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Grayson Not Backing Down: "I Apologize To The Dead"

First Posted: 11/30/09 05:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:15 PM ET

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Alan Grayson refused to apologize Wednesday for saying on the House floor Tuesday night that the GOP health care plan amounts to "don't get sick" - and if you do, "die quickly."

"I'm not taking any of it back. I stand by what I said," Grayson, a freshman Democrat who represents Orlando, Florida, told reporters.

GOP Rep. Tom Price of Georgia filed a resolution Wednesday censuring Grayson for the comments. But Grayson said he planned to stay on offense.

"The point is that if you do get sick, you're going to have huge medical bills. Your insurance company's not going to help you and as a result of that you're going to end up having the plug pulled on you," he said. "I don't think that the Democrats have to be on the defensive for a bill that reduces health care costs, makes health care premiums affordable, makes people's health care coverage comprehensive in the sense that they can't be excluded for breaching lifetime caps or by preexisting conditions and helps all of the Americans who cannot afford health insurance today. I think we should be on the offense not the defense and that's where I plan to stay."

Grayson said he arrived at his conclusion after listening to Republicans talk on the House floor for months.

"One of the responsibilities we have when we're in the majority is from time to time to be the Speaker pro tem[pore]. And it's been my misfortune to have to listen to them attack our bill now for months and drag out our work on this bill endlessly, while according to Harvard scientists, 47,000 Americans die every year for lack of health insurance. And by the way, that's 20 or so since we started talking about it. That's over a hundred a day," Grayson said.

Grayson's floor speech was intended to be satirical, he said. Now that he's under fire, however, he's standing by it.

"Yes, it was tongue-in-cheek. I'm surprised I have to explain that, but that's the way it goes these days," he said.

Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.) followed Grayson on the House floor Tuesday night and chided him for "making fun of a very important issue." Still, he pronounced himself unamused.

"I can't believe what I just saw. I can't believe it," said Burton on the floor. "First of all, it's totally wrong. And secondly, it's making fun of a very important issue for the American people. We do have health care problems in this country and we need to solve those health care problems, but coming down here and making light of the issue by coming up with a lot of silly talk is just ridiculous. The Republicans have a bill, H.R. 3400, which deals with the problem in a way that does not get the government in between the patient and their doctor."

Asked to clarify if he was being satirical or serious -- two concepts which are not, actually, mutually exclusive -- Grayson responded: "I meant what I said."

Will it hurt his reelection chances? "It improves them. People like elected officials with guts who'll say what they mean," he analyzed.

He also didn't think it could harm relations between the parties. "We're way past that point. They have said no to everything. They are nattering nabobs of negativity. They've been that way since I've been sworn in," he said, echoing Richard Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew.

Earlier in the day, Democratic caucus chair John Larson (Conn.) said he "would suggest" that Grayson apologize. But Grayson said he'd spoken to Larson, claiming Larson had not asked him to apologize and told him he wouldn't do so.

"I've spoken to other members of leadership and nobody has asked me to apologize. Nobody is going to ask me to apologize. As I said before, no rules of the House were broken. We have a - if you bother to look it up - there's something in the Constitution called the Speech and Debate Clause and I think it well covers this situation. So no, nobody is going to ask me to apologize among the Democrats. I think the Republicans have something to apologize for but I made clear exactly what that is last night," he said.

Grayson also took to the House floor to offer a different sort of apology - to those who have died for lack of health insurance. "I apologize to the dead and their families that we haven't acted sooner to end this holocaust in America," he said.

There is "no comparison at all" between his situation and that of Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.), who was condemned for not apologizing for shouting "You lie!" at President Obama, Grayson said.

Wilson, asked about Grayson, finally did offer an apology. "I need to apologize," he said. "I don't know anything about it."

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UPDATE: The Price resolution has yet to be introduced. No decision has been made by GOP leadership whether to go that route, a Republican Study Committee aide said.

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Alan Grayson refused to apologize Wednesday for saying on the House floor Tuesday night that the GOP health care plan amounts to "don't get sick" - and if you do, "die quickly." "I'm not taking any ...
Alan Grayson refused to apologize Wednesday for saying on the House floor Tuesday night that the GOP health care plan amounts to "don't get sick" - and if you do, "die quickly." "I'm not taking any ...
 
 
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ladyvader
Done with 2-party system that has failed us.
08:37 PM on 10/04/2009
I guess Jack Nicholson was right in the movie A Few Good Men when his character said....You can't handle the truth.
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SGlitz
Independent and Proud of it
12:17 PM on 10/04/2009
But don't worry, it's the Republicans who are partisaned...:)
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deschl
01:08 PM on 10/03/2009
BALLSY Love him I will move to his district and vote for him love him, Mr. Balls, something the president and the other democrats need to get.
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Harvee Wallbanger
Republicans... I got no use for you.
07:16 PM on 10/02/2009
A Democrat with balls is always a welcome sight.
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vendorwrites
finally finding my VOICE !
03:46 PM on 10/02/2009
We need to replace some of those "YELLOW DOG DEMOCRATS" with people like Michael Moore, I bet then we could get things done in the White House.
03:11 AM on 10/03/2009
I think you mean Blue Dog and, yes, Rep. Grayson is a hero and he should not apologize.
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ladyvader
Done with 2-party system that has failed us.
08:38 PM on 10/04/2009
He just apologized to the right people. The dead and their families.
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vendorwrites
finally finding my VOICE !
03:45 PM on 10/02/2009
I wish more Democrats would do with Alan Grayson did, it's time to stand up for what is right for the American people.

We have a voice in Alan Grayson! Alan Grayson you have my support.
01:56 PM on 10/02/2009
Possibly Alan Grayson might check the Congressional record, he would find a specific Health care proposal (H.R. 2520 annd S 1099) " Patient's Choice Act" a Republican proposal.

Throwing out broad vitriolic statements is counterproductive, regardless of Party Affiliation to any progress being made in health care reform.

The only productivity from his(Alan Grayson) statement appears to be a rise in his fund raising efforts to keep the office that he seems to have little statesmen like regard for.

Rather than apologize to the Republicans, he should apologize to his constituents and the american people for bringing disgrace to the office of Congressional Representative.
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ladyvader
Done with 2-party system that has failed us.
08:35 PM on 10/04/2009
Sorry, but Grayson apologized to the right people. The dead or dying and their families.
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Lorianne
ama vitam
12:21 PM on 10/02/2009
Stewart Destroys Dems For Not Getting Public Option Passed

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/01/stewart-destroys-dems-for_n_305948.html


At least Sterwart correctly identifies where the logjam is.
WWYTA
We disagree, it does not mean you are correct
09:39 PM on 10/01/2009
Not only is he a out of order, he cannot count. The democrats don't need a single republican vote to pass health care. This is just grandstanding.

He is right the wimpy democrats are not willing to pass a bill with the public option and not have some republicans to blame during the next election.
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LeftRight
TANSTAAFL
07:30 AM on 10/02/2009
That was the point that he was making, that the Democrats shouldn't be listening to the Republicans, since all that the Republicans have done is say "Just Die Already!!!!" To America....
WWYTA
We disagree, it does not mean you are correct
08:17 AM on 10/02/2009
He chose his words poorly and should be held accountable. Why would any politician want someone to die, they stop paying taxes when that happens.

This is the type of behavior that does nothing to advance discussion. It is just grandstanding. The ends never justify the means.
07:39 PM on 10/01/2009
The trouble is that the GnOPe uses an entirely different dictionary than the rest of us. First off, "bipartisan" means "do it our way..nothing less..which, preferably, is nothing at all". Secondly, "health care reform" means "we'll pretend to try and change a few things so that we look like we're doing something, but not enough to upset the profit margin of our sugar-daddies, the Insuramafioso". The latter, of course, is also in the dictionary of Baucus and other ankle-grabbing corpora-dems. Given such "semantic" differences, it's not surprising that they're all in a snit for Grayson calling things by their rightful name!

Yeah..for heaven's sake..use lots of flowery, obfuscative euphemisms, designed to sugar-coat those nasty, dastardly facts, but you never want to come out and actually just tell the cold hard truth! They cover their ears and recite "nah-nah-nah.." and refuse to face the FACT that insurance companies are directly responsible for, as Grayson reminds us, the deaths of tens of thousands each year, by either denying coverage for needed procedures, dropping coverage altogether based on phonied-up "pre-existing" conditions or denying coverage to folks in the first place! Oh..and he did it during his OWN acknowledged speaking time..not boorishly interrupting the President during his speech! Three cheers for an honest man in Congress! Americans are sick and tired of listening to all the bee-ess!
WWYTA
We disagree, it does not mean you are correct
09:43 PM on 10/01/2009
We have the second highest life expectancy of any industrialized nation. Second only to Japan. If you are quoting the facts make sure you have them all. I am thinking the insurance companies had something to do with that as well.
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NHGranite
Killer Koala escapes diner, eats shoots & leaves
09:51 PM on 10/01/2009
Where did you get your stats please?
05:52 PM on 10/01/2009
I think Grayson was simply frustrated at the foot-dragging and whining that is occurring during this most important of debates in need of a resolution-healthcare reform. And I don't guess he's the only frustrated person on Capitol Hill, either. Whatever the case, healthcare, as it now stands, cannot sustain us as a country. Those with health insurance pay already pay for those without. They pay with higher premiums, copays, drugs. They pay with lower maximum coverage. Reforming healthcare will not cost the insured more. Not reforming healthcare will be what costs the insured more. Healthcare, as it now stands, cannot sustain us as a country for a different reason. Thousands of our loved ones die, because they could not afford healthcare. This in itself is tragedy. But there's a more practical loss, a loss of American productivity, ingenuity, creativeness. Many thousands more stay sick more often and for longer periods of time, because they could not afford healthcare. Quality healthcare is not a personal issue, it's an infrastructure issue. A mundane infrastructure, highways, keep our economy & our lives moving. Without them, we would falter miserably. We need healthy people to be a strong America.
08:06 PM on 10/01/2009
Don't forget to mention that over 30% of what they..we..pay in health insurance premiums, first and foremost goes toward the so-called overhead (i.e. profit margin) of the hideously bureaucratic and grossly mismanaged insurance companies! Why, pray tell..in their offense against a government option, do these people never discuss the fact that only 10% of what is paid into Medicare goes to overhead?

We don't see Fed-Ex going out of business because there is a U.S. Post Office! Personally..I don't see what "health insurance" has to do with HEALTH CARE! Health insurance is, as presently constructed, nothing more than another "protection racket"..no different than what the mob offers..and far too many congressmen and women are behaving as nothing more than their "bagmen" and "wiseguys"!

Once upon a time..I remember well..health insurance was a benefit..an OPTION that you were usually GIVEN by an employer. Back then, the premiums were low (or fully paid by your employer) and the insurance companies were actually (mostly) living up to their contracts. Shocking! If we do force these megacorps to compete, they will either mend their ways..or make way for new, smaller insurance companies with a better sense of ethics! Thought the Repubs believed in that principle! What a fraud!
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Lorianne
ama vitam
08:20 PM on 10/01/2009
We could change this game overnight if people would, en masse, cancel their health insurance policies in protest of the huge lobbying that is done (with premiums paid) to get sweetheart deals from lawmakers

If people are serious about reform, they'd do it.
Congress is for sure NOT going to reform insurance to any significant degree ... much less health care (and no, they are not the same thing).

Cut out the middleman.
WWYTA
We disagree, it does not mean you are correct
09:49 PM on 10/01/2009
Fedex does not compete with the post office. Fedex cannot touch a mail box. If they could I doubt the post office would exist. If the post office was so effective then how did fedex come to exist?
04:14 PM on 10/01/2009
We need more kicka$$ dems like Grayson. Maybe wimpy Senate dems schould take notes.
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04:49 PM on 10/01/2009
Yeah he is so tough he won't even face his own constituency.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/18/profile-in-congressional-cowardice/
05:02 PM on 10/01/2009
There you go again, robco. Using the most discredited woman in America (besides palin and coulter of course) to make a point that is immediately discredited by your source.
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Lorianne
ama vitam
06:14 PM on 10/01/2009
He'll face them one way or another soon enough.
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donnabella
someday, my prints will come . . .
04:09 PM on 10/01/2009
go tiger! you da man grayson!
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Photon55
04:06 PM on 10/01/2009
I heard him on MSNBC last nite and was shocked to see a Democrat with backbone and grit standing on the floor of the House impaling republicans without concern for his security and safety. I still am reeling from the effects because never would a Democrat be so bold and brazen to challenge republicans in such a fearless manner. However, Maddow missed the entire point by sticking to his use of the word, holocaust, which became tiresome and annoying. Mr Grayson has my complete support and the state of Florida, is now the great state of Florida because here is a man to reckon with.
04:21 PM on 10/01/2009
Agreed. Everybody focused on the use of the word holocaust and RM missed the point. Grayson used it as small "h" holocaust, which is a word that exists independently from the big "H" holocaust referring to the attempted genocide of millions by Na$i Germany.

According to Webster's dictionary
"Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin holocaustum, from Greek holokauston, from neuter of holokaustos burnt whole, from hol- + kaustos burnt, from kaiein to burn — more at caustic
Date: 13th century
1 : a sacrifice consumed by fire
2 : a thorough destruction involving extensive loss of life especially through fire
3 a often capitalized : the mass slaughter of European civilians and especially Jews by the Nazis during World War II —usually used with the b : a mass slaughter of people; especially : genocide"

Grayson was referring to the death of more than 40,000 people as a direct result of their not having health insurance. To me, that easily fits "a thorough destruction involving extensive loss of life." Therefore his use was neither inappropriate nor insensitive to the "Holocaust" and it's victims and survivors. Rachel is a Rhodes scholar and is generally quite astute. In this case, she missed the boat and got on my nerves.
08:30 PM on 10/01/2009
So true! The word is not soley confined to one horrible event in history..it even predates (as you pointed out) that grotesque event by centuries and rightfully applies to a whole host of other tragic occurences in the human repertoire! The intentional withholding of care, leading to thousands and thousands of deaths, certainly qualifies for that list, as well!

It is becoming so ridiculous, that we must tippy-toe around virtually anything that just might (also) possibly reference the Jewish people or Israel, lest we be considered sacrilegious or outright labeled as "anti-Semitic"! (I doubt most people even realize that Arabs are Semites, too, for that matter?)

The Holocaust, unfortunately, does not have a lock on the human cruelty scenario..think Cambodia and countless other examples of man's inhumanity to man. Sorry Rachel..love ya but we need to get over this hyper-sensitivity on the subject!
WWYTA
We disagree, it does not mean you are correct
09:27 AM on 10/02/2009
He used the word to amplify his grandstanding. The ends do not justify the means.

Democrats do not need a single Republican to pass their bill. If they are so courageous why all the fuss. Pass the bill!

The polls disagree with your version of the facts on support for reform.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform
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Lorianne
ama vitam
04:06 PM on 10/01/2009
Stewart Destroys Dems For Not Getting Public Option Passed

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/01/stewart-destroys-dems-for_n_305948.html