop dealers typically sell just 20 to 25 vehicles a month and keep 40 to 45 vehicles on their lots, a fraction of the inventory for bigger dealerships, Whann said. So when the owner of a 1995 Ford Explorer opts for a new car, and the old SUV goes away forever, the repercussions are felt quickly. Especially for a majority of these dealers who have fewer than six employees.

Even before the clunkers program, the market for used cars was the worst it's been in years.

Fluctuation in gas prices and higher prices at car auctions, where used car dealers get most of their supply, made the market volatile. Customers held onto older cars longer, making it more difficult to get trade-ins to beef up inventory.

Under the popular program, drivers get up to $4,500 for turning in a car or truck that got 18 miles per gallon or less when it was new. In exchange, they get a new ride with better mileage.

To meet the environmental goals of the program, the old cars must be taken off the road. Their engines are choked with liquid glass and the guzzlers are carted off to be flattened.

About 60 percent of the cars traded in under the clunkers program would have ended up resold on used lots or at auctions, Whann said. If, as expected, 750,000 vehicles are traded in under Cash for Clunkers, that's 450,000 cars and trucks won't make it to the used-car market.

At one dealership in Maryland, some cars that were still running well and likely had several years left on them – including a 2000 Chevy Z71 Tahoe that was in great condition – were junked as part of the program because of poor gas mileage.

Most of the clunkers traded in at Valley Automotive Group's four Pontiac-GMC-Buick dealerships in Apple Valley, Minn., had many miles on them and were in poor condition. But there were a few eye-openers that would have made good used cars, said Jim Paul, co-owner of the automotive group.

"There were a few that we did scratch our head on," Paul said. "A couple of them were in awfully nice shape for 150-250,000 miles on them."

Customers with much older clunkers are taking the government incentives because a car that may only fetch $1,000 to $1,500 as a trade-in vehicle will qualify for more under the program.

As the supply of used cars dwindles, it means higher prices.

"The guy looking for a cheap used car is having a helluva hard time now," said Greg Signore, 50, co-owner of Elm Auto Sales in Kearny, N.J. "This program is absolutely increasing the cost of the clunkers left on the market."

He says he's not getting as many customers with modest income looking for basic transportation.

"What about all these people who need the $3,500 cars? Are they going to ride the bus for the rest of their life?" said Mike Salarze, manager of Majestic Motors in Baltimore.

Sweetened by the government's rebates, about 338,659 vehicles have sold under Cash for Clunkers since the program began last month. By tripling the program's budget last week to $3 billion, the Obama administration officials have estimated it could fund a total of 750,000 new car sales.

But it feels like a loss for used dealers. Each new sale means one less opportunity to build back lots.

"They're taking all the cars off the market," Salarze said.

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Associated Press writers Ben Greene in Baltimore, Chris Williams in Apple Valley, Minn., and Victor Epstein in Newark, N.J., contributed to this report.

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12:59 AM on 08/17/2009
Chrysler is going to produce the Fiat 500 at a plant in Mexico. That way it can build them cheap enough to sell them in Central and south America. I am so glad tat we bailed out chrysler in order to save jobs in Mexico.
11:25 PM on 08/16/2009
Are these the buy here-pay here mom and pops that have been ripping off the gullible and the poor for years? Their specialty is taking the earned income tax credit check as down payment then repo'ing the car usually for some less-than-$200 charge that the poor buyer wasn't aware of a month or two later. So then they have the couple of thousand dollar check and the car -- win/win for them.

When Jesus fed the 5,000 with 5 loaves and 2 fish he deprived the local fish salesmen of those sales, the local farmers were also losers, as well as the local bakers. There were probably about several losers in that deal, but there were 5013 winners. In a bad economy that is a pretty good deal.
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nippyfan
01:39 PM on 08/16/2009
Mom and Pop used car dealers? I have yet to come across a cute and honest, Mom & Pop "used" car dealer. It's usually some slick talking unscrupulous character. if mom and pop own it, they certainly aren't there helping.
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KIVPossum
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10:27 AM on 08/16/2009
CARS is hurting everyone except the people who buy new cars and the new car dealers.

The mass of used cars, many in good shape, being junked will raise used car prices for the people who can not afford a NEW car. It will keep the least affluent car owners in even older, less efficient cars.

The used car dealers will have a smaller, less enticing supply, and fewer customers in the market for a ride.

It will hurt independent repair shops for a while, as those cars being junked won't be coming in for repairs and the new ones will be under dealer warranty.

Same for auto part stores. You don't go to PepBoys to get a part for a new car.


If they wanted to do this, it should have been limited to 10 MPG advantage on the trades, and it should have been designed to include used cars. Really, is it more environmentally advantageous to trade in a 2002 Explorer for a new Camry vs. trading a 95 Crown Vic for a 2004 Corolla?
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NakedMoleRat
11:07 PM on 08/16/2009
"is it more environmentally advantageous to trade in a 2002 Explorer for a new Camry vs. trading a 95 Crown Vic for a 2004 Corolla?"

2002 Explorer - 15MPG (city)
2010 Camry - 22 MPG (city)

In a word, yes, over the long term. That 7mpg difference will be more environmentally advantageous.
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09:36 PM on 08/15/2009
Not all used cars are being junked, only those that get the worst fuel economy, and are the worst polluters, and, not even all of those are junked.
Getting the worst polluters off of the roads, for good, is resulting in our using less oil overall, less imported oil, we are putting less pollution into the atmosphere, and a lot of people not employed by Mom and Pop used car dealers are getting a pay check, and paying taxes, instead of receiving an unemployment check.

There is far more upside to the Cash For Clunkers program than there is down side.
09:20 AM on 08/16/2009
Not true, any car you turn in for Cash for Clunkers is REQUIRED to be destroyed at the dealership.
03:48 AM on 08/17/2009
The article of course fails to mention that the junked cars are turned into spare parts except for parts like the engine and drive train.
09:33 PM on 08/15/2009
A vehicle has to be titled to you for one year to qualify.
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07:12 AM on 08/16/2009
Rats! There goes my unemployment/health ins. supplement.
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02:22 PM on 08/15/2009
Good way for me to get some junk out of my driveway. I sell you a $1,000 crapper, and you save $3,500 at the dealer. Works for me!
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Raccoon1
These are the times that try men's souls........
06:54 PM on 08/14/2009
I have a little trouble finding any sympathy for so called "Mom and Pop" used car dealers. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen anything that even remotely resembled a "Mom and Pop" used card dealership. Mostly they've been slimey characters who would do anything to sell a car regardless of consequences to the new purchaser. Yeah, yeah, "caveat emptor."
01:45 PM on 08/14/2009
I regret seeing any legitimate business hurt as a side effect of the program. But around here, anyway, a goodly number of the "mom and pop" vehicle dealers are of dubious merit. Title and odometer fraud seem to be all too common.
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mjtaylor22
01:19 PM on 08/14/2009
THIS IS POINTLESS. he was talking about a tahoe with horrible gas mileage, um that is part of the program, too go green, help the economy, and to be incentive for consumers.to spend since our economy is entirely consumer driven...........so really stop freaking complaining about everything.
cash for clunkers is a good darn idea and serves it spurpose
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Lorianne
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12:45 PM on 08/14/2009
The relative energy inefficiency of personal vehicles are not the greatest energy expense this nation has, buidings are. If we realy wanted to decrease carbon based fuel use, we'd spend money incentivizing making buildings more efficient and making our built enviornment less car dependen.

Incentivizing care purchases is exactly the wrong direction to go and sends the wrong message about where we need to save energy consumption.
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mjtaylor22
02:14 PM on 08/14/2009
u have no clue do ya, there is more than one answer to going green urs is good and clunkers is great and working
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funkalicious
02:18 PM on 08/14/2009
Right on Lorianne. We need to reexamine our built environment. and reorder to commit to more robust sustainable living arrangements. The 97% fuel efficient boiler I installed saves more energy than an automobile cost's a third the price and saves more fuel.
But the 133955millon gallons of gasoline we burnn automobiles and trucks every year is also a massive amount.

We need trains buses and walkable communities.

Fixing the electrical grid we lose about half of our energy in the electric grid to the ether. Big opportunity to save money resources and the planet, fixing the grid and the energy loss should be an Apollo project.
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TheJibreelaMonsters
the library is one of the best places to find me
11:21 AM on 08/14/2009
the Rich get richer while everybody subsidize it
04:16 PM on 08/14/2009
LOL...ya all the rich are rushing out there to buy new cars through C4C.....
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JessWonderin
11:13 PM on 08/14/2009
Did ya see all those Mercedes and Porches being traded for $3,500 toward those new ROLLS?????

Whatta shame, that Turbo Carrera was worth at least $125,000 on the USED car lot . . .
10:33 AM on 08/14/2009
This is the consequence of the program. You can say its too early to complain, however the program is designed to remove something like 500,000 + used cars off the road. Great! We got rid of some gas guzzling vehicles. However, you forget that of those cars, there are decent cars that would be affordable for low income families and persons. If you think that it was worth it to vitalize the new car industry. Great, good for you. I personally think its a travesty for our country. Steal from the poor, and give to the rich. Truly sad America.
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mjtaylor22
02:15 PM on 08/14/2009
500k used cars in a nation of 350 million people
pls review the facts before u comment and stop making mountains outta mole hills
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JessWonderin
11:02 PM on 08/14/2009
. . . awfully nice shape for 150-250,000 miles on them. . . ."

Oh yea, gonna miss having to rebuild a $2,500 engine on that $3,500 used vehicle . . . . and last I checked, the auto market "Trade Pubs" were lamenting the lack of DECENT cars because people were HOLDING on to them and depleting the "low millage vehicles" dealers seek . . . so your claim is baseless but sounds good if you ignore the facts . . . and overlook the boost to the struggling NEW car dealers that provide most of the sales and service "Middle America" seeks . . .

and how "rich" do you have to be to buy a car . . . isn't a car a SMALL part of the "Dream" . . . or are we now accepting the destruction of the Middle Class to the point where only "the RICH" buy new vehicles??? My how the standards have fallen . . . thank a Republican.
10:13 AM on 08/14/2009
There are thousands of used cars available. Just look out your window as you drive through your neighborhood. Look in your local newspaper's classified ads. Most of these cars aren't worth as much as what is owed on them...unaddressed residue of the financial meltdown.
03:26 AM on 08/14/2009
If everyone could hold off their whining until civilization is rescued... that would be great.