Barney Frank Confronts Woman At Town Hall Comparing Obama To Hitler

At a Barney Frank town hall meeting in Dartmouth, MA, a constituent asks, "Why are you supporting this Nazi policy?"

Frank responds: "On what planet do you spend most of your time?" He then calls her approach "vile, contemptible nonsense." He closes by saying: "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table."

Comments

[FredianoB]

Doesn't anyone find it odd that this 'woman' is always identified as 'a woman?'

Isn't anyone the least bit curious to find out who she really was, if she was Barney's sock-puppet, sent there so that Barney could play political T-Ball and paint his opposition as insane?

The event smelled and looked exactly like old style Soviet era street theatre.

Hello?

[dominickdesid]

What was the real question asked by Rachel Brown to puppet BAILOUT Barney Frank, which he never answered, Find out why her question was blacked out by phony media disinformation at: http://www.larouchepub.com/radio/archive_2009.html
See August 22, 2009: program with Doctor Debra Freeman, National Spokeswoman for Lyndon LaRouche, on "Will the British Empire Survive the Mass Strike in the U.S.?" Hosted by Harley Schlanger.Rachel Brown herself starts off the intrview and explains the real truth in facing down the key City of London and Wall Street crony who pushed the Bush and Paulson Bailout thru the House of Representatives! Doctor Freeman also reveals the relation between the ongoing $24 Trillion Bailout and the fraud called Heath Reform.

[uvymopka]

He needs to stay on Uranus.

[alexhoward]

You need to pull your head out of your arse.

[WilliamTheV]

it's great that he didn't roll over like so many other senators and representatives at the town hall meeting, i love that he pointed out the ludicrous-ness of that woman's questions.

[diastar]

I love Barney Frank for taking this position. Why pretend to have a discussion with a person that has such a limited understanding of what she is taking about. Why pretend that these obnoxious claims deserve a thought out response? Yay Barney Frank! I hope Obama gets the message and stops trying to negotiate with people who are not interested in any solutions for health care.

[mbeck2]

Everytime I heard Obama speak i got this weird feeling--couldn't quite figure it out until I was talking to a friend of mine that is a used car salesman.Suddenly it came to me--I was getting the ole sales spill,and that was what was getting weird.Would I buy a used car from Obama?Not hardly,wouldn't buy aluminum siding from him either.Guess when you can't con enough people with the actual money to buy something then you become a community organizer.All you got to sell them is the fact that they will get something using other peoples money.Makes the selling considerably easier.We are getting sold a bill of goods by a guy who is running a con game.Problem is --he's using our money and wasting it on programs with no chance of success.

[GOODREASON]

I feel that as well.......

[dakotawoman]

You're already paying for the uninsured through the high prices you pay for your own insurance. The uninsured have no recourse but to use emergency rooms for doctoring because they cannot afford clinics or regular maintainence care. So they get sicker, sicker, sicker until they collapse and end up in the ER which costs hundreds more than a simple doctor visit. Hospitals are obliged to treat them (which is the correct thing to do for a supposedly humane and civilized nation such as the US) but hospitals pass on the cost by raising prices for those of us who can pay either out of our own pockets or our insurance.

All this opposition is coming from doctors who WANT lots of uninsured patients so that they don't have to honor any of the pricing limits imposed by insurance companies. The uninsured can be overcharge and sued unlike the insured. If everyone was insured doctors would lose a nice source of unregulated income.

Far as I can see, doctors are rich enough. Who cares if they take it in the shorts. Right now its the working poor, the average guy breaking his back to provide for his family who is taking it. Bet you know whose side I am on.

[BitterBosh]

It's too bad talking to Bawney Fwank is like talking to a half-retarded Elmer Fudd.

[Woman Marine154]

I watched the entire CSPAN broadcast of that town hall and I loved this moment for Barney. He is an absolute bad ass! Most of the town hall was full of non productive interruptions and jeers and was really a disgrace for that community. People were there to confront him and he didn't take it. People were there for one reason and that was to throw Barney off his game. I am a complete fan of this guy now. His words and his debate was full of real details and if he would have had some thoughtful rebuttal it would have been different entirely. Barney has every right to not deal with this kind of garbage from people who are there to just get on tv. I am going to make it a priority to tell the guy that he kicked some!

[yweston]

I wonder if members of the "Nation of Islam" would be allowed to carry guns and assault rifles outside an event featuring "former President Bush". I believe they would have been beaten like "Rodney King".
I just sayin'

[Aphroditee]

Well, the new black panthers had night sticks outside a polling place and the case has just been dropped so.....

[mbeck2]

They would have been allowed if they were in Arizona.Arizona accepts the second amendment as it was intended.Anybody remember the 68 Democratic national convention?Now that is Chicago Democrats in action.

[mbeck2]

They would have been allowed had they been in Arizona.A state the takes the second amendment as it was intended.As for poor ole Rodney--reminds me of the 68 Democratic national convention.Daileys policethugs beating college students.Help me remember--wasn't Dailey a democratic Chicagolandthug?

[RobertHenryEller]

Excellent point.

Bill Maher made the same observation on Real Time this past Friday.

[FR]

Go Baahney!!

To the "constitut­ion"-tro//­s on this thread claiming that O has damaged the constitution (the H comparisons get ya too much of a backlash:??)

All you can say is that things "are not" in the Constitution. Well, neither are women's votes or freedom for black people, and that does NOT make them un-constitutional. Inconvenient for some people maybe, but ...

All this pseudo-con­structioni­sm is just a way of yammering about "your" America that is supposedly disappearing. It's never OUR America, just the America of you guys alone.

Newsflash: this America belongs to ALL of US.

[libmac]

"All you can say is that things "are not" in the Constitution. Well, neither are women's votes or freedom for black people, and that does NOT make them un-constit­utional...­."

I agree with your general sentiment, but the 13th and 19th amendments would disagree with you.

[FR]

You're right, as I should have said that they "were" not in the Constitution. They were not in the original document, and (what I consider) the false arguments about the Constitution always reference "original" intent and strict construction that reflects what the founding fathers supposedly "wanted."
And yet ... we had to amend it, didn't we? repeatedly.

[Jaloysiusm]

I know, right? At this point a president who only ignored the Constitution would almost be an improvement. Bush couldn't even stick to the Magna Carta. Remember habeas corpus?

[mamala4]

Bushie doesn't even know what the Magna Carta is, no less stick to it.

[RogerHWerner]

It's nice to hear someone in political authority tell people who have the intelligence of blocks of wood the truth: They have the intelligence of blocks of wood. You don;t argue or debate with these people. There's no point to it. And Frank is correct: It's amazing that the First Amendment permits the contemptible nonsense espoused by the right to exist in the public discourse. It's unfortunate that more people aren't smart enough to understand that they are being played for saps by the business community, who sees people as commodities to exploit, use, and discard as the bottom line requires. Government may be inefficient but the same can be said for virtually any large bureaucracy but all things being equal, if I had to place my faith in big government or big business (neither is an ideal situation mind you), I would chose big government without hesitation. Really, a big representative government is the only power that can balance the power and wealth of big corporations and what we've done is emaciate the only power that can effect such a balance. Until the imbalance is redressed, we won;t see much social and economic justice in the US because it isn't good for the bottom line.

[stimpy]

Gosh, every time I talk to Comcast or some other large corporation, I'm reminded "Oh, if only government ran as well as these commercial enterprises!"

[mccheese]

Well, I like Barney Frank and agree with him in principle about this lady. But considering he's a Senator he really should maintain a higher and more polite demeanor than the birthers and teabaggers who are making fools of themselves at these town halls. When you argue with an idiot you risk being confused with one... especially during the sound bite sampling on Fox News, CNN, etc...

[minkia]

He is not a Senator. At some point you have to speak to people in the language they understand, if their level of expression can only explain disagreement by calling people Nazis, the only way you can tell them that's dumb is the way Barney did. Im sure she got that.

[mamala4]

So he chose NOT to argue with her...he told her what he thought of her and that was it, period. Great job Barney!

[GOODREASON]

Yes, he does lack some class in his presentation.

[alexhoward]

You lack class in presentation.

[scully05]

None of you people who aren't of color, will never understand what it's like to be black! I am not black, but my smart, handsome, well-educated husband, whether it be book sense or street smarts, is. He has it both! We continue to go through challenging days and nights of the forever on-going taunts and smirks of racsiums and we are just sick and tired of it!! All be it my husband Doc, is a highly reguarded and respectable man, sometimes he just wants to let it all come out and scream to the world that it's time to start behaving like adults and being who you are despite the color you were given by GOD. So yes, I say our President cannot REALLY be who he is because of people like you!!

[GOODREASON]

America is full of people of color. It's really up to the individual to realize their own confidence. There will always be ignorant people of all races making comments. It works both ways...

[Jaloysiusm]

Hey--let's stipulate to everything the GOP is saying about government-run health care: it'll be a bureaucratic nightmare, the government will get between you and your doctor...heck, let's even say that the government will have death panels and execute Grandma.

Then let's observe the fact that no one, no one, is making a serious case that this be offered as anything more than an option. Which would compete with, not replace, the insurance copmpanies.

This should be capitalism's moment to shine! Go head to head with an inefficient, even homicidal, government plan and bury socialism forever!

Except, I'm sorry, what? The insurance companies are saying they couldn't begin to compete with a government option and that it would drive them out of business.

Can you imagine the horror of what they're offering if they're saying it can't go head to head in the marketplace with plan that features death panels? You really have to fine-tune your concept of customer service to come up with something that makes executing Grandma look preferable.

[jeff90125]

Please let's not forget what always happens with any government program. It will, without a doubt, get bigger, more intrusive and more expensive.

Here's an example; in 1913 the 16th amendment was passed and the income tax began. It was nothing to get upset about at all. It was 1% of any income over $250k (does that amount sound familiar?) That doesn't apply to most everybody even today. Back then it was even fewer people. What is the income tax today?

Even if ObamaCare passes and it is completely optional and everybody is happy with it, what will it be like in 2 years, 5 years or 10 years?

[FR]

Let me get this straight: even it it passes with all his promises intact and everybody is happy about it, you're STILL gonna complain ...
Isn't that what we've been saying about the alleged "loyal opposition" all along?

[rocgus1]

You have ssome good points. Lets look at the other side of the coin. Look what Health insurance companies and their policies are like today vs say 10years ago. You pay high premiums and they cancel you when you file a claim. Price their product so high you can't afford it or choose not to take you if you have had a claim.
The last ten years have seen preditory business practices by oil companies, credit card companies., drug companies, insurance companies home and health to mention a few. Let the free market work. Are you kidding! If you haven't been stung yet just wait till they get around to you then you'll screem, something should be done!!

[Jaloysiusm]

Um, checked out where private insurance is on track to leave us in 2, 5, and 10 years?

It's going to be government­-sponsored anyway, since half the country will be having to go to emergency rooms for primary care, and someone's going to have to pick up the tab.
Somehow the tolerance for government sponsorship always goes up when it takes the form of corporate welfare.

[alexhoward]

IT'S AN OPTION, you gleeking, flap-mouthed gudgeon. If you don't like it, DON'T BLOODY WELL USE IT. And as for your nonsense about the 16th Amendment:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Nothing about $250k. That's something that can be adjusted BY THE CONGRESS as and when they see fit — i.e, should the economy begin to inflate.

[mccheese]

Brilliant comment, both funny and absolutely true!!! I'm dying of laughter... Hats off to you.

[dotsie01]

Are you crazy?

[alexhoward]

No, you are.

[dakotawoman]

Yep, look at how the private sector can't compete with government run things.

Look how Fed Ex and UPS are left in the dust by the postal service.

Look at how private amusement parks (Disney Land, Six Flags, etc) are impoverished by the fact that folks abandon them wholesale for all the delights of the state and national parks.

And, of course, even though the government mismanages EVERYTHING it touches, it sure will be some stiff competition.

So, the government is both totally incompetent yet will totally out-perform it's private sector competition?

Which one is it?

[sg1395]

someone explain this to me! how stupid are republicans? how is obama a guy trying to reach out to middle class families and give them high quality health care a nazi? all the republicans do is let companies like exxon mobile and insurance companies make record profits while middle class families struggle and watch ceo's make more billions of dollars. there rich they can afford healthcare so they dont care!