West Bank Settlements: Israel Approving 500 New Apartments

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MARK LAVIE | 09/ 6/09 04:55 PM | AP

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JERUSALEM — Israel defied U.S. pressure to halt construction in its West Bank settlements Sunday, with key leaders speaking out in support of the contentious enclaves and preparing to sign orders to allow building of hundreds of new housing units there.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak are expected to approve orders for about 500 new apartments Monday, said Israeli officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because the plans have not been finalized.

The Israeli government announced its plans to build the new units Friday while also outlining the idea of a subsequent partial freeze in settlement construction – an apparent attempt by Netanyahu to balance demands from both his conservative base and the Obama administration, which has called on Israel to halt all settlement construction.

But Netanyahu risks angering both sides. The White House immediately criticized the new building as detrimental to achieving Mideast peace, while members of the prime minister's Likud Party opposed limiting settlement construction at all.

"We were elected to fly the flag" of settlement, said Deputy Prime Minister Silvan Shalom at a Likud gathering late Sunday. "We must not fly that flag at half staff."

But other Israeli officials were more supportive.

The head of the ultra-Orthodox Jewish Shas Party, Eli Yishai, spoke supportively of a "strategic pause" in construction. And Transportation Minister Yisrael Katz called Netanyahu's move "well-conceived," adding that no agreement had been reached with Washington on a construction freeze.

If orders for the 500 new apartments are approved, they would be the first building permits issued since Netanyahu took office March 31, a kind of de facto slowdown that existed despite the prime minister's refusal to agree to Washington's demands to fully freeze settlement construction.

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Such tense relations between the two strategic allies were rare when George W. Bush was president and moderate Ehud Olmert was Israel's premier. But public recriminations between President Barack Obama and Netanyahu have become routine.

Obama's envoy, George Mitchell, is expected in Israel at the end of this week or the beginning of next, according to Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev. Mitchell has been the point man for the dispute over settlement construction.

Despite conflicting pressures, Netanyahu still hopes to work out a compromise deal that will satisfy the U.S. and allow for resumption of peace negotiations. Israeli officials have suggested they might halt some building in the West Bank in exchange for overtures from the Arab world.

Khaled Mashaal, the exiled leader of the militant Islamic Hamas, rejected that on Sunday in Cairo. "This is a very dangerous equation," Mashaal said. "We warn against any Arab rush toward normalization."

Hamas rules the Gaza Strip after overrunning it in 2007. The Western-backed regime of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas controls the West Bank.

Israel says a halt in construction would not apply to 2,500 units under construction or to east Jerusalem, which the Palestinians claim for the capital of a future state. Israel captured that sector of the city in 1967.

Palestinian officials continue to insist that there can be no peace talks until all the settlement construction is stopped. Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat said Sunday that the new construction "really undermines the efforts being exerted to revive the peace process."

About 300,000 Israelis live among about 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank. An additional 180,000 Israelis live in east Jerusalem neighborhoods built since Israel captured the area.

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Associated Press writer Maamoun Youssef contributed to this report from Cairo.

JERUSALEM — Israel defied U.S. pressure to halt construction in its West Bank settlements Sunday, with key leaders speaking out in support of the contentious enclaves and preparing to sign order...
JERUSALEM — Israel defied U.S. pressure to halt construction in its West Bank settlements Sunday, with key leaders speaking out in support of the contentious enclaves and preparing to sign order...
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- Freenation I'm a Fan of Freenation 25 fans permalink

for all those who are bored by comments from modertimes1, thelonelygod, jordaninpalestine and others should read this article, this will explain the reason:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/09/israel-foreign-ministry-media

p.s. hp is on the list of these drones so this explains too...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 09/09/2009

That's the best you can do? To accuse those that defend Israel essentially of getting a daily fax of talking points and internet links from Tel Aviv? That's it? That's all you got?

With apologies to Crash Davis; "C'mon Meat, throw me that weak-as* shi*!"

Maybe that was a bit presumptuous. Can I call you Meat?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 09/09/2009
- Freenation I'm a Fan of Freenation 25 fans permalink

ha ha this is how people react when they are nailed...if you see the article it is penned by a jewish personnel (a great person who exposed this scam) take your grievances to him...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 09/10/2009
- Poiks I'm a Fan of Poiks 72 fans permalink
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I don't understand the whole settlement thing...it seems completely counterproductive to any notion of middle-east peace. Can anyone explain why Israel is doing this? Is there some way to interpret it other than stealing land?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 09/08/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 62 fans permalink
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Get the idea? "HELPFUL"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 09/08/2009
- KriTiKiT I'm a Fan of KriTiKiT 41 fans permalink
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helpful,,, leave that works

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 09/09/2009
- oneeleven I'm a Fan of oneeleven 19 fans permalink
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Unfortunately, in just the last week I've seen both words used repeatedly, and the poster remains for hours.....­inexcuseab­le and outrageous

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 09/08/2009

What 2 words??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 09/08/2009
- oneeleven I'm a Fan of oneeleven 19 fans permalink
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ModernTimes1 I'm a Fan of ModernTimes1 I'm a fan of this user 63 fans permalink
obviously kykes doesn't get filtered on this website. I wonder if n-word would get thru their filters. Highly doubtful.
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Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 09/08/2009

I replied to this comment several hours ago....don't know how it appeared as an independent comment

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 09/08/2009
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Fact: Palestinians have no country. They never had a country.
They can only get a country by acquiring the good will of Israel electorate and negotiation with Israeli elected representatives. And no verbal gymnastics will change this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 09/08/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 62 fans permalink
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Or by the present path which is waiting until the international community forces Israel to extend the vote to everyone under their control-see South Africa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 09/09/2009
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Keep waiting. South Africa analogy is ( typically uneducated Ar-ab myth aped by mindless, too indolent to do their own research.
SA-- minority controlled the majority within a state.
Israel DIRECTLLY opposite -- In Israel majority rules,
SA-- the majority was deprived of voting rights and social justice.
Israel--DIRECTLY opposite . ALL citizens vote. ALL citizens collect pensions, unemployment, benefits and socialized medicine.

Of course, the M-lim obsessives are not interested in reality. Many outsiders observed ambivalent relationship many M-lim have with reality and truth, especially when it conflicts with a well told lie. But the roots of Mlim civilizations decay is another subject, altogether.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 AM on 09/09/2009
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"If Palestinians interested in the good life alone, they would long ago have settled into a comfortable synergy with Israel's dynamic economy.
Instead, they have repeatedly shown that they are quite prepared to sacrifice the prospect of better living conditions if doing so will further the cause of obliterating Israel."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 09/08/2009
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"The area was underpopulated and remained economically stagnant until the arrival of the first Zionist pioneers in the 1880's, who came to rebuild the Jewish land.
The country had remained "The Holy Land" in the religious and historic consciousness of mankind, which associated it with the Bible and the history of the Jewish people. Jewish development of the country also attracted large numbers of other immigrants - both Jewish and Arab.
The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track suitable for transport by camels and carts... Houses were all of mud. No windows were anywhere to be seen... The sanitary conditions in the village [Yabna] were horrible... Schools did not exist... The rate of infant mortality was very high...
The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many ruins of villages were scattered over the area, as owing to the prevalence of malaria, many villages were deserted by their inhabitants".
British Royal Commission Report. 1913

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 09/08/2009

Netanyahu to Obama;

If we want to run the worlds only violently enforced colonial settler movement and do it on your dime, even as you experience the increased terror and the wars that will follow, that's OUR business. Now get my military and foreign aid (welfare for a ethnic cleansing and apartheid sate) check PRONTO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 09/08/2009
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HEre's a thought.
This Muslim and/or Arabs neurotic obsession with Israel to the exclusion of everything else has one positive outcome.
This gives Arabs a perfect excuse to perpetuate their poverty, illiteracy and indolence which ensures Israeli supremacy in the region for decades to come.'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 09/08/2009

Just a reminder..in 1967.......when there were NO "settlements" in the West Bank or Gaza....5 Arab nations attacked Israel in an attempt ti wipe it off the face of the earth! I mention that because "settlements" is NOT the issue...it's the acceptance of Israel and Jews living in the Middle East...anywhere!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 09/08/2009

Sorry but it was Israel who attacked the Arab nations, not the other way around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 09/08/2009

Yes..in response to the build-op on their borders of the armies of 5 Arab nations!! The Israelis beat them to the punch-because they're smarter!!! Now...back to the idea thta there were NO SETTLEMENTS then....any comment about THAT FACT??????­?????????? I didn't think so!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 09/08/2009

I think that you are slightly confused about what exactly happened in 1967. On May 16, 1967 UN Emergency Force, who had served as a buffer between Israel and Egypt, withdrew upon demands from Nassar without bringing the matter to the attention of the General Assembly (as his predecessor had promised. After the withdrawal of the UNEF, the Voice of the Arabs radio station proclaimed on May 18, 1967: 

"As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel. We shall exercise patience no more. We shall not complain any more to the UN about Israel. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is total war." 

Nasser challenged Israel to fight almost daily after May 18, 1967. On May 27, 1967 he stated, "Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight". The following day, he added: "We will not accept any...coexistence with Israel...Today the issue is not the establishment of peace between the Arab states and Israel....The war with Israel is in effect since 1948."

Israel struck first in self defense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 09/08/2009
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When you repeatedly poke at a defenseless cornered animal, you risk being attacked.

Israel, put down the stick, you'll get no sympathy from me if you're bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 09/08/2009

Who will do the biting???? A toothless snake in the grass??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 09/08/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 62 fans permalink
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OOOOh, ve sond lik settler.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 09/08/2009
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Poking at a toothless snake is cowardly, don't you think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 09/08/2009

ONLY 500 units?? Build,Bibi­..BUILD!!! It's Israel's land---won in defensive wars against Arab aggressors trying to exterminate it!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 09/08/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 62 fans permalink
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Actually you only need these 500 to close the last connection from EJ to the WB. But then all that stuff is way above your pay grade.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 09/08/2009

Great idea! Then the 500 units will do fine...that's right at my pay level,Sparky!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 09/08/2009
- courtb I'm a Fan of courtb 19 fans permalink

Why build? It's not helping anyone for them to do this now. Why not negotiate first and try and make an arrangement where there is room for natural growth of existing large settlements with a land swap somewhere else. He's doing it not to try and appear strong and it's having the complete opposite affect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 09/08/2009
- Freenation I'm a Fan of Freenation 25 fans permalink

did you meant: steal, bibi, steal....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 09/09/2009
- PWM I'm a Fan of PWM 251 fans permalink
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Obama should cut off all military welfare aid to Israel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 09/08/2009
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Along with assistance to ALL Muslim states. hmmm.... I'll take that deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 09/08/2009
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So I take it you're anti Palestinian...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 09/08/2009
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"The Herbawi department store in Jenin, which was built with Arab investment, is part of what analysts say is a boom that is occurring in the West Bank despite the global slowdown.
They say the reason is security conditions have improved, allowing the wheels of commerce to turn.
Construction projects can be seen just about everywhere. The town of Ramallah is preparing to open a newly-built five-star hotel, the result of European investment.

Improved security has led the Israeli army in the past year to remove more than 140 checkpoints, allowing for the freer flow of people and goods in the West Bank. '
http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2009-06/2009-06-30-voa41.cfm?CFID=281235614&CFTOKEN=68586339&jsessionid=0030f4f39750ec27f98028c358026125cc31

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 09/08/2009

There are still 660 checkpoints throughout the west bank, and East Jerusalem, the economic heart of Palestine, continues to be choked off.

Thanks, though, for pointing out the crumbs that are thrown to the Palestinians and with the expectation that they should rejoice in the streets as they are subjected to the worlds only violently enforced colonial settler movement.

Such a thing would not be tolerated in the US for 10 minutes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 09/08/2009

If people who wanted to wipe us out were living in and around us...you can bet we'd have checkpoints ..everywhere!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 09/08/2009
- sense11 I'm a Fan of sense11 32 fans permalink
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Troublemakers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 09/08/2009
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If Arabs livein Israel, Jews can live in Judea and Samaria. Deal with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 09/08/2009
- PWM I'm a Fan of PWM 251 fans permalink
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It does not work that way. The west bank is not terrority of Israel. To build there would be on the level of the US simply building settlements in Canada - a violation of international law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 09/08/2009
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And did we think with Netanyahu, Israel would become this great friend to the Palestinians?

Israel is free to choose what it wants for itself regardless of what we say and we're well within our rights to put all the money meant for Israel towards our own healthcare reform...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 09/08/2009

How about taking ONE MONTH of Iraq War money,inst­ead...sinc­e THAT AMOUNT IS DOUBLE WHAT WE GIVE IN AID TO ISRAEL....and 80% of those funds going to Israel are spent here in America????????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 09/08/2009
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We, the United States control what we do in Iraq, therefore the money we give it is for our own purpose. Where does the money we give Israel go? We have no control over what they do with our tax dollars. I'd rather have my money stay in this country, towards healthcare so my neighbor can have her operation without fear of losing her house...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 09/08/2009
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80% of those funds come back here? What, to buy off the politicians?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 09/08/2009
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