Water Bottle Deposits To Start This Fall In NY

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MICHAEL VIRTANEN | 09/ 9/09 12:05 PM | AP

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ALBANY, N.Y. — Mandatory deposits on water bottles are expected to start this fall in New York, while the Paterson administration considers changes that would extend them to other beverages, including sugared water, iced tea and sports drinks.

"It's something we're seriously considering," said Judith Enck, chief environmental adviser to Gov. David Paterson, with backing of at least one major bottling company. Another possible addition to the law would make deposit bottles redeemable at all stores, not just those that sell a particular brand, which would make returns easier, she said.

The exception for water containing sugar has drawn sharp criticism, especially because Paterson's public policy goals include battling obesity. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., prosecuting attorney for the Riverkeeper organization, who has his own water bottling company, called the measure "an ugly sausage cooked up by lobbyists" that gives sugary drink producers an unfair competitive advantage.

The required nickel deposit plus the handling fee will raise retail prices more than $2 for a 24-pack of water, including grocery generic brands, said James Rogers, president of the Food Industry Alliance of New York State.

"That's where people will see the biggest difference," he said.

With nearly 2.5 billion bottles sold annually in the state, environmentalists mainly want to see the water bottle deposits established. They're worried that tinkering, and business lobbying against deposits, could undermine their major legislative victory from April.

A federal injunction blocked the law this summer, though U.S. District Judge Deborah Batts is expected to lift it after a hearing Oct. 22. She warned water bottlers they would need to show her why she shouldn't life the injunction.

"Water is about 25 percent of the overall beverage market," said Laura Haight, senior environmental associate for the New York Public Interest Research Group, adding that improvements could come later. "With the expansion we're capturing about 90 percent of the beverages we believe should have deposits on them."

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Earlier state laws required deposits on soda and other carbonated beverages, beer, and wine coolers, with a study showing they raised aluminum can recycling from less than 20 percent to more than 80 percent.

Eleven states have at least some mandatory bottle deposits, and legislation has been introduced in Congress, according to the Bottle Bill Resource Guide. Connecticut's water bottle deposits take effect Oct. 1. In New York, exempt beverages includes milk, juice, wine and liquor.

Brian Flaherty, director of public affairs for Nestle Waters North America, a plaintiff in the federal lawsuit, said his organization is not challenging the deposits but needs time to set up new systems for labels, accounting and collecting returned bottles. He didn't know whether the group would ask the judge for an extension beyond Oct. 22. Its dozen brands include Poland Spring.

"We're doing everything we can to be ready," Flaherty said, adding they back expansion to other drinks. "There is absolutely no environmental basis to draw the line between different types of water, and frankly there is no basis to draw the line in putting water in but not sports drinks, not teas and other things."

Enck estimated sugared waters now comprise about 2 percent of the bottled water market. Their exemption resulted from a compromise with lawmakers and concerns that downstate stores had limited space and didn't want sugary bottle residues attracting vermin, though they already take soda and beer bottles, she said.

"Contrary to what Robert Kennedy said about the Legislature being in the thralls of sugar lobby, that's not how that decision came down," Haight said. It was done in closed-door budget negotiations, a deal that apparently surprised business opponents who weren't even talking about details, she said.

Batts in August permitted two key provisions of New York's new law to take effect, raising the handling fee from 2 cents to 3.5 cents per bottle for redemption centers and stores that take returns, and allowing the state to collect 80 percent of unclaimed deposits. New York officials recently issued rules with financial provisions retroactive to June 1, when the law was scheduled to take effect.

Judge Thomas Griesa and Batts blocked another provision, requiring New York-specific codes on bottles, finding it a violation of the U.S. Constitution's commerce clause.

ALBANY, N.Y. — Mandatory deposits on water bottles are expected to start this fall in New York, while the Paterson administration considers changes that would extend them to other beverages, inc...
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- me again I'm a Fan of me again 29 fans permalink

Time to let some of the State bureaucrats go instead.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 09/14/2009
- MIKEinNYC I'm a Fan of MIKEinNYC 61 fans permalink
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Right now in the state of New York you pay a deposit on a bottle or can when the container contains a carbonated beverage.

If the very same container does not contain a carbonated beverage there is no deposit.

Does this make sense? The motivation behind this is to recycle the containers. It should make no difference what's in the container.

I'd institute a deposit on all such beverage container regardless of what's in them.

More containers would get recycled and the state would pick up a few quid for the containers that do not get recycled.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 09/13/2009
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 63 fans permalink
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agreed but yankees are capitalist tools, just like forbes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 09/14/2009
- JamieNYC I'm a Fan of JamieNYC 2 fans permalink

This article ignores an important perspective -- the millions of NY residents who diligently make sure [by law] that they recycle their bottles for pick-up every week. And I've heard two side to that story as well (again with no perspective from this article) that the collectors of those bottles turn a profit from it, and that their profits may or may not be real -- based on government subsidies to support the enforcement of curbside recycling, i.e., we pay for recycling through our taxes.

So the what’s the point of 5-cent deposits anyway? Now I need another trash bin for my refundable bottles...? In the 5 Boroughs especially, curbside trash bins and bags will be ripped apart even more by scavengers in search of Poland Spring bottles.

I'm all for advocating recycling and conservation, but this new law seems to lack some well needed sophistication, and more importantly, common sense.

Here’s a suggestion: If we have to pay for deposits on bottled water, may we please receive a tax break for the now unnecessary service of curbside bottle collections…?

And… to show NY residents this isn’t a cheap trick to increase tax revenue, how’s about offering a rebate program for residents to purchase and install water filter systems in their homes – if we were confident in drinking our tap water, we wouldn’t need to buy it, since we’re already paying water bills for our homes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 09/13/2009
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Great - bottle your own water, filter it, carry it in a steel bottle and keep the industrial water producers' profits low. We had an event in our local Brooklyn park yesterday and there were water bottles all over the place. At the very least, a bottle return tax will moderate that > Go NY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 09/13/2009
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