Hamas Leader Denies Holocaust, Objects To UN Plan To Teach Gaza Children About Holocaust

DIAA HADID | 08/31/09 02:54 PM | AP

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GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip — A Hamas spiritual leader on Monday called teaching Palestinian children about the Nazi murder of 6 million Jews a "war crime," rejecting a suggestion that the U.N. might include the Holocaust in Gaza's school curriculum.

A senior Israeli official said such statements should make the West think twice about ending its boycott of Hamas, in place since the group seized Gaza by force in 2007. Israeli officials called the comments as "obscene" and said they place Hamas in a pariah club of Holocaust deniers that includes Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Hamas spiritual leader Younis al-Astal lashed out after hearing that the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, the main U.N. body aiding Palestinian refugees, planned to introduce lessons about the Holocaust to Gaza students.

Adding the Holocaust to the curriculum would amount to "marketing a lie and spreading it," al-Astal wrote in a statement.

"I do not exaggerate when I say this issue is a war crime, because of how it serves the Zionist colonizers and deals with their hypocrisy and lies," he wrote.

A U.N. official said no decision has been made about introducing Holocaust education in Gaza.

Many Palestinians are reluctant to acknowledge Jewish suffering, fearing it might diminish their own. Attitudes toward the Holocaust range from outright denial to challenging its scope.

Hamas has been making overtures to the West, hoping to end a stifling blockade of Gaza. And the statements about the Holocaust by senior Hamas officials could undermine the group's attempt to present itself as pragmatic. The U.S. and Europe list Hamas as a terror group, but there have been growing calls, particularly in Europe, to talk to the militants. Hamas control of Gaza is seen as a key obstacle to any Mideast peace deal.

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Three teachers at U.N. schools said that according to the new program, basic information about the Holocaust was expected to be taught to eighth grade students as part of human rights classes.

Two of the teachers said they were told about the lesson plan by colleagues involved in the new syllabus. Another teacher said he attended a recent meeting with education officials where he was told to try to teach the new syllabus without offending parents' sensibilities.

All three said they had not received the syllabus for the human rights classes yet, even though the school year began in late August. They requested anonymity because they are not allowed to speak to reporters.

UNRWA provides education, health care and welfare services to more than half of Gaza's 1.4 million people. Spokesman Chris Gunness said a final decision has not been made about the Holocaust course for Gaza schools.

"While the Holocaust is currently not included on the basis of age appropriateness, all elements (of the curriculum) remain under review and under evolution," he said.

Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri also objected to including what he referred to as the "so-called Holocaust" in the lesson plan. "We think it's more important to teach Palestinians the crimes of the Israeli occupation," he said.

Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said countries contemplating ending their boycott of Hamas must "seriously reconsider" after the Hamas statements, which he described as "obscene."

The Holocaust is not taught in West Bank schools, said an education ministry official in Western-backed President Mahmoud Abbas' government.

Israelis have long complained that Palestinian textbooks present Israel only as an enemy, despite a series of interim peace deals. Also, they charge that maps in the books do not show Israel at all.

Palestinians make similar charges about Israeli education. Recently Israel's education minister ordered a halt to using the accepted Arabic term "nakba," or catastrophe, to describe the results of the two-year war that followed Israel's creation, when about 700,000 Palestinians fled or were forced from their homes.

The U.N. runs 221 schools in Gaza for more than 200,000 students and is the largest independent agency in the territory, controlled by Hamas since a violent takeover in 2007. The West Bank, the other territory that is supposed to comprise a future Palestinian state, is controlled by Hamas' Western-backed rivals of the Fatah movement, led by President Mahmoud Abbas.

Some 6 million Jews were killed in the Nazi campaign to wipe out European Jewry, and the urgent need to find a sanctuary for hundreds of thousands of survivors contributed to the creation of Israel after World War II.

Many Palestinians are reluctant to acknowledge the full extent of the Holocaust because they feel it provided legitimacy for Israel's establishment. A majority of Gaza's 1.4 million people are Palestinian refugees or their descendants.

Some parents opposed the idea of their children learning about the Holocaust. "I don't want them teaching my children Jewish lies," Mohammed Silmi, 33, said Monday, after driving his son to a U.N. school in Gaza City on the back of a motorbike. "It will just be Zionist propaganda."

Hamas' founding charter calls for Israel's destruction, though senior Hamas officials have recently said they would accept a Palestinian state alongside Israel as an interim stage to full Islamic control of the region.

Hamas is frequently at loggerheads with the U.N. refugee agency, which it considers the only serious challenge to its control of Gaza. Over the summer, Hamas accused the U.N. of spreading "immorality" in summer camps for children, because it offered activities such as folk dancing and crafts.

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With additional reporting by Rizek Abdul Jawad in Gaza City

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip — A Hamas spiritual leader on Monday called teaching Palestinian children about the Nazi murder of 6 million Jews a "war crime," rejecting a suggestion that the U.N. might ...
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- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 105 fans permalink
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Palestinian kids don't need to be taught it; they're living it. There's a really good reason why IDF officers planning the Israeli 2002 attack on the Jenin Refugee camp closely studied the tactics used in the Waffen SS assault on the Warsaw Ghetto, and that's because the conditions were so similar. Apart from the actual death camps*, which Israel has never come close to replicating, life in the Israeli-occupied west bank and nazi-occupied Warsaw are very similar.

Palestinians don't have to wear yellow stars, but they do have to have distinctive license plates on their cars, and to stay off the 'Israelis only' roads and highways.

Yes, it's rude to refuse to teach the Holocaust to Palestinian children, but considering the conditions they're living under, Israel's demand that they do so adds insult to the injury of living under occupation. Even for the nation that invented chutzpah.

*A very significant difference, I note, but not the whole story. There are also a number of disturbingly close parallels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 10/14/2009
- Ithamer I'm a Fan of Ithamer 3 fans permalink

The Second Works War Holocaust killed somewhere between 20/40 million people either directly or indirectly most of which were fine human beings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 09/02/2009
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Genocide:
Poland:
1939--Jewish population 3,000,000+
1950--- Jewish population---50,000.
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Gaza
One of the hiughest population growth in thew world.,
1948-- Arab poopulation----- 300,000
2009 Arab population ---------- 1,400,000
Genocide--a factual impossiblity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 09/01/2009
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So Gaza should be expanded "for natural growth," right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 09/02/2009
- Hank007 I'm a Fan of Hank007 93 fans permalink

So Palestinians should be taught what happened to the Jews was a 'holocaust', but what is happening to them is not? The Germans sought to exterminate the Jews, gypsys, gays and many other groups. The Jews have been working to exterminate the palestinians since 1948, according to Ben Gurion, Sharon, Bib et al. Will the UN suggest that Israelis learn Zionism is racist, and theocracy ridiculous? No.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 09/01/2009
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1.re."So Palestinians should be taught what happened to the Jews was a 'holocaust', but what is happening to them is not?
Eh?? How does this make any sense?
Palestinains are very well aware of whars happening to them. To the exclusion of everything else, I don't mind if they ignore the whole sordid WW2 altogether. But just stop teaching pernicious lies about Jewish experience. That's all, We'll go with diminished expectations.

2. re."The Jews have been working to exterminate the palestinians since 1948"
This is a lie whcih simply doesn't conform to reality
Fact: 20 % of Israeli ciitziens are former Palestinians. Their population is increasing.They treasure their Israeli citizenship!
Fact:Palestinains in Disputed Territories are experiencing astonishing population gains,
Opinion:I ASSURE you that if Israel wanted to exile or exterminate Palestinains there would be no more than a few villages left by now. As soon as Palestinains give up their genocidal ambitions against Israel ( read Hamas Charter, PLO Charter) they will have a state. Not before..

You can spin whaever web of lies you want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 09/02/2009

Coming from you, that last line: Priceless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 09/03/2009

Amazing how ignorant ppl can be, I used to think with education comes common sense and ability to see right from wrong. The Palestinians have been suffering for the better part of the last century, they're homes were taken, innocent civilians killed time and time again (watch Israeli movie , "Waltz with Bashir").
Can anyone tell me why Israel is a nuclear country but officially does not confirm it? Why?
Can anyone tell me why Israel continues to build settlements in areas that were taken during the war?(Illegal under UN)
Can anyone tell me why Israel has the most powerful lobby group in the USA?

Wake up ppl, your lack of knowledge or total disregard for the most important points is downright disgrace. This is not a liberal or conservative issue, its a human issue. Ask yourself, what if your home was taken and then your life was surrounded by a wall?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 09/01/2009
- courtb I'm a Fan of courtb 23 fans permalink

Israel does not have the most powerful lobby group in the US by any measure. The largest and most powerful lobbies fluctuate between the AARP and NRA.

You are right. This is not a liberal or conservative issue...it's a human issue. Ask yourself, what if your home was bombed and your country was surrounded by enemies who promote not just hatred against Israelis but Jews everywhere? Both sides have grievances which is why the HUMAN issue should be not to point fingers but to find a solution to protect both Israeli and Palestinian issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 09/01/2009
- DeniseA I'm a Fan of DeniseA 8 fans permalink

The Palestinians worst enemy is their own leadership and people committing acts of terrorism.

The formation of Israel did not steal anyone's land. Jews are native to the Middle East too, and they were the majority in the land that was partitioned to become Israel back in 1948. The Israelis allowed Arabs who wanted to stay become citizens of Israel.

This is not about land; it's about Arabs not being willing to have Jews living amongst them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 09/01/2009
- Spencaa I'm a Fan of Spencaa 13 fans permalink

The UN in NO WAY should teach anyone if they are going to be forced to deny things like this!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 09/01/2009
- DD1Prime I'm a Fan of DD1Prime 5 fans permalink

Denying reality does not strengthen the ability to control one's own destiny - it weakens it. The Palestinians live in a fairy-tale world where they can do no wrong (therefore can commit any crime and get away with it) and Israel can do no good (even while supplying all the power and water essentially for free to their enemies).

Hamas is a classic case of "inmates running the asylum." If they aspire to be part of a Palestinian State, revisionist histories and lobbing missiles at their neighbors is not how to accomplish it. If they only aspire to martyrdom, and taking down everyone they can with them, they are well on their way to that goal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 09/01/2009

Clearly Hamas is an enemy which will never surrender, never negotiate, and never budge on anything, regardless of the facts. Israel should eliminate them completely next time Hamas starts a war. Israel will be condemned no matter what it does, so they might as well get rid of Hamas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 09/01/2009
- CarlyHope I'm a Fan of CarlyHope 16 fans permalink

that's what "we won't ever surrender " means

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 09/01/2009
- MIKEinNYC I'm a Fan of MIKEinNYC 69 fans permalink
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When you come right down to it the Germans caused problems for the Jews and the Palestinians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 09/01/2009
- mikep I'm a Fan of mikep 11 fans permalink

What did the Germans have to do with the Nakba, and the illegal expulsion of over 800,000 Jews from their long-established homes in north Africa, Iraq and the rest of the middle east? Absolutely nothing. It was pure anti-semitism.

Genocide is when one country takes actions that cause another nation or people's population to be reduced. The Palestinian population began growing rapidly after the Zionists showed up in the mid-19th century and has been growing ever since, and is growing now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 09/01/2009
- CarlyHope I'm a Fan of CarlyHope 16 fans permalink

umm. actually that's not what Genocide means

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 09/01/2009
- MIKEinNYC I'm a Fan of MIKEinNYC 69 fans permalink
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If the Germans had not persecuted the Jews the UN, after World War 2, would not have been pressed to find a place for the Jews to live in peace. Common sense at that time suggested that Jews be resettled in their ancestral homeland, where many Jews already resided.

Unfortunately, as an unintended consequence, many Palestinians for a variety of reasons, lost their property. Some Palestinians fled. Some were evicted.

In any event, the Middle East problem, in essence, was caused by the United Nations which has not taken responsibility for what it did. The UN has made life miserable in the region for both the evicted Palestinians and the Jews who have not had a day of peace in 60 years. The Palestinians justifiably harbor resentment as to the injustice that was done to them.

If this was a house and nothing worked right you'd go back to the builder to demand that it be fixed.

How to fix things? The UN should resolve this problem by offering compensation to the Palestinians who lost property in exchange for a Release of Claims. Palestinians will take their cash and buy property anywhere they choose. Even in Israel. They should not have to live in squalor.

You just cannot take someone's property for no compensation and expect the victim to grin and bear it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 09/01/2009
- stpmdn I'm a Fan of stpmdn 5 fans permalink

come on. So what you're saying since palastinien population is growing then what Israel is doing to them is ok? You're logic is not much different than hamas logic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 09/01/2009
- bbrecht I'm a Fan of bbrecht 22 fans permalink
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Sigh. All such genocides should be remembered. Including the slow death that is happening in Gaza. We are watching a type of genocide and the doers of wrong want us to boycott the victims because the victims do not acknowledge the suffering of their perpetrators. What is wrong with this picture?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 09/01/2009
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 64 fans permalink

thank you bbrecht . . . excellent blog and sadly so true

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 09/01/2009
- Spencaa I'm a Fan of Spencaa 13 fans permalink

It isn't a 'Genocide'. None of you people even understand the term apparently

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 09/01/2009
- baffy I'm a Fan of baffy 28 fans permalink

Israel will either try to control every aspect of the Palestinians lives or it will expel them to who knows where or it will, I hate to say, attempt to eliminate them (a thought that was amazingly suggested in an earlier post).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 09/01/2009
- Aziat I'm a Fan of Aziat 17 fans permalink
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and this is with whom Israel needs to make peace? Where is the left denouncing this antisemitism? I'm sure the liberal spin doctors will somehow manage to make this Israel's fault yet again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 09/01/2009

Most of the false and misleading criticism and spin comes from Muslim conservatives, not from liberals. Liberals tend to look at facts more often than conservatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 09/01/2009

That piece of erudition left me breathless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 09/03/2009
- baffy I'm a Fan of baffy 28 fans permalink

Of course it is Israel's fault. It has been occupying and oppressing the Palestinians for over 40 years. Do you really expect Palestinian religious leaders to teach tolerance and sympathy? Look at the religious Jews/settlers ans listen to the venom they spout toward the Palestinians. Are they the example to follow.

Israel is in control and it is up to it to offer an olive branch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 09/01/2009
- courtb I'm a Fan of courtb 23 fans permalink

Gandhi did, did he not? Martin Luther King, Jr? The leaders that are revered and who actually accomplish their goals oftentimes accomplish it through messages of tolerance and peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 09/01/2009
- lastpost I'm a Fan of lastpost 34 fans permalink

“Israeli officials called the comments "obscene"”

As “obscene” as adopting those tactics for use against other nationals?

Ultimately, they didn’t work for the Romans. They didn’t work for the Germans either. Hoping for third time lucky, are we?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 09/01/2009

Israel's not perpetrating genocide against the Palestinians, and your insinuation that it is doesn't help the situation. Why not just say you support Hamas's position?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 09/01/2009
- GO-BAMA I'm a Fan of GO-BAMA 14 fans permalink

Thanks to people like lastpost and others who shamelessly redefine words they do not fully understand, the word "genocide" is soon going to be defined much like the terms "socialism" and "fascism" ... meaningless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 09/01/2009
- stpmdn I'm a Fan of stpmdn 5 fans permalink

ok so they are not perpertrating genecide. But they have killed thousands of women and children and have kept millions in refugee camp not much different than the ghettos in poland. The Gaza strip is basically a ghetto

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 09/01/2009
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 64 fans permalink

this is so unfair to the Palestinians . . . the problem is the fact that israel repeatedly breaks international law . . that they steal water and land and they hide under the umbrella of the holocaust . . . it sounds like they are trying to make the holocaust justification for what the zionists are doing to the Palestinians now . . . and that is just very disturbing because it is untrue

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 09/01/2009
- CarlyHope I'm a Fan of CarlyHope 16 fans permalink

Maybe its more like........

if we each understand each others positions and history, both learn holocaust, nahkba, 67, 72, ect. we might be more abl e to understan d each otehr which would help us negotiate peace .

how unfair..........................not

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 09/01/2009
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uhhhm sooo why did they all start moving to Israel at the same time then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 09/01/2009

Uhhhm...They didn't! read a history book! Put down that Mad Magazine Your comment shows a high deficiency in the facts and the history of the Jewish people! Uhhhm!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 09/01/2009
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 239 fans permalink
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Unbelievable, isn't it!?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 09/01/2009
- baffy I'm a Fan of baffy 28 fans permalink

You mean the FACT that the Jews have not been a majority in Palestine for 700 years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 09/01/2009
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so there wasnt a large influx of jewish immigrants and refuges starting in 1945?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 09/01/2009
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well Wikipedia isnt mad magazine but maybe it will have to do?

"The rise of Nazism in the 1930s led to the Fifth Aliyah, with an influx of a quarter of a million Jews. This caused the Arab revolt of 1936–1939 and led the British to cap immigration with the White Paper of 1939. With countries around the world turning away Jewish refugees fleeing the Holocaust, a clandestine movement known as Aliyah Bet was organized to bring Jews to Palestine.[41] By the end of World War II, Jews accounted for 33% of the population of Palestine, up from 11% in 1922.[52][53]"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 09/01/2009
- yankees I'm a Fan of yankees 22 fans permalink

As time goes by we'll see more and more of this as the survivors and the first generation will be gone. Todays Jewish kids can't grasp the meaning of the Holocaust as they hear it from their grandparents. We know how any discussions with grandparents go, in one ear and out the other, can't be bothered, etc.
That is why the Holocaust Museums are so important, not just for Jews but for the rest of society.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 09/01/2009

One trip to Yad Vashem (holocaust Memorial-Museum) in Israel will jar the minds of any Israeli kid ..very quickly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 09/01/2009

The one in DC will have the same effect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 09/01/2009
- stpmdn I'm a Fan of stpmdn 5 fans permalink

One note. Stalin killed over 10 million ukrainians during world war II. Where is their musuem?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 09/01/2009
- yankees I'm a Fan of yankees 22 fans permalink

Deep within the Heart Of Russia, who still execute people to this day but the World is too afraid to dig up the facts because we might upset them and their oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 09/01/2009
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