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Obama To Use Biden To Twist Senate Arms On Health Care

First Posted: 09/19/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:50 PM ET

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Even as the White House concedes that its options for recruiting Republican support on health care have dwindled, if not passed altogether, administration officials say they have one last weapon in an effort to curry elusive bipartisan support.

Vice President Joseph Biden has, to this point, been noticeably silent in the health care debate, his time consumed primarily with overseeing the stimulus and consulting on foreign policy matters. Now, however, the assets he brings to the debate are of increasing importance and White House aides say he will be deployed by the president in a more strategic matter -- primarily as a bridge between the administration and those recalcitrant Senate Democrats and moderate Republicans critical to reform's passage.

"He has pretty substantial relationships with most members of the Senate who didn't come in this year," said one administration official. "He knows [Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max] Baucus (D-Mont.) well, he knows [Sen. Chuck] Grassley (R-Iowa). He knows [Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid (D-Nev.). It is going to depend on what the issues are and who he needs to talk to but there is no one who is currently playing a major role that he doesn't have a long relationship with."

Jay Carney, a chief spokesman for Biden, noted that the vice president is set to hold a roundtable discussion with health care professionals and Health and Human Secretary Kathleen Sebelius this Friday in Chicago. In addition, Carney said, the vice president has been advising Obama privately on the matter over the past few months.

"He serves the president as a confidential adviser who brings a lot of perspective and experience," Carney said. "Because of his years in the Senate and his relationships there, he is also in frequent contact with his former colleagues on the issue. I'm sure that will continue as the process moves forward in Congress."

Biden could also play an important role beyond Capitol Hill. Part of the reason he was chosen as vice president was for his appeal to elderly and white working class communities -- two major constituencies that have soured on the White House's approach to the health care debate.

He can also publicly identify with consumers of medical services. During the primary campaign he routinely would make light of the fact that he had "acquired more health care bills than anyone."

"I have consumed more of your practice than most of you will ever, ever have to do," he told a group of medical students and personnel in Des Moines, Iowa, in October 2007. "After having spent seven months in the hospital with a couple craniotomies, a few cranial aneurisms, a major embolism, watching my kids recover for a couple years I came to say, thank God y'all are deciding to be doctors we need you badly."

And yet, Biden is not expected to take the stump in an effort to drum up support for health care's passage. There is the continued concern among some that the vice president's penchant for verbal gaffes could cause problems. Mainly, however, White House officials and political observers stress that there is more bang for the buck by sticking him on his former Senate colleagues.

"I'm not sure you want him out there as a spokesman, though in front of the elderly they might," said Norm Ornstein, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. "His talent is suited to working with the colleagues he had for 36 years. I suspect that will be the role he's going to play."

Whether Biden can succeed on this front is another question altogether. On Wednesday, The New York Times reported that the White House was increasingly of the mindset that it needs to get health care done without Republican support. Spokesman Robert Gibbs, the day before, acknowledged that the pool of GOPers with which the craft legislation had grown quite small.

But Biden's main pitch during the campaign was that he could succeed on the bipartisan front in a way his competitors couldn't. And it was health care reform where he promised to have particular sway.

"It's about whether or not you're going to be able to, as President, generate a National consensus," he said during a presidential candidate forum in October 2007. "Because if you're a Democrat you're going to have to go out there and get 15, 20 percent of those Republicans to vote for it. You can't do it with just Democrats. And you're going to have to be able to convince the American people that this is understandable, soluble."


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07:51 AM on 08/21/2009
Excellent article, Sam, your analogy is spot on...send in Biden, coach, and about bloody time.
12:50 AM on 08/21/2009
Biden has to twist some Senator's arms because Harry Reid can't do the job. While Biden twists arm, Reid will wring his hands.
07:45 AM on 08/21/2009
Biden will actually do it...with a nice smile.
11:44 AM on 08/20/2009
The old Lyndon Johnson approach...what took you so long....
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global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
12:50 PM on 08/20/2009
What took the public, especially the liberal grass roots, to say loud and clear "SCREW BIPARTISANSHIP, IT WILL BE A LOUSY BILL UNLESS DEMOCRATS GO IT ALONE!"?
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claudiam
Proud Arizona Democrat
10:52 AM on 08/20/2009
Very good - Joe get it done! claudiatucsonaz
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newtom
eschew obfuscation
10:45 AM on 08/20/2009
Send in the Brute Squad!
10:14 AM on 08/20/2009
C-SPAN TOWN HALL -

Showing Mississippi Town Hall D- Gene Taylor
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wonkguy
10:14 AM on 08/20/2009
So Joe is going to twist their arms to do what exactly? What does the White House want them to do? Are they just going to twist in the wind waiting for th repubiclans and the "know nothings" to take ad hominem attacks on them? What does the White House want?!
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charon
The question is more important than the answer
10:12 AM on 08/20/2009
President Obama would be more effective, I believe, if he had gone after Bush's administration (and the Congress people who supported it) tooth and nail for corruption and violation of law before trying to push through health care reform. I realize he may have thought that there is a timetable to this, before the midterm elections and his own re-election time, and there is some truth to that. But thorough investigations and prosecutions of bushco would have further weakened the opposition, and Biden would have an easier time twisting arms of the blue dogs.
05:52 PM on 08/20/2009
That may be true, but hindsight is 20/20. Even I supported the current political approach.
09:59 AM on 08/20/2009
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09:51 AM on 08/20/2009
Open up Medicare to those folks 50 and over as a public option. Charge them $450 a month to belong (the stated cost of the Medicare website). From 50 - 65 its coverage for fee, after 65 its free.
09:50 AM on 08/20/2009
The assumptions about what groups of Americans support health care reform and which don't appear more and more to be based on loud, hired protesters at town hall meetings. There is a claim that the elderly do not support health care reform. That is not true. AARP did a survey of the elderly that showed a large majority do support reform of health care, including the public option.

9 months ago by a significant margin the whole country voted for the candidate who said he would do health care reform, including public option. That is how we really know what people want. Not by who can shout the loudest. Not by polls whose pollsters are long time Insurance lobby people. We do it by elections. That's how we know. And the people want health care reform with a public option. The process that culminated 9 months ago was dragged out for two long years of campaigning. There was ample time for everyone to lay their position before the American people and HEALTH CARE REFORM WITH THE PUBLIC OPTION WON.

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09:28 AM on 08/20/2009
Time to stop being the nce guy, its not working, go head and let Joe at 'em. They'll starighten up or wish they had.
07:49 AM on 08/21/2009
I agree, I fully understand Biden has been extremely busy lately, but he does this well...not mean but effective. I just hope it's not too late to pull the Biden card.Given the chance, he won't take any prinsioner (fluffy Reid). Timing could be strategy on Obama's part.

Rock'em, Sock'em Joe Biden.
07:54 AM on 08/21/2009
tired (snort) prinsioner = prisoner ;-)
09:25 AM on 08/20/2009
Remember when Americans knew we were in a recession? Before GOP acknowledged this!

Remember when John McCain and his advisor- Phil Graham- said it was all in our head?

Remember the DENIAL of the DO nothings?

72% of Americans want Public Option- Congress divided? Tom Delay's Gerrymandering does not match the American people!

Remember- the anti intellect mantra by the GOP : Intellect = Elite?

Recall this started with Rove during the campaign.

Elite = Intellect

The World warned us not to invade Iraq-GOP ignored the world and invaded Iraq, Renamed French Fries!

Australians warned us not to allow Rupert Murdoch to infiltrate our free press standards

England warned us not to allow Rupert Murdoch to infiltrate our free press standards

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Kassandra
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09:16 AM on 08/20/2009
Biden, at least, has been around a lot longer than Obama, who really doesn't look like he knows what he's doing.
What? did he think this was gong to be easy? Is that the sort of guy Obama is? If it isn't easy, he caves? Gad Zooks, That's what it's looking like to me.
And now, this talk about dragging the Clintons into it? That would be a colossal mistake, it would really make him look weak....er.
Of course, he's got Hillary parked in Africa for gods know how long so she won't get under foot. Goddess help US!
09:29 AM on 08/20/2009
You are really stupid if you think Obama doesn't know what he is doing. Bush was a master mind too right? Go post your comments on Drudge.
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09:36 AM on 08/20/2009
I don't think Kassandra is against the President, she just thinks he doesn't appear to be in control of this (to her anyway). I don't see how your view that he knows what he is doing is any more valid. I sincerely hope you are right, but I'm a lifelong Dem and totally supported Obama, but I share Kassandra's fears.
09:38 AM on 08/20/2009
more murdoch intellect

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Kassandra
Your micro-bio is empty
09:54 AM on 08/20/2009
at least I've GOT an intellect, unlike some...............
09:09 AM on 08/20/2009
I want to think Joe, a likeable man, can do some heavy lifting for Obama.
After all, the man ran for president himself.....he must have some pull with Congress.
Maybe that's what he brings to the table....something Obama does not yet have.