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'Cash For Clunkers' To End Monday

KEN THOMAS and STEPHEN MANNING   08/20/09 11:11 PM ET   AP

Cash For Clunkers

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration will end the popular $3 billion Cash for Clunkers program on Monday, giving car shoppers a few more days to take advantage of big government incentives.

The Transportation Department said Thursday that the government will wind down the program on Monday at 8 p.m. EDT. Car buyers can receive rebates of $3,500 or $4,500 for trading in older vehicles for new, more fuel-efficient models.

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said the program has been "a lifeline to the automobile industry, jump starting a major sector of the economy and putting people back to work." He said the department was "working toward an orderly wind down of this very popular program."

The White House has touted the program's success in providing a targeted boost to the sluggish economy since its inception in late July. Through Thursday, auto dealers have made deals worth $1.9 billion and the incentives have generated more than 457,000 vehicle sales.

But the administration needed to put a halt to the program to avoid surpassing the $3 billion funding level. Consumers were on pace to exhaust the program's coffers in early September and dealers have complained about long delays in getting reimbursed for the car incentives.

John McEleney, chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association, said he remained concerned that so few dealers had been reimbursed for Clunker deals. But he said the Monday deadline should give dealers time to get their paperwork in order.

"I think if we can get a clean cutoff Monday and get everything processed by then, it will have been a pretty darned successful program," he said.

But Mike Mahalak, who runs a Dodge, Chrysler and Jeep dealership in Winter Haven, Fla., said the Monday end date could lead to a similar rush that nearly crippled the federal government's computer systems that were set up to handle claims.

"That Web site will lock up again once everyone is cramming it again on Monday," Mahalak said. The administration has said it expanded the capacity of the computer network in an effort to improve the process for dealers.

The Transportation Department said they have reviewed nearly 40 percent of the transactions and have already paid out $145 million to dealers. Obama officials said there are no plans to seek additional funding.

Applications for rebates will not be accepted after the Monday deadline, administration officials said, and dealers should not make additional sales without receiving all the necessary paperwork from their customers. Dealers will be able to resubmit rejected applications after the deadline.

The Transportation Department cautioned dealers about making sales this weekend, advising them to make sales only when the buyer's paperwork is clearly in order and can be submitted immediately for repayment.

President Barack Obama said in an interview Thursday that the program has been "successful beyond anybody's imagination" but dealers were overwhelmed by the response of consumers. He pledged that dealers "will get their money." The administration has said it has tripled the number of staffers sorting through the dealer paperwork.

Dealers have complained of delays in getting reimbursed and backlogs of vehicle paperwork getting processed in the program. Dealers have said they face a risk of not being reimbursed but LaHood has pledged that dealers will be paid.

"We do not know how many deals are in the pipeline. We don't know how many dollars are left in the program at this very moment," said Ted Smith, president of the Florida Automobile Dealers Association. "That's fundamental to the health of the dealerships that are participating. If you run out of money before you run out of deals, that's not a good situation."

On Thursday, both Chrysler and General Motors said they would begin providing cash advances to dealers to help cover any cash shortfalls related to the program. The automakers said they would provide the advances for up to 30 days to dealers who have already completed a sale and that they will be available as long as the program remains in effect.

The National Automobile Dealers Association said its trade group met with Transportation officials to discuss concerns about reimbursement delays and ways of fixing the problems. NADA spokesman Charles Cyrill said the association "stressed the importance of addressing – as soon as possible – how the program will end, including the possible suspension of the program."

Dealer say the delays have led to a cash crunch. They typically borrow money to put new cars on their lots and must repay those loans within a few days of a sale.

Some dealers are no longer participating in the Clunker program. The Greater New York Automobile Dealers Association, which represents dealerships in the New York metro area, said about half its 425 members had left the program because they cannot afford to offer more rebates.

Still, the program provided at least a temporary jolt for automakers.

GM announced plans to rehire more than 1,300 workers and automakers have been paying overtime to boost production. Hyundai recalled 3,000 workers in Alabama.

"At a time of great economic distress, cash for clunkers has stimulated increased production by domestic automakers, putting thousands of idled workers back on the job," said Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich.

The government's online reimbursement system was flooded with requests shortly after the program began in late July, overwhelming the computer system and staff set up to process the deals. That led to big delays for dealers trying to file the paperwork they needed to get paid back for the rebates.

LaHood said some of the submitted paperwork has been incomplete or inaccurate, which contributed to delays. He acknowledged the Transportation Department did not have enough people to process the paperwork but said DOT was ramping up staff.

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AP Auto Writer Dan Strumpf contributed from New York.

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11:38 AM on 08/21/2009
No old used cars left for the poor?? I have a '96 VW convertable - any takers???? Maybe buy it from me and give it to a poor person so they can get to work. Now that is real Christian charity and no government cash put out either. Any republican takers?????? No - didn't think so... I would do it myself but I am unemployed.
11:35 AM on 08/21/2009
Car donation charities are very happy this program is ending as it really hurt us.

http://www.cars4charities.org
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PAposter
Radical Progressive
11:56 AM on 08/21/2009
Why aren't you working in cooperation with dealership, asking them to donate some cars to your organization?
11:28 AM on 08/21/2009
I have a used car to sell- '96 VW convertible. Any takers who want to buy it from me and give it to a poor person who can't afford to participate in C 4 C? Now that would be real charity.

I would give it to someone but I am unemployed. Need the moola
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blueken
Finger Picking blues man
11:21 AM on 08/21/2009
We took 465,000 gas guzzeling, carbon bealching behemoths off the road. We put a bunch of auto workers back on the job and got a bunch of Americans a new ride that will save them money in the long run. Most states will see a much needed blip in sales tax. What an evil commie plot. Wouldn't that money be better used on bonuses for Wall Street tycoons who almost destroyed the economy?
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11:00 AM on 08/21/2009
I applaud Cash-for-clunkers, and I'm sorry to see it ending, but I could never take advantage of it even though I really really wanted to because my car is ineligible. I have an 11-year-old Chevy Prism that has given me a realiable 30-35 mpg for all this time, and on a road trip it would even get 40mpg! The trade-in on it is less than $1000 (no air conditioning!).

I've been waiting actually for a plug-in diesel hybrid. But it's gotten to the point where I'm going to have to get an interim car. It would have been nice to use Cash-for-clunkers.

At least I know that I've been doing my part for 11 years by driving a "high-mileage" car. ;-{
10:05 AM on 08/21/2009
Meh, stop your complaining. Yeah, it's a big hunk of money just being doled out randomly. But at least this money is going towards people who aren't spending it on Superbowl ads and golden parachutes. Give it a rest.
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PAposter
Radical Progressive
09:58 AM on 08/21/2009
Stop blaming the "current" administration for the deregulation policies of the previous administration that allowed for increased corporate corruption, and ultimate failure. There's a reason corporations are regulated, it not only protects the consumer, but the corporations as well.
09:53 AM on 08/21/2009
It is an artificial high. Now that the “drug of money” is gone, the addict for this cash is going to come off of the drug and suffer withdrawal. The result will be a massive drop in auto sales. Like a heroine addict. Furthermore, this program has killed the business of auto repair and spare parts. All this has done is make Honda, Toyota, and Nissan fatter off of tax dollars because the actually built cars that people want. If this were National Health care and the money ran out, what would happen?....I’ll help you out. (A) Cut Services (B) Cut Jobs (C) Raise revenue via increasing taxes or raising fees….You choose
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rf dude
Just an average Man of Bronze
10:15 AM on 08/21/2009
No need to twist this discussion up with the Health Care debate - the larger problem is the massive amount of dealer-financed loans associated with this program, mostly made to people who really don't need to strap on additional debt at this time.

That $4500 credit still needs a $15-$25,000 loan to complete the transaction, and the dealer-financing criteria only serve to set the interest rate - almost never to deny a loan.

"No Credit - No Problem" is stil the mantra - the objective is to get you into a car and get that car off the dealer's lot. What happens later is not the dealers problem - he still gets the sale and reduces his inventory.

So, if you have a tow truck you can be assured of good business for some time to come...
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09:44 AM on 08/21/2009
Total scam. O's way of paying back the union folk.
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PAposter
Radical Progressive
09:56 AM on 08/21/2009
...are union workers less deserving than corporate CEOs?
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rf dude
Just an average Man of Bronze
10:21 AM on 08/21/2009
Umm - no "union folk" involved here.

Those 1300 workers are mostly in call centers in Bangalore, not on a line making more cars...
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09:36 AM on 08/21/2009
Another quality run-by-the-government program ends. Maybe the Obama administration can use this program as an example of government run health care?

Oops - never mind!
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PAposter
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09:49 AM on 08/21/2009
Successful beyond expectation...yeah, I think the administration would go for that.

...and be better prepared next time for the overwhelming demand...like when people start flat canceling those ridiculous health insurance policies that are breaking their families.
10:02 AM on 08/21/2009
Chime back in when you finally climb out of the rabbit hole, Alice.

This program was run like a Bush-era FEMA operation.

Pitiful.

We should expect better performance from our government.
09:01 AM on 08/21/2009
Car prices to spike through Monday at 8pm
08:27 AM on 08/21/2009
Just wait until the Auto Dealers that sold cars complain about not getting their money.
If the Government runs it, it will fail one way or another.
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PAposter
Radical Progressive
08:33 AM on 08/21/2009
If the guvermint runz it....blah, blah, blah...
09:10 AM on 08/21/2009
Except for the fact only 2% of the money has been reimbursed to the dealers causing many of them to drop out of the program. Everything the government touches turns to sh*t.
08:38 AM on 08/21/2009
Hm, you gonna break it to all those soldiers that they're failures in your eyes?

What would raygun do?
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yemaya
09:08 AM on 08/21/2009
exactly, good point. What about schip and VA. You're seriously gonna tell me private industry's gonna do it better, riggghhhtt......Just like they've done w/our financial industry, car industry and health industry and every other thing they've sucked dry. They've sucked so bad at their own industries that the govt. which is US bailed them out. yeah, that govt. sure sucks....
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PAposter
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07:41 AM on 08/21/2009
Let's stop pretending the government is giving away cars...or that this program wasn't a huge success. When the government distributes my tax dollars, I want it to go to my fellow Americans, and a little back to me is cool too.
08:16 AM on 08/21/2009
Using your standards this was not a huge success. 4 of the 5 top selling models in this program were cars produced by non-american auto manufacturers. So much for fellow Americans.

"Ask not what your country can do for you...."
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PAposter
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08:17 AM on 08/21/2009
Were they built here?
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yemaya
09:09 AM on 08/21/2009
You can blame that on auto industry ceo's who for decades refused to make fuel efficient well made cars that americans actually WANT to buy and own. stop blaming the govt. for corporate failures.
12:23 PM on 08/21/2009
You're right. It was a huge success. That's why the Repugs are attacking it.
07:31 AM on 08/21/2009
This was another stimulus to the auto industry. The government paid them $3500 to 4500 to take your old car and destroy it. Most people bought foreign cars.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2009/08/clunkers-boosts-foreign-car-sales.html
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PAposter
Radical Progressive
07:47 AM on 08/21/2009
So what it helps the auto industry...funny how Americans want quality cars, but want the people tasked with making them safe, to work for less than they deserve. These same people however, will pay about $200 to take their kids to a sporting event, so that a millionaire can get paid.

While foreign auto companies profit from the sales of their cars in this country, we benefit from them being built here. Americans have always bought foreign cars, that's nothing new.
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yemaya
09:14 AM on 08/21/2009
good point corporate greed is the culprit here just like the financial industry.
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PaxEterna
07:24 AM on 08/21/2009
Rewarding all the wrong people who made bad choices . . .

Of course the car companies had no business making those cars in the first place.

What about those people who've held on to their Volvo or Suburu for 10 years or more?
08:01 AM on 08/21/2009
Or a Honda. That would make a good extension. $4500 to those who did the right thing and held an economy car that received over 25 miles per gallon for 10 years...

Sounds good.