House GOP Whip List Claims Pelosi Lacks Votes For Health Care

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First Posted: 09- 9-09 05:32 PM   |   Updated: 09- 9-09 06:21 PM

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House Republicans are circulating a "whip count" of 101 Democrats who have indicated that they may vote against health care reform.

While the focus has long been on the Senate, where 60 votes are needed to overcome a filibuster, the whip list is a reminder that House passage without Republican support will still be a struggle. The GOP list includes 44 Blue Dogs and 57 progressives. Some Blue Dogs have balked at the cost of the package while progressives have pledged to oppose it if it doesn't include a robust public health insurance option.

If House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is able to secure the support of the progressives, she could lose a majority of Blue Dogs and still have the 218 Democrats needed for passage. And who knows? Maybe they'll get a "closet Democrat," too.

Though daunting, the vote is not necessarily unwinnable. After all, if Pelosi can push a controversial climate change bill through a reluctant chamber then health care is within reach.

But a note attached to the "whip count" telegraphs the GOP's political strategy in the 2010 midterm contest. "[U]nless multiple Democrats flip on their stated position on health care, Speaker Pelosi lacks the votes to pass a bill through the House on the strength of Democrat votes alone," it reads.

A fair number of those listed "no" by the GOP are questionable. Would Rep. Jack Murtha (D-Penn.), a close ally of Pelosi, really buck her on the most important vote in her career? Don't count on it.

Still, in June he signed a letter declaring: "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." The true meaning of that pledge comes down to the details: some private insurance plans do cover abortions and the subsidy would help consumers purchase such private plans. Does that mean it's a government-subsidized plan? Or is the consumer being subsidized to buy a private plan? If it's considered the latter, Murtha's free to support the package.

Below is the GOP-compiled list along with the research that backs it up. A note to Democratic flacks and members: If the list mischaracterizes your position, or it has since changed, let me know and I'll update the story.

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And a note to readers: if you've received a letter from your congressman -- or have video of your congressman -- taking a different position than the one listed, please forward that to me.

44 Blue Dogs


1. Rep. Altmire

2. Rep. Adler

3. Rep. Barrow

4. Rep. Boren

5. Rep. Boucher

6. Rep. Boyd

7. Rep. Bright

8. Rep. Carney

9. Rep. Childers

11. Rep. Cleaver

12. Rep. Cooper

13. Rep. Costello

14. Rep. Cuellar

15. Rep. Dahlkamper

16. Rep. Davis

17. Rep. Driehaus

18. Rep. Ellsworth

19. Rep. Gordon

20. Rep. Griffith

21. Rep. Halvorson

22. Rep. Hill

23. Rep. Holden

24. Rep. Kanjorski

25. Rep. Kaptur

26. Rep. Kratovil

27. Rep. Marshall

28. Rep. Massa

29. Rep. Melancon

30. Rep. McIntyre

31. Rep. Minnick

32. Rep. Murtha

33. Rep. Oberstar

34. Rep. Ortiz

35. Rep. Perriello

36. Rep. Peterson

37. Rep. Polis

38. Rep. Pomeroy

39. Rep. Ross

40. Rep. Shuler

41. Rep. Stupak

42. Rep. Tanner

43. Rep. Taylor

44. Rep. Titus

57 Liberal Democrats to vote no on a bill without a strong public option

"On July 31, 2009, the Congressional Progressive Caucus sent a letter to Speaker Pelosi expressing their opposition to a weakening of the public option. The letter on behalf of 57 Progressive Democrats concludes, "In short, this agreement will result in the public, both as insurance purchasers and as taxpayers, paying ever higher rates to insurance companies. We simply cannot vote for such a proposal." The text can be read here.

1) Rep. Woolsey

2) Rep. Grijalva

3) Rep. Kilpatrick

4) Rep. Nadler

5) Rep. Hare

6) Rep. Roybal-Allard

7) Rep. Ellison

8) Rep. Blumenauer

9) Rep. Watts

10) Rep. Edwards

11) Rep. Olver

12) Rep. Kucinich

13) Rep. Richardson

14) Rep. Waters

15) Rep. Conyers

16) Rep. Chu

17) Rep. Hinchey

18) Rep. Johnson

19) Rep. Watson

20) Rep. Spier

21) Rep. Pascrell

22) Rep. Doggett

23) Rep. Kaptur

24) Rep. Hirono

25) Rep. Filner

26) Rep. Sanchez

27) Rep. Fudge

28) Rep. Lee

29) Rep. Carson

30) Rep. Jackson Lee

31) Rep. Honda

32) Rep. McDermott

33) Rep. Clay

34) Rep. McGovern

35) Rep. Clarke

36) Rep. Massa

37) Rep. Pingree

38) Rep. Jackson, Jr.

39) Rep. Cummings

40) Rep. Thompson

41) Rep. Moore

42) Rep. Payne

43) Rep. Stark

44) Rep. Towns

45) Rep. Brown

46) Rep. Hastings

47) Rep. Valezquez

48) Rep. Gutierrez

49) Rep. Napolitano

50) Rep. Sires

51) Rep. Tierney

52) Rep. Capuano

53) Rep. Fattah

54) Rep. Serrano

55) Rep. Farr

56) Rep. Delahunt

57) Rep. Johnson

BACKGROUND:

Rep. John Adler (D-NJ): "Isn't good for America." But dissatisfaction extends beyond Blue Dogs. Rep. Rick Boucher (Va.), a conservative Democrat but not a Blue Dog, says he doesn't like the public option. Rep. John Adler (D-N.J.) told an audience, "The bill that's coming through the House, with or without the public option, isn't good for America." (Mike Soraghan and A.B. Stoddard, "Dem Split On The Public Option Casts Doubt On Reform Of Healthcare," The Hill, 8/31/09)

Rep. Jason Altmire (D-PA): Voted Against The Health Care Bill In The Education And Labor Committee. "Two key House committees moved along Democratic healthcare legislation on Friday, only days after the bill was introduced. ... The Education and Labor Committee approved their portion of the bill by a 26-22 vote. Democratic Reps. Jared Polis (Colo.), Dina Titus (Nev.) and Jason Altimire (Pa.) voted against the bill." (Michael O'Brien, "House Committees Advance Healthcare Overhaul," The Hill, 7/17/09)

Rep. John Barrow (D-GA): "I still voted against the bill." Barrow said he does not believe that the changes they made are permanent or adequate. "I still voted against the bill, even after we had gotten these amendments passed, not because I didn't think they made it better, but because I didn't think they made the bill good enough," he said. (Sandi Van Orden, "Barrow Offers Why He Voted Against Health Care Bill," The Effingham Herald, 9/3/09)

Rep. Dan Boren (D-OK): "The House Bill That's Out There, I Can't Support." "Second District Congressman Dan Boren said Monday that health care reform rests largely on President Barack Obama's willingness to accept bipartisan compromise on the issue. 'If health care reform is going to happen it will have to happen in a bipartisan way,' Boren told the Tulsa Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce. 'It's really up to the president.' Boren, a Democrat, said he is trying to keep an open mind but said, 'The House bill that's out there, I can't support.'" (Tom Gilbert, "Boren: Bipartisanship Key To Health Care," Tulsa World, 7/20/09)

Rep. Rick Boucher (D-VA): I have a problem with this government option plan," Boucher said. "I'm troubled that the government option plan could become very popular and if it became sufficiently popular it could begin to crowd out the other" private insurance companies. Furthermore, he said, the public option could "financially destabilize" rural hospitals. (Sarah Bruyn Jones, "Boucher Unconvinced On 'Government Option' For Health Care," The Roanoke Times, 8/19/09)

Rep. Allen Boyd (D-Fla.), who belongs to the moderate Blue Dogs group, said at a town hall meeting yesterday that "the public option is off the table." When asked whether it would be a good idea to "scrap everything" and start the process of reforming health care over, Boyd reportedly said, "I think that is an excellent idea ... we may end up there."

Rep. Bobby Bright (D-AL): U.S. Congressman Bobby Bright announced recently he opposes the current draft of United States House of Representatives health care legislation. "I am hopeful that when Congress returns in September, the process will be more bipartisan and we will be able to produce something that works for the American people," Bright said. "I continue to believe that the current direction of health care reform relies too heavily on taxes on individuals and small businesses, and the overall cost of health care legislation remains too high. Moreover, though changes have been made to how the public option will work, the overall bill does not represent my belief in a free-market approach to health care reform."

("Bright Questions Health Care Reform," The Southeast Sun, 8/26/09)

Rep. Chris Carney (D-PA): "I Would Not Vote In Favor Of It At This Point." "Carney said he could not support a plan crafted by House Democrats because of the way the plan would impact small- to medium-sized businesses, rural areas and small hospitals. 'There is a 1,000-page template out of the House, but it's very fluid and being negotiated as we speak,' Carney said. 'There is not unanimous agreement on the initial version. Guys like me - the blue dog Democrats - are firm on our disagreement with certain aspects of the bill.' 'As it is now, and realizing it is extremely fluid and changes daily, I would not vote in favor of it at this point,' he said." (David Thompson, "Carney: More Time Needed For Proper Health Care Reform," Sun Gazette, 7/24/09)

Rep. Travis Childers (D-MS): Would Not Vote for a House Health Care Reform Bill. During a town hall teleconference Tuesday night, Rep. Travis Childers, D-Miss., said "he would not vote for a House health care reform bill in its current form," a Memphis TV station reports.

Rep. Travis Childers (D-MS): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO): "I'm willing to Push the Reset Button." "Cleaver willing to start over on health care bill. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver told reporters this morning he's willing to start from scratch on a health care reform bill, as many Republicans have suggested. "I'm willing to push the reset button," Cleaver said, although he appeared skeptical about the prospects for any new legislation from a restart of the process. The Missouri Democrat also said health care reform is "too important" to be passed with only Democratic votes, as White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has recently suggested. Cleaver also said if health reform isn't passed by year's end, it won't happen. That, he agreed, effectively gives the GOP veto power over any legislation for the next 90 days or so, once Congress returns after Labor Day. (Dave Helling, "Cleaver Willing To Start Over On Health Care Bill," The Kansas City Star, 8/19/09)

Rep. Jim Cooper (D-TN): "Is Not Good Enough to Earn the Support of Nashville-Area Voters." I want to vote for health-care reform. Every American deserves comprehensive health care. It is a moral imperative. But the House bill, at least as I have closely reviewed the June 19th and later drafts, is not good enough to earn the support of Nashville-area voters.

Rep. Jerry Costello (D-IL): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX): "Am I In Favor Of This Bill As It Is Written? I Am Not." "'We have the more conservative folks and the more liberal folks pushing me both ways,' Cuellar noted. 'Do I believe in health care reform? Yes I do. But I also believe in insurance reform. Am I in favor of this bill as it is written? I am not.'" (Ron Maloney, "Somewhat Rowdy Crowd For Cuellar Visit," The Gazette-Enterprise, 7/26/09)

Rep. Kathleen Dahlkamper (D-PA): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Lincoln Davis (D-TN): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-OH): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Brad Ellsworth (D-IN): "I Was Not Prepared, Nor Would I Have Voted For, the Proposed Bill on August 6th." "I'm really glad we were able to postpone the legislation," Ellsworth said. "I was not prepared, nor would I have voted for, the proposed bill on August 6th" when the summer recess began, he said.

Rep. Bart Gordon (D-TN): "I Cannot Support The Bill." "On Thursday, Gordon and the other six Blue Dogs on the committee demonstrated their concerns about the bill by reading nearly identical opening statements. 'I am thoroughly reviewing the bill. However, as currently written, I cannot support the bill,' Gordon said after the hearing." (Bill Theobald, "Health Bill Faces Fight From Tennessee Blue Dogs," Tennessean, 7/19/09)

Rep. Parker Griffith (D-Al): Rep. Parker Griffith, D-Al., who opposes the public health care option, says he needs more details before he can sign off on the co-op notion being floated by the Senate. "It depends on how it's worded and how it's structured," Griffith said Monday, according to the Huntsville Times.

Rep. Debbie Halvorson (D-IL) "My message right now is we don't have a bill": While health care proposals are changing by the minute, Halvorson said her primary concern is cost. If the final draft increases the federal deficit, she'll vote against it, even though President Barack Obama's administration repeatedly has said he is "not open to deficit spending. Health reform will be paid for and it will be deficit neutral over 10 years," Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius wrote in submitted testimony to the House Energy and Commerce Committee. "My message right now is we don't have a bill," Halvorson said. "In fact, the moderate Democrats are the ones holding off so we wouldn't have to vote on this before we left. Health care is a big issue, but just because I ran on health care doesn't mean I'm going to vote for a bill that doesn't work and costs too much money. True reform brings costs down. True reform is not what this bill is yet." (Kristen McQueary, "Dodge In, Halvorson On The Defensive," The Southtown Star, 8/20/09)

Rep. Baron Hill (D-IN): "Said This Morning He Would Not Vote For The Health Care Reform Bill In Its Present Form." "Congressman Baron Hill said this morning he would not vote for the health care reform bill in its present form, primarily because he believes it lacks effective health care cost controls. ... 'There are seven of us blue dogs on the committee opposed to the bill in its present form,' Hill said. 'We met the last two days drafting amendments to the bill that address the issue of accountability and cost controls.' Hill said he wants the bill to control costs by shifting the system away from the fee-for-service model, which he says financially rewards doctors and hospitals in direct proportion to the number of procedures they perform. 'We need to create a medical system that makes sure the patient comes first instead of a system that rewards doctors for overutilizing services,' he said. 'That means getting rid of fee-for-service.'" (Dann Denny, "Baron Hill Wants Health Care Bill Modifications," Herald-Times, 7/16/09)

Rep. Tim Holden (D-PA): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-PA): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Frank Kratovil Jr. (D-MD): Opposes current legislation in the House, but remains open to public option. He opposes the measure currently under consideration in the House and will vote against it unless there are significant changes. Among his objections: the price, which would add $239 billion to the deficit over 10 years, according to a preliminary estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. He's also concerned, he says, that the measure is too generous to the poor, at the expense of the middle class, and potentially harmful to rural areas of Maryland, like the Eastern Shore, which already have trouble attracting and keeping doctors. At the same time, Kratovil speaks with evident passion about the need for change. He said in an interview that he "absolutely" would support a more "reasonable" plan, though he acknowledges that he doesn't know how to close the cost gap. Unlike many of his fellow Blue Dogs, he's not against including a public insurance option. He said he would favor one that creates an "equal playing field" and legitimate competition with private insurance companies. "I don't follow the fear that having a public option means the beginning of a single-payer system," he said, sitting in a windowless conference room at his Salisbury district office. (Paul West, "A Blue Dog Democrat's View From The Middle," The Baltimore Sun, 8/23/09)

Rep. Jim Marshall (D-GA): "As the Bill Stands Right Now, I Would Have to Vote 'No.'" "As the bill stands right now, I would have to vote 'no' until we get a better handle on the costs. I am adamantly opposed to throwing more money at the current system."

Rep. Eric Massa (D-NY): "But I Will Not Vote For A Bill That Gets It Wrong, And If I Had To Vote Today For The Current Piece Of Legislation In Front Of Congress, I Would Not Be Able To Support It." "U.S. Rep. Eric Massa said if he had to vote today on America's Affordable Health Care Choices Act, he would probably vote against it. 'We all know that one in six don't have health insurance. We all know that we pay more per capita for health care than any other nation in the world. These things need to be addressed, and doing nothing, which is what so many want to do, is simply not an option,' said Massa, D-Corning. 'But I will not vote for a bill that gets it wrong, and if I had to vote today for the current piece of legislation in front of Congress, I would not be able to support it,' he said Tuesday during his weekly teleconference with the media." (Ray Finger, "Massa Wary Of Health Care Reform Bill," Star-Gazette, 7/22/09)

Rep. Mike McIntyre (D-NC): I am not convinced that we should have the public option. I know there's been a lot of debate about that, but I'm not convinced that we should do that, so as it stands now, I would be a no on the public option. With regard to the coops, I think there's room for debate there on how that's done, and I'm not in favor of just dumping federal money into it, I think that's the essence of his question. http://www.wwaytv3.com/node/17942

Rep. Mike McIntyre (D-NC): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Charlie Melancon (D-LA): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Walt Minnick (D-ID): Rep. Walt Minnick, D-Id., is described in the Idaho Mountain Express as flatly opposing the Democrats' health care reform bill. "The government should set the rules of the road and then let private business do the work," he said.

Rep. John Murtha (D-PA): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. James Oberstar (D-MN): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Salomon Ortiz (D-TX): "We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan." "We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion." (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Rep. Tom Perriello (D-VA): Perriello said he does not currently support any of the three proposals in congress. He said he won't support a program that funds abortions, but he said it's starting to sink in with people that the feds aren't trying to do away with private insurance. "You still hear concerns about it being a public mandate rather than a public option. People are going to be given a wide range of choice between private insurance and maybe, or maybe not, a public option. I think people are starting to understand that," Perriello said. (Brian Damewood, "Locals Sound Off Over Health Care," wset.com, 8/18/09)

Rep. Collin Peterson (D-MN): I have not found a bill I can support yet. "I'm not here to sell you anything," he said. "I have not found a bill yet that I can support" -- interrupted by applause -- "I am here to listen and to learn. I believe we have problems in our health care system. We are not spending our money wisely, so I believe we have to do something." (Bob von Sternberg, A Kinder, Gentler Town Hall Meeting. The Minnesota Star Tribune 8/15/09)

Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO): Voted Against The Health Care Bill In The Education And Labor Committee. "Two key House committees moved along Democratic healthcare legislation on Friday, only days after the bill was introduced. ... The Education and Labor Committee approved their portion of the bill by a 26-22 vote. Democratic Reps. Jared Polis (Colo.), Dina Titus (Nev.) and Jason Altimire (Pa.) voted against the bill." (Michael O'Brien, "House Committees Advance Healthcare Overhaul," The Hill, 7/17/09)

Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-ND): Voted Against The Health Care Bill In The House Ways And Means Committee. "The House Ways and Means Committee approved legislation early Friday to overhaul the health care system and expand insurance coverage after a marathon session in which Democrats easily turned back Republican efforts to amend the bill. ... In the Ways and Means vote, three Democrats -- Ron Kind of Wisconsin, Earl Pomeroy of North Dakota and John Tanner of Tennessee -- joined Republicans in voting against the bill." (Robert Pear, "House Committee Approves Health Care Bill," The New York Times, 7/17/09)

Rep. Mike Ross (D-AL): "I have been skeptical about the public health insurance option from the beginning and used August to get feedback from you, my constituents," he wrote in a statement his office released publicly. "An overwhelming number of you oppose a government-run health insurance option, and it is your feedback that has led me to oppose the public option as well."

Rep. Heath Shuler (D-NC): In the Tarheel State, Rep. Heath Shuler, D-NC, said during a telephone town hall meeting, per the Citizen-Times, "that he opposes the House health care reform legislation because it would increase the deficit, doesn't reduce the overall cost of health care and doesn't do enough to promote people living healthier lives... 'I do not support HR3200 at the present time,' Shuler said...emphasizing that the current legislation does not do enough to promote wellness, prevention and disease management. Nor is enough being done to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse in Medicare and Medicaid, he said."

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI): "I Cannot Support This Bill In Its Current Form." "'I cannot support this bill in its current form,' Democrat Bart Stupak said, adding it did not provide real competition for the insurance industry and could hike costs for consumers." (Kim Dixon, "Obama Looks For Republican Healthcare Backing," Reuters, 7/16/09)

Rep. Stupak (D-MI): "You've Got A Broken System. We Are Perpetuating A Broken System." "Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) cast himself as one of eight opponents of the bill as written on Energy and Commerce. 'You've got a broken system. We are perpetuating a broken system,' Stupak said. 'They've got to address our concerns, or the other option is a "no" vote.' He also said opponents might try to block a bill by defeating the House rule on the floor." (Jeffrey Young, "House Leaders Cheer Healthcare Progress Amid Infighting," The Hill, 7/17/09)

Rep. Stupak (D-MI): "Why Would We Give You More Money For A System That's Broken?" "Stupak's concerns are varied, but they include his desire for a prohibition on federal funding for abortions as part of the public insurance option under consideration, as well as a demand for deeper cost cuts and dealing with regional disparities under Medicare. Fundamentally, the bill does not fix the broken health care system, he said. 'Why would we give you more money for a system that's broken?' he asked." (Steven T. Dennis, "Stupak Warns Of Democratic Defections On Health Bill," Roll Call, 7/17/09)

Rep. John Tanner (D-TN): Said Rep. John Tanner, D-Tenn., according to the Commercial Appeal, "most reasonable, sensible people realize that we've got some holes in the current delivery system that are resulting in inefficiency, duplication, nonproductive ... provider-to-patient expenditures, and what I've been telling people is we need to figure that out before we start overturning the entire system...I think we need to take a deep breath and go at this thing incrementally."

Rep. Gene Taylor (D-MS): Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss., at a town hall meeting in Moss Point Monday night, said, per the Associated Press, "I would hope that everyone in this room knows by now that I am not going to vote for the health care plan."

Rep. Dina Titus (D-NV): Voted Against The Health Care Bill In The Education And Labor Committee. "Two key House committees moved along Democratic healthcare legislation on Friday, only days after the bill was introduced. ... The Education and Labor Committee approved their portion of the bill by a 26-22 vote. Democratic Reps. Jared Polis (Colo.), Dina Titus (Nev.) and Jason Altimire (Pa.) voted against the bill." (Michael O'Brien, "House Committees Advance Healthcare Overhaul," The Hill, 7/17/09)

Rep. William Lacy Clay (D-MO): Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-St. Louis, is among the unwavering on the public option. In a statement to Political Fix, Clay asserted today that a public insurance plan "is the only way to force insurance companies to control costs, treat their customers fairly and spur competition. (Bill Lambrecht, "Clay: Public Option "Only Way" To Control Costs, Spur Competition," The St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 8/18/09)

Rep. John Conyers (D-MI): It is clear that real reform means injecting real competition into the insurance market to improve affordability and drive down health-care costs. "The centerpiece of this reform is a robust Medicare-like public health insurance plan tied to the Medicare provider system. Like many of my colleagues in both the House and Senate, I will oppose any health-care reform bill that lacks such a plan. (Rep. John Conyers, "Conyers: Public Option Is A Necessary Component Of Health-Care Reform," Press Release 9/9/09)

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN): Sixty members of the Progressive Caucus have "drawn a line in the sand," saying they will NOT support anything short of reform that includes a public-option health insurance program. The concept of co-ops supplanting the public option plan is not good enough, those signing the letter have said. Ellison, a passionate Obama supporter, admitted following the news conference that he believes it's necessary for the president to again make it clear that the public option plan is the only acceptable solution. "There are a lot of people who think that Obama and [Secretary of Health Kathleen] Sebelius made a tactical mistake by seeming to back off. ... He can't hand it [the public option] away without a political price to pay. That's not a bad thing. He might think he can walk away and say, 'I brought more reform than we've had in 60 years.' But we [in the progressive caucus] are saying, 'That's not enough.' " (Doug Grow, "Congressional Progressive Caucus 'Pep Rally' Is Still Pushing Public-Option Health Care Reform," Minnpost.Com 8/20/09)

Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY): "I'd have to think long and hard, I'd have to see if it moved health care forward," New York Rep. Eliot Engel told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "...I think it would be a terrible miscalculation if we didn't have a public option." Engel called nonprofit health cooperatives, or "co-ops" -- which are being proposed as an alternative -- "untested," and said that he needs proof that they would help to lower costs. (Lauren Kornreich, "House Democrat: 'Terrible Miscalculation' To Skip Public Option," CNN.com, 8/18/09)

Rep. Chaka Fattah (D-PA): "There is no option when it comes to reforming America's ailing healthcare system. We must do it. And there is no option for inclusion of a public plan. We must have it. Real reform requires real choice. A public option provides consumers a critical alternative to private plan. (Rep. Chaka Fattah, "Healthcare: Public Option Mirrors Other Government Insurance Plans," Press Release, 8/21/09)

Rep. Phil Hare (D-IL): "....in recent days there have been some reports that the President may reconsider requiring a strong, robust public option that competes directly with private insurance companies. That would be a mistake. Health care reform without a public option is a like a car without a motor. It may look nice, but it isn't going anywhere." (Ed Tibbetts, "Hare To Biden: Don't Drop Public Option," The Quad City Times, 8/20/09)

Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL): Jackson held a town hall meeting last night - with CNN cameras present - that he described to King as civil before laying down a marker for his friend, the president. "A hundred and sixty members of Congress have already signed a letter indicating that without a strong public option, from their perspective, including my signature, that this bill is a non-starter," Jackson said. (Steve Rhodes, "Prescription For Debate," NBC Chicago.com, 8/20/09)

Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA): Liberal Democrats are terrified that he will jettison their Holy Grail, while conservatives fear that a vote for a public option - characterized by opponents as leading to government-run health care - could doom them in tough re-election fights. "This is not a sliver of health care reform, this is essential," said Rep. Barbara Lee, an Oakland Democrat, one of 60-plus House liberals who vow to vote against any plan without a public option. Lee said she hopes Obama will clearly state his support. "This is really a moral imperative," she said. "This is a huge issue." (Carolyn Lochhead, "Dems Pin Health Reform Hopes On Obama's Speech, The San Francisco Chronicle, 9/8/09)

Rep. Jerrod Nadler (D-NY): "We are making clear to the leadership that we insist on a robust public option and our votes won't be there if there isn't a public option," said Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D., N.Y.), a senior member of the House Progressive Caucus. Whether they would actually vote no is unclear. Some working to pass the measure find the threat unpersuasive. The Progressive Caucus has 82 members, enough to defeat a health bill, since virtually all 178 House Republicans are likely to vote no. (Laura Meckler and Naftali Bendavid, "Liberals Fear Losing Public-Plan Option," The Wall Street Journal, 7/29/09)

Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL): Meanwhile, Jan Schakowsky, a leading progressive Democratic lawmaker, said liberals were not prepared to climb down. "I will support nothing short of a robust public health insurance plan upon implementation - no triggers," she said. "I believe Congress will pass and the president will sign such a bill." (Edward Luce, "Obama Seeks To Quell Healthcare Revolt," The Financial Times, 9/3/09)

Rep. Peter Stark (D-CA): "Well, the only co-op I know about is when I used to milk cows and we sold the milk to Golden Guernsey. And I think there's only one co-op left," said Stark, who considers the co-op idea a non-starter. "There aren't many of you listening who remember the co-ops of the '30s, which was a - just kind of a Roosevelt outgrowth of rural electric co-ops, phone co-ops." (David Lightman and William Douglas, "Health Care Debate Exposes Regional Rift For Democrats," McClatchy Newspapers, 9/3/09)

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA): Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) agreed with Conyers's ominous analysis and warned that House liberals will not settle for the kind of compromise that might be necessary in the Senate. "You're asking whether or not we will support some other alterative to public option, and I want to be very, very clear," she told MSNBC's Ed Schultz. "We've got to have a public option. I will not vote for anything that doesn't have a public option." (Eric Zimmermann, "Black Caucus Members: It's Public Option Or Nothing," The Hill 9/9/09)

Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY): Reform proponents like Congressman Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) say he won't have the votes for one that doesn't. "Having a plan that doesn't have a public option is worse than having doing nothing at all," he said. "Leaving the insurance companies in charge of this is kind of like leaving a pyromaniac in charge of the fire department. (Don Dahler, "No Public Option Is A Mistake," wcbstv.com, 8/17/09)

Rep. Lynn Woosley (D-CA): Woolsey said she will vote against any measure that lacks a "robust public option" based on the Medicare model and intended to compete with private insurance. Without it, health care remains "business as usual," Woolsey said by phone from an education conference in Banff, Alberta. "It's not reform without the public option." (Mike Coit, "Woolsey, House Liberals Demand 'Public Option' Health Plan," The Press Democrat, 8/18/09)

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Robust Public Option, no funding for abortion- Vote is forgone conclusion. GOP obstructionist on wrong side of History and out of touch once again with reality. Lets cut to the chase Congress get it done already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 10/01/2009
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Oh well, democrats can pull a defeat out of a winning hand any day. Of course the Democratic grassroots movement would just have to rise up and ensure each an every Democratic NO voter the personal loss of his or her district on election day. Yep, naysayers - two can play that game!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 09/24/2009
- FirstShirt I'm a Fan of FirstShirt 63 fans permalink

Now don't you progressives all feel much better? See, democrats are all on one page. Everyone has had a chance to go home and hear from the voters, remember them? Some of them are independents and really don't give a fat r*t's a** whether you are a dem or repub...ju­st do your job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 09/24/2009
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They should all be "whipped".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 09/10/2009
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all Pelosi and the Democrats need to remember is that the Bill damn well better include a robust public option at the least.

And all the Blue Dogs need to remember is what ACT BLUE and Daily Kos did to Joe Wilson. Less than 24 hours after Wilson's outburst against health care reform, his opponent for 2010 had $100,000 in his campaign fund from the liberals and the progressives.

If Blue Dogs don't think that progressives and liberals will support and fund opponents to them in their primaries, they don't understand 1. the power of the progressives and liberals in the party today and 2) the fact that we have labor on our side.

If the bill HAS a strong public option and Blue Dogs vote against it, they can join Joe Wilson in the pasture.

If the bill has no public option but some ridiculous inclusion such as a "trigger" or a "co-op" and Blue Dogs vote for it, they can join Joe Wilson in the pasture.

PUBLIC OPTION IS THE COMPROMISE­.--AND NOTHING LESS!
SINGLE PAYER IS THE SOLUTION.

Do you get it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 09/10/2009
- 19iowa62 I'm a Fan of 19iowa62 19 fans permalink
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Pelosi, love her or hate her, is a brilliant politician. She’s down in the trenches and in the end she will be more successful than any pundit has been predicting so far. Ignore the republican spin. They live in a fantasy world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 09/10/2009
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Kuptur a Blue Dog, please. She is about as anti Blue Dog as it gets. Yes, she is pro life, but so is Dennis Kucinich. Russ Feingold is pro 2nd Amendment, and Bernie Sanders stands strong against HB1 visas.

I say, If you want a public option use medacaid, instead of playing health insurance company.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 09/10/2009

Rep. Marcy Kaptur D-9th/OH is on BOTH lists!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 09/22/2009
- mikebarden I'm a Fan of mikebarden 11 fans permalink
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Ya know what Devo said:
Whip it good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 09/10/2009
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I suspect the GOP "Whip List" is a bit slanted to it's own side and purpose. The inclusion of Dems who have voiced support for the Public Option and their vote against any bill lacking it, is also a stretch.

Your use of this as a source is a bit like using the Allied Forces pre-D-Day "leaks" as the basis for defending against an invasion. All sorts of "information" was being sent out to confuse the other side.

Perhaps a better source for Dem voting predictions would be the Dem "Whip List"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 09/10/2009
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Any Dem. who does not stand up for the Public Option and strike down ANY bill without one, will be advising a cable network or lobbying for a hotel chain after next election cycle. The Progressive constituents have already let it be known. Loud and clear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 09/10/2009

I have faith that the Democrats will pass Health Care. It sounds as if the GOP Whip is trying to discourage the out come.

This is a great moment in history because the Health Care Industries have been confronted on their greedy business practices as well as those elected officials that allow them to aurthor legislation and hand deliver it to congress with the finger prints of these Industries all over it.

We need to pray for an exorcism for members of Congress who sell their souls to the devil for finacial gain while casting the American people aside allowing Corporations set policies that benifit them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 09/10/2009
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That's all the GOP can do. Is lie, manipulate, cheat, and steal. "When your at the bottom of a well, the only way you can go from there is up."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 09/10/2009
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But they are damn good at it. The stupids, and those that pander to the stupids.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 AM on 09/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 69 fans permalink

"aurthor" it is author
"finacial" it is financial
"benifit" it is benefit

not sharpest tack in the box are you?

laughing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 09/10/2009

As it was presented in the House, HR3200 is a rediculous piece of rubish that should never have seen the light of day - but will define the democrats in 2010 for sure. 101 of these folks have figured this out and have begun to rethink just how leftist they want to be - or keep their current coverage as Representatives.

It won't be what is currently offered, nor will it be what Mr. O spoke about exactly last night. There will be a bill that makes it out of the House - but it will be so much less than it is right now, Thank GOD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 09/10/2009
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I know all you GOP who have no good ideas want to kill health care reform because you think 94 will be repeated..­.won't happen. Instead, you will pay the price for the horrible behavior exhibited thus far-birthers, town hall gun toting wackos....­the list goes on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 09/10/2009
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Another neo-con who can only trash the people who are offering solutions without offering any solution of his/her own. Do you like insurance companies? Do you work for one? Do you have anything constructive to offer or is the sum total of your contribution misspelling the word "rediculous" and misrepresenting the positions of the 57 Progressive Dems who want the President to go farther left?
Of the "101 of these folks" that you claim "have begun to rethink just how leftist they want to be", 57 are Progressives who are advocating a reform plan that is even farther left!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 09/10/2009
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Every time I see those polls that ask the question, "Do you approve of the job Obama is doing". You have to remember it includes all the conservatives, and the liberals that are frustrated that he is not kicking their a$$es to the curb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 AM on 09/11/2009
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OMG - this is the best news ever - if the GOP whip says Pelosi doesn't have the votes to pass healthcare - then this bill will be passed with a large majority. The Whip wouldn't have said it unless it was untrue!

Yippee! The US is going to get Healthcare Reform - pass it on!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 09/10/2009
- truesteam I'm a Fan of truesteam 27 fans permalink

So true, so true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 09/10/2009
- Periwinkle I'm a Fan of Periwinkle 50 fans permalink

Exactly right! It's become apparent that members of the GOP are wired to lie from birth so if they say reform is going down, it's time to schedule that past due doctor's appointment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 09/10/2009
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Regardless of the perceived outcome, Pelosi must push for a strong bill and push for a vote.
The politicians must be on record as being for the people or for the insurance companies.
How they vote regardless of whether the legislation passes or not is an imperative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 09/10/2009
- rad21 I'm a Fan of rad21 19 fans permalink

Healthcare is not a political issue. I hope politicians do not make it one. Many knowledgeable about healthcare, and make a living developing serious policy, can design a healthcare system. The problem, they have to time to waste, fighting the rotten money-greased politicians and their fellow travelers. Some of these border on being ignorant hacks or insurance company employees. The problem now, the insurance companies spend more time, money and human resources on rescission - eliminating policy-holders when they get sick, than on making sure their policy holders get appropriate care, using a system of social workers and nurse-counselors.

Congress can pass laws making healthcare mandatory; thus bringing everybody into the insurance pool, eliminating cost-shifting and making healthcare and its cost cheaper for all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 09/10/2009
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Health care is not a political issue. Control of health care is, in fact, a political issue. Do not think the two are the same, they are not. What Obama and Congress are proposing is control of health care. That makes it political. If a plan requires the purchase of health insurance from any source, including the government, or risk a fine by the IRS, then the issue is control, not health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 09/10/2009
- FirstShirt I'm a Fan of FirstShirt 63 fans permalink

Health care is not an issue. There is bipartisan support for health care reform. Unfortunately, their isn't an interest by liberals in bipartisan law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 09/24/2009
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Yeah. Right. We're gonna trust the vote count of the same bunch who stole the Florida vote in 2000, who lied about Saddam's WMD, and who (if you remember back a couple of decades) tried to convince us that ketchup is a vegetable.

Anyone who acts on the blue-sky forecasts of Cantor, Rove et al deserve what they get.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 09/10/2009
- FirstShirt I'm a Fan of FirstShirt 63 fans permalink

Are these the same people who voted to go into Iraq? Like Hillary? and the same people who were in the majority for the last two years of Bush? Those people? The ones who railed for toxic mortgages as a social program? Those people?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 09/24/2009
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