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First Posted: 09-25-09 11:50 AM   |   Updated: 09-25-09 01:04 PM

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Linda Amick worked for a big telecom firm for 24 years, climbing the ranks from lowly systems analyst making $14,000 a year to senior management.

"It was really a great place to work," Amick told the Huffington Post. She looked forward to a comfortable retirement on a few acres in a small town 50 miles from Atlanta, Georgia.

So much for that: Nortel Networks filed for bankruptcy protection in the U.S. and Canada in January, eliminating Amick's job.

Now, stuck in a home she bought on that small acreage in Maysville (pop. 1,247) just one week before the bankruptcy filing, Amick is pondering revenge.

"If I don't get rid of [this house], I don't want to stay here anyway, so they're going to ruin my credit," she said. "So what? I'll never be able to own a home again anyway. Honestly, I'm so angry, if I don't sell this house -- and let me tell you, it's been on the market six months for far less than I paid for it and not one person has looked at it -- I'm very much contemplating [defaulting on the mortgage], hopefully contributing to the demise of Wells Fargo."

Nortel's bankruptcy reminded Amick of last fall's wildly unpopular Wall Street bailout.

"Lemme tell you how big of a ripoff it was," said Amick, a 58-year-old divorced mother of two. "They went into bankruptcy in January and they have been paying quarterly bonuses to the executives."

In March, bankruptcy judges in the U.S. and Canada approved Nortel's plan to pay as much as $7.3 million to eight executives while the firm is in bankruptcy. Company attorney James Bromley told Bloomberg News that management needs that kind of compensation "because of the high level of expertise for these individuals."

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"Give me a break," said Amick. "How do you get a bonus for taking a company into bankruptcy? It's dumbfounding."

Doug Bernstein, head of Plunkett Cooney's Banking, Bankruptcy and Creditors' Rights practice called it a typical situation for a major bankruptcy. "It's allowed under the bankruptcy code. Is it fair? No."

(Bernstein noted that he, too, had a disappointing experience with Nortel. "Years ago I had the foresight to invest in Nortel stock," he said. "I got 12 shares left at 66 cents a share. I lost 99.9 percent of my investment." He doesn't expect to see a penny.)

The federal Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation took over Nortel's underfunded pension plan in July and became its trustee on Sept. 8. Amick will probably be able to draw the full value of her pension, but she won't be able to pull the $260,000 lump sum for which she said she'd been eligible before the bankruptcy.

Not that she's ready for retirement. Amick said she's looking for a job and not finding anything. She said she's certain she'll have to leave Maysville to find work, and that she may take the opportunity to gouge Wells Fargo for the $185,000 she owes on her mortgage.

"I don't know if most Americans feel this way. My sense of fairness has been just violated with the Federal Reserve bailing out these big banks, and every day I read about these big banks and Goldman Sachs is getting these $16 billion bonuses," she said. "I wish rich people every happiness in the world. It's not like I have rich people envy, but it's like they sucked all the money from us. They've been bailed out by us. You just wonder how much outrage the American citizens can tolerate before there starts to be revolt."


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Linda Amick worked for a big telecom firm for 24 years, climbing the ranks from lowly systems analyst making $14,000 a year to senior management. "It was really a great place to work," Amick told the...
Linda Amick worked for a big telecom firm for 24 years, climbing the ranks from lowly systems analyst making $14,000 a year to senior management. "It was really a great place to work," Amick told the...
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- JPE33180 I'm a Fan of JPE33180 9 fans permalink

Yesterday I posted a bit of a rant on this topic but somehow it never appeared. I did not incite violence or attack any individual, but some one ( the HuffPost censor I think) decided to keep it from appearing. I don't know what the motivation was to make that post disappear since no one ever contacts you to explain - they have my contact information - so I'll try this route - a little sunshine for Huff.

My original post spoke of why things will never change - because the rich and the corporate like the status quo. The rich and the corporate think things are going well (for them) so anyone of a different opinion due to their circumstances must be a failure. The politicians like the money that the rich and corporate can/will give them so no substantial regulation will ever come from them. Watch the games continue as Wall Street and the bank go back to business as usual. Watch healthcare reform go no where and the non-wealthy and non-corporate people suffer more. Watch jobs that made this country great go away since we will not meaningfully invest in new technologies and the manufacturing jobs left here slowly make their way off-shore so the wealthy and corporate can benefit.

So HuffPost censor - do you want to flush this comment again? Perhaps there ought to be a place within your website that can be dedicated to educating me and others as to what is an acceptable

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 09/29/2009
- JBS I'm a Fan of JBS 19 fans permalink
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Nortel's been in financial trouble, closing plants & laying off workers since 2000 ... for 19 of the 24 years she worked there.

2002: Lays off 55,000 employees.

2003: Acknowledges past accounting errors and says it will restate results back to 2000.

2004: Delays audited financials for 2003, discloses it may further restate prior results. The audited results won't be released until 2005.

RCMP announce criminal probe into Nortel's accounting. Charges come in 2008.

2005: Audited results for 2003 released.

2006: Nortel agrees to pay $2.5 billion US in cash and stock to settle shareholders' class action lawsuit over accounting scandal.

Restructuring announced. Nortel lays off 1,900.

2007: Another restructuring announced. Another 2,900 layoffs, along with a plan to shift 1,000 positions to lower-cost locations.

2008: Royal Canadian Mounted Police lay fraud charges against former Nortel CEO Frank Dunn and two other former executives of the telecommunications equipment maker.

Nortel posts a third-quarter net loss of $3.41 billion US and announces 1,300 more layoffs.

2009: Nortel files for court protection from its creditors.

Now, where is it Wells Fargo Bank's fault she ain't gettin' a big bonus along with her pink slip?

I got no sympathy for her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 09/28/2009
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Nortel didn't hold her mortgage, so where is the revenge?

As someone struggling in this economy, I can sympathize with her money situation but why does she get national attention for it?
Even though she can't get a lump sum on her pension at least she still has one. She rolled the dice in a shaky economy and lost, it doesn't make her a hero, it makes her a another statistic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 09/28/2009
- arabianway I'm a Fan of arabianway 7 fans permalink

Exactly. She is 58 years old so the single mom thing doesn't get much merit either. I mean, how old are the kids?

Just because she is pi**ed off, she doesn't have to throw the house away for revenge. The mortgage is probably quite affordable on her pension. Mayville, GA is not Palm Beach.

Lots of folks are way worse off than you are Ms. Amick. Be grateful for what you still have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 10/03/2009
- jhink465 I'm a Fan of jhink465 12 fans permalink

What makes a CEO worth the mega bucks they are paid? What skills do they really bring to the enterprise? There are a 100 management people in any big corporation who has been there a while who could take the reins and operate the company at a fraction of the salary and bonus and would be happy to do so. What these CEOs have that makes them their money is their anti-social strength. These are the kind of people that can lay off a thousand loyal workers who were the builders of the company and never bat an eye. They in their heartlessness view workers as mere commodities that are as disposable as a used Kleenex. They are the warlords of Wall Street's profit machine. How familiar are the stories of CEOs that plunder and pillage companies until they are a shell and then after floating down on their golden parachutes get to do it all over again at another company all the while reaping more and more profits for themselves and their cronies. We all sit here blithely thinking that these are the architects of our economy and job base who will save us when in fact they are the wrecking crew. Our Linda Amick is firing a shot that will be heard around the world in her revenge against Wells Fargo. I think there will be many more to come if history is any kind of measure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 09/28/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 76 fans permalink

They just laugh all the way to the bank, they have their safety nets and too bad for the rest of us......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 09/28/2009
- feyangel I'm a Fan of feyangel 25 fans permalink
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I agree with her sense of outrage that these executives (like many others) are still receiving such high salaries and bonuses when their companies are failing. Hmmm-- what kind of expertise does it require to fail?? Any of us could have done that-- so perhaps we are all eligible for those bonuses. I think, bottom line, is that giving those FAILED executives those exhorbitant bonuses is not only poor for the "little guys'" morale-- but also, it does NOT MAKE SENSE economically.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 09/28/2009
- dtrobert I'm a Fan of dtrobert 8 fans permalink

"because of the high level of expertise for these individuals"?

That's the biggest load of crock I've heard. NO EXECUTIVE HAS ANY EXPERTISE TO SPEAK OF. In the vast majority of corporations, the only skill members of the executive have is the ability to brown-nose. Those people who actually have skills which contribute to the company's bottom line are usually too busy working to do the necessary boot-licking, brown-nosing and overall navel-picking required to achieve the highest levels of incompetence required of today's CEOs and other executives.

In 90% of corporations, you could fire the entire executive without a single cent of negative impact to the bottom line. They are the most replaceable people in the company. Even a filing clerk adds more value than the CEO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 09/28/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 76 fans permalink

You have to replace the boards of directors (the members of the CEO circle jerk fraternity).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 09/28/2009
- condor101 I'm a Fan of condor101 50 fans permalink

It's too bad that you don't realize that the banks want you to default on your mortgage. They have AIG to watch their backs. Bank executives game the system so that they never lose money.

A few years ago when i worked at a fortune 100 company, one of my co-workers got a job with Nortel Networks and was looking forward to his new position. Another co-worker was promoted with my company. I was let go and since then I never looked back at corporate america. I started my own company in a growth industry.

My two former co-workers? The one who stayed was eventually laid off and he has been trying to get another job. And now I realize the other co-worker must have lost his job at Nortel earlier this year. I'm certainly glad that I left corporate america. I knew it's all run by a bunch of crooks, feeding off the lives of regular working people. Starting your own business is the only way to survive in the U.S.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 AM on 09/28/2009
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The truth that the banking industry had no intentions of using the free money from TARP to "help" anyone but themselves was evident September 15, 2008.

Why would you give your tax dollars to ensure that the bank is there tomorrow to forclose on your mortgage?

Systemic stupidity has replaced all reasonableness and the Rule of Law is eviscerated by the private banking group, the Federal Reserve.

Is it treason yet? Start using that word when you write to your Senator and demand an audit of the Federal Reserve ... stop letting a private group of bankers destroy everything you work for ... or keep chosing the slavery you have?

Afterall, I'm just Repiblican noise!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 09/27/2009
- iblogleft I'm a Fan of iblogleft 86 fans permalink
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I don't think people realize this, but they want you to default.

Sure, they make money when you pay for it, but they make 30 times more when you default and the default swap they sold at 30 times the value of your loan gets paid to them by AIG. They used the money from your loan to get more loans for cash they bet on you failing to pay them back. It was a "shorting" on their own loans. Only instead of just being paid for your loan that defaulted, they get paid for the loan they took out at 30 to 1, because it was insured against failure. Nifty eh?

That was the plan folks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 09/27/2009
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 65 fans permalink

Adevastating peek into inner workings of Dante'sHell. Asummarycomment by PhilipTaylor on another blogthread, listed top5 "TooBigToFail" culprits receiving TARPcash have grandtotal of toxic (mortgage) assets exceeding $200Trillion --- (over $200,000,0­00,000,000 !!!) US TotalNationalDebt today is approaching $12Trillion. Inotherwords, there's not snowball's chance inhell that magnitude of toxicassets would EVER be rescued and reconciled with TARPmoney, notin 10years, noteven 50years. USA would be declared bankrupt by international bankers before that's paidoff.

To rational+i­ntelligent layman observers, that StateOfAffairs would indicate the recent Japanese model in banking sector and general economy appears very likely tobe replicated in WashingtonDC and rest of USA. What it means on the ground is people would never hear the ugly truth from the chief architects of economic rescue plan "TARP" --- Geithner and Summers. It's simply an externally observable fact the ugly truth of this enormous banking and WallStreet heist is so toxic, so ugly, and so devastating if it's truly understood by the public that nobody on the inside dares to openly talk about its true state and implications. So people would regularly hear from them semi-reassuring semi-frightening pablum pronouncements that "things are bad but things are looking up." --- you know, "U-shaped recovery" and all that krap . . . and they might try to keep this charade from "Washingto­nDC+WallSt­reet Inc." going indefinitely aslongas people would swallaw it without violent throwup reactions. Folks, the Japanese banking mess and general economy stayed submerged underwater for OVER 15YEARS.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 09/27/2009
- kyosaku I'm a Fan of kyosaku 10 fans permalink
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Trying to blow away the invisible aerosol of an epidemic with fans placed around the capitol...­right! That'll work too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 09/27/2009
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 65 fans permalink

Friends, countrymen, citizens.

If you have tears, shed them now.

If you've BankDeposits, think 3timesover.
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You won't get secondchance clearer warning than this veiled warning from somebody in charge (FDIC) who knows inside truth, but isn't allowed tospeak plainly, whose bosses have more togain from hiding truth than letting it out.

If you have USdollars (or equivalent savings) under your mattress, or in your childrens' trust fund, or in your retirement private pension, or in stocks, bonds, Treasury Notes, or any combination thereof, consider alternative stores of value.
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In your retrospective judgment of the historical facts, quietly contemplate on the wisdom of the above prescient 2words of FREE advice, disguised as a "funnyman's one-liner joke".
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These're public information, easily verifiable by anybody, for individual citizens' quiet contemplat­ion+selfpr­eservation in stressful times of official corruption@all levels+rampant greed in allsectors. They question+challenge "Conventio­nalWisdom" freely dispensed on MassMedia commercial­TV+radio+p­ress.

MarkTwain: "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 AM on 09/28/2009
- kyosaku I'm a Fan of kyosaku 10 fans permalink
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You need a mortgage lender to help sell your home. Good luck on that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 09/27/2009
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Not true ... I'll give her a $1 for it ... she just doesn't want to accept the fair market value has gone down ... and along with the rest of the homeowners who got burned in the real estate boom!

Okay, I'll give her $2 for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 09/27/2009
- StephenJK I'm a Fan of StephenJK 23 fans permalink

"You just wonder how much outrage the American citizens can tolerate before there starts to be revolt."

I'll tell you. The more people that ponder this same question the closer we come. And there've been a lot of people pondering over the last few years. Seems to be gaining some steam. I know the first to join will be the unemployed and there seems to be a lot of them, as well, at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 09/27/2009

How do we do this - I don't understand why we haven't already!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 09/29/2009
- jalowe1957 I'm a Fan of jalowe1957 41 fans permalink
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That's what life is these days: more screw jobs than what goes on inside a gay bathhouse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 09/27/2009
- markdf I'm a Fan of markdf 2 fans permalink

You would have been more accurate if you said "at a hotel with a bunch of straight Christian men away from their wives at a business convention­."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 09/28/2009
- tripper69z I'm a Fan of tripper69z 8 fans permalink

Linda,
I am so sorry for your loss. And then to have to watch the execs get their golden parachutes on top of it must be awful. There is no fairness in this world anymore. You do what you have to do to survive. Don't listen to people who judge. Let them walk a mile in your shoes.
The middle class is quickly becoming extinct. It will soon only be the ultra rich and the very very poor if Congress (who are owned by the ultra rich) doesn't change things immediately. Not much hope here.
But you are young and educated. Hopefully you can network with former business contacts and find another job...mayb­e rent your home (or even a room) to keep from losing everything. Good luck to you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 AM on 09/27/2009
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 65 fans permalink

A very empathic and thoughtful response, tripper, wish there're more people like you to mutually encourage and network in solidarity to weather the gathering storm. In fact, I hope LINDA would try all kinds of creative comebacks like starting her own website to do online business, or become EBAY buyers and sellers. I know some friends of my friends who have successfully done that, on a small practical scale. Just about ANYTHING you can creatively think of, there would be an online auction market for them. Anybody can get started, just by watching carefully how it's done. Linda, good luck, and don't give up.

Linda, a CREATIVE COMEBACK might be the best revenge on a whole class of predators in society that have gone pathologically insane. You can't spare your time and energies to worry about them. They would eventually find their own ways to self-destruct from their own excesses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 09/27/2009
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 65 fans permalink

It would be ironic and sweet justice if the family and wife of a US Army Tank Corp commanding Colonel got ripped off this way by one of the Wall Street subprime mortgage banks, and also lost the pension, . . . etc. would lead his tank corp up to Capital Hill, and like Yeltsin standing on top of a Russian Tiger tank in Moscow Red Square, . . . fire a shell at the dome of the Congress. There would be a cheer across the nation, so loud that every Congressman and Senator and the President can hear it from their offices. That would be such sweet relief. I wonder which Congressman would join and stand on top of a tank in front of Congress . . . maybe Kucinich? Michael Moore? to signal the start of the Second American Revolution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 AM on 09/27/2009

You are not alone Chopin. Many are dreaming of revolution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 09/27/2009
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 65 fans permalink

Don't give up, WorkingClass. Many thoughtful longtime readers on Huffpost have found a clearly downward trend in the growing number and quality of inane irrelevance of tr0lls taking over the commenting. But I truly believe the rapid growth dynamics of Huffpost in the interactive newsnetworking medium would enable it to outgrow that temporary undesirable trend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 09/27/2009
- LCLA I'm a Fan of LCLA 22 fans permalink
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People have gone to jail in the past for advocating the violent overthrow of the government in the past. I don't think the laws have changed on that so much as the enforcement, so you and your militia buddies had better not be too surprised when they start enforcing these laws again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 09/28/2009
- KIVPossum I'm a Fan of KIVPossum 54 fans permalink
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Interesting bit of logic she has. She buys a home, get's laid off by Nortel, and it becomes the mortage holder's fault she can't sell it?

That's a stretch.

I've never had a mortgage holder guarantee me I could sell a home.

Her wrath should be directed at Nortel, not Wells Fargo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 AM on 09/27/2009
- alexdog I'm a Fan of alexdog 10 fans permalink

Agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 09/27/2009
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But what ever happened to personal responsibility? In America, it's always got to be someone else's fault ... and that is at the heart of socialism ... make someone else responsible until NO ONE is!

I just can't stop laughing at the systemic stupidity!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 09/27/2009
- Halsey I'm a Fan of Halsey 33 fans permalink
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KIV...you'­vemade a valid point...bu­t I WORK for this behemouth.­..and the horror stories I could tell...I'm i my own personal "maze"...r­ight now trying to get my insurance situation fixed..."s­omeone"..a­nd that person ADMITS to improperly filing my paperwork.­..showing me as uninsured (I still very much for for them..albe­it on disability due to cancer and treatment)­...so..her­e I am..100'00­0's of dollars in medical bills...in­dicating NO coverage..­.admittedl­y this is not the same as the mortgage division..­but what is shows clear as day...THES­E BANKS are too big...they can't even follow their own paperwork.

While I need this job (under the assumption some day...they­'ll "fix" my own situation)­...I also know I can no longer be a whore...wo­rking for this corporate pimp.... I HOPE Linda and her ilk bring down these "too big to fail"....T­eddy Roosevelt would have broken them up...into manageable pieces...O­bama was and is naive (I still like him..but see his many flaws and he's too nice)...MY President needs to be a mix of the two Roosevelts­..FDR (compassio­n..getting american back to work and FIX our sagging infrastruc­ture)..and Teddy...do to Chase/Gold­man/Wells/­Citigroup.­..what had to be done to Standard Oil...then­..LET them fail..with NO parachutes for the idiots who run them into the ground while still earning millions..­. I think it's hopeless..­..someone.­.cheer me up please...a­nd pass the chemo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 09/28/2009
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I agree. Why Wells Fargo? It's strange. I am actually defending a bank.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 09/28/2009
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