The U.S. Postal Service: A Winning Model For Health Care?

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First Posted: 08-27-09 11:05 AM   |   Updated: 09-27-09 05:12 AM

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Health care reform opponents frequently deride government intervention by snarking, "Do you really want health care brought to you by the people who brought you 'Cash For Clunkers'?" My typical riposte is that the alternative is to have health care brought to you by the same people who brought us execrable institutions like Comcast, or Verizon, or -- hey! -- Cigna, the people who actually do bring me my health care, and who haven't a single person on staff capable of understanding that I was not born in September. True story!

But what about putting forth the U.S. Postal Service as a model? Well, the system is struggling financially and facing cutbacks in service, and there's no small amount of general public support for closing down branches -- until the public finds out it's their post office branch that's under the gun. Then, it's NIMBY war unleashed on the streets of America! As it turns out, people like the postal service. Even those folks schlepping out to Galt's Gulch want to get their Netflix on time.

But: the U.S. Postal Service as a model for health care? U.S. News and World Report's Rick Newman makes the case today on the paper's "Flow Chart" blog:

The Postal Service may not seem all that efficient, but it does one important thing pretty well: Transport a letter between any two addresses in the United States for less than a dollar, usually in three days or less. It's such a mundane task that we take it for granted. But if a private-sector firm wanted to compete across-the-board with the Postal Service, it would have to build a humongous infrastructure able to reach every household in America, six days a week. No company wants to do that.


Firms like FedEx and UPS compete with some of the services the Postal Service offers. That's because they've targeted parts of the delivery business that can be profitable if run efficiently. But they want nothing to do with universal mail delivery, which would be a guaranteed money-loser. Gee, that sounds a lot like insurance companies that want to cherry-pick the profitable parts of the healthcare business, offering care to healthy people with employers who can help pay the premiums while steering clear of people with costly problems or less money to spend.

During our last Sunday Morning liveblog, I speculated that it was the U.S. Postal Service rates and scope that helped keep the costs of private-sector mail and package delivery affordable. Well, not long after, I got an email from frequent Eat The Press contributor "The Anonymous Business Consultant," debunking my premise. Nevertheless, he was of the same mind as Newman on using the U.S. Postal Service as a model for health care reform:

The USPS has a government-awarded monopoly, and - I don't remember the exact numbers - but the monopoly basically consists of a law that nobody else can deliver a letter under 12 (ish) ounces for less than 12(ish) times the cost of a postage stamp. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the abolishment of that monopoly would lead to really, really cheap, and really, really awesome mail delivery - like 100% internet-trackable letters for 50 cents, courtesy of Fedex and UPS. Their 2-day prices are already set at the legal minimum, and I'm sure with enough volume they could go much, much lower and still make a profit.


So why do we continue to have the monopoly? Simple: Because along with the monopoly comes the legal mandate of universal coverage. Everybody in the US gets mail. Nearly all places get it six days a week (although there are places that are weekly). If the private sector were to take over mail delivery and be given access to the small/cheap mail market without a similar mandate, probably 20% of America would suddenly be unable to receive a letter at home.

The parallels with health care actually aren't bad. Right now, insurance companies get to pick and choose who they cover. If the law changes to force them to cover everybody, they will jack the prices up a lot to compensate. That is basically exactly what UPS and Fedex would do in a similar case, which is why somebody in an earlier, less stupid time came up with the idea of the Postal Service - the "public option" for sending stuff when the private sector can't/won't serve you.

The Postal Service's usefulness is probably running out, and there are severe problems with the model. The internet has made many of its core functions obsolete. And hey, if that happens in health care too, then great; maybe we can just download cures to diseases from Napster or something. But for now, I'd guess a public option is pretty important if you want to have universal health coverage and not have premiums shoot through the roof.

By the way! Do you want health care brought to you by the people who brought you Federal Express? In my experience, the answer is no -- unless of course you prefer your healthcare to be delivered, consistently, to the apartment building across the street.

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Health care reform opponents frequently deride government intervention by snarking, "Do you really want health care brought to you by the people who brought you 'Cash For Clunkers'?" My typical ripos...
Health care reform opponents frequently deride government intervention by snarking, "Do you really want health care brought to you by the people who brought you 'Cash For Clunkers'?" My typical ripos...
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- Dbos I'm a Fan of Dbos 26 fans permalink

Reagan bs government is bad,therefore private is better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 08/28/2009

Not too long ago I watched a congressional hearing on the PO and their financial problems. The President of the Postal Workers Union (I think, there are a couple unions) said that the reason the USPS is losing money is because of the $$$ subsidies that large companies get on their postage costs for sorting their own mail.

A job, he said, that the USPS is completely set up to handle but can't because private companies hire it out so that the company gets real (too) cheap postage. And the USPS countrywide sorting machinery sits idle or at least is not running at capacity.

(Ripoff.....GOP privatization of all govt entities so that govt looks inefficient and cronies make billions in govt $$$.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 08/28/2009
- Jaywalkker I'm a Fan of Jaywalkker 51 fans permalink
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"...the "public option" for sending stuff when the private sector can't/won't serve you."

Article1Sec8 - To establish Post Offices and Post Roads. Many have taken that to mean that its the government's role to provide mail. What is odd, is the call that universal coverage isn't Constitutional, which is fair. Then there's the call that the USPS is another example of government excess, control, and failure when its mandated by the Constitution, so shouldn't the Originalist be the most diehard advocate for the USPS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 08/27/2009

I have no complaints about the USPS..I think it is great. My experience is that it is efficient, affordable and their employees are usually very competent and helpful...and everyone can use it!!!!
Health insurance should be mandated, because one never knows what the future will bring..accident and sudden illnesses happen to everyone... but in order to be mandated, it must be affordable... or paid for with our taxes...I cannot understand why Americans want everything for free...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 08/27/2009

I am a letter carrier for the US Postal Service. A few observations:
The Postal Service's financial problems mostly have to do with pre-funding retiree health benefits, and the bad economy.
"As a result of the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006, the Postal Service is required to pre-fund retiree health benefits — costing the agency between $5.4 billion and $5.8 billion a year.
... In the third quarter ended June 30, the USPS reported mail volume dropped 14.3% over a year ago. Year-to-date, mail volume has fallen by nearly 20 billion pieces compared with the first three quarters of last year. This is the largest consecutive three-quarter drop in total volume since 1971." from http://www.dmnews.com/USPS-looks-for-legislative-relief-from-retiree-payments/article/141226/

The USPS is asking Congress to get rid of that pre-funding requirement. When the USPS seeks to raise prices it must submit the request to the postal Board of Governors who decide when and by how much. The USPS gets NO tax money. NONE.

Overall, the US mail is pretty cheap, pretty fast, and generally reliable. Not infallible, but nobody else is either. And the USPS isn't trying to gouge you so the CEO can bank another $100 million. Don't you wish your healthcare was like that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 08/27/2009

Great post, retired USPS here. I went to UPS one time, when I really thought I had a letter that HAD to get there overnight. The price, $24. I passed and stuck a 36 cent stamp on it and it got there in 2 days. I wish the president would quit demonizing USPS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 08/27/2009
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Similar experience here two T- shirts NY to Sydney Australia 5 day delivery UPS $37
USPS $10 they arrived in 3 days, thanks USPS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 08/27/2009
- greenwlu I'm a Fan of greenwlu 11 fans permalink

In the 2Q09, the Post Office lost $2.4B and they predict they will lose $7B this fiscal year.

And here's something else to keep in mind: UPS and FedEx are not allowed to compete with the post office in the delivery of first class mail. They aren't allowed to leave packages in mail boxes. And so it will be with government health care. You are delusional if you really think that the libs will allow the private sector to compete against government health care.

Facing lower volume, the USPS has proposed to increase the cost of postage in order to recover the losses. Only in the government sector would seek to raise costs while seeing lower demand.

And Jason - one more thing: Obama say that "UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. ... It's the Post Office that's always having problems."

Are you wrong, or is PrezBo wrong? I'd love a response.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 08/27/2009
- Jaywalkker I'm a Fan of Jaywalkker 51 fans permalink
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The USPS is losing profits for the same reason as newspapers and magazines - the internet. I think it still runs great. I think the USPS comparison is good, you aren't getting an MRI through the internet or a kidney transplant via fax. The USPS though, is fighting less mail being sent due to all the obvious ways electronic links facilitate communications.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 08/27/2009
- greenwlu I'm a Fan of greenwlu 11 fans permalink

Your premise is wrong. Newspapers and internet sites are losing money due to declines in advertising. The USPS is losing money due to inefficiency and lower volume. It is not the taxpayers' duty to recoup the losses of the USPS.

When did anyone ship a kidney via the USPS? They are mostly flown on private jets to the one receiving the transplant.

You think the USPS runs great? If any company claimed a $7B loss in FY09, would you agree that they ran the company well??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 08/27/2009
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Innovation spawn by fiscal losses garners solution for the post office to (get this) LIMIT CUSTOMER SERVICE by reducing delivery days.

HA HA HA Why don't they just close it down to 1 day/week then they will show us how superior gubberment is to the private sector. They will be rolling in profits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 08/27/2009

Don't let healthcare go Postal!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 08/27/2009

sometimes, USPS outsources to UPS/FEDEX/DHL, but the reverse never takes place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 08/27/2009
- themuse I'm a Fan of themuse 5 fans permalink

I don't think that's true. I recently received a package that originated as UPS and they passed it on to USPS. The transaction was definitely UPS to USPS. They probably have an agreement to work it both ways.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 08/27/2009
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Actually, I believe the USPS does allow mail to be transported by UPS/FEDEX planes, but once it arrives in the state/country destination delivery is handled by the USPS. Fedex and UPS and DHL do use the USPS to deliver some of their packages on it's final destination...the consumer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 08/27/2009

Oh my! It's a nightmare if we were to have monopoly AND mandatory health insurance! That is to say to the culpit of high- priced insurance "you have been racking up the price with your high profits and now we award you for that with ALL people have to insure with you"! What kind of logic is that? We have 50 million un-insured people due to the high costs that we all should know included 30-47% of profits and administrative costs even though the self-employed like myself, who can't afford our own health insurance, have been subsidized other people who got jobs and health care paid by their companies or the government. That is bad enough that is why I want everyone to pay in the affordable public option. To say I have to pay for the monopoly, meaning without the public option, anyway is enough for me to begin to get stomach cancer!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 08/27/2009
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I can't tell what side you're on, because I couldn't understand what you just wrote. So I'll ask you a question, to clarify:

Was Barack Obama born in Hawaii?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 08/27/2009
- StacyM I'm a Fan of StacyM 24 fans permalink
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I'm thinking "justobserve" has mastered the art of sarcasm to such an extent that even novice sarcastics like us can't grasp the subtleties. That said, I'm pretty sure "justobserve" is pro-reform. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 08/27/2009
- gabemill I'm a Fan of gabemill 25 fans permalink

18% of the rushlicans don't even know Hawaii is a state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 08/27/2009
- eirrac I'm a Fan of eirrac 12 fans permalink
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I sell online, and my Canadian customers say they do not want me to send items to them by UPS or FedEx, because those two tack on some hefty extra costs when they have to deliver over the border. So, I send the items by USPS, and there are no problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 08/27/2009
- wilder5121 I'm a Fan of wilder5121 5 fans permalink

If it weren''t for USPS, sending a letter would cost $2.50...not 44 cents. USPS is one of the best bargains left in America...like the Internet. The Republicans want to privatize and deregulate everything...make everything like one of their biggest campaign cash supporters, that model of private enterprise called Enron.

Let Republicans get into power again and watch the Internet itself go private. You'll be paying a dollar every time you send an email. Only thing that's a bigger failure than "government programs" is the Republican deregulated free market theory, a failure every time...destroys our economy every time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 08/27/2009

Please explain your proof that mailing something would cost that much.

As it stands, it is cheaper for me to mail my business packages with UPS or FedEx than USPS, with very few exceptions. And I get better service on top of that.

Do you know why the USPS can deliver mail? Because it is a government program that has had many, many years and a huge budget to set up shop in various areas. If you gave any private enterprise the same time and resources to accomplish the same, the USPS would be out of business. Look what FedEx and UPS have been able to accomplish. If the USPS was such a good deal, they would not be around, simple as that.

Name one area where government and a private entity can have the same budget and same time to establish a service where the government can do it more efficiently and reduce costs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 08/27/2009
- gabemill I'm a Fan of gabemill 25 fans permalink


Did you read the article?. The USPS was established to benefit the American people, not to be a money making endeavor. Yes, where the private sector can improve service, there is a niche opportunit­y....witne­ss UPS and Fed X. What are you suggesting? Do we give you the same monetary commitment the USPS received so that you can compete against them? I trade the markets everyday. The BS notion that the private sector can always outperform the government is Reaganite nonsense. Europe has proved this for many years in improving the health of their citizens with universal health care, and at a fraction of the cost paid in the US. If you want to pay more than a latte at Starbucks to have a letter delivered, then you might want to consider Bangladesh as a new residence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 08/27/2009

Key words in your reply = "my business".

The USPS is here for the American people at large and not your business in particular.

The USPS is not and should not be the catch all, cheapest shipping solution for any and every circumstance.

If UPS and FEDEX work better for your unique circumstance, then use them.

But lets see them get a letter across the country for you for 44 cents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 08/27/2009
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317 years...can you imagine how backwards our country would be if we didn't have the capacity to send mail over the last three centuries? Of course, your ilk seem to want to go back to the good ol' days of wife beating and slavery so it figures that you'd disparage a service that has done so much for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 08/27/2009
- 1sparrow I'm a Fan of 1sparrow 20 fans permalink

the postal service was without a doubt the most repressive top management heavy and repulsive organization i have ever been employed by. i joined to avoid the draft in this insane country. i left to keep my sanity. i left in 1984.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 08/27/2009
- AxelDC I'm a Fan of AxelDC 74 fans permalink
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Everyone hates the govt in theory, but loves it in practice. If everyone were as antigovt as Ronnie Raygun liked to pretend, we would have returned DC back to Maryland by now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 08/27/2009

Exactly! Even the congressmen who opposed the public option ingored the irony! They are themselves the face of government!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 08/27/2009
- rf-hawaii I'm a Fan of rf-hawaii 18 fans permalink

The general distaste for government is something incessantly fostered by the Republicans.

It's like our general dislike of unions. They do good things for the middle class in general, but Republicans have convinced us to dislike them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 AM on 08/28/2009
- katooom I'm a Fan of katooom 18 fans permalink
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"The U.S. Postal Service: A Winning Model For Health Care?"

This is a joke, right? April fools day?

USPS $7B in debt year after year after year. Yeah, THATS a good model.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 08/27/2009

It is absurd to look at the USPS as a for profit business.

It is a branch of service of the US government, no different than the military.

It should be funded as much as needed to do its job.

This idea of debt for the USPS is silly.

How much in "debt" is the Army, Air Force and Navy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 08/27/2009
- katooom I'm a Fan of katooom 18 fans permalink
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Apples and oranges. Defense spending is strictly for a service much like law enforcement and fire department. (btw, I would like to see defense spending halved. Way way way too much waste fighting futile wars of choice)

The USPS charges to deliver a letter or package, just like UPS and FedEx. They should at least be able to carry their own weight. Their business model - much like AMTRAK - is totally flawed. Way too many (labor) costs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 08/27/2009
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Well put, friend. It's incredible how quickly conservatives refer to the profit motive as a benchmark, when they want to utterly diregard gigantic holes in their theories.

Example: can you imagine the conservative reaction if Obama publicly decided to abandon all American military landmine victims in Afghanistan as "unprofitable", and therefore, "socialistic soldiers"? After all, many landmines are designed to MAIM enemy troops, and not KILL them, so that the opposing nation has to spend more money fixing people than burying them.

Hell, why don't we just plow over Arlington Cemetary, build a casino, and put Ted Kennedy in the compost bin? We'd "save" zillions! USA!USA!USA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 08/27/2009

I see. The USPS cannot run itself efficiently on a budget, so we should not consider them in "debt" because they don't operate for a profit. Simply increase the budget and their inefficiency and wham-o! Makes perfect sense to me.

If they were not meant to run for any profit, then there services would be free. I suppose when the USPS used to run efficiently and made a profit, that extra money was immediately sent elsewhere? Nope.

Where I grew up, we had a post office that was pretty far away and there was a big push to continue to use the other local offices in greater amounts so earned money could be put back into expansion because of a PROFIT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 08/27/2009
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Not to mention that they'd be doing much better if they didn't have to subsidize mass mailings...aka junk mail. Of course the internet has also changed the dynamic drastically, but the fact of the matter is that they've provided an invaluable service to Americans for the last 3 centuries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 08/27/2009
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