Obama: Confident Congress Will Pass "Good Health Care Bill"

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STEVEN R. HURST | 09/14/09 07:45 AM | AP

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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama began a week that will dwell heavily on overhauling the health care system, declaring himself confident Congress will pass "a good health care bill" even though some Republican opponents were trying to kill the measure for political gain.

At the same time, the president and some members of both parties were shifting from hard positions about a government insurance option toward some agreement on reducing medical care costs and restricting insurance company practices.

Consensus appeared to be growing on the need to prevent the insurance industry from denying coverage to those with existing medical conditions or canceling policies when a person becomes seriously ill.

"I believe that we will have enough votes to pass not just any health care bill, but a good health care bill that helps the American people, reduces costs, actually over the long-term controls our deficit. I'm confident that we've got that," Obama said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CBS' "60 Minutes."

Still, he said: "There are those in the Republican party who think the best thing to do is just to kill reform. That that will be good politics."

A Washington Post-ABC News poll published Monday found the public in a virtual deadlock on the Democrats' health plan, with 46 percent favoring the proposed changes and 48 percent against them. Americans are also closed divided on whether they should be required to have health coverage, with 51 percent in favor and 47 percent opposed.

The survey was conducted Thursday through Saturday, after the president's address to Congress, and had a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Obama has retaken the offensive on his key domestic policy issue, most notably with his speech last Wednesday night to both houses of Congress. And he sought to turn down the heat over a government-run health insurance plan.

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Obama's spokesman, Robert Gibbs, drove home that point again Sunday.

The president "prefers the public option," Gibbs said. "However, he said what's most important is choice and competition."

Sen. Olympia Snowe, the Maine Republican who could be the party's only senator who votes with Democrats, believes choice and competition can be ensured without the public option.

"It's not on the table. And it won't be," she said Sunday. "We'll be using the co-op as an option at this point, as the means for injecting competition in the process."

Snowe sits on a six-member panel – three from each party – of the Senate Finance Committee that is writing a version of the health care overhaul bill.

Instead of the government running a program that provides low-cost health insurance, Snowe and fellow negotiators are considering a not-for-profit cooperative system. Those backing the measure contend it would substantially lower health insurance premiums by cutting out private-industry profits and guarantee coverage to all who want it.

Such systems exist in some areas of the country but their success has been spotty.

Obama will have to be convinced that such a plan can succeed.

"I have no interest in having a bill get passed that fails. That doesn't work," Obama told CBS. "You know, I intend to be president for a while and once this bill passes, I own it."

Obama wants to make sure that any overhaul imposes strict measures to ban companies from refusing insurance to people with existing medical conditions, dropping coverage when policyholders become ill and imposing caps on what a person can claim for one illness or in his lifetime.

Obama is trying to sweeten the deal for Republicans by indicating he is open to their ideas.

In his Wednesday speech and again in the CBS interview, the president signaled he was open to so-called tort reform. Under current practice, doctors and hospitals must pay huge amounts to insure themselves against malpractice lawsuits by patients seeking large court-ordered settlements for poor treatment.

Democrats, thanks to heavy backing from lawyers, have not supported Republican efforts to limit such payments. Doctors – and Republican politicians – say the current system drives up costs through unneeded medical procedures ordered by physicians who fear being sued.

"I would be willing to ... consider any ideas out there that would actually work in terms of reducing costs, improving the quality of patient care," Obama said in the Sunday interview, which was taped Friday.

While he said he did not back limits on court-ordered rewards for malpractice, he said "there are a range of ideas that are out there, offered by doctors' organizations like the AMA (American Medical Association), that I think we can explore."

Gibbs spoke on CNN's "State of the Union." Snowe appeared on CBS' "Face the Nation."

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Oh good. Now we can all go home. Congress has it handled, right? Sure! Come on, Obama! The way you get people interested is to make it look like the change they want is possible, but the death star is about to win unless we pull out our strongest effort ever. Basically, keep the drama going. Otherwise, people will relax and coast, while the lobbyists keep hammering and the weak congresspeople -who've been looking for a way to underhandedly please their corporate masters- will take advantage of no one looking. We need to keep calling, writing, marching, SUPPORTING real health care reform until it's done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 09/17/2009
- sting7 I'm a Fan of sting7 4 fans permalink

I want to talk about the controversy about illegal aliens that that badly behaved man from South Carolina caused. As someone who has taken the hippocratic oath what the republicans want is unrealistic, because a doctor is meant to treat anyone who comes in for emergency treatment,
you CANNOT turn anyone away from emergency care and wilfully let them die, it doesnt matter whether the person is American or an illegal immigrant, doctors get into the practice because all life is sacred and deserves to be saved. I dont think any doctor will go ahead with this law because it goes against the hippocratic oath. This is government intervention in medicine that the republicans are pushing. Now I will go on to say that I do not support illegal immigration but I didnt go into practice to refuse emergency care to people. Notice my emphasis is on only emergency care

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 09/15/2009
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73% of Doctors want Single-Payer or Public Option New England Journal of Medicine

According to NEW WAP0-ABC P0LL 55% say they like the idea of a Public Option!

WHY Public Option Will be Signed into LAW:

1. 0dds of "b!partisan" c0nsensus=Near ZER0=Reduces Repub1icans’ Re1evance
Dem0crats will pass health insurance alone

2. Pund!ts ignore legis1ative facts: 4 of 5 committees reported out bills with public option
House Bill=Strong Public 0ption+ "House-Senate" final bill with P0 gets 50 v0tes in Senate

3. President=Very clear he supports Pub1ic 0ption+Demands competitive market prices
Repub1icans=argued States P1ans like Mass+Tenn=Highest Health Costs in USA

4. 73% of Doctors want Single-Payer or Public Option
55% of Americans strongly for Public 0ption in NEW Poll
[Poll Source: NEW WAP0-ABC P0LL]
V0ters=Want choice not having the choice made for them!

Summary of PANEL OF S1X:

Negative 95% VALUE = Grass1ey, Enz!, Sn0we!

Negative 100% = Ba_ucus, C0nrad

ZERO% = B!ngaman

IF NOT - Where is MY TH1RD PARTY?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 09/15/2009
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One Senate+Three House committees already included the PUBLIC OPTION and spent months plus thousands of hours doing it!

Facts Regarding Panel of SIX:

1. DEMOCRACY? 73% of Physicians want the PUBLIC OPTION!
2. 365 Electoral Votes for Democrats=365/538 = 68% of 6 is 4.08=round­ed to 4 Dems!
3. 173 Electoral Votes for Repubs=173/438 = 32% of 6 is 1.92=round­ed to 2 Repubs!
4. 60% Democrats in Senate=6 members should have 3.6=rounde­d to 4 Democrats!
5. 40% Republicans in Senate=6 members should have 2.4=rounde­d to 2 Repubs!
6. One Senate+Three House committees spent months plus thousands of hours developing/passing Health Care Bills including a Strong Public Option? 4 For 0 Against
7. Obama speech increased support for “public option” rising to 55% among Americans

Why is an unethically formed "PUBLIC OPTION DE@TH PANEL of SIX" of the most PA1D-0FF Politicians (by Health Care Industries see below) which ignores the Electoral Balance in the Senate and the Electoral Vote for 0BAMA given any P0WER to override FOUR other Bills?

ONE POSSIBLE REASON = EL1TE CORPORATOCRACY!

PUBLIC OPTION is the “DEMOCRACY” THING TO DO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 09/15/2009
- Beca I'm a Fan of Beca 44 fans permalink

You are correct, have you called and written to your elected representative and President Obama to remind them of their responsibilities to the American people? If not, I suggest you do so immediately, and do it daily. Don't let up until they listen. We all need to do this or we will once again be drowned out by the hysterical imbeciles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 AM on 09/15/2009
- munki I'm a Fan of munki 34 fans permalink
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We need a good government option...

Japan's government option - premium depends on your income/aff­ordability­...

Coverage is 70% but the cost is very reasonable­...

MRI is $300 NOT $3,000 in the US... I really enjoy learning their system...

No wonder... LONGEVITY !!!! Preventative care as well...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 09/14/2009
- ramal I'm a Fan of ramal 72 fans permalink
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Unless the bill has a strong public option it is NO GOOD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 09/14/2009
- Beca I'm a Fan of Beca 44 fans permalink

Have you written daily to your elected representatives about this? If not, you have to do start now. Don't just say it here, say it repeatedly to your representatives and to the President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 09/15/2009
- rigmoten I'm a Fan of rigmoten 4 fans permalink

Imagine if Obama was bush, he'd pass the bill and use a signing statement to make the co-ops act as a government run insurance option.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 09/14/2009
- sixx I'm a Fan of sixx 11 fans permalink
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Obama Confident Congress Will Pass "Good Health Care Bill" When The Industry Has Finished Writing It.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 09/14/2009
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In 1519, the Aztec emperor Montezuma did everything he could to placate the invader from Spain, Hernán Cortéz. He opened his treasury, invited him to a great banquet, assigned slaves to take care of his every need. And how do you think that turned out?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 09/14/2009
- Wallysmom I'm a Fan of Wallysmom 84 fans permalink
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You need to have health care insurance. I don't care what the goofy goobers out there are saying about "I don't want it". You are being a blight on others if you decide that you don't want to pay for your own insurance. Why? Because if you saw off your foot with a McCullough, somebody will have to pay for your ambulance ride, for your 5 IV drips, for your catheter and your nice little bed in the ER. It won't be you because you are a leech. It will be higher premiums for everyone else that has Screwum Insurance Company policies. Even those on state assistance are given insurance. And you know those nice men who mow your lawn but hop in the truck when a green Ford LTD drives past? They get injured, go to the Emergency Rooms in hospitals across the country, and are treated. Who pays for them? Everyone who has insurance. And the RepubLICKins are demanding they not get insurance. They get it anyway. Mow your own darn lawn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 09/14/2009
- Dale Larson I'm a Fan of Dale Larson 208 fans permalink
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"You need to have health care insurance. I don't care what the goofy goobers out there are saying about "I don't want it"."

Yep... these folks don't even acknowledge their own experience­s.... All of us are born in the health care system, we live life accessing the health care system (if you're lucky) and finally die in the health care system.

A story that is very close to home to highlight this...

My brother-in-law was in the insured 85% group... until he was robbed and shot in the knee by the thief. He's a carpenter so he was instantly out of work, out of insurance and out of income. He became part of the other 15% THROUGH NO FAULT OF HIS!

This current system is a total nightmare. If you don't see it it's because you really haven't NEEDED your insurance or the job that you could lose in a heartbea..­..ummm... a GUNSHOT that maintains your ACCESS to health care.

Wake up people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 09/14/2009
- Wallysmom I'm a Fan of Wallysmom 84 fans permalink
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You, I and others have been saying this all along. It's easy to say you don't want healthcare reform when you've got a $100k a year job, stock options and the GOLD PLATINUM PREMIUM MEGAWATT Plan. So many lose their insurance, like your brother-in-law, and more will with unemployment rising. Had your brother-in-law not lost his job, the insurance company probably would have told him he wasn't covered because he didn't follow the required preauthorization procedures and let the hospital know the thief was going to shoot him in the knee ahead of time. "O.K. I'm preauthorized by UnitedHealthcare, you can shoot me in the knee now, but only the knee...I'm not approved for any wild shots to any other extremedie­s."

PS Hope he's better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 09/14/2009
- Dale Larson I'm a Fan of Dale Larson 208 fans permalink
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** SINGLE PAYER LINK-O-RAMA **

http://hr676.org (Web site for HR 676)
http://johnconyers.com/hr676text (Text of HR 676)
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/8800.php (Single Payer analysis)
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/05222009/watch2.html (Single-payer on Bill Moyer)
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08282009/watch.html (Money driven medicine)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/29988909/sick_and_wrong/ (Rolling Stone - Sick and Wrong)
http://ushealthcrisis.com/2009/09/real-canadians-talking-real-health-care/ (Canadians talk about health care) http://www.pnhp.org/news/2008/february/10_myths_about_canad.php (Canadian System Myths)
http://www.health.gov.bc.ca/msp/infoben/benefits.html (BC Canada Benefits)
http://www.health.gov.bc.ca/msp/infoben/premium.html (BC Canada Premiums)
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/health_care_stories/ (Universal care stories.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4tc-q5rtqE (The Choice)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMSV0wXGT48 (Health Insurance Challenge)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTh-Yu9RfF0 (Amendment to kill Medicare)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0fA2DfwFn4 (Agreement to allow house debate and vote for HR676)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmlDZXCrWRE (Morning Joe and Weiner)
http://silverbuzzcafe.com/?p=2836 (Proof That Socialized Healthcare Works Better Than Our System)
https://www.madashelldoctorstour.com/Mad_as_Hell_Video.html (Mad as hell docs)
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/06/21/health/policy/21poll_graphic_ready.html (NYT Public Payer Poll)
http://sickforprofit.com/ (like the title says)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 09/14/2009
- Wallysmom I'm a Fan of Wallysmom 84 fans permalink
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You have been a VERY BUSY BOY!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 09/14/2009
- Beca I'm a Fan of Beca 44 fans permalink

Thank you Dale, it helps to have all of these addresses in one place. I have little notes everywhere with different sites, and then when I want to find one I can't. This helps me send them to those I know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 09/15/2009
- Dale Larson I'm a Fan of Dale Larson 208 fans permalink
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Beca,

A tip for managing notes...

As my notes have expanded about these topics I've been having trouble managing them until I found this excellent freeware that keeps my notes available on the web and organized:

http://www.evernote.com/about/what_is_en/

It's fantastic and free. People can share notebooks as well. Quick searches through my notes are now a breeze. There are desktop apps that sync to the online data for even more power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 09/15/2009
- vanmungo I'm a Fan of vanmungo 66 fans permalink

Mr. Russell Mokhiber of www.singlepayeraction.org writes:

Congressman Joe Wilson calls President Obama a liar.

That’s disgraceful.

Some Democrats want him censured.

President Obama and the Democrats turn their backs on single payer — the only health care reform that covers everyone and control costs.

By so doing, they are condemning at least 60 Americans a day to death (Institute of Medicine report) due to lack of health insurance.

That’s disgraceful.

Eighty-six Democrats in the House are signed on to Congressman John Conyers’s (D-Michigan) single payer bill (HR 676).

But not one has said they will vote against the break the bank, leave tens of millions of Americans uninsured Obamacare.

Not even Conyers.

None of the so called “progressive caucus” has said they will vote against it.

HR 676 is being used a way to placate the Democrat’s progressive base.

Sure, we believe in single payer.

But no way we’re going out on a limb to fight for it.

That’s disgraceful.

The Democrats are supposed to be fighting for the people.

But they too are in the pockets of the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries.

Disgraceful.

Obama throws even the weak “public option” under the health insurance industry bus.

Katrina vanden Heuvel, the editor of The Nation, says that Obama shows “progressive spine.”

That’s disgraceful.

Civility is in the eyes of the beholder.

Obama and the Democrats are acting against the interests of the American people.

Uncivil.

Disgraceful.

Who will censure Obama and the Democrats?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 09/14/2009

I feel that below is the principal argument that should appeal to all Americans, whether left or right, informed or ignorant and should be driven home over and over:

One in every six dollars you earn and spend goes to ONE industry–insured or not, sick or not, the health care industry is fleecing ALL of us. Your paycheck is lower, the price for tires, theater tickets, groceries–­everything­â€“ is higher, because the health care industry is fleecing us. And we’re -not- getting our money’s worth.

Health care is the only part of our economy that really isn't even -close- to a market model. We now have an "interested" third party in the middle of very nearly -every- health care decision. And this third party is very nearly completely unaccountable to the marketplace, or to it's "constitue­nts."

What we have now cannot possibly be better than whatever a "reformed" model would look like. Protecting the status-quo and doing nothing would be a dangerous and stupid thing.

Unless we get the model more in line with our competitors in the world, we will certainly witness the decline and fall of the American experiment. That's not hyperbole: If you spend 18% and growing on one thing that everybody else spends 9% or less on, you -can't- be competitive.

Whatever you think of Obama or your Congresscritters or government in general, we have got to do something real and meaningful now.

What do you think?

UncleRon

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 09/14/2009
- Wallysmom I'm a Fan of Wallysmom 84 fans permalink
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Meaningful, yes. Agree 100%.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 09/14/2009
- Dale Larson I'm a Fan of Dale Larson 208 fans permalink
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Rolling Stone:

"In the real world, nothing except a single-payer system makes any sense. There are currently more than 1,300 private insurers in this country, forcing doctors to fill out different forms and follow different reimbursement procedures for each and every one. "

HR676 http://hr676.orgg) Single Payer system that is proven, pro-business and pro-people:

* Slashes at least 30% of costs off the top by removing private insurance overhead.
* Companies take health care expenses off their books. Stock value increases. Better able to compete internationally.
* Small companies could have access to higher skilled workers because previously they couldn't compete in the labor market by offering similar benefits.
* More entrepreneurial ventures will launch since they have more money and less unrelated risk.
* Dramatic drop in bankruptcies.
* Dramatic drop in lawsuits. Most of these lawsuits are simply to obtain money to cover health care if something interrupts their coverage.
* Reduced system complexity. Greater efficiency due to fewer regulations.
* Savings from employees not having to fight with their insurers during work hours.
* HSA and MSA dollars redirected back into the economy for goods and services.
* Additional money to spend from not having to carry "uninsured motorist coverage" on your auto policy.
* Contract employment is more viable for workers since they are guaranteed access to health care.
* People are covered when unemployed. No chance of being wiped out financially if you lose your job.
* Health care providers (doctors, hospitals, therapists­...) see increase

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 09/14/2009
- theone718 I'm a Fan of theone718 23 fans permalink
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No PO=NO VOTE FROM ME

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 09/14/2009
- Lazslo I'm a Fan of Lazslo 9 fans permalink

If the statement in Obama's address to Congress last week, "a public option was always only a means to an end" doesn't wake up all liberals to the fact that there will be no public option in Obama's "health care reform", then you're not listening. Obama's health care reform = lower costs, higher profits and more subscribers to insurance company health plans. End of story. Progressives and liberals better wake up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 09/14/2009
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Hey, that means we need MORE PROGRESSIVES and MORE LIBERAL SENATORS, not less. It's your team that is the one messing this up, not the progressives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 09/14/2009
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