Mike Mullen: More Troops Needed For Afghan War

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ANNE GEARAN | 09/15/09 09:47 PM | AP

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Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Sept. 15, 2009, before the Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on his reappointment. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's top military adviser endorsed an increase in U.S. forces for the worsening war in Afghanistan on Tuesday, setting up a split with leading Democrats in Congress and complicating an already-tough decision for the president himself.

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the war is growing more complicated and the enemy gaining in sophistication. Winning will require more resources from outside Afghanistan, including more troops, Mullen told Congress.

"A properly resourced counterinsurgency probably means more forces, and without question, more time" and dedication, Mullen said.

Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the U.S. commander in charge of both American and NATO forces in Afghanistan, delivered a grim assessment of the war to Washington last month and is expected to follow up soon with a request for thousands of additional troops and more equipment.

That will leave Obama to decide whether to expand a war that polls say is rapidly losing public support in the U.S. and drawing pointed criticism in Congress. He has already roughly doubled the size of the American military force in Afghanistan since taking office, with only limited gains to show. Obama has an ambitious strategy to turn around a war that will soon enter its ninth year, and his aides say the plan needs time to work.

Mullen said he does not know how many additional troops McChrystal will request, but he left no doubt that the commander has concluded that the 21,000 U.S. troops Obama has already approved are not enough.

Sitting opposite Mullen, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee was unswayed. Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan warned the White House last week that he does not want to see a request for more troops until the United States takes bolder action to expand Afghanistan's own armed forces.

"Providing the resources needed for the Afghan Army and Afghan police to become self-sufficient would demonstrate our commitment to the success of a mission that is in our national security interest, while avoiding the risks associated with a further increase in U.S. ground combat troops," Levin declared at Tuesday's hearing.

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Several other Democrats have said they want a clearer timeline and measures of progress from the administration before approving large expansions of the troop commitment or mission. Congress has approved most of the money Obama requested for the war so far, but a large troop increase would probably require a separate add-on spending bill.

The head of the House's defense spending panel, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., this week questioned the logic of adding troops.

"In Vietnam it took 500,000 troops and that didn't solve the problem," the Vietnam veteran told the foreign policy blog The Cable. "We have to take a different approach."

Recent national polls indicate slipping support for the war and growing doubt that it can be won. The latest AP-GfK survey found that less than half – 46 percent – now approve of Obama's handling of Afghanistan, a 9 percentage point drop since July.

A CNN poll conducted this month said 39 percent supported the war and 58 percent opposed it. That compared with 53 percent supporting and 46 percent opposing in early April, days after Obama announced a new war strategy and vowed to provide resources in ways his predecessor had not.

Fifty-one U.S. troops died in Afghanistan in August, more than in any other month since the U.S.-led invasion in October 2001.

Mullen spoke at a hearing on his nomination for a second term as the nation's highest-ranking military officer. He is expected to win easy confirmation.

Mullen's remarks, cautious as they were, are the first clear marker in an internal debate over Obama's next steps. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has not made up his mind whether to support a troop increase beyond the current level of 68,000, his spokesman said. Gates has long worried publicly that too large a force in Afghanistan would be self-defeating because Afghans would see the troops as occupiers, but he has recently sounded resigned to at least a small expansion.

At the State Department, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told reporters Tuesday that the administration would deliberate "for some time," suggesting no decision was imminent.

"Everyone is providing their best ideas and making their contributions about the way forward in Afghanistan," Clinton said.

The Senate committee's ranking Republican, John McCain of Arizona, said committing too few forces to the war would invite a rerun of mistakes the U.S. made in Iraq. "I've seen that movie before," said McCain, the 2008 GOP presidential nominee.

Although Mullen and other senior military leaders say the Afghan armed forces are the key to a successful U.S. exit from the war, Mullen suggested Tuesday that reliance on more Afghan training at the expense of full-on combat is a false choice.

"Sending more trainers more quickly will give us a jump-start, but only that," Mullen said. "Quality training takes time and patience."

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., took the point further. When Mullen told him it would take two to three years to train enough Afghan troops to do the job, Graham asked what would happen in Afghanistan in the meantime.

"I think the security environment will continue to deteriorate," Mullen replied.

Then Graham made a larger point about public support in the U.S., one that hung over all the specifics of troop levels and trainers and the abilities of the Afghan government.

"Do you understand you've got one more shot back home?" Graham asked, mentioning the poll results. "Do you understand that?"

"Yes, sir. Yes, sir."

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's top military adviser endorsed an increase in U.S. forces for the worsening war in Afghanistan on Tuesday, setting up a split with leading Democrats in Congr...
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's top military adviser endorsed an increase in U.S. forces for the worsening war in Afghanistan on Tuesday, setting up a split with leading Democrats in Congr...
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- Brute I'm a Fan of Brute 46 fans permalink

How dare you question Obama's strategy..­.......you­'re a racist!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 09/16/2009
- cadawa I'm a Fan of cadawa 21 fans permalink
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What is needed is not more troops but an immediate exit strategy. The little boys in the Pentagon do not want to admit that they can't win corporate wars or turn war crimes into legitimate conflicts.. They are willing to throw the lifes of your family, friends and relatives and a lion's share of the public wealth into the bonfire of their vanities.
Don't let 'em do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 09/16/2009
- ElsaIndy I'm a Fan of ElsaIndy 15 fans permalink

Yes what is the plan.........the answer is there is no plan. This is Vietnam all over again. Obama said he would focus on Afganistan so we were warned that this would happen. He will leave office with blood all over his hands just like Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 09/16/2009
- jimmygee I'm a Fan of jimmygee 9 fans permalink
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Lets go and go now from Iraq and this hell hole. What's the plan? Where's the end? Until we get the civilian run war Industry under control these stupid wars will gone in perpetuity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 09/16/2009
- piul05 I'm a Fan of piul05 52 fans permalink
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The Admiral shouldn't worry; if the recent decisions and standings by POTUS is anything to go by, he'll be having his extra troops sooner than he thinks.

Unfortunately.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 09/16/2009
- oregonrain I'm a Fan of oregonrain 13 fans permalink
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True, and , where does it end ? Next , we will need more troops for what , pakistan ? Somalia ? It just wont end !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 09/16/2009
- allwrite I'm a Fan of allwrite 14 fans permalink

Time to admit that we are in serious economic trouble on the home front. Time to admit that we lack the resources to continue this engagement. Bring the troops home; spend the dollars on the home front, say on infrastructure repair and improvement. If we can't get to go on this, then kiss this country goodbye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 09/16/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 83 fans permalink
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So WHO do you think is dictating the direction for our wars to Obama? Arms dealers? The military industrial complex? Cheney?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 AM on 09/16/2009
- MARNIE2 I'm a Fan of MARNIE2 2 fans permalink

..........COME ON...........CHENEY ?........YOU ARE...... PARANOID ! .... LOL ! ....... : )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 09/16/2009
- llisa I'm a Fan of llisa 28 fans permalink


What part of "unwinnable" do our leaders not understand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 09/16/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 83 fans permalink
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What part of Lying Wars of Greedy Profiteering does America NOT UNDERSTAND?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 AM on 09/16/2009

Perhaps the good general could dust off some of the press releases and speeches of General William Westmoreland from the late 60s. Remember we were beginning to see "light at the end of the tunnel" just before the Tet offensive.

This is, as Yogi would say, Dejavu all over again. This war was mostly about revenge. And OBL is still alive. Before we sacrifice another 2 or 3 thousand US soldiers and countless civilians, I say we draw back. We need to keep involved in surveillance, and keep a much closer eye on the Taliban, but it is time to redefine our priorities. We cannot do this, Vietnam taught us this once, and we are failing to learn the lessons history has for us.

Giordy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 09/15/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 257 fans permalink

200k mercenaries won't do it???????

THE USA HAS NO MORAL AUTHORITY!

Long past time to leave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 09/15/2009
- beartrack I'm a Fan of beartrack 30 fans permalink

This is insane. You know, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Looks like, smells like, Vietnam all over again. Stop feeding the military-industrial complex and get out now. There is no way to "win" in Afghanistan. By the way, why aren't we out of Iraq yet. Where's the change Mr. Obama. You want to pay for health insurance reform ?.......Here's your sign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 09/15/2009
- Billy Hell I'm a Fan of Billy Hell 44 fans permalink
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He will get his troops. The planned TAPI (Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India) gas pipeline will NOT be derailed. Get used to it and realize in the process that the US is in Afghanistan for the long haul.

Mega "embassies" like the Iraq "green zone" are already being built, there are plans for permanent military bases in the north of Afghanistan stretching right through to the south. In the not too distant future there will be more information available on agreements with Pakistan for port expansions in southern Pakistan, so that shipments of gas are facilitated and from where those oil company shipments can be protected by US Navy vessels.

What voters sentiments are about the invasion and occupation mean zip.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 09/15/2009
- oregonrain I'm a Fan of oregonrain 13 fans permalink
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fanned !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 09/16/2009

The old saying that when all you have is a hammer, every problem becomes a nail sure holds true here. The general wants more troops? Surprise, surprise. Oh, and by the way, we are told more troops are needed to ferret out improvised explosive devices. Does anyone wonder what happened to the many thousands of landmines ( still armed and still there) that we buried all over Afghanistan to fight the russians? They blow up unexpectedly - just like IED's. Hmmm... just a thought....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 09/15/2009
- MARNIE2 I'm a Fan of MARNIE2 2 fans permalink

you say .... hummer to a every problem become a nail .......then how does one ..convince..U B L-
TO STOP OBSESSING OVER THE W E S T & BEING HOSTILE..... -BE OF TOLERANCE !
HOW CAN YOU CHANGE THEIR THINKING ? IT'S THEIR .....BELIEFS ! ......A TERRORIST FOOT HOLD IN AFGHAN. -a... BASE -.....for al-QAIDA.... ? .......SO THEY CAN ...HAMMER US ....[911]....
......AGAIN.... ?.........­..........­..........­.........H­ELL NO !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 09/16/2009
- HJSV I'm a Fan of HJSV 3 fans permalink
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Generals always want more troops. We captured the country with a few well trained special ops guys. Really, why not just get our troops out of that rat hole and fill the Afgan skies with drones. Those fanatics are terrified of our drones and for good reason. We have slaughtered their leadership over the past year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 09/15/2009
- olephart I'm a Fan of olephart 105 fans permalink

Obama has been trying to get Republican support and now he’s got it. No, not on health care or economic aid for hard hit Americans it’s for the War in Afghanistan. It seems he’s getting more support from Republicans than Democrats for the blundering clusterfrack in Afghanistan. Now that’s change we can believe in!


“Obama has an ambitious strategy to turn around a war that will soon enter its ninth year,”

Congratulations, Nixon had an ambitious strategy to turn around the War in Vietnam as it entered its eleventh year and we all know how that turned out. What was that saying “he who ignores history is doomed to repeat it?” The War in Iraq is still following Bush’s timetable. The Bush tax policies are still in effect. The corrupt crony privatization contracting is still stealing billions. The centerpiece of Obama’s Administration, healthcare reform, has been torpedoed by Republicans and blue dogs. Hapless and going nowhere the marks of a true Centrist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 09/15/2009
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