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Ahmadinejad: Holocaust Denial A Source Of Pride

NASSER KARIMI and LEE KEATH   09/21/09 10:54 PM ET   AP

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TEHRAN, Iran — Iran's president said Monday he is proud to stoke international outrage with his latest remarks denying the Holocaust as he heads for the United Nations this week – showing he is as defiant as ever while his country comes under greater pressure to curtail its nuclear program.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad takes the world stage with a speech Wednesday to the U.N. General Assembly. He appears intent on showing he has not been weakened by three months of turmoil at home, where the pro-reform opposition has staged dramatic protests claiming Ahmadinejad's victory in June presidential elections was fraudulent.

Ahmadinejad has a reason to try to present his government as strong: On Oct. 1, Iran is to enter key negotiations with the United States and other powers seeking concessions on Iran's nuclear program.

The U.S. and its allies suspect Iran is secretly pursuing a nuclear weapon, warning that Tehran already has enough enriched uranium to build a bomb. Iran denies the accusations, saying it only aims to generate electricity.

Heading into the talks, Iran has firmly rejected demands it give up uranium enrichment, a process that can produce either fuel for a nuclear reactor or a warhead. And it doesn't want the talks to focus on the nuclear issue at all. But American and European officials warn that if no progress is made in the meetings, they will push for tougher U.N. sanctions against Iran.

In New York, Ahmadinejad is likely to come under heavy pressure over the nuclear issue. And his every step will be dogged by Iranian exiles, who plan protests over his government's postelection crackdown against the opposition. Already, exiles have been lobbying New York hotels to reject events where the Iranian president is to appear.

Human Rights Watch and the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran on Monday called on the U.N. General Assembly to appoint a special envoy to investigate and document human rights violations committed during the postelection turmoil.

But Ahmadinejad appears to relish the controversy. This will be his fifth appearance at the annual General Assembly since his first election in 2005. In past years, he has used his U.N. visits to bolster his credentials as a figure of resistance to Israel and American domination – an image that he believes plays well among his conservative supporters in Iran.

He stoked the fires ahead of the visit with new comments casting doubt on the Holocaust. Asked about widespread condemnation of such remarks, Ahmadinejad said Monday: "The anger of the world's professional killers is (a source of) pride for us," according to state news agency IRNA.

During a speech Friday, he questioned whether the Holocaust was "a real event" and called it a pretext used by Jews to trick the West into backing the creation of Israel. He said the Jewish state was created out of "a lie and a mythical claim."

The United States branded the speech "hateful." Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said Monday that Ahmadinejad "yet again shames the great tradition of the noble Iranian people" and has chosen "the violent repression of Iranians over a policy of friendship and cooperation that would have promoted their welfare and their honor."

Israel often touts Ahmadinejad's comments on the Holocaust – and his predictions of the Jewish state's demise – as proof of the threat from Iran if it obtains nuclear weapons.

Israeli military chief, Lt. Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi, said Monday that all options remain "on the table" in dealing with Iran's nuclear program, indicating that the country has not abandoned the possibility of a military strike.

Along with his anti-Israel and anti-U.S. rhetoric, Ahmadinejad often portrays himself as the champion of a new world order ending Western domination and providing justice for developing nations.

The president's message during his U.N. visit will be "peace and friendship for all nations, fighting suppression and interaction with all nations in the framework of justice and mutual respect," said a spokesman for Ahmadinejad's office, Mohammad Jafar Mohammadzadeh, according to IRNA.

Ahmadinejad has courted controversy in previous visits. In 2007, during a speech and question-and-answer session at New York's Columbia University, he sat through a scathing criticism by the elite university's president. He was jeered at the same gathering for defending Holocaust revisionists and claiming there are no homosexuals in Iran.

Alireza Nader, an Iran analyst as the Washington-based RAND Corp., said Ahmadinejad is playing to an audience at home, trying to distract from the controversy over his election. "But I think that his credibility and legitimacy have been so damaged that this isn't going to help him in Iran," Nader said.

In fact, courting controversy could hurt him even with fellow conservatives in Iran, some of whom feel the president needlessly turns European countries against Iran, he said.

"It makes engagement with Iran more difficult for Western countries," Nader said. "It calls into question his seriousness in engaging the West."

In the Oct. 1 talks, Iran's nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili is to meet with European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana, as well as U.S. Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs William Burns and representatives from Britain, France, Russia, China and Germany.

Ultimate say on Iran's nuclear program lies with Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who stands at the top of the country's clerical leadership. On Sunday, Khamenei took a tough line, saying accusations Iran was seeking a bomb are "a lie and a trick against the Islamic Republic."

"The American government must change its policy," Khamenei said. "The Iranian people are watchful against this animosity and will stand up against it."

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Lee Keath reported from Cairo.

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03:31 PM on 09/22/2009
The only lies are from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad when he denies the Holocaust. Not only does he embarrass himself, he embarrass' his country IRAN, he embarrass' the Muslim world and most of all he DEFILES the GREAT NAME OF the PROFIT MOHAMMED.
01:02 PM on 09/22/2009
[part 2, http://www.juancole.com/2009/09/ahmadinejad-spews-raving-lunatic-anti.html]

Elsewhere he says, "My dear ones, the pretext used to establish the Zionist regime was a lie and a corrupt act. It was a lie based on a fabricated claim that cannot be proven. The occupation of the Palestinian land had no connection with the issue of holocaust. The claim, the pretext, [and the directors [dastandarkaran] and the patrons [hamiyan]] are all fraudulent and corrupt. They are all historical criminals. They are responsible for plundering and colonizing the world for the past 500 years."

I read the Persian phrase, which the government translators dropped, about dastandarkaran (masters, proprietors) and their protectors and patrons (hamiyan) to be a reference to Zionists and imperialists. He then says "all of them" (hamih-'i ishan) are responsible for colonizing and plundering the world for the past half-millennium. I've gone back and forth on this, since Ahmadinejad's speaking style is syntactically sloppy and his referents are not always clear, but I am leaning to thinking that he sees a Jewish/ imperial partnership as having stretched into the distant past.

In other words, he is saying, all of modern history (possibly from the Portuguese conquest of Goa) and certainly the British conquests during WW I, the Nazi persecution of Jews, and last year's American presidential race, has been the unfolding of a secret Jewish plot, wherein "Zionists" control everything that happens.
01:02 PM on 09/22/2009
Confusion persists over what Ahma, the reactionary holocaust denier, actually said. Juan Cole is /the/ gold standard for these linguistic issues. I wish that Hufpo would use the column as people still deny that Ahma said racist and holocaust denying statements.

http://www.juancole.com/2009/09/ahmadinejad-spews-raving-lunatic-anti.html

Ahmadinejad Spews Raving Lunatic Anti-Semitism on 'Jerusalem Day'

Note: Revised 9/21/09

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad gave a sermon on Friday for "Jerusalem Day" that is full of the most vile crackpot anti-Semitism that can be imagined.

Anti-Semitism as a form of bigotry typically ascribes the most abject motives and character to Jews in general at the same time as they are depicted as secretly controlling the world...

For him to suggest, as he does here, that anti-Semitism was justified by Jewish "indecent behavior," is beyond despicable. He also appears to blame Jews for the Nazi crimes against them, saying that the Zionists spread around anti-Semitic books and films in Europe so as to make Jews hated and so as to cause them to be expelled to Palestine. These allegations go beyond simple anti-Zionism into a weird and creepy world of anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.

[end part 1]
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Ergon
Man From Atlan
11:41 AM on 09/22/2009
On the other hand, http://palsolidarity.org/2009/09/8488
"Spain excludes (Israeli) settlement university from academic competition"
"This move of the government of Spain follows the decision of the UK government not to rent offices from Israeli settlement builder Lev Leviev and the divestment of the Norwegian Pension Fund from Elbit Systems, an Israeli company providing surveillance equipment to the Wall"
This also followed the withdrawal of construction companies of the Jerusalem light rail line.
Funny how we might not like dinner jacket, but we're boycotting the other guy?
09:41 AM on 09/22/2009
We know that the holocaust was real and can therefore ignore Ahmadinejad's idiotic comments. We can't do the same for the comments of "birthers and deathers" here in the USA.
07:05 AM on 09/22/2009
Ahmadinejad is just the front man for the mullahs....who are a very nervous bunch these days.
05:24 AM on 09/22/2009
What happens here is that anyone writes a book or questions the Holocaust is hauled into jail for 20 Years. Iranian president is not the only one who questions the Holocaust but there are Christian priests, Jews and others question too. If there is nothing to hide why do they get upset and the Zionist media go mad, when somebody questions the details? The real culprits of creating Israel are the US, Russia, Britain and the France. So whenever someone questions the Holocaust the leaders of these countries come forward to defend and criticize those who question. What a shameful Democracy. Everything can be questioned but not the Holocaust!!!
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ZenCrusader
trying to be more zen in a zany world.
09:46 AM on 09/22/2009
it is a simple matter of respect and the human spirit - I feel sorry for you as you don't understand something so human and so real. sad for you.
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10:25 AM on 09/22/2009
the thing is, the Holocaust most definitely happened, even if the numbers are exaggerated (i'm not saying they are), it happened, and it was as horrible as described by most accounts, it's shouldn't however be an excuse for Israelis to do whatever the heck they want.
05:23 AM on 09/22/2009
The truth is, the Holocaust is that it is not the Jewish Holocaust, 100 million people died and what he denies here is that the details of the Holocaust not the Holocaust itself but the Zionist media keep repeating things what he did not say. Even if the Holocaust is exactly according to what the Jews (Zionists) claim, why would the Palestinians pay for it? The Germans must give them a part of their land, they gave them money in billions to the victims. Because these Jews are European convert s to Judaism as such their claim of the Jewish home land cannot be justified and they are not the seeds of Abraham and they are European in every way or anything but Middle Eastern. People have the right to believe anything they want but if all the details of the Holocaust are true the people who criticize him for questioning the details must convince him so that the people in the outside world part from the Americans, Russians and the Europeans could believe the stories they have been repeating over and over again. continues
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Ergon
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05:20 AM on 09/22/2009
The translations must have been done by a hundred monkeys.
What did Ahmadinnerjacket really say?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23540.htm
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CigarGod
What is your process?
10:47 AM on 09/22/2009
Yes, but the monkeys are employed by....
03:51 PM on 09/22/2009
Why allow that site to make a simian out of you?
10:52 PM on 09/21/2009
Turn it to a sheet of glass the whole region.
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CigarGod
What is your process?
10:54 AM on 09/22/2009
Got your club in one hand and grog in the other?
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Freenation
09:29 PM on 09/21/2009
one party denies holocaust and other party keeps saying 'all options are on table' i.e. attacking a sovreign country, what I can see is it is classic tale of 2 nut jobs...the only difference is one nut gets more attention than other...
12:22 AM on 09/22/2009
great comparison. if you're a 3rd grader.
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Freenation
06:08 PM on 09/24/2009
or ai.pac hater!
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JudgeMoonbox
09:11 PM on 09/21/2009
"Iran's president said Monday he is proud to stoke international outrage with his latest remarks denying the Holocaust as he heads for the United Nations this week – showing he is as defiant as ever"

What it actually shows is that he's an incompetent clown; which raises the question, "Why wouldn't meddling foreigners prefer him?" The Holocaust has been documented in much greater detail than his "election," and his claims that he defies the Powers that Be are a ruse intended to get the Iranian people to rally round the flag because he has no other claim to legitimacy.
10:27 PM on 09/21/2009
As a Polish-North American I find Iran's president's statement offensive. WE lost Polish Jewiah & Polish Catholic family members in that so called Holocaust. When you visit the graves you must believe. Many had no graves, they were just among the many mass graves. It is sad that madmen still rule many parts of this planet.
07:34 PM on 09/21/2009
If you think public healthcare for all Americans is expensive, you'll love getting the bill for another useless war for Israel on Iran.

So because of the Holocaust we pay $8billion to Israelis in US taxpayer dollars so they can have free health care and subsidized homes. I think America has done more than it's fair share, often bending over backwards and compromising it's own security for the foreign nation of Israel.

Don't forget 70 million people died in WWII, suffering isn't exclusive to one group nor does it give the victim the right to behave in the same criminal ways as the nazis.
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CJWebber
I think we all love teachers.
02:38 PM on 09/22/2009
Exactly.
07:22 PM on 09/21/2009
I'm seeing twoo Mahmoud stories with the same picture beside one another
06:24 PM on 09/21/2009
You have to admit- he gets attention when he makes that statement. He knows that holoccaust is real but he assumes that if he does not lie, some of his terrorist friends may not like him anymore.
It's amazing to see and hear the distance that politicians go to stay in power. Fraud has no borders.

He does not care about anyone or anything. He wants to be in power and he will do and say anything that he thinks he needs to. What he does not realize is that people are fed up with lies, fraud and corruption.