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Dems Ramp Up Push For Colleagues To Block Filibuster On Health Care

First Posted: 11/23/09 05:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:10 PM ET

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Buoyed by news of a temporary replacement for the late Senator Ted Kennedy, Senate Democratic leaders are launching a renewed effort to get all 60 members of their caucus -- even those who might eventually vote against health care legislation -- to at least commit to blocking a Republican filibuster.

After that, the bill itself could win passage with only a simple majority.

Proponents of the strategy say it is being actively discussed both on Capitol Hill and within the White House -- "every day," said one Democrat who is actively involved with both branches when it comes to passing health care legislation. "That's the whole conversation. At the end of the day we don't need them to vote for the bill. We need to get them to get to cloture to end the debate."

As former DNC Chair Howard Dean summarized: "If you are a member of the Democratic Party you have an obligation... to vote with the party on procedural issue. I would expect that regardless of what Senators think they about the public option, they should be there for cloture."

On the Hill, Sen. Bernie Sanders, (I-VT) has been one of the chief proponents of the commit-to-cloture strategy. And increasingly, senior aides say, he is getting the backing of the party's leadership.

"I think there is growing support for the understanding that if, for whatever reason, some of the conservative members of the caucus choose not to support a public option or vote for final passage that is fine," said Sanders. "We can live with that. What we do need is a united caucus to say to the republicans and say, 'sorry you are not going to sidetrack health care reform and we are going to go forward.'"

"You will have 50 votes for a strong public option" if we get there, Sanders added. "I do believe that."

Meanwhile, there are new moves to get potential fence-straddlers on the public record about cloture. One major union is pushing the idea to reporters. Democracy for America, meanwhile, has launched an "America Can't Wait" campaign with similar objectives. "It is based on the concept that it is possible right now to pass a bill through both houses of Congress with majority vote," said Charles Chamberlain, political director for the group that was launched by former DNC Chairman Howard Dean. "Public comments from a lot of different senators indicate that the votes are there on cloture."

Right now, there is no exact count as to how many of the senators in the Democratic caucus who would oppose health care reform -- if, say, it included a public option for insurance coverage - would nevertheless be willing to allow it to come to an up-or-down vote. Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), one of the most vocal skeptics of his party's health care legislation, has nevertheless indicated that he would support cloture even if he ultimately votes against the bill.

And Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Penn) told a crowd of progressives in mid-August that he thought there were enough votes to stave off a filibuster. "We can get cloture on health care," the Republican-turned-Democrat said. "There will be, I predict, and I predict confidently, which I don't ordinarily do, that there are 60 votes for cloture. I think there are 61. I put [Maine Republican Sen. Olympia] Snowe in there."

Several weeks after Specter's remarks, Sen. Kennedy succumbed to a yearlong struggle with brain cancer -- in the process decreasing the number of caucusing Democrats to 59. But a vote by the Massachusetts Senate on Tuesday to allow the state's governor to temporarily fill that seat should push that number back to the critical 60.

And yet, questions remain. For starters, where do other senators such as Mary Landrieu, (D-LA) and Joseph Lieberman, (I-Conn.) -- come down on cloture? Equally important is the health of the Senate's longest-serving member, Robert Byrd (D-WV), who was rushed to the hospital earlier in the week after a fall.

Still, strategist within the party say the push for getting all caucusing members to back cloture may be the most promising legislative path forward. For starters, it would allow Democrats to pass a more robust reform package than they could likely get through reconciliation -- the parliamentary procedure that also allows for an up-or-down vote but restricts the language of the bill to a five-year budget window.

The commit-to-cloture path also immunizes party members from being tagged with trying to ram a nearly $1 billion piece of legislation through Congress through non-traditional procedural means. And while some conservative Democrats could be criticized for casting votes in favor of considering health care reform, they could temper the hit by ultimately voting against the bill's passage.

"People have lost seats on procedural votes," said Tad Devine, a long-time Democratic strategist. "That is what happened in the 1994 election, when President Clinton's economic package went into law and a number of Democrats in the House lost their seats... But if you are talking about one or two people who are well established, they can oppose legislation on the merits but allow it to come to a vote and I don't think that's enough to cost them a seat."


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Buoyed by news of a temporary replacement for the late Senator Ted Kennedy, Senate Democratic leaders are launching a renewed effort to get all 60 members of their caucus -- even those who might even...
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JohnHKennedy
05:15 PM on 09/24/2009
Voters worked for years to have a large Democratic Majority In Both Houses & A Democratic President. Now They Owe Us. #torture #p2 #fb

The least our Congressional Democrats Owe We Voters is to "at least commit to blocking a Republican filibuster." What they should do is do away with the un-Democratic Filibuster.

Failure to stop the filibuster and failure to pass a HealthCare Bill with a Very Strong Public Option will cost Democrats heavily in the 2010 election. But hey we voters did our job, we got the ungrateful jerks elected. Now They Owe Us.

Pass the Bill with a very strong Public Option or Single Payer
AND start a Commission of Inquiry to investigate All The Bush-Cheney Crimes starting with the obvious and admitted, TORTURE, and then proceed to the other crimes.
03:07 PM on 09/24/2009
So what took these dolts (besides Sen. Sanders) so long to think of this? Here they are talking about reconciliation and what not and all they have to do is to not allow a filibuster and just put the whole thing up for an up or down vote. If this was the Repugs, they would have long ago shoved this down the Dems throats. The whole purpose of reconcilation is moot now. These guys have a 60 vote hammer and it's time they used it.
09:35 AM on 09/24/2009
Here's a must read from Alternet. if you like Lewis Lapham, you'll love this:

http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/142833/we_expect_immortality_from_medicine_--_and_it%27s_destroying_our_health
09:00 AM on 09/24/2009
Single Payer is the only way our country can recover fiscally and physically. On the other hand for $5,000,000.00 I will throw america under the bus for america like a good repug. For tens of millions more I will spew hateful garbage just as well as Coulter, Beck, Limbag, Palin or Bachmann for book deals and a faux tv show in a pear tree. It's the merican way right?
07:40 AM on 09/24/2009
Repeal Taft-Hartley.
07:15 AM on 09/24/2009
Sorry folks, my bad.
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Tunghoy
My other car is a TARDIS
07:06 AM on 09/24/2009
In 1994, nobody lost a seat because they voted for cloture on Clinton's budget. In fact, there was no filibuster; Senate rules prohibit filibustering a budget. Those who lost seats did so in part because they voted for the budget, itself. These House members came from predominantly red districts and would have had a hard time retaining them in a mid-term election, anyway.
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
07:05 AM on 09/24/2009
Speaking of 60!

Did you know there are 59 Senators over 60 Years OLD!

Time for a MASSIVE RETIREMENT PARTY!
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
07:07 AM on 09/24/2009
Time for some NEW BL00D and IDEAS!
06:26 AM on 09/24/2009
That revolving door must run on jet fuel.
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
04:01 AM on 09/24/2009
We need affordable quality medical care, and we have the equivalent of the m0b/Black Hand/M@fI@ (Big Insurance) standing between us and healthcare providers. Private insurance adds nothing to the healthcare delivery system; it just takes a cut. Up to 33%.

When government does the job of administration, it does it for 3%.

In the USA of just a couple of decades ago, the DoJ would be prosecuting the private insurance industry and dismantling them. Instead, we now have Republicans, a DLC-controlled Democratic Party and the president all protecting the private insurance industry, while Americans are in crisis, going bankrupt and dying.

We know how to solve this problem, and it doesn't take years, and it doesn't take "innovation" -- It takes lowering the age for Medicare. Even then it wouldn't put the private insurance industry out of business. There would still be private insurance, for things like private hospital rooms and cosmetic surgery. But there would be medical care for everyone, across the entire country.
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mtracy9
03:57 AM on 09/24/2009
I just signed a petition demanding that the U.S. Congress allow a public option.

Click here to sign: http://bit.ly/1MOpFS
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03:44 AM on 09/24/2009
Still, true reform must pass of the Democratic Party will regret it.
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ilse
04:01 AM on 09/24/2009
No, don't blame the entire democratic party. Put the blame where it belongs and that's the blue dog democrats. Any blue dog democrat that opposes public healthcare reform should be willing to lose their chance of reelection next time around. Keep a list of blue dogs that oppose and make sure they pay the price by not voting for them next election. Some blue dogs are bought and paid for by the insurance companies and they are the ones that will oppose a public healthcare plan. We voted for president Obama and democrats because we wanted a public healthcare plan and anyone who stands in the way should have to pay the price.
04:07 AM on 09/24/2009
Or the converse may happen, where liberal Democrats may lose reelection next time around for the travesty and diluted final bill that may be passed.
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rain33
be bold & strong as a independent person
06:53 AM on 09/24/2009
yeah yup blame blue dogs who took more donations from unions and trying to screw us in the back.it's time to expose lincoln, pryor, nelson etc who took alot of money from insurance companies! it's time to expose them now! how do they sleep at night yet they are supposed to represent constituents not insurance giants!
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03:43 AM on 09/24/2009
This is a brilliant strategy. I feel stupid for not thinking about this. Voting for cloture and against the bill allows for the perfect political cover for 10 Democratic senators, if this is a party line vote.
03:19 AM on 09/24/2009
The issue of health care reform says all that one needs to know about who we are as Americans.
We say we are the greatest nation on earth .
While other developed countries have decided that the life of every of their citizen is priceless by providing access to health care to all of their ctizens the life of every American has a price.
If you are rich and have a health crisis then you live
If you are poor and have a health crisis then you die.
I am ashamed to be an American.
I am ashamed of a people who value dollars more than the life of their fellow citizens.
The Republicans monetize everything even life and Democrats have no balls so they can not stand up to them and the uninformed noise makers at the town halls..
Watch the attached youtube clip........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfVAJ3Wh67U
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02:49 AM on 09/24/2009
We'll give you one more next year - Burr is toast
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03:25 AM on 09/24/2009
Oh yes, the guy who blocked Tammy Duckworth.