Obama: Israel, Palestinians Must Do More For Mideast Peace

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JENNIFER LOVEN | 09/22/09 09:24 PM | AP

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NEW YORK — Bristling with impatience, President Barack Obama sternly prodded Israeli and Palestinian leaders to relaunch Mideast peace negotiations Tuesday, grasping a newly personal role in their historic standoff. He won an awkward, stone-faced handshake but no other apparent progress beyond a promise to talk about more talks.

There had been hopes for weeks that there might be more to show from the first meeting of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas since Netanyahu took office in March – perhaps even a dramatic announcement by Obama of the resumption of the Mideast peace negotiations that broke off over a year ago.

That wasn't to be. Despite months of effort, the sides remain far apart on a staunch Palestinian precondition for talks: that Israel halt all construction of Jewish settlements in Palestinian territory. Obama has publicly echoed that demand to Israeli leaders – though the Palestinians noted with displeasure that he used the word "restrain" on Tuesday rather than "halt" or "freeze."

The president hosted the two foes at his New York hotel during a marathon day of diplomacy on the sidelines of this week's United Nations General Assembly gathering. It was a high-stakes gambit that could prove to be a timely personal intervention into a decades-old dispute that Obama has made a presidential priority or a flop that damages Obama's global credibility on a broader scale.

Obama's Mideast envoy, George Mitchell, said the president took the risk because he believes the moment is uniquely ripe for progress – and because he felt an in-person display of his rising impatience could help.

So, instead of announcing a new round of peace talks, Obama announced a newly intensified effort to bring them about.

He tasked Mitchell with continuing to meet with Israeli and Palestinian officials while in New York this week, invited negotiators from both sides to come to Washington next week and asked Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to report to him in mid-October on the status. This tightly compressed time frame, even if not a real deadline, was designed to inject urgency into the process and "concentrate the mind," said a senior administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to more freely describe the private meetings.

"Simply put, it is past time to talk about starting negotiations – it is time to move forward," Obama declared, displaying an unusual level of public frustration as he prepared to sit down with Netanyahu and Abbas for joint talks after meeting with each separately. "We cannot continue the same pattern of taking tentative steps forward and then stepping back."

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Spanning over two hours all together, the talks found all leaders promising to work to resume peace negotiations but also often using language described as "blunt" and "direct." Both leaders kept stressing with Obama their own priorities and fears. Obama in return emphasized a need to take risks and give up some things for a bigger goal, said a senior administration official.

According to Mitchell, Obama told the leaders at one point: "The only reason to hold public office is to get things done."

Neither Netanyahu nor Abbas spoke publicly at the meeting site. In a moment deep in symbolism, however, they engaged in an unsmiling and seemingly reluctant handshake at the start of the sitdown, with dozens of cameras clicking to record the moment.

"We can do a lot more if we talk to each other," Netanyahu said later on CNN. "The possibilities are there. Let's get on with it."

Obama praised both Israelis and Palestinians for positive steps. But he made clear they haven't done nearly enough.

Palestinians, Obama said, must build on recent security improvements and "do more to stop incitement" – meaning that they must stop those who encourage or carry out attacks on Israel. But Abbas' Fatah government is severely hampered in doing so, as Palestinians in the Gaza Strip are led by the government's Islamic militant Hamas rivals.

As for the Israelis, Obama praised their moves to increase Palestinians' freedom of movement and to discuss "important steps to restrain settlement activity." But Israeli officials "need to translate these discussions into real action on this and other issues," he said sharply. In the private talks, he also chided the Israelis for suggesting that new peace talks would not resume on the same terms as last year's round, in which the fate of Jerusalem was expected to be on the table. Netanyahu now says Jerusalem if off limits for discussion.

Israeli's intense concern about Iran's suspected nuclear weapons program came up briefly, but was not a focus, the official said.

An Abbas aide, Yasser Abed Raddo, said that in the trilateral meeting Abbas restated his demand for a complete Israeli settlement freeze. Netanyahu, in turn, demanded that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state. The Palestinians argue that under previous understandings they are not required to do that. Netanyahu also told ABC News that he would not accept the settlement issue as a precondition to talks.

Mitchell seemed to give the Israeli side a bit of boost by saying that despite the recent months' focus on the settlement showdown, the Obama administration does not see resolving it as necessary to move to "final status" negotiations. "We do not believe in preconditions, we do not impose them and we urge others not to impose them," he said.

That message was delivered more directly in private, the official said, with Obama warning Palestinians against making "the perfect the enemy of the good" on settlements.

But even the fact that Obama's "restrain" word choice rankled Palestinians showed just how difficult the terrain is for Mideast peace.

"I think it will be a problem, not only from the point of view of the Palestinians, but I believe it should be from the international community" because it deviates from previous frameworks, "including the need for settlement activity to stop, and stop completely," said Abbas' prime minister, Salaam Fayyad.

Still, Obama said: "Despite all the obstacles, despite all the history, despite all the mistrust, we have to find a way forward. ... It is absolutely critical that we get this issue resolved."

Obama's 12-hour day of international intervention began with an address to a climate change summit, convened by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to create momentum for crucial international climate talks in Copenhagen in December.

With over 100 world leaders in attendance, Obama urged all to step up their efforts to combat global warming by curbing heat-trapping emissions. He held out the United States as a serious partner, even though he has made little progress in getting a bill through Congress to set mandatory limits on greenhouse gases.

"The journey is hard. And we don't have much time left to make it," the president said.

Obama also met with Chinese President Hu Jintao at a fraught time in the Washington-Beijing relationship, saying he wants more cooperative ties with the Asian economic and political powerhouse. Despite a dispute over new tariffs Obama has imposed on Chinese tire imports, Hu agreed that the relationship must stay on "the right course."

Over lunch, America's first black president hosted two dozen sub-Saharan African leaders for discussions about boosting opportunities for young people in their poverty-stricken nations. In the evening, he delivered a keynote speech to former President Bill Clinton's Global Initiative and was attending U.N. leaders dinner.

Obama's New York meetings were a precursor to another turn on center stage later this week, when he hosts the G-20 summit of leading industrial and developing nations in Pittsburgh.

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Associated Press writers Karin Laub and Amy Teibel contributed to this report.

NEW YORK — Bristling with impatience, President Barack Obama sternly prodded Israeli and Palestinian leaders to relaunch Mideast peace negotiations Tuesday, grasping a newly personal role in the...
NEW YORK — Bristling with impatience, President Barack Obama sternly prodded Israeli and Palestinian leaders to relaunch Mideast peace negotiations Tuesday, grasping a newly personal role in the...
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- Ergon I'm a Fan of Ergon 101 fans permalink
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It actually took a REPUBLICAN president, George Bush Sr., to withhold $10 billion in loan guarantees to Israel to get Israeli action: their satraps voted for Bill Clinton in 1992.
Btw, anyone notice how a lot of the birther movement seems to have its impetus from Israeli interests?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 09/24/2009
- kat1944 I'm a Fan of kat1944 14 fans permalink

I found the entire speech to be just another tired campaign diatribe.
Obama is President, he can stop running. No one will make him king of the world.
He needs to start acting Presidential and not like the new KID on the block griping about his family and the lousy neighborhood he just moved into.
If he doesn't stop knocking this country, to anyone who will listen, he will be a one term President.
Carter found out the hard way, Americans don't want a groveling president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 09/23/2009
- CigarGod I'm a Fan of CigarGod 134 fans permalink
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Does "bristling with impatience" advance the ball?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 09/23/2009

Well, when the US refuses to use its two big sticks with Israel, namely halting aid to their country and no longer using our vote on the UN security council to protect them, then why should they think our President is serious about any of this? It all looks like kabuki theater to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 09/23/2009

It's just amazing how short-sighted the Israelis are. Do they really believe there will even be an Israel, say 75 years from now, if they don't manage to achieve lasting peace with their Arab neighbors? And do they think they can take all of Palestine and still have peace after that? Or do they simply not think about the long-term issues and prefer to focus on short-term gains? Do they think the US will want to protect them forever, or even have the power to do so if it wanted to, several decades from now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 09/23/2009
- Goefel I'm a Fan of Goefel 10 fans permalink
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It's become a way of life for Israel to oppress the Palestinians because of their desired self-interests. David has become the Goliath.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 09/23/2009
- jwcmass I'm a Fan of jwcmass 60 fans permalink

But psychologically, many Israelis still see themselves as David-- the more vulnerable of the two. And react accordingly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 09/23/2009
- Blaster I'm a Fan of Blaster 4 fans permalink

I don't think there will be a United States in 75 years besides will all be dead.???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 09/25/2009

typical caving in of our politicians to israels needs. its horrifying to know just how insidious and entrenched aipac and their zionist brethren have a hold on our country. maybe if americans were more educated and well read we know the cancer on our diminishing empire. how about a nationwide vote on giving israel aid. i doubt they would get our unappreciated support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 09/23/2009
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 64 fans permalink

Obama will have to pull the plug on israel . . . israel is howling about the Goldstone Report on Operation Cast Lead, continuing to build illegal settlements . .what are the Palestinians supposed to do . . how does one talk with someone who is continuing to move the goal posts to secure more land continuing to break international law . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 AM on 09/23/2009
- Goefel I'm a Fan of Goefel 10 fans permalink
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Not without dividing his entire party. That is what is at stake for him.
The Zionist Democrats will go into crazy gear and Obama will be in trouble.
The wheel is turning slowly, hopefully compromises can be met.
Goldstone is a leftist Zionist and he wants what best for Israel.
Why doesn't
Netanyahu gov't see this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 09/23/2009
- nkhogan I'm a Fan of nkhogan 83 fans permalink

Excellent post. I think the reason Netanyahu doesn't see this is that he has his own political right wing that he has to appease. But he certainly doesn't seem to have a fine-tuned ear to the nuances of Obama's political realities either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 09/23/2009
- blico I'm a Fan of blico 49 fans permalink
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It is widely accepted that the father of the Israelis and the Arabs was Abraham. His son Isaac was the father of the tribes of the Hebrews and his son Ishmael was the father of the Arabs. Even though they all desended from Abraham they have h8td each other for thousands of years. This h8trd is not likely to change anytime soon. There maybe more treaties and agreements that pretend to unite them in a common cause but it will not!
No! I'm not a bible thumper, nor am I a Bible scholar - this is the accepted lineage that Christians, Jews and Arabs (as far as I know) accept!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 AM on 09/23/2009
- nkhogan I'm a Fan of nkhogan 83 fans permalink

The current conflict really dates from the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the British Mandate, Balfour, Zionism, the formation of the nation state of Israel.

Under the Ottoman Empire, Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in the area that is considered Israel and the Palestinian territories, side by side and in peace.

What stirred things up was colonialism, nationalism, and zionism. I personally blame Balfour and the Balfour Declaration for beginning the current conflict.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 09/23/2009

the indegenous people who lived here, jews christians and muslims , could because they were indegenous people, the problem was caused when jews from europe decided to migrate to this area en mass in what is called zionism, their plan was to uproot the locals, buy up as much land as possible and create a jewish state. the locals, all religions could live together because there was no jewish state being run by white europeans and americans. that is why this is colonialisation. because the white migrant jews do not want to cede power in a democracy of the whole region, since the local population would win by numbers ijn a democracy. so people stop the crap that these people are both sons of Abraham. we are all Gods children but that does not give me a right to claim land in the vatican because am catholic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 09/23/2009
- Goefel I'm a Fan of Goefel 10 fans permalink
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I wouldn't blame the Balfour declaration, that was Rothschild's wish, but the idea of returning to a Jewish homeland is an idea that's been around for thousands of years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 09/23/2009
- ZenJu I'm a Fan of ZenJu 50 fans permalink

It will take a shift in cultural attitudes on both sides. Israel must return to the vision of Ben-Gurion: Keep the Jewish part of Old Jerusalem, but pull out of the West Bank (as they did Gaza) with a peace treaty and demilitarisation. The settlers, who never should have built in the West Bank, must either come home or accept Palestinian nationality. The Palestinians must reject the way of jihad and hatred and accept that a state in the West Bank and Gaza, with the Arab part of East Jerusalem as their capital. Jews who accept Palestinian nationality must be allowed to remain, just as there are so many Israeli Arabs. Adequate time must pass for both sides to get past history. The international community would gladly help Palestine develop an infrastructure and sound democratic foundations, both desperately needed if there is to be peace and prosperity. Is this what both sides want? Maybe not...but it's rational and it is workable, if the will to compromise in good faith is present. That's reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 AM on 09/23/2009
- jwcmass I'm a Fan of jwcmass 60 fans permalink

Well, if the settlers are allowed to stay in Palestine (i can see this going over big with the Gush Emunim), how about the refugees of 1948 beig given the option of resettling in either Israel or Palestine. most of them, after all , were driven out of what is now Israel proper back in 1948, in order to create an Israeli state that would have an ethnic Jewish majority.

Would you accept that as fair? After all, these refugees have been living in refugee camps since 1948.

If the settlers can stay in Palestine, then turnabout is fair play-- the refugees ought to be able to settle in Haifa, Jaffa, Acre, Ramle, Lod and all the other places they were driven from or fled due to the fighting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 09/23/2009
- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 105 fans permalink
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Israel's too comfortable with thestatus quo; they're not interested in negotiating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 AM on 09/23/2009
- helen I'm a Fan of helen 41 fans permalink
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Look, Israel does not want peace. The Palestinians do not want peace.

Why are we trying to make them make peace?

They hate each other.

The best we can do is not provide any foreign aid to either of these dysfunctional groups.

They deserve each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 09/23/2009
- marco01 I'm a Fan of marco01 232 fans permalink
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This may be the most truthful comment here.

If they can't get their act together soon, we should do exactly as you say. Too long has Israel been an drag on our efforts in the ME.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 AM on 09/23/2009
- KIVPossum I'm a Fan of KIVPossum 74 fans permalink
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Well, there's always the possibility that every few years they will sit down for a cup of tea, someone will get the Peace Prize, then they'll go back to business as usual.

The U.S. must cut out financial and political support for Israel. As long as they have us in their pocket they will not change and there will be no peace until Israel changes drastically.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 AM on 09/23/2009
- iplaw I'm a Fan of iplaw 29 fans permalink

Obama thinking he can solve a war that has been going on for over a thousand years is really arrogant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 AM on 09/23/2009
- nkhogan I'm a Fan of nkhogan 83 fans permalink

Every single president since Nixon has tried to resolve the conflict. The conflict has not lasted for over a thousand years. The current problems stem from the later 1800's and following.


I guess you must think Nixon, Carter, Ford, Clinton, George Senior and George Jr. are all arrogant too then. lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 09/23/2009
- nkhogan I'm a Fan of nkhogan 83 fans permalink

You must think Nixon, Carter, Ford, Clinton, Bush Sr., Bush Jr are arrogant as well.

And fyi the conflict is not over 1000 years old. The roots of the current conflict can be found in the late 1800's with the nationalist movements, the Zionist movement, colonialism and the Balfour Declaration. These predate 1948 and the formation of a modern nation state of Israel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 09/23/2009
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 64 fans permalink

it has been going on since 1948 . . . . since the establishment of israel by the UN . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 09/23/2009
- Drumbeato I'm a Fan of Drumbeato 15 fans permalink
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A one state solution? Not gonna happen...EVER. Israel is a Theocracy, a country run by and for the Jewish people. If you live in Israel and are not Jewish, you are a second class citizen with little say.

We live today with the result of Britain & the U.S. meddling where they had no right to, in the creation of a Jewish state after WW2. (Sound familiar? every time we meddle in another countries affairs we end up with a mess that goes on for decades. The world is littered with our messes. See Iraq for a recent one).

There is no solution to this conflict. The best we can hope for is a truce where both parties agree to coexist in peace. Israel must stop building settlements on land they "won" during the 1967 war. They must pull back to the pre '67 borders. Doing this would be a good faith gesture that would be welcomed by the world and show Israel is serious about peace with the Palestinians. This would put pressure on the Palestinians to also get serious about peace.

A key ingredient here is the U.S. funding of Israel. We should threaten to pull the funding if Israel doesn't give up the settlements. Unfortunately, this is a sticky situation as the funds are tied up with money we give to Egypt so they keep the peace with Israel. Jerusalem is a subject all it's own. Everyone lays claim and no one wants to share.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 09/23/2009
- DC I'm a Fan of DC 23 fans permalink

That sort of sums it up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 09/23/2009
- Goefel I'm a Fan of Goefel 10 fans permalink
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Israel was formed well before WWII. See the Balfour Declaration. c1917. The discussions led by Theodore Hertzl amongst the diaspora, discussed the formation off a Jewish state in the 1890's, choosing Palestine as the place of reunification.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 09/23/2009
- Drumbeato I'm a Fan of Drumbeato 15 fans permalink
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Goefel- All true. The pre history of modern Israel went back some 50 years prior to 1948, but it was the actions of Britain, the U.S. & the U.N. that made 1948 possible. Just because Hertzl talked about it years before doesn't mean it was gonna happen. He laid the groundwork, and what followed in the years leading up to '48, (The Holocaust, Zionist freedom fighters, etc), all contributed. If Hitler hadn't killed the Jews & destroyed half of Europe, would Israel as we know it today exist at all? The Holocaust provided the Zionist movement the sympathy of the world, and propelled Israel into existence. Had it never happened I wonder if we would have an Israel today, or would the Zionist freedom fighters still be fighting to fulfill their dream of a Jewish state?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 09/24/2009

Look, the source of instability in the Middle East has nothing to do with Israel. Its a convenient scapegoat. The source of instability in the Middle East are the Arabs:

Iran - Iraq war: 1 million dead
Syria vs the village of Hama: 20,000 dead in one week
Jordan vs PLO: 10,000 dead in one month

None of the Israeli-Arab wars have come close to that kind of destruction. And, if Gaza was an uprising within any Arab country, there wouldn't be anything left at all. It would be leveled.

By the way, all of the Arab countries have ethnically cleansed the Jews from them -- there used to be over a million Jews in Arab countries -- all but a few thousand are gone. At least Israel lets Arabs live there -- they can vote, have their own media and are free to worship their religion, which is not the case in most, if not all, Arab countries. List the Arab countries that permit freedom of reglion, media and the right to vote for non-Arab, non-Muslims?

Perhaps if the Arabs surrounding Israel would stop starting wars (and losing them), there may be some chance of peace, but I can't imagine the US being "restrained" if Mexico or Canada was launching rockets into San Antonio or Burlington, VT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 09/23/2009

I do not think that two state solution is ideal. Because the border incursions can not be ruled out even with such formulation. Besides withdrawl of West Bank settlements will cause immense displeasure that would linger quite sometime. Jerusalem will be a sticky issue. How about a one state solution combining Israel and Palestine into one country to be named as 'PalIsrael'. That should enable Palestanians to have Political clout based on mutually agreeable constitutional requirements. Also, the tourism to that part of the world will increase manifold under new security conditions and the income generated thereby can be shared towards faster economic development of palestime which would augur better coherence betwenn the two parts of Palisrael.. More importantly there will be assured peace between the peoples of that region.. This should also ensure non intervention of Iran and Seria in that part of the world with automatic resolution of Golan heights problem with Seria. This will be an affective solution whereby we bring people together rather than seperating them involving consequential border disputes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 09/23/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 78 fans permalink
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Israel lives in terror of this obvious solution. One man, one vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 09/23/2009
- ZenJu I'm a Fan of ZenJu 50 fans permalink

No, it's much simpler. Remember the Lebanese Civil War? Remember the former Yugoslavia's meltdown? One-state "solutions" solve nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 09/23/2009
- zlib I'm a Fan of zlib permalink

Do you actually believe in this? they love each other so much that this will hold for how much time and how much blood will be spilled?
They should be separated, and then, 50 years later, maybe they could actually make "real" peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 AM on 09/23/2009
- jwcmass I'm a Fan of jwcmass 60 fans permalink

While I agree that a 2 state solution (with Palestine essentially being the West Bank, Gaza, Arab East Jeruslem-- Old City -- jointly governed) is necessary for Palestinians to guarantee their rights and freedom (that is the Zionist justification for Israel, after all), I believe that if we ever achieve a settlement, there need not be a complete separation of the two peoples.

When I was in Israel (about 20 years ago, once just before the first intifada, and again at the height of that intifada) I often saw Israelis and Palestinians living side by side in relative peace as good neighbors. (The problem was-- and is that Palestinians do not have freedom and equality. In Jerusalem, for example, the Palestinians were not allowed out after dark.)

There are many examples NOW of Palestinians and Israelis working together for peace and justice for the Palestinians.

Remember, it is a small minority on both sides who really hate each other. Given a just peace agreement, I see no reason that most will not have a problem interacting with each other.

Look at Europe. for centuries there were wars between and among the nations there. Yet now former enemies are part of a European union, with no passport needed for citizens of these nations to pass from one country to the other.

There is no intrinsic reason for Israelis and Palestinians to hate each other-- the problem for BOTH is the Occupation (both military AND settler).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 AM on 09/23/2009
- ZenJu I'm a Fan of ZenJu 50 fans permalink

Exactly. Look at what became of Lebanon in its civil war between Sunnis, Shiites, Maronite Christians and Druze. Look at what became of the former Yugoslavia when its various ethnic and religious groups fell to fighting one another. The "one state solution" is a no-go. Time and faith, guided by reason, are the key to resolving our impass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 AM on 09/23/2009
- Grazziella I'm a Fan of Grazziella 25 fans permalink
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Pardon me for the pessimism, but these are two brothers that will never get along.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 09/23/2009
- Taxi I'm a Fan of Taxi 34 fans permalink

Nothing in common between mid-easterners and european converts to j.udaism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 09/23/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 78 fans permalink
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"We cannot continue the same pattern of taking tentative steps forward and then stepping back."

Where's this guy been?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 09/23/2009
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