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Spanish Speakers Targeted in Census Plan

AMY TAXIN | 09/28/09 10:19 PM | AP

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LONG BEACH, Calif. — When Teresa Ocampo opens her census questionnaire, she won't have to worry about navigating another document in English.

The 40-year old housewife who only speaks basic English will be able to fill hers out in Spanish – which is exactly what U.S. officials were banking on when they decided to mail out millions of bilingual questionnaires next year.

For the first time, the decennial census will be distributed in the two languages to 13.5 million households in predominantly Spanish-speaking neighborhoods. Latino advocates hope the forms will lead to a more accurate count by winning over the trust of immigrants who are often wary of government and may be even more fearful after the recent surge in immigration raids and deportations.

"If the government is reaching out to you in a language you understand, it helps build trust," said Arturo Vargas, executive director of the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials. "I think the community has become really sensitive to political developments, and the census is the next step in this movement that we're seeing of civic engagement in the Latino community."

Traditionally, experts say, the Census Bureau has undercounted minority and immigrant communities, who are harder to reach because of language barriers and distrust of government.

Latino advocates hope the bilingual forms will help show their strength in numbers to underscore their growing political influence and garner more in federal funds that are determined by population.

Census officials say they designed the bilingual forms after extensive research, using the Canadian census questionnaire as an example. Over a six-year testing period, officials said the forms drew a better response in Spanish-speaking areas.

The bilingual forms will be mailed out to neighborhoods where at least a fifth of households report speaking primarily Spanish and little English, said Adrienne Oneto, assistant division chief for content and outreach at the Census Bureau in Washington. The cost of preparing and mailing the bilingual questionnaires is about $26 million, which is more than it would have cost to send only English forms.

More than a quarter of the forms will be distributed in California from Fresno to the Mexican border, with Los Angeles County topping the list. The Miami and Houston areas will also receive sizable numbers of the questionnaires.

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Automatic mailing of the bilingual forms debuts in 2010. In addition to Spanish, census forms will be made available in Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese and Russian upon request. That's similar to the 2000 census, when participants could request questionnaires in several languages.

But none of those other languages compares to the proliferation of Spanish. Roughly 34 million people reported speaking Spanish at home in the United States in 2007, more than all the other languages combined except English. Eighty percent of the U.S. population reported speaking only English at home.

The question is whether the bilingual forms will help overcome immigrant fears of federal authorities after seeing friends and family swept up in immigration raids over the last few years. While census data is confidential, many immigrants are wary of any interaction with the government.

"It is a difficult time for immigrants and I could see where there might be concern where being counted might lead to future negative consequences," said Clara E. Rodriguez, professor of sociology at Fordham University in New York.

There are also concerns that the recession has dried up funding used to encourage people to fill out their census forms.

California, for example, pumped $24.7 million in 2000 into efforts to boost the state's count but has only $2 million budgeted for the upcoming year, said Ditas Katague, the state's 2010 census director.

The Census Bureau has worked with Spanish-language TV giant Telemundo to help get the word out. The network's telenovela "Mas Sabe el Diablo" (The Devil Knows Best) will feature a character who applies to be a census worker.

Adding to the challenge of getting more people to participate is a boycott of the census called by Latino Christian leaders. They want illegal immigrants to abstain from filling out the forms to pressure communities that depend on their numbers to support immigration reform.

Census officials say they don't expect a backlash from English speakers because those likely to receive bilingual forms are used to hearing the two languages side by side.

Rob Toonkel, a spokesman for the pro-English advocacy group U.S. English, said he supports census outreach in a myriad of languages but worries that sending bilingual questionnaires only in Spanish might rub some immigrants the wrong way.

"When you start saying, well, this is our preferred immigrant group – whatever group that may be – it sends a very dangerous message," Toonkel said. "It would be the same thing if they started sending (it) to New Hampshire in French or Detroit in Arabic."

Joe Kasper, a spokesman for Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., said the forms should be sent only in English to encourage people to learn the language.

"Taxpayers should not have to carry the additional expense of providing bilingual questionnaires," Kasper said.

But many say the bilingual forms make practical sense – especially since youngsters may speak English even if their parents prefer Spanish.

In Ocampo's neighborhood in central Long Beach, Mexican immigrants live in a dense stretch of bungalows and two-story apartment buildings alongside African-Americans, Asians and whites. Children playing in the street call out to each other in English, then respond to their parents in flawless Spanish.

That's how Ocampo, who is originally from Mexico, said she would have filled out the English census questionnaire if she had to.

"For me, it's much better in Spanish because I don't know English, not enough to fill out a long form," said Ocampo, whose teenage children are bilingual. "If they send it in English or Spanish, either way I'll do it, because my kids speak English."

LONG BEACH, Calif. — When Teresa Ocampo opens her census questionnaire, she won't have to worry about navigating another document in English. The 40-year old housewife who only speaks basic Eng...
LONG BEACH, Calif. — When Teresa Ocampo opens her census questionnaire, she won't have to worry about navigating another document in English. The 40-year old housewife who only speaks basic Eng...
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- ibsteve2u I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u 239 fans permalink
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When are they going to let us do the Census by computer?

Man...the hand I used to open that envelope the last time immediately cramped in foreboding...

I got straight "D" grades in handwriting for a reason.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 9/29/2009
- Beca I'm a Fan of Beca 41 fans permalink

Many people seem to forget that Puerto Rico is a Territory of the U.S. and Puerto Rico is a Spanish speaking Island, with many PuertoRican people living here in the U.S. They are not immigrants, they are U.S. citizens. Decades ago, the U.S. tried to eliminate Spanish in Puerto Rico, that was an enornous failure that only resulted in millions of people no receiving proper education (the U.S. imposed English-only in their schools and nobody spoke English so they couldn't understand the lessons being taught!), and that idiotic policy was reversed after 20 years. People who have the distroted notion that any and all government forms and documents should only be available in English clearly don't understand the complex dynamics of the U.S. population. By having inaccessible govenemnt forms only prevents not only legal immigrants but many U.S. citizens from equal access, and from providing vital statistical infomration needed by our government to provide vital services to people living in this country. If we are to have an accurate picture of the U.S. population, we must make the collection of data accesible to as many people as possible.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 9/29/2009
- rhubardpi I'm a Fan of rhubardpi 4 fans permalink

The bi-lingual forms are cheaper than the English only?? Now all the illegal cry babies will start screaming that all Americans must become bi-lingual so government can save money. Cinco my aho.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 AM on 9/29/2009
- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 110 fans permalink
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If you're trying to communicate any kind of message, doing so in the language that your audience speaks is a no-brainer.

The function of the census isn't to send any message about assimilating, or about who's welcome and who isn't. Its job is to get the right answers to its survey. It has no other goal.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 9/29/2009
- Pem3 I'm a Fan of Pem3 26 fans permalink
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Yep it is all about who can get taxed and registered as a person living in this country nothing else.
Well shouldn't be anyway.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 9/29/2009
- Tim303 I'm a Fan of Tim303 119 fans permalink
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No doubt. In the UK they have such forms in Hindi and Urdu, etc. etc.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 9/29/2009
- Shinwi I'm a Fan of Shinwi permalink

So many here who think immigrants in the U.S. should be pressured to learn English? We shouldn't forget that our founding fathers generally didn't bother with the countless Native American languages that now are either extinct or soon on their way.

To be fair, there are mutual benefits to encouraging our non-English speakers to assimilate. They'll ultimately find their own dealings with American society to be much easier, and we "native speakers" of course won't be frustrated by a language barrier.

But that doesn't change the fact that Hispanics are a rapidly growing demographic whose days of minority status are numbered. When the day finally comes that non-SPANISH speakers are the minority, I hope you'll all own up to your own logic and learn proper Espanol.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 9/28/2009
- bokknows I'm a Fan of bokknows permalink

Talossa, what is ZAPATAS? might want to get a spanish dictionary before making a fool of yourself.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 9/28/2009
- whypassword I'm a Fan of whypassword 4 fans permalink

Why are you jumping on Talossa for switching out a vowel yet you give millions of non-English speakers a pass?

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 9/28/2009
- Talossa I'm a Fan of Talossa 93 fans permalink
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Sorry... food on the brain. :-)

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 9/28/2009
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When will America accept the fact that other that the Native People, you are all immigrants who refused to learn the Native language.
Once again you have to learn from Canada, where we embrace Multi-Culturalism. By LAW, all government documents and services MUST BE available in BOTH Official Languages. This also includes services on the telephone & Internet & food packaging. Imported good must have bilingual packaging. It is a way of life for us. Rather than berate those who have chosen Canada as their home, and have a different language, we strive to accommodate rather than isolate. That goes a long way in establishing a sense of community and belonging. English as a Second Language Classes are always filled.

Xenophobia is not freedom. It will keep you all enslaved.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 9/28/2009
- Talossa I'm a Fan of Talossa 93 fans permalink
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First you berate Americans for not learning Native languages, then you boast about how your documents are available in English and French?

Biculturalism works great for Canada, because Canada has two founding cultures. (Technically, you should give up English and learn French, because the French were there first, or at least before the English.)

And if you are so committed to multiculturalism, why are your ESL classes always full?

ESL = assimilation. And I'm all for it. :-)

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 9/28/2009
- Tim303 I'm a Fan of Tim303 119 fans permalink
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In France you expect the French to speak English, no? Sorry, in Freedom, that should be.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 9/29/2009
- annie g I'm a Fan of annie g 40 fans permalink

For centuries our "official" language was English, even though we have many people that come from around the world to live in America. That is what was considered assimilating as many legal immigrants went to school to learn English.
And now because of the "growing" population of Spanish (legal and illegal) immigrants there seems to be a demand that we have have signs and forms in their language. How do you pass a drivers' license test in Spanish when the road signs are in English? Why not have it in all languages then instead of Spanish. We have a major population of Chinese in this country on the east and west coasts, but I don't ever recall hearing "English or Chinese" when I have placed calls to companies.
It seems that the Spanish language is taking over every other language, including English in America and we are required to learn it or many Americans are considered racists. To live in a country and expect us to learn "their" language instead of the other way around is disrespectful. When I lived in Florida a referendum was trying to pass that Spanish should be made the official language of the state. I found it to be insulting.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 9/29/2009
- Pem3 I'm a Fan of Pem3 26 fans permalink
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One should learn the language of the victor, then the acceptance of other languages and cultures will come about. Remember that the native Americans did not have a common language until after being beaten.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 9/29/2009
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To those who have responded, I thank you and wish to expand on my comment.

My concern lies more in the lack of respect toward those who do not speak English. Although these new arrivals may not speak English, this DOES NOT mean that they are ignorant. It just means that they have not yet learned English. To diminish these people, you diminish your own ancestors, who built the USA. Many of these people come from countries with a cultural heritage that is thousands of years old. We can all learn from each other. That is multi-culturalism.
America's sense of entitlement is not more, nor is it less, than the sense of entitlement of people of ALL cultural and linguistic origins. Each human being is entitled to their dignity.
Bilingual census forms respects the dignity of these individuals who are now contributing to American society. Toward that end, the cost of printing is negligible.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 9/29/2009
- janeycat I'm a Fan of janeycat 112 fans permalink
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....if you are going to live here then speak english...if i lived in Mexico i would be expected to speak Spanish,,,,,if i lived in Russia i would be expected to speak Russian and so on
its disrespectful to Americans and you live in our country.....
it showing that you have respect for yourself when you learn anything new...

my niece had a friend in school that her parents didn't speak english.....her mom couldn't even go shopping alone...the girl had to translate everything for her....but her mom didn't want to learn to speak english...could not even go get groceries...huh....i felt sorry for her at first then the more i thought about it .....it kinda made me mad.....we could not even talk about our kids..( my niece lived with me ) she also had a deaf friend and my niece learned sign languish....

you get out of life what you put in.....put forth some effort and learn to live with us
dont expect us to conform to your ways..
some people will learn to speak spanish out of respect for you

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 9/28/2009
- Talossa I'm a Fan of Talossa 93 fans permalink
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It annoys me in department stores where the sign reads (for instance) SHOES / ZAPATAS. I'm sorry -- if you don't know enough English to recognize the word "shoes" then honestly, you don't belong in this country.

I have no problem with a bilingual census if it produces a more accurate total, but the goal has to be to get everybody to speak English.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 9/28/2009
- Talossa I'm a Fan of Talossa 93 fans permalink
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ZAPATOS... I don't know enough Spanish to live in Mexico!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 9/28/2009
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 86 fans permalink

And you could do well to learn the rules of capitalization for English, too. For that matter, learning how to properly express yourself in written or English, if that is your native language, would get you farther in life, as well. Your comment would not have earned high marks in my classroom were I still teaching. Although I can figure out what you are trying to say, it is very poorly written in terms of sentence construction, word usage, punctuation, use of apostrophe mark and caps where needed and includes an extreme overuse of period marks between phrases, which leads me to believe you have no idea when to use colons, semi colons or commas. When one criticizes another's lack of language skills, one should show proper language skills in order to make one's point valid.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 9/28/2009
- Beca I'm a Fan of Beca 41 fans permalink

There are millions of retired Americans who live in Mexico who barely speak any Spanish at all and they get by just fine. This is because most places of service in Mexico have at least one person who is fluent in English. These American retirees who live in Mexico have their own "American" communities, with English language newspapers, and access to all services in English.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 9/29/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 161 fans permalink
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I have lived abroad in a couple different countries over the years, 2 of which were not english speaking.
I have also traveled to several countries that were not english speaking countries. I found world wide that if you stay within the tourist designated areas you will find people who speak some english or can somehow perform basic communications ( pictures , gestures ect...) with an english speaking person.

Once you step outside those boundaries its next to impossible to find someone who speaks english, and they do not wish to try. What I am getting at is that I have not been to any other country on earth that insist that their citizens learn english and give non native speakers rights over and above that of their own citizens, except my own country of the United States of America.

Go to Mexico, or even just Quebec in Canada. Brazil, Germany, France, Japan, China, oh heck, pick a country. You go there, you have to assimilate or your the one who has to deal with it. Here, its the other way around and I have never understood that.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 9/28/2009
- mummblemouth I'm a Fan of mummblemouth 103 fans permalink
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I too have traveled extensively, and you are correct in this assertion. English is wide-spread, and charades can go a long way, but in any non-English speaking country I've lived in or traveled to official documents are in the native language. Of course, this could have something to do with the percentage of non-native speakers present, and if there were to suddenly be a significant influx on non-native speaking citizens this could change.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 9/28/2009
- hamchunk I'm a Fan of hamchunk 36 fans permalink

You are exactly correct. The problem here is that many new immigrants do not wish to assimilate. They (and we) have been told for so long that all cultures are equally important. And while pride in your ethnic heritage is alright, new immigrants are not being encouraged to immerse into the "American" culture and that includes learning the common language of this nation. Many new immigrants are only here for the monetary and economic gains to be had. If your only motivation to live in the US is for money, then you do not feel the necessity to be a part of the American fabric.

And, as a side note, immigrants that are here illegally, whether from Europe, Africa, Asia or the Americas, show they do not respect the laws of this nation and flaunting their illegality, have no intention of assimilating. But why our political leaders, both Left and Right, pander to them is beyond me.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 9/28/2009
- Beca I'm a Fan of Beca 41 fans permalink

hanchunck, once again, your assumptions are baseless! It is not true that most immigrants don't want to "assimilate", but when the host culture is absent of any real cultural mores and rejects these immigrants as second class citizens, what do you expect them to do? People are social beings, and as such, have a need to belong to something, if the natives of a host country rejects the new immigrants and pushes them to the fringe of society, the new immigrants have no choice but to hang onto their culture in order to survive. Most other countires have very old, established, rich cultures and traditions whereas here in the U.S. our "culture" is vague. What exactly defines "American culture"? what is it exactly? we don't have a national dress, food, dance, customs, music that one could say "American", as other countries do. This is primarily because when we first arrived in this continent, we rejected the cutlure of the First Americans/Native Americans, so we started off with no root, no base cultural mores. So what exactly does one "assimilate" to in America? greed, selfishness, xenophobia? hotdogs, baseball, what exactly?

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 9/29/2009
- whypassword I'm a Fan of whypassword 4 fans permalink

Well-said Loki--love the name by the way! I have travelled the world as well. While I have found English speakers in the most surprising places, I never expected it. Nor did I expect any of the signage or official forms of those countries to be in English. Additionally, no other country rolls out the red carpet for illegal immigrants the way the U.S. does. The U.S. really needs to work on immigration balance so people from certain countries are not given preference over persons from others (think Cuba and Haiti) and illegal immigration is strongly discouraged.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 9/28/2009
- mummblemouth I'm a Fan of mummblemouth 103 fans permalink
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What do you call a person who speaks three languages?
Trilingual

And two languages?
Bilingual

How about one language?
An American

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 9/28/2009
- Talossa I'm a Fan of Talossa 93 fans permalink
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I speak two languages fluently (English and French), two adequately (German and Spanish) and can get by in Italian. But I'm still an American. And I would like to be able to carry on a conversation, in English, with anyone who actually lives in the United States.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 9/28/2009
- Prakosh I'm a Fan of Prakosh 455 fans permalink
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According to your thinking a person shouldn't come to the country until they are well versed in English. This has never been the general rule. Mostly the first generation do not learn English but the second generation usually go to school here and learn more and better English than their parents; by the third generation the first language is usually not retained at all and the only language the children know is English. My great-gandmother lived on Chicago's south side for nearly eighty years and I couldn't speak to her without a translator.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 9/29/2009
- Pem3 I'm a Fan of Pem3 26 fans permalink
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That would be because learning new languages is not stressed and is hurting our kids globally.
We should learn new languages it helps understand others, and still keep our own.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 9/29/2009
- Deevah I'm a Fan of Deevah permalink

It is really ridiculous that we are spending money on bilingual census forms. If these people are citizens, then they should be able to read a simple census form. This is a waste of taxpayers money.
many Spanish speaking immigrants seem to prefer Spanish to learning to speak and read English. How long are we going to placate these people?

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 9/28/2009
- bluguy8 I'm a Fan of bluguy8 31 fans permalink

when I took the written test for a drivers license they asked me what language did I want it in. I said what do you have. it's ridiculous the amount they had. And the girl told me, most of the people that pass it's in English. when you take the road test you can't take a translator with you and most fail because of lack of comprehension of English

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 9/28/2009
- hamchunk I'm a Fan of hamchunk 36 fans permalink

Usually the states that have the most language choices for drivers license exams and other official documentation are the states with the largest illegal populations. Think New York, North Carolina, Florida, California, etc....

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 9/28/2009
- econ1 I'm a Fan of econ1 13 fans permalink

Not to worry, we have lots of money.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 9/28/2009
- Beca I'm a Fan of Beca 41 fans permalink

Many of "these" people are U.S. citizens, like people from Puerto Rico--a Spanish speaking terriroty of the United States. English is a very difficult language to learn, especially for adults, and those who come here as adults have a particularly difficult time mastering the English language well enough to be able to understand "official" forms. Many learn enough English to be able to speak (to get by) but not enough to be able to understand written English. Besides, after seeing the horribly mis-spelled protest signs of those "English only" teabaggers, it makes me wonder about our own capacity to maintain the English language alive at all!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 AM on 9/29/2009
- Pem3 I'm a Fan of Pem3 26 fans permalink
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I have to agree with you, English is very hard to learn.
It is one of tthe only languages that absobs others, and is also the language of science.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 9/29/2009
- JohnUllmann I'm a Fan of JohnUllmann 5 fans permalink

Queens County NY, with immigrants from more than 90 countries, distributes election information in many more languages, including Spanish, Russian, Korean and Cantonese.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 9/28/2009
- janeycat I'm a Fan of janeycat 112 fans permalink
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dang....im never going to NY
its no longer american......its a melting pot

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 9/28/2009
- farii I'm a Fan of farii 19 fans permalink
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wow!!! what will America be without IMMIGRANTS of all TONGUES and CULTURE???

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 9/28/2009
- Beca I'm a Fan of Beca 41 fans permalink

Unless you are a First American/Native American, you are also part of this "melting pot", so stick a sock in it you ignorant person!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 AM on 9/29/2009
- Pem3 I'm a Fan of Pem3 26 fans permalink
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What on earth do you think we are founded on?

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 9/29/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 241 fans permalink

It is a great idea. The Spanish speaking population will not be as undercounted. Cities will get greater federal funding some of which hopefully they can use for community programs. The Spanish speaking population will get greater representation in Congress and state legislatures. The Republican Party will further recede into a minority party in the deep south.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 9/28/2009
- hamchunk I'm a Fan of hamchunk 36 fans permalink

Hopefully there is a question on the form that states,"Are you here in the United States illegally?".

If that question is there then I have no qualms concerning the extra $26m.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 9/28/2009
- Talossa I'm a Fan of Talossa 93 fans permalink
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Will the question be written in Spanish?

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 9/28/2009
- Halfwit I'm a Fan of Halfwit 58 fans permalink
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Finally!

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