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CHARLES BABINGTON   09/ 3/09 12:45 AM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama will deliver a major prime-time health care address to Congress next week, opening an urgent autumn push to gain control of the debate that has been slipping from his grasp under withering Republican-led attacks.

Scheduling of the speech next Wednesday night, just a day after lawmakers return from their August recess, underscores the determination of the White House to confront critics of Obama's overhaul proposals and to buck up supporters who have been thrown on the defensive. Allies have been urging the president to be more specific about his plans and to take a greater role in the debate, and aides have signaled he will do that in the address to a joint session of Congress in the House chamber.

The speech's timing also suggests that top Democrats have all but given up hope for a bipartisan breakthrough by Senate Finance Committee negotiators. The White House had given those six lawmakers until Sept. 15 to draft a plan, but next week's speech comes well ahead of that deadline.

It follows an August recess in which critics of Obama's health proposals dominated many public forums. Approval ratings for Obama, and for his health care proposals, dropped during the month.

White House senior adviser David Axelrod told reporters Wednesday, "We believe this is the best way to kick off the final discussions, the final debate, and bring this thing to a close in a way that is meaningful."

Listeners to Obama's speech will have "a clear sense of what he proposes and what health care reform is not," Axelrod said. He declined to offer details of what the president might discuss.

Axelrod said earlier that all the key ideas for revising health care are "on the table," suggesting that Obama will not offer major new proposals.

But he may talk more specifically about his top priorities, and perhaps add details to pending plans, to save a high-profile initiative whose defeat would deliver a huge blow to his young presidency.

Many advocates of sweeping health care changes – which would include health coverage for virtually every American, greater competition among insurers and incentives to increase the quality of care instead of the number of medical procedures performed – welcomed the president's more direct role. Obama and congressional Democrats clearly lost momentum during the August recess, they say, and the president's high profile and still-considerable personal popularity are needed to change the dynamic.

"He's got to get into the nitty-gritty and embrace very concrete proposals," said Ralph Neas, head of the National Coalition on Health Care.

Richard Kirsch, national campaign manager for the liberal advocacy group Health Care for America Now, said, "It's really clear they understand they have to provide more presidential leadership, more presidential direction."

Kirsch said Obama doesn't have to provide legislative language, but he must detail "the contours of the reform he needs."

It's far from clear that Obama's speech will satisfy grumbling liberals. For instance, he consistently has refused to insist on a government-run program to compete with private health insurers, a top goal of liberals, even though he says he prefers such an option.

Axelrod called the public option important, but stopped short of saying it was essential to a final bill.

Several lawmakers say Obama must convincingly show that he can reduce the cost of pending health care plans. Nonpartisan budget officials have said Obama's proposals could increase the federal deficit by about $1 trillion over the next decade.

Neas said billions of dollars can be saved by changing health payment practices to discourage unnecessary procedures. He also said insurance and pharmaceutical companies should be required to offer more savings to the nation's health care system because they will benefit from millions of new customers if greater coverage of Americans is mandated.

Such demands could be awkward for Obama. He has praised those industries for the cost reductions – worth tens of billions of dollars over the next decade – they already have pledged to make.

Before Obama's speech to Congress was announced, the Republicans' top negotiator on health care indicated Wednesday that bipartisan talks would continue despite White House suggestions that he and another GOP bargainer have not acted in good faith.

Jill Kozeny, a spokeswoman for Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, said the accusations were unjustified. She said Grassley and the five other Senate Finance Committee members – half Republicans, half Democrats – will hold their scheduled conference call Friday to try again to reach common ground on a health care bill that could win broad support in the full Senate.

Axelrod on Tuesday suggested that Grassley and Sen. Mike Enzi, R-Wyo., have not acted in good faith because they sharply criticized Democratic plans during the August recess.

Kozeny said Wednesday: "Attacks by political operatives in the White House undermine bipartisan efforts and drive senators away from the table."

Enzi spokeswoman Elly Pickett said of her boss: "Repeating that you don't agree with plans put together solely by one side doesn't mean you aren't willing to work together on a different plan. He is."

Axelrod had kind words for the third GOP Senate negotiator, Olympia Snowe of Maine. Many lawmakers see her as the likeliest possible Republican senator to support a major health care package if a true bipartisan accord can't be reached.

Obama "has a high regard for her," Axelrod said. "She's made a good faith effort to try and find common ground."

In one measure of the intense opposition Obama and his allies faced this summer, opponents of the Democratic effort outspent supporters on television commercials in August for the first time this year, according to a firm that monitors political advertising.

Foes of the Democratic drive spent $12.1 million last month, compared with $9.1 million for backers of the effort, according to Evan Tracey, president of the Campaign Media Analysis Group in Arlington, Va. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and several conservative groups were the biggest advertisers against the health care overhaul, while the drug industry, labor and AARP spent the most on the effort's behalf.

Republicans and groups opposed to Democratic health care proposals have vowed to keep up the fight. A few hours before the president's speech on Wednesday, activists will present lawmakers with stacks of petitions opposing "government-run health care." The event is sponsored by the conservative National Center for Policy Analysis and Salem Radio Network

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Associated Press writers Alan Fram and Ben Feller in Washington, Mike Glover in Iowa, and Mead Gruver in Wyoming contributed to this report.

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03:16 PM on 09/03/2009
The Republican­s have decided to go for broke her, and bet everything on stopping all health care reform. Obama has no choice but to do the same, or lose the chance to pass any reforms for a generation­.
09:34 AM on 09/03/2009
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Share Print CommentsRe­p. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), who recently said that health care opponents needed to defeat health care reform with "prayer and fasting," is now asking for blood.

"What we have to do today is make a covenant, to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing. This will not pass. We will do whatever it takes to make sure this doesn't pass," she said in a speech at a Denver, Colorado fundraiser Monday.
09:01 AM on 09/03/2009
We have to have congress vote on a bill that includes a public option. If it does not pass then we will know who the real villains are! We elected a president because of this and elected a majority in the house and senate because we wanted health care reform. If it does not pass we will know for sure who is against the people of this country and who are for corporatio­ns and the wealthy. If we pass a watered down bill all that will happen is that the republican­s will somehow take over again in 2010 and 2012 and God help us then. When is this country going to finally stand up for its people and not the special interests they cater to all the time. Enough is enough. Put a strong bill out there to be voted on and lets see who really cares about what is best for our country, Single payer now so we can take the profit out of providing health care!
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12:39 PM on 09/03/2009
I totally agree!!!! It may not seem like it, but Republican­s are on the ropes of public opinion and all the efforts of the MSM won't help them if their effort is exposed for the corruption and outright larceny that it is. Many Dems need to take a fall also if we are to survive this crisis as a civilized nation. Put up a good bill for a vote and let the chips fall where they may.
07:33 AM on 09/03/2009
I thought it has already been establishe­d that the republican­’s intention was to stop the whole HCR process? I don't understand why the administra­tion keeps reaching out to them. The msm in the meantime is starting to insinuate that the public option might be deep sixed in order for the white house to pass a bill this year. The thinking is to attempt to bring one on line at a later date. In English, if we don’t get behind the White house plan we will become the villains because the president needs to pass a bill, any bill to save his administra­tions biggest agenda.

If the PO is defeated the Reps, pharmaceut­ical and the insurance companies have won. if the liberal caucus refuses to cave in, then the “left of the left” are the villains …. Interestin­g game of chess going on here….
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11:36 AM on 09/03/2009
There is an option that you haven't examined here. If Democrats draw a line in the sand over the PO then the bill will either succeed or fail with no watered down and ineffectiv­e bill to simply allow Obama to say he passed a bill. This would force Republican­s to "OWN" the status quo, which we know is unpopular and guaranteed to blow up in their face in the coming years. The Republican­s are obviously in favor of "NO BILL", so if we can't at least get PO lets give them their wish and hold their feet to the fire by never letting America forget who killed it. This may be a path to killing the Republican party as it is now, which is a greater threat to America than a defunct health care system.
12:36 AM on 09/03/2009
Boston "Health Care Can't Wait" Rally--Sep­t. 7

Time: Monday, September 7 from 11:00 AM - 1:00 PM
Hosts: Health Care for America Now, OFA
Location: Park Square (Boston, MA)
Intersecti­on of Columbus Ave. and Arlington St.

http://hea­lthcarefor­americanow­.org/page/­event/deta­il/letsget­itdone/4jr­z3
http://my.­barackobam­a.com/page­/event/det­ail/gpkgbf
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CTtransplant
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12:44 AM on 09/03/2009
Thanks for the update!
01:25 AM on 09/03/2009
I've been inspired by all your posts! :o)
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JackRusselTerrier
sniff out the truth and chew on facts
11:10 PM on 09/02/2009
From article above...
Grassley also said insurance and pharmaceut­ical companies should be required to offer more savings to the nation's health care system because they will benefit from millions of new customers if greater coverage of Americans is mandated.

This is the crux of the problem with the "negotiati­ons" so far.

The question we should all be asking is why we need a for profit health insurance system at all. The plain truth is that for profit health insurance is skimming money that could be put towards health care. Grassley and others are trying to keep this system in place.

We do not want a watered down bill such as HR 3200 that is written by and for private insurance companies, big pharma, and corporate health care.

Read HR 676. http://hr6­76.org/
Even if you think it cannot pass and your hopes are on a strong public option, your goal will not be achieved by negotiatin­g from the middle.

We must push_ for a single payer system if we are to get a good bill in the end. Please sign this petition. http://www­.gopetitio­n.com/peti­tions/peti­tion-congr­ess-to-pas­s-single-p­ayer-hr-67­6-national­-health-in­surance.ht­ml
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CTtransplant
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we gro
12:12 AM on 09/03/2009
Already done! Great stuff!
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CTtransplant
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01:09 AM on 09/03/2009
JRT, Hope you don't mind...att­ached link to my posts, too!
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JackRusselTerrier
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02:18 AM on 09/03/2009
Not at all. If I ever post a link, re-post it any time you want.
10:48 PM on 09/02/2009
Who the heck won the election?F­rom the way the republican­s are behaving you would think John McCain is president and they have the majorities in both the house and senate.Eve­ryday President Obama is dropping something from health care reform to please the people that want to see him fail,for the sake of bipartisan­ship.Presi­dent Bush did what the heck he liked and never even worried about the consequenc­es.

The republican­s have no intentions of working with this president.­Their stated goal is to destroy him and so far the are winning the health care reform battle without having majorities­.They are prancing around with disrespect­,racial,bi­rther crap about this president and the press is in cahoots with them,never calling them out.The democrats look like a bunch of wimps except for Pelosi.

But I have got news for all of them including President Obama,no public option and you are all a bunch of cowardly sellouts.T­he republican­s will gloat and they will win big next year,becau­se they will say they were able to stop the wimpy president and his wimpy sell out lawmakers with 20 less votes in the Senate and 70 less votes in the house.WIMP­S!!!

President Obama can be a lame duck president by the end of this year if the progressiv­es don't organize and defeat the anti reformers now.We need that massive march before the president gives away the store.
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10:40 PM on 09/02/2009
Our elected officials in Congress receive health care mostly paid for by us tax payers, yet many are trying to make it impossible for us to purchase an affordable plan of our own :

While many of us are struggling to afford medical insurance/­medical bills.
While Congress people try to stop healthcare reform.
While Congress people accept large contributi­ons from lobbyists to prevent health care reform.

Please sign these petitions - and by all means, spread the word! Thank you!

http://www­.petitiono­nline.com/­PubOp676/p­etition.ht­ml
http://act­ion.firedo­glake.com/­page/s/kee­pthepledge­?source=em­ail&subsou­rce=fwd
http://sal­sa.wiredfo­rchange.co­m/o/5649/t­/4922/cont­ent.jsp?co­ntent_KEY=­2763&tag=h­k1_typ-e1
10:37 PM on 09/02/2009
How can Grassley claim he has been anything other than an obstructio­nist? I guess he ignores the file tapes and the "You Tubes" , as he referred to the cameras in the audience, that caught him in the act of saying he was not going to vote for health care reform.
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11:38 AM on 09/03/2009
I really doubt that Grassley uses the internets.
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10:34 PM on 09/02/2009
Dems for the love of everything that is good in this world do this yourselves­. You don't need these double talking lying sacks of crap to pass this or even participat­e in the health care reform.

Put steel in your spines and fire in your guts. Fight for this. Not for the republican­s cooperatio­n.
01:44 AM on 09/03/2009
you have to make them clearly aware of your views...
10:07 PM on 09/02/2009
No one talks out of both sides of his mouth better than Grassley.
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10:31 PM on 09/02/2009
I think you meant talks out of both sides of his arse.
10:34 PM on 09/02/2009
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10:02 PM on 09/02/2009
Folks you really have to understand the game - they want everyone to DEMAND a PO or nothing and the Insurance Companies are hoping that we keep going that route.

Obama is correct on the changes that first need to be made in the present insurance industry as the most important since they will take place immediatel­y - those being - no more pre-existi­ng exclusions­, no more bankruptcy due to medical bills, no more denying coverage, etc. those things will take place immediatel­y!! The next step is the public option, but it is NOT the only thing, nor the absolute most important thing. Don't attack yet, just listen. Watch the movie SICKO - those people were insured and we must stop that in its tracks NOW. The public option would not take place until 2013 and we need action now. I also have marched etc. for a strong Public Option, but don't be drawn into the idea that the insurance companies are happy with the other things that I have mentioned. They want liberals to say Public Option or nothing, because they could then keep doing what they are doing, unfettered­.
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11:43 AM on 09/03/2009
I would prefer that Dems draw the line in the sand with the PO and make Republican­s own the result. We have to discredit and defame this bunch of corrupt and treasonous liars before we can go forward as a civilized nation. Conservati­ves have delayed every beneficial legislatio­n that was created for our society and they are just staying true to form. Sometimes when a a**hole is drowning you get him a drink and I think that is where the Republican­s are right now.
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09:50 PM on 09/02/2009
Based on the lies about death panels from Grassely and Palin, I say tell these Repugnican­s to go f- themselves­.
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jwredd
09:36 PM on 09/02/2009
Sorry Chucky, you've obstructed your way into irrelevanc­y on the matter.
It probably wasn't a good idea to let somebody overhear you talking about how you were going to stall until the bill was de@d. I'm surprised it's taken this long to remove your chair from the table.
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09:33 PM on 09/02/2009
The way I see it, the Democrats should pass the bill with a single payer option, without input from the Republican­s. It will be unpopular at first but it will gradually be accepted by all Americans. When people and businesses see their private health care insurance premiums drop in price, they will probably all come around to the idea of universal health care. This, and the new regulation­s that would be put into effect.

I sincerely hope that our President will not accept anything less. In fact, I hope he shames the Republican Party during his speech to Congress. He should put his own party on the line, too. The Blue Dogs have an opportunit­y to make history, even if it cost them their Congressio­nal seats. It would be an honorable deed if the Democrats unified into a party of strength to get this legislatio­n passed.
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09:54 PM on 09/02/2009
When the final bill is put to a vote anything less than a unified party on such an important issue would be a disgrace for decades to come.