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Clyburn: Town Hall Protests Like Horrid Anti-Civil Rights Demonstrations

First Posted: 09/13/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:50 PM ET

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The third-ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives on Thursday compared the disruptive protesters at recent health care town halls to people who unleashed dogs and spat on civil rights demonstrators during the 1960s.

In an interview with the Huffington Post, Rep. James Clyburn, (D-S.C.), said that there was "absolutely" an analogy to be drawn between the horrid experience that he went through as a civil rights leader and the boisterous conservatives who have disrupted health care forums.

"I have seen this kind of hate before. I have seen this discussion before," he said. "I have seen snarling dogs going after people who were trying to peacefully assemble. I have seen the eyes of people who were being spat upon."

"This is all about activity trying to deny the establishment of a civil right. And I do believe that health care for all is -- a civil right," the House Majority Whip argued. "And I think that is why you see this kind of activity. This is an attempt on the part of some to deny the establishment of a civil right."

Clyburn, a veteran of the civil rights movement, said he was particularly appalled by the use of the Swastika symbol at some of these town hall events. Noting that one had been painted on the office of Rep. David Scott (D-Ga.), an African-American, Clyburn insisted that was proof enough that some of the protests were racially motivated.

"There is no question in my mind," he said.

The South Carolina lawmaker's remarks are the most provocative push-back to the town hall protesters to come from the Democratic Party. They seem likely to prompt a wave of debate about the purpose and intentions of the protesters as well as the accuracy of the analogy. They almost assuredly will cause angry recriminations from the conservative community.

Earlier this week, Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) told "The Ed Show" that the last time he had confronted such charged protests, it was during the days of "Ku Klux Klan folks and white supremacists and folks in white sheets." National Review Online accused Dingell of playing the race card. Pat Toomey, the Republican candidate for Senate in Pennsylvania, accused him of "wildly insulting ordinary, honest, decent, hard-working American people."

In Clyburn's eyes, however, the Republican Party deserves the criticism for its "deafening silence" in the wake of the increasingly vitriolic demonstrations. Predicting that the protesters would ultimately turn off voters, he nevertheless called on GOP leadership to condemn the bad actors.

"How many times have I heard [House Minority Leader] John Boehner asking some member of the Democratic Caucus to disassociate himself or herself from Nancy Pelosi's position," said Clyburn. "Yet there is nothing but silence from him with all of these disturbing activities taking place. And my lord, [House Minority Whip] Eric Cantor, the number two guy over there, is Jewish. I mean the [Anti-Defamation League] immediately came out and talked about how horrible it was for this swastika to be painted and said we need to investigate and find out who did it. And to have a Jewish member of the Republican leadership not say a word about that that is just beyond me. I don't understand that. And I'm bothered by that."


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03:18 AM on 08/16/2009
"Pat Toomey, the Republican candidate for Senate in Pennsylvania, accused him of "wildly insulting ordinary, honest, decent, hard-working American people.""
Yeah, right; as though Pat's ever run into one of those.
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zanzig
09:12 AM on 08/16/2009
As an Australian I would prefer to believe that the ordinary honest decent hardworking Americans are those (the majority anyway) I meet on these pages, and not those I see in videos of town hall meetings. I can only hope that those people are an aberrant minority and will not have this inordinate sway over the public mood in your country for too much longer.
03:25 PM on 08/16/2009
Naah... only as long as this country still exists. So just up until 2012.
(The way I see the doomsday scenario as unfolding is a) Earth gets pummeled into molten slop by a passing asteroid or b) another Republican is elected president.)
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06:07 PM on 08/15/2009
Nancy Pelosi is a "fan of disrupters". At least she used to be. I remember when Iraq war protesters, enraged that their Congress backed Bush on the war. Protesters showed up everywhere AND they were vociferous. They disrupted meetings, mass at Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago and Congressional hearings and speakers at Columbia University. Some were arrested, some not. Nonetheless, they were loud. It was their right! LIsten to Nancy in her own words, say that she is a "fan of disrupters". No where does she say only Democratic disrupters.

http://www.breitbart.tv/06-flashback-pelosi-tells-anti-war-protesters-im-a-fan-of-disruptors/
06:57 PM on 08/15/2009
Nancy called and told me to tell you to suck her enormous c**k.
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07:27 PM on 08/15/2009
That would explains why her clothes always look like she is in drag.
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11:52 PM on 08/15/2009
"A District of Columbia Superior Court Judge this morning sentenced two anti-war activists to “time served” for disrupting a March 8 meeting of the House Appropriations Committee as it considered an additional $67,000,000 for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Federal Prosecutors had asked Judge Stephen Milliken to sentence Ed Kinane, of Syracuse, and Mike Ferner, of Toledo, to probation and a “stay away order.”

At the Appropriations Committee hearing, Ferner stood up and began reading a list of names of U.S. soldiers and Iraqi civilians killed in the war, and Kinane stood, holding a banner that said, “Stop the Killing!” The two were quickly taken from the hearing room by Capitol Police and arrested. After being booked they were later released at 2:00 am, the morning of March 9.

This morning in court, Kinane pled no contest and Ferner pled guilty to one charge each of disrupting a Congressional committee hearing. National Lawyers Guild attorney, Mark Goldstone, represented Ferner and advised Kinane who conducted his own defense. Each of the defendants read a prepared statement to Judge Milliken who had several questions for the two men and then imposed his sentence of “time served.”

In his statement to the judge, Kinane, 62, said, “I saw myself as petitioning my elected representatives, my government, for redress of a policy that grieves me enormously,” and concluded by saying, “May each of us do whatever we can to end this heinous war as soon as humanly possible.”
06:04 PM on 08/15/2009
Ronnie Reagan the Democratic turncoat & closet KKK 'ghoul' announced his presidential bid in Philadelphia, Miss. {Think murdered Civil rights worker Schwerner -Goodman - Chaney} wonder why the symbolism? What a creep he was - saying if school kids wanted tomatoes in their lunch - they just needed to reach for the ketchup bottles on the table - you betcha ~ wink wink wink. The KKK is alive & kicking at the C Street house in DC. Be afraid & be very aware of the Republican base. They don't want McC's 'that one' - the black man in OUR White House. Eeeeeew!
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Captjashook
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02:23 PM on 08/15/2009
Grist for the mill.
02:07 PM on 08/15/2009
there is a difference.

civil rights was the greatest american cause of the 20th century.
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03:43 PM on 08/15/2009
And decent, affordable health care for all is -- what? Chopped liver?
04:17 PM on 08/16/2009
Not a right! Show me in the constitution it is a right.
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urweatherman
05:06 AM on 08/16/2009
Made possible by the GOP....and only the GOP....thank you very much!
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1dogs2
09:27 AM on 08/16/2009
That's odd. I was under the impression that Kennedy and Johnson were democrats.
12:29 PM on 08/15/2009
This goes to show you how far this country has not come. The people should be on posters labeled -If only I had a mind.
09:56 AM on 08/15/2009
What Pelosi really thinks. Well when the protesters are on her side anyway....

http://www.breitbart.tv/06-flashback-pelosi-tells-anti-war-protesters-im-a-fan-of-disruptors/
06:59 PM on 08/15/2009
Nanci called and told me to tell you to kiss her smokin' hot Italian *ss.
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urweatherman
05:11 AM on 08/16/2009
Sorry.....only dems do that.....why not u specter?
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yellowdogminnesotan
I like my women in binders!
09:33 AM on 08/15/2009
He's right, my children will look back at news clips of this, like I did school projector films of Southern Anti-Civil rights protesters. With utter disbelief and disgust. They'll say what we did, how could they have been so wrong!
04:20 PM on 08/16/2009
You are full of crap. THe media is not showing the truth. Will you tell your childeren that the president attacked the people of the United States, and sicked his union and acron thungs on us? Will you, you freaking hypocrite! I feel sorry for your childeren for having you as a parent. They are going to be so unprepared for life and not know the truth with a parent like you!
09:32 AM on 08/15/2009
Protesters are now racists?
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10:44 AM on 08/15/2009
Cut the crap with the 'protesters' bit, OK. We all know the drill and the back story behind this whole outrageous thing. And it ain't 'protesters'.
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Finally, it's spring!
10:56 AM on 08/15/2009
What is it then? It's my opinion that those attending the town hall meetings are there to keep a decent discussion from happening.

I call that protesting. All they need to do is be civil.
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LeLoup
Res ipsa loquitur, ergo tace!
04:31 PM on 08/15/2009
Some of them are.
Some of them are not.

Is that such a big problem for you to understand the meaning of "some"?
04:25 AM on 08/15/2009
Sneakerlite is a STORMFRONT member!!!!
10:47 PM on 08/15/2009
Ooooh! Ooooh! Stormfronters are soooo SCARY!
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11:23 PM on 08/14/2009
I can understand why Rep. Clyburn is making this comparison and it is a fair one. There is no sustainable reason for the fury that these protesters are exhibiting at the town hall meetings. Since when does having a philosophical or political difference mean you have to react with such scorn, hatred, disdain and disrespect?
This is precisely the way racist southerners acted when blacks fought and marched for equal treatment. As if to give equality would make themselves less equal. As if it were a zero-sum game. If we give others something (the right to vote, access to affordable healthcare and/or coverage, etc.) that means there will be less for us.
It seems people get really riled up when they perceive they will lose an advantage, a position of superiority. The idea that some people deserve health care and/or coverage and others do not is so reviling that it keeps me up at night. A privileged child should be able to get heart surgery as easily as the child of working class parents. In that sense, it is as the congressman suggests, a civil right. People who equate this concept with Nazism and the ridiculous notion that the country is imploding should be ashamed. And they should be doubly ashamed of their disgusting behavior.
There is no reason reform can't be a civil, meaningful debate.
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LeLoup
Res ipsa loquitur, ergo tace!
04:33 PM on 08/15/2009
Fanned and faved.
Excellent post IMNSHO.
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devans00
A nice hot cup of tea.
10:47 PM on 08/14/2009
I hate how people try to disregard and invalidate Representative James Clyburn and Representative John Dingell feelings and opinions. If they says the anti-health care reform protests feel like anti civil rights movement, then it does as far as they are concerned. They either lived through that experience or talked to people who did. So their points of view have weight.

Who is the National Review Online or anyone else to "accuse of playing the race card"? That's the quickest way to brush off the life experiences and unnecessarily disrespect fellow human beings that I know of.
04:13 PM on 08/16/2009
Well, until everyone stands up and forces them to resign. Any white man that did what he did, would have bene ran out of town. It is pathetic the racism against whites. Talk about hypocrites. Hopefully you will keep pushing until another civil war is started.
09:24 PM on 08/14/2009
This type of talk from an elected representatvie is reprehensible. Pointing fingers and calling names is such a weak argument. Stand up to the issues, and stop looking down at the people!
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10:46 AM on 08/15/2009
Take your own advice...
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He who comes in peace
12:11 PM on 08/15/2009
I second that . . .
02:18 PM on 08/15/2009
So you approve of the rantings and nazi pictures they are using? You believe it's okay to bring a loaded bun to a peaceful event to scare and bully others from participating? You don't say anything about the name calling: Hitler, Socialist, Fascist, Death Panel, Baby Killer! Rep. Clyburn didn't call any one names he said the tone and hatred remind him of the 60's during the Civil Rights Movement -- that is not name calling!
04:16 PM on 08/16/2009
Worse, he just stereotpye everyone is being racist! That is worse than name calling. What hatred, the hatred of tired of being lied too, pushed around, slandered? Man you liberals are such hypocrites. Think you can say whatever you want and everyone should just like it? Go screw yourselves. You self centered poor excuse of a human! They jerks work for us, not the other way around. We the majority said we don't want it. End of story!
04:31 PM on 08/16/2009
Why not, you think it is ok you lie, attack, and slander us. All bets are off when you do that. Don't expect us to care what the hell you think!
08:37 PM on 08/14/2009
LEt us join together ourselves and DEMAND health reform. Sign my petition at www.stopbackingdown.com !
07:58 PM on 08/14/2009
Rep. Clyburn, there is a far more destructive attack on government funded health care, an attack that also grew from the 1960’s – drug abuse. You, and your fellow liberals have ignored the incredible drain that drug abuse, particularly stimulant abuse, has already created. Delusional addicts seek emergency room care for everything from “crank bugs” to “meth-mouth”. These same people eventually fall victim to severe cardiac, renal and mental destruction. Along the way they introduce others to their nightmare and produce ADD and Autism in their own children. This is not a one percent or two percent problem; it is a problem involving a huge percentage of our health care dollars. It is problem that drives a market great enough to support Mexican drug cartels in a war against their own country and the development of huge gangs within ours.
I have not heard a single word mentioned about paying for the addicts, their health, their recovery, their children’s health and their children’s welfare - all to support recreational drug use. Considering the number of drugs abused, their broad range of heath effects, and the violence and injury arising from the marketing of drugs, this should be a major point of discussion. Conjured up racial attacks on Americans looking for legitimate answers, even if their methods don’t meet your social standards is not a method used to find a solution.
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03:23 AM on 08/15/2009
Legalize it the violence will stop. Another plant here?
02:21 PM on 08/15/2009
Why is this only a "Liberal" problem? Why didn't the Republicans address this during Bush/Cheney or should I say Cheney/Bush administration? I agree that marijuana should be legalized and taxed. This would result in a major decrease of prisoners in the United States and tax money being spent to house them. It would also eliminate the majority of the black market and crime that goes along with it. I don't think you are correct to connect autism to drugs -- the experts in this field have never done so. If anything it is probably connected to childhood immunizations. The rest of your comments are just to bizare to even address.