Dems Plan To Admonish Wilson For Insult

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BEN EVANS and SEANNA ADCOX | 09/11/09 10:48 PM | AP

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Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C. speaks to reporters outside of his office on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Sept. 10, 2009. (AP Photo/Harry Hamburg)

WASHINGTON — Democratic leaders are planning a House vote early next week to admonish Republican Rep. Joe Wilson if he does not apologize on the House floor for yelling "You lie!" during President Barack Obama's health care address to Congress.

National attention from the heckling episode has money pouring into Wilson's campaign treasury and that of his 2010 Democratic challenger. Wilson had raised more than $700,000 since the incident as of Friday, according to the National Republican Congressional Committee. His opponent, Rob Miller, had received more than $1 million from 25,000 donors nationwide, said his campaign manager, Lindsay Zoeller.

Democratic leaders initially showed mixed interest in punishing Wilson. But they decided at a meeting late Thursday that they probably will propose a resolution of disapproval early next week if he doesn't apologize to Congress, said Brendan Daly, a spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

While not a formal censure or reprimand, the resolution, if passed as expected, would put Congress on record as condemning Wilson's conduct.

Wilson, who was criticized by Republicans and Democrats for his outburst, told Obama he was sorry shortly after the incident Wednesday night. But he has refused requests from both parties to apologize on the House floor. Wilson's office says the congressman considers his initial apology sufficient.

Obama said Thursday he accepted Wilson's apology, telling reporters that "we all make mistakes." The White House said it considered the matter over, and Pelosi, D-Calif., initially said she wanted move on.

But many Democrats remain angry and have pressed for further action. They say Wilson clearly violated House rules.

"This is about how elected officials should be conducting themselves in the well of the U.S. House of Representatives," Rep. James Clyburn of South Carolina, the third-ranking House Democrat, said in an interview Friday.

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The White House had no comment on the plan for a House resolution.

Wilson also has taken a more combative tone since his apology.

In a video posted on his campaign Web site, he said he let his emotions get away from him during Obama's speech but added, "I will not be muzzled. I will speak up and speak loudly."

Wilson said his critics want to use the incident to silence opponents of health care reform.

"I need your help now," he said, soliciting donations.

In 2008, Wilson took 54 percent of the vote in beating Miller, a former Marine.

For their rematch next year, Miller already has raised more money in the past two days than the roughly $625,000 he spent for that race.

Wilson spent nearly $1.3 million for the 2008 cycle. The health care industry – among South Carolina's largest economic sectors – has traditionally been his top contributor.

His top 20 career donors include the American Hospital Association, the Lexington Medical Center and the American Dental Association, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Wilson shouted "You lie!" after Obama said in his address to Congress that illegal immigrants would not be eligible for low-cost health care.

The Democratic proposals explicitly prohibit spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get health care. Still, Republicans say there aren't sufficient citizenship verification requirements to ensure illegal immigrants are excluded.

Wilson, a former state senator elected to Congress in 2001, is known as a mild-mannered lawmaker with hard-line conservative views. But he has been confrontational in the past.

In 2003, Wilson called it "unseemly" and a "smear" for the mixed-race daughter of Sen. Strom Thurmond, Essie Mae Washington-Williams, to identify the longtime South Carolina senator as her father after his death. After a public outcry, he said he had the utmost respect for Washington-Williams.

Wilson returned to South Carolina on Friday morning and doesn't plan to make any public appearances Friday or Saturday, his spokesman said.

About 40 people gathered Friday evening outside Wilson's West Columbia office for a rally promoted on blogs. Wilson did not attend. But those gathered said they wanted to show support amid what they called attacks on Wilson's character, and praised him as a hero.

Attendees wore shirts that read "Palin 2012" and "Dare to say NO to Obama and Socialism!"

"Joe's my hero. He said what we all wanted to say to Barack Obama," said William Browning, 55.

"Maybe Joe shouldn't have said it in that venue, but he's apologized," Browning said. "I hope he sticks to his guns. If they reprimand him, so be it."

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Adcox reported from Columbia, S.C.

WASHINGTON — Democratic leaders are planning a House vote early next week to admonish Republican Rep. Joe Wilson if he does not apologize on the House floor for yelling "You lie!" during Preside...
WASHINGTON — Democratic leaders are planning a House vote early next week to admonish Republican Rep. Joe Wilson if he does not apologize on the House floor for yelling "You lie!" during Preside...
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- richsmith I'm a Fan of richsmith 8 fans permalink

I find it very sad that so many of the words of the wonderfully rich English language have been cheapened by overuse and misapplication. "Hero" has been horribly misused by people over the full spectrum of political and social ideologies. I am sure that word must have been written or voiced in reference to President GW Bush as he strutted about on the deck of the Lincoln in his flight suite and his well stuffed codpiece, at the very same time that real US warrior causalities were just at the beginning of their tragic, multi-year increase in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 09/14/2009
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 22 fans permalink

Oh yeah...let's spend time on this one...
Work on the economy and the stimulus and the jobless rate and the stock market and the war that is going on.

He apologized to Pres. Obama and apology was accepted...why is Congress wasting time on this instead of on what they are supposed to be doing.
Make him stand in the corner and then the Dems in the outraged
Congress will be happy because they accomplished something.
Maybe they can organize a beer party for the Pres. and Wilson and call it a day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 09/14/2009
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Mark my words Clyburn will not be re-elected. Wilson will be re-elected. The people of South Caroliina are Conservative Black or White. They will fight to save our Constitution just like they did in 1861. Maybe we should have a Secession because we are not Succeeding and our freedom is dwindling

Live free or Die

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 09/14/2009
- indy100 I'm a Fan of indy100 23 fans permalink
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Jeez, is EVERYTHING about color with you people in South Carolina? The world, and the US is a diverse place and getting more diverse everyday. Maybe you should consider moving into the 21st century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 09/14/2009
- agb100 I'm a Fan of agb100 2 fans permalink

WILSON's latest comment:

I am not backing down.

The reason Wilson is not backing down is not because he is a racist.

He is not backing down because if anyone has read the bill...and most or you have not...

You would find that:

OBAMA LIED.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 09/13/2009
- lynettema I'm a Fan of lynettema 53 fans permalink

Go to Politico where they might appreciate your "spin" (lies). We all know the facts here at HP. Don't waste your breath.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 09/13/2009
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 22 fans permalink

Funny that the Congress passed a bill and included language that made it clear about the illegals not being included.
So, that outburst must have brought something to their attention.
Now they want to punish because they had to backtrack.
Congress could take a good look in the mirror if they want to do any admonishing.
However, it wasn't the right time or place for Wilson to do this but it did get results so he wasn't all wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 09/14/2009

Please cut and paste the section of the bill you are referring to.

Then let us know why ANYONE would offer a bill that gives free healthcare to illegal aliens!!! All of those involved will eventually be running for office again. Why would they alienate (no pun intended) their constituents by doing this? Do you really believe Dems are less interested in reelection than Reps?

Also, consider the fact that the speech was presented to all in attendance well in advance. Carried away with emotion? Come on! The guy is known for absolutely nothing in Congress and suddenly he provides a line for the tea party folk of America and Fox News? This is a politician we're talking about. They are well versed in what to say and where to say it. Let's see what he runs for next.

The fact of the matter is there are several talking points that rile up the right (well researched by Conservative think tanks): abortion (the Abortion Mandate), raising taxes (heathcare will cost too much), illegal aliens ("You lie), and socialism. If you notice, these points are mentioned in every Rep speech. Political fact: if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes true (at least in the minds of your followers).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 09/19/2009

Funny thing is, the same people screaming about tax payer funded healthcare receive 75% of their healthcare costs from TAXPAYERS! Go to the federal employee healthcare site and be amazed. They have a veritable hospital complete with staff on site. So while you're sitting in the ER for 10 hours with chest pains, know that your Congressman/woman ISN'T ---thanks to your tax $$

I wonder how many Reps turn down their tax payer funded healthcare? Oh, and be sure to read up on how long their family members receive healthcare after the Congress person passes away. Gee, I don't think we get that kind of coverage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 09/19/2009
- JayeSF I'm a Fan of JayeSF 22 fans permalink

Gotta do it...Way to go, Clyburn, for pushing this. Now that j#ck#ss wilson is acting like some sort of martyr.

president Obabam, right there in his speech, said himself: 'we will call you out'.

NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF A PRESIDENTIAL ADDRSS TO CONGRESS HAS ANY CONGRESSMAN EVER CROSSED THE LINE LIEK wilson DID.

There absolutely MUST be House action taken.

Can you imagine, just for a moment, if a Democrat had yelled this at dumb#ss dubya during a speech ? Can you imagine how long that Dem would have lasted ? Not even 24 hours. Mainstream media would have crucified him, repoobs would have been acting victimized.....and his career would have been ruined....

Sooo...Dems...you say you are ready to fight the lies ?...Then.....time to serve up some just desserts.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 09/13/2009
- lynettema I'm a Fan of lynettema 53 fans permalink

Silence denotes acceptance. Wilson not only disrespected the President, he disrespected the House of Representatives. While the right wing fringe would go after any Democrat, the effort the fringe has gone to marginalize this president is unprecedented.

evacalifornia wrote:
As a liberal Democrat, I've done some outreach with conservative groups such as "tea partiers" and have noted a distinct change in tone since the summer.

We need to stand strong behind our President in the face of this. It doesn't mean that we rubber-stamp everything the President does, but it does mean raising our voices LOUDLY to show that we are behind the President's originally promised agenda - and right now that means health care reform with a robust public option.

The right wing loves authority and confidence. Let's show it to them in spades.

We need to show the right wing the only thing they understand:

We will not back down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 09/13/2009
- BlueZoo I'm a Fan of BlueZoo 43 fans permalink

Does anyone recall the last chapter of "Band of Brothers" when Captain Sobel walks past Colonel Winters without acknowledging him? Winters yells "Captain Sobel! You salute the office, not the man!" That's the difference Representative Wilson hasn't learned as yet! There is a respect due to the Office of the Presidency, even if you are not happy with the President himself. (Representative John Lewis commented that if this sort of thing goes on in our Congress then what do you expect from the people at these town hall meetings - and I could not agree more!) I have disagreed with President Obama, particularly on his handling of the Wall Street crisis, but I have never referred to him as "Barry" or other snide remarks that have been made in here and in our national MSM. It is a gross breach of respect that Representative Wilson made and he owes the American people and his own colleagues an apology!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 09/12/2009
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BlueZoo I agree with you 100%.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 09/13/2009
- texhall00 I'm a Fan of texhall00 12 fans permalink
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Agree

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 09/13/2009
- vgirl1 I'm a Fan of vgirl1 49 fans permalink

May his loud mouth, disrespectful speech and unconscionable behavior be recorded in the House of Representatives' record for all time under a resolution of condemnation.

He has disgraced himself, the Republican party name, the floor of the House of Representatives, and the American people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 09/12/2009

Speak for yourself the truth hurts thanks Joe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 09/12/2009

I second that. W. endured MUCH worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 09/13/2009
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he voiced the words of the majority that are being Stifled by the liberal press who think that the are the brains and power in America, just as the liberal progressive think they are the true voice, but the true voice of America walked that street of DC on 9-12

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 09/14/2009
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"majority"?!! dilusional.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 09/16/2009

to vgirl1

I will never forget that Pete Stark was forced by Nancy Pelosi to apologize to George Bush for making an angry remark about the President laughing while our troops being killed in Iraq. Stark hadn't lied, but he was forced to apologize in the House of Representatives, with all the tv cameras covering it.
George Bush had been to one of those White House Press Corp events wherein he ran around the stage saying "where are those weapons of mass destruction? They must be around here somewhere." He pretended to look under chairs and tables, etc. The press corp laughed as if it was the funniest thing they'd ever seen, and those cowards weren't laughing AT him; they were laughing WITH him. Disgusting. Pete Stark was fighting back tears when he made his apology, but he made it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 09/15/2009
- cwcarman I'm a Fan of cwcarman 10 fans permalink

It is funny that the South is the epicenter of racism, religious fundamentalism, militarism, god bless Americanism and most of them want to secede from the Union. I, for one, would let them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 09/12/2009
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LOL ... good one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 09/13/2009
- indy100 I'm a Fan of indy100 23 fans permalink
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I'll second that. Are they aware that when they secede from the Union all those Federal dollars go away?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 09/14/2009
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I would love to hear, Barney Frank, tear this guy a new one. Barney has proven to be the only party member with a spine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 09/12/2009

Not sure I would use this analogy with Barney Frank.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 AM on 09/14/2009
- ThanksMatt I'm a Fan of ThanksMatt 93 fans permalink
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Admonishing is not enough, he needs to get a tough punishment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 AM on 09/12/2009
- Fergie1 I'm a Fan of Fergie1 5 fans permalink

Yes, absolutely the priority is to get the Healthcare legislation done and not allow distractions.

However, Joe Wilson''s outburst in the Chamber directed at President Obama, was pretty obviously premeditated, contributing to the chorus of GOP "distractions." His apology was empty and only done because he was instructed to do so by the Repubs, thus rendering his apology insincere.

I'm sure that the Speaker of the House can run and chew gum at the same time, so there is no reason why Wilson can't be reprimande­d/sanction­ed to ensure the standards and rules of the Chamber are kept. The alternative is chaos - just look at Taiwan's or Russia's politicians in action!
Oh, or maybe that's how the GOP would prefer we conduct ourselves!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 AM on 09/12/2009

The sane people have left the Republican Party and joined either Independents or Democrats-or they remain free from any affiliation. That means that the base of the GOP consists of its leftovers, the dregs. This residue of pathetic people are trying to create their principles from the ideas and behaviors that sane republicans cast off and left behind as being anti-American, uncivilized, ignorant, vile, low life, insane and/or dissolute.

That most of the detritus of a once viable party are mainly Southerners does not surprise anyone, nor does the racism associated with them. I had hoped that the term, “Southern degenerate,” had left the language for good, but I am hearing/seeing it used again in reference to the leftovers and their thoughts and behaviors. Surely this is not what is meant by the platitude, “The South will rise again”? Whatever, the Republicans still in Congress have a rather large pill to swallow-about the size of a cement block- and that they are gagging at it is obvious to everyone: how can they stay in the good graces of what is left of their base (the GOP dregs) without losing their own self respect and character. “Youlie Wilson” made his wretched peace with the dregs long before his vile declaration during the President’s speech to Congress, and I think that he and his supporters have well earned whatever expression of disgust one might choose to use regarding their character and behavior.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 09/12/2009
- lynettema I'm a Fan of lynettema 53 fans permalink

You didn't name the Blue Dogs, Republican who have infiltrated the Democratic party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 09/13/2009

How about you plan to fix healthcare and quit wasting time?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 09/12/2009

They should deal with Wilson NOW . What happens if another Joe tries something like this . We will wish they had delt with him and the repugs . The president deserves respect .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 AM on 09/12/2009
- DIAGUY I'm a Fan of DIAGUY 7 fans permalink

The president will receive respect when he EARNS it. So far his constant provoking of the right and his 'thug-like" tactics of handling issues that could easily be handled with an 'olive branch', is not what we were promised. A president that surrounds himself with radicals and fringe types can not be successful. I have never wanted a vote back more than the one I loaned him. I"ll be sure to cancel one out in 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 09/12/2009
- Wombaticus I'm a Fan of Wombaticus 31 fans permalink
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Nancy, nobody really cares about yet another loudmouth GOP critic of Obama.

Get the bloody health care reform DONE!
We don"t want to hear about you doing anything else until its DONE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 09/12/2009
- Fergie1 I'm a Fan of Fergie1 5 fans permalink

Wombaticus.......oh yes we do care! Explanation of why is in my post above, so won't repeat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 AM on 09/12/2009
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