Cheney FBI Interview Must Be Released, Judge Says

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NEDRA PICKLER | 10/ 1/09 12:13 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — A federal judge ruled Thursday that the FBI must publicly reveal much of its notes from an interview with former Vice President Dick Cheney during the investigation into who leaked the identity of a CIA operative.

Cheney agreed to be interviewed by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald in June 2004 during the investigation of the leak of Valerie Plame's identity after her husband publicly criticized the Bush administration. Both the Bush and Obama administrations said they wanted to keep the interview confidential because future presidents, vice presidents and their senior staff may not cooperate with criminal investigations if they know what they say could became public.

But U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan ruled there was no justification to withhold the entire 67 pages of FBI records documenting Fitzgerald's interview since the Plame leak investigation has concluded. He said that limited parts could be withheld to protect national security and private communications between the president and vice president.

The Justice Department told Sullivan in a hearing this summer that if he ordered the documents released, they would appeal and seek to withhold them until the matter is resolved. The Justice Department declined to comment on the ruling Thursday.

Plame's identity was leaked to news organizations after her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, criticized the Bush administration's prewar intelligence on Iraq in 2003.

The leak touched off a lengthy inquiry that led to Cheney's former top aide, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, being convicted on charges of obstruction of justice and lying to investigators. During his trial, jurors found that Libby lied to the FBI and a grand jury about his conversations with reporters. Then-President George W. Bush commuted Libby's sentence, and Libby never served prison time.

Libby was the only person charged in the case. No one was charged with leaking Wilson's name.

Libby told the FBI in 2003 that it was possible that Cheney ordered him to reveal Plame's identity to reporters. The prosecutor in that case, Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, said in his closing remarks at Libby's trial that there was a "cloud" over Cheney's role in the case.

In July 2008, the liberal watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the Justice Department seeking records related to Cheney's interview in the investigation. The Justice Department said there were two sets of notes taken by FBI agents during the interview and a report summarizing it, but declined to turn over the records. CREW filed a lawsuit in August.

CREW executive Melanie Sloan said in a statement that the group hopes the Obama administration will reveal the entire record in the interest of transparency.

"The American people deserve to know the truth about the role the vice president played in exposing Mrs. Wilson's covert identity," Sloan said. "High-level government officials should not be permitted to hide their misconduct from public view."

The Justice Department said the documents were exempt since they were part of a law enforcement matter and their release could interfere with future cases. They said the White House not cooperate if they know what they say could become available to their political opponents and late-night comics like those on "The Daily Show," who would ridicule them.

They also said the interview contained classified material and that presidential communications were shielded to allow candor with the president and his advisers.

WASHINGTON — A federal judge ruled Thursday that the FBI must publicly reveal much of its notes from an interview with former Vice President Dick Cheney during the investigation into who leaked ...
WASHINGTON — A federal judge ruled Thursday that the FBI must publicly reveal much of its notes from an interview with former Vice President Dick Cheney during the investigation into who leaked ...
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"...they wanted to keep the interview confidential because future presidents, vice presidents and their senior staff may not cooperate with criminal investigations if they know what they say could became public."

Since when were presidential administrations exempt from cooperating with criminal investigations? I bet Bill Clinton wished he knew about the Cheney loophole when HE was answering prosecutors' questions.­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 10/10/2009
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Ah, I remember that satisfying sound of Scooter being thrown under the bus...ka-T­hump!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 10/02/2009
- GiveUsFree I'm a Fan of GiveUsFree 25 fans permalink
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Yes, here comes Lying Lizzy! It always amazes me how matter of factly (if this is a word) the Cheney's lie with a straight face and seemingly sound logic. It's truly a talent in this country to be able lie as they do. I am happy they are not teaching sales courses on how to lie to customers. The average consumer wouldn't stand a chance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 10/02/2009

I am a pretty new democrat since having to leave the GOP for obvious reasons, birtherism, bushism, growth of Gulag KGB govt under Bush, but someone help me. I thought Obama was for transparent government, but so far Obama looks more like a republican than democrat. Obama is clamping up on most of his transparency promises, the School of the Americas is still churning out terrorists, Obama is still executing the Drug War with Bushist abandon, I guess only future presidents are allowed to use drugs. How did we elect a friggin Neocon? Better than McCain/Palin by a long shot, but one would have expected Obama to honor some of his promises of less Gulag style of government. Of all people on this earth that deserve to be prosecuted, Cheney is at the very top of the list and Obama is coming to his defense, even as Cheney lies about Obama, is trying to undermine Obama's presidency, and even though Cheney is spreading teabaggery histrionics nearly as fast as Limbaugh. Is Obama really a neocon plant?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 AM on 10/02/2009
- GiveUsFree I'm a Fan of GiveUsFree 25 fans permalink
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Thank you for having the courage to change. We have to hold President Obama accountable just as we would any other President. He does not get a pass, because he is the first African American to become President. I think people assume he can relate more, because of his upbringing and duality. However; things are not always black and white. Presidential power once obtained is often held on to by the predecessors. President Obama has reversed some of Bush's policies, but he can not let the balance of power be eroded. If everything he discusses with his advisers can be released at will, then his administration won't be successful.

In this case, I think the administration is wrong and the judge is right. This investigation has concluded. It's public record. Those things that impact national security or would degrade the President's ability to seek advice and counsel, can be redacted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 10/02/2009
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I agree about waiting for more from Obama, and wanting to see Cheney prosecuted. My best positive take on the approach being taken by Obama is to force the action of the courts and congress to legally and permanently define the limits of executive reach. If he unilaterally conceded key issues, a future administration could justify unilaterally re-instituting them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 10/02/2009
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We miss Tim Russert... just sayin'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 AM on 10/02/2009
- afgail I'm a Fan of afgail 59 fans permalink

If the interview implicated Cheney he would have been charged. What it does is expose Cheney throwing Libby under the bus to save his own skin. You don't think Cheney would tell the truth even under oath do you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 10/02/2009
- floridafun I'm a Fan of floridafun 41 fans permalink
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exactly

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 10/02/2009
- foxisms I'm a Fan of foxisms 105 fans permalink
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"Release the interwiew". Well, that's a start. Years late and a trillion dollars short. But it's a start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 10/02/2009
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man don,t I know it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 AM on 10/02/2009
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if roman Polanski wears an orange jumpsuit, CHENEY must, also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 10/01/2009
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OMG . . . . Satan really is walking and talking among us!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 10/01/2009
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Let the games begin!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 10/01/2009
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The worst thing about this is, it will trigger another round of Liz Cheney appearances and even though I don't watch TV just seeing it all referred to on these blogs is enough to make me shudder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 10/01/2009
- xansam I'm a Fan of xansam 21 fans permalink

you are right, but it is excellent comic relief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 AM on 10/02/2009
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 275 fans permalink
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FBI interviews are secret to protect not only the person interviewed but also sensitive information he may provide about others.

This judge has not issued a wise ruling, IMO. He has made the future work of the FBI more difficult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 10/01/2009
- CATNIP1 I'm a Fan of CATNIP1 2 fans permalink

The FBI is NOT a secret organization. They are a Federal bureau that works for us. Their job is to to investigate wrong doing even if it goes all the way to the top of the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 10/01/2009
- Ifticar2 I'm a Fan of Ifticar2 24 fans permalink
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Not to worry. This judge will be over ruled.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 10/01/2009
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 87 fans permalink

The FBI is not the East German Stasi.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 10/01/2009
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He already outed a CIA agent. And you are worried about sensitive information? Please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 10/01/2009
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A covert agent who was tracking WM D was outed by high elected officials in our government

I would call that very sensitive information

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 10/02/2009
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US Supreme Court decided that President Nixon's secret White House tape recordings with his staff in 1974 were relevant to the Justice Department investigation of the Watergate domestic burglary scandal.

Valerie Plame was a CIA secret agent working at a senior level on WMD in Iran in 2003.

Who exposed her highly classified CIA mission to the media and destroyed her CIA career?

And why?

If you don't know by now, you should start doing your own research.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 10/01/2009
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 275 fans permalink
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Okay, I'll bite. Who exposed her to the media, and why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 10/01/2009
- Ifticar2 I'm a Fan of Ifticar2 24 fans permalink
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It has long been known that the person who exposed Plame was Richard Armitage. Patrick Fitzgerald knew this even before he started his witch hunt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 10/01/2009
- CATNIP1 I'm a Fan of CATNIP1 2 fans permalink

Patrick Fitzgerald could get no corporation from the White House on this issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 10/01/2009
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The outing was ordered by Cheney. Ask Schooter Libby.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 10/01/2009

Cheney did because he wanted to tie our hands behind our backs vis-a-vis Iran so that we'd be in no position except that of war-making when it was revealed that Iran did have access to nukes. Cheney would blow up the world for a slight chance of greater profits for his corpse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 10/10/2009
- anitaj I'm a Fan of anitaj 8 fans permalink

Glad to hear that at least part of the information will be released ... it is a start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 10/01/2009
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And by all means lets keep this stuff secret so it will not be laughed at on the comedy shows. There's only one reason to keep it secret. People lied and crimes were committed. Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 10/01/2009
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