Jones V. McChrystal: Obama Security Adviser Downplays Insurgency Fears

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First Posted: 10- 4-09 12:18 PM   |   Updated: 10- 5-09 10:45 AM

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WASHINGTON -- Afghanistan is not in imminent danger of falling to the Taliban, President Barack Obama's national security adviser said Sunday as he downplayed worries that the insurgency could set up a renewed sanctuary for al-Qaida.

Retired Gen. James Jones also emphasized Pakistan's campaign against insurgents in safe havens along the border, suggesting that those efforts could provide a key shift in the war.

At the same time, Jones said the government of Afghan President Hamid Karzai must improve and give hope to the people of Afghanistan. He added that he believes the government has a chance to succeed, with the aid of a strong effort by the U.S. to train the Afghan army and police.

"I don't foresee the return of the Taliban. Afghanistan is not in imminent danger of falling," Jones said.

"The al-Qaida presence is very diminished," he said. "The maximum estimate is less than 100 operating in the country, no bases, no ability to launch attacks on either us or our allies."

Jones also responded to a shot from Sen. John McCain, who said last week that the national security adviser didn't "want to alienate the left base of the Democrat Party."

"Sen. McCain knows me very well," Jones told CNN. "I worked for Senator McCain when he was a captain. I've known him for many, many years. And he knows that I don't play politics with national -- I don't play politics. And I certainly don't play it with national security. And neither does anyone else I know. The lives of our young men and women are on the line. The strategy does not belong to any political party and I can assure you that the President of the United States is not playing to any political base. And I take exception to that remark."

Jones' view differs from that of the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan. Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal has called for an infusion of thousands more U.S. troops, saying that insurgents are gaining strength in Afghanistan and that the U.S. is in danger of failing if more forces are not sent to the fight.

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Underscoring those concerns was a deadly battle Sunday near the Pakistan border, where several hundred militant fighters streamed from an Afghan village and a mosque and attacked a pair of remote outposts. Eight U.S. soldiers were killed and as many as seven Afghan forces in one of the fiercest battles of the eight-year war.

However, Jones said the Pakistani government and army have done much better in recent months to root out militants in the mountainous border region.

"We hope that will lead to a campaign against all insurgents on that side of the border, and if that happens, that's a strategic shift that will spill over into Afghanistan," he said.

On the Afghan side, Jones said the Karzai government must achieve progress on economic development and must show it can govern without corruption and follow the rule of law.

Obama is considering a range of ideas for changing course in Afghanistan, including pulling back, staying put and sending more troops to fight the insurgency.

Jones said Obama has now received McChrystal's request for additional troops, and the force numbers will be part of a larger discussion that will include efforts to beef up the size and training of the Afghan army and police, along with economic development and governance improvements in Afghanistan.

"It would be, I think, unfortunate if we let the discussion just be about troop strength. There is a minimum level that you have to have, but there's, unfortunately, no ceiling to it," he said.


Jones spoke on CNN's "State of the Union" and CBS' "Face the Nation."


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who is this guy and why is he saying Afghanistan is not in danger of the Taliban taking over? Everyone knows it's going to be taken over if we don't do anything it's just a matter of deciding if it's worth fighting for.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 10/05/2009
- 57eddie67 I'm a Fan of 57eddie67 8 fans permalink

McCain was alright with Palin a heartbeat away from the Oval Office,nothing he says can be taken seriously.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 10/05/2009

Amen.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 10/05/2009

It seems to me that Patraeus and McChrystal are the ones playing politics. They should be having their discussions behind closed doors instead of doing an end run around their CIC and trying to lobby the warmongers in our congress to provide more troops before all the strategy is hammered out.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 10/05/2009
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"And he knows that I don't play politics with national -- I don't play politics."
McCain must've gotten you confused with the previous administration.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 10/05/2009
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I guess if you criticize McCain, your commens will get moderated out.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 10/05/2009
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comments, corrected

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 10/05/2009
- 4real I'm a Fan of 4real 29 fans permalink
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I hope that was a misprint but are we fighting against less than 100 AlQaida in Afganistan? Why would we need thousands more troops to fight against 100 people? Seriously? I would like to know how many AlQaida forces we are fighting in all and why it is taking so long for us to defeat them. It's been what 7 years now?

And Mccain would of started wa rs with I ran, R ussia, and NK if he had his way. Last I heard he lost the election.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 10/05/2009

Heaven forbid there should be 200 Al Qaida instead of 100!

As for McCain I would not be surprised to learn he wants to attack Antarctica.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 10/05/2009
- amdezurik I'm a Fan of amdezurik 35 fans permalink

Bomb,bomb,bomb penguins...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 10/05/2009
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that's why he picked palin.... all that experience shooting at polar bears.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 10/05/2009
- MESGAIN26 I'm a Fan of MESGAIN26 11 fans permalink

did mcain give up his secret how to catch osama binladen yet (sarcasm )

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 10/05/2009
- vesaversa1 I'm a Fan of vesaversa1 12 fans permalink
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I agree with Jones that we shouldn't be playing politics with the lives of our young men and women on the front lines , McCain should have know better.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 10/05/2009
- MaryK2924 I'm a Fan of MaryK2924 6 fans permalink

He does know better, but sometimes ignorance runs amok.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 10/05/2009
- bedfordny I'm a Fan of bedfordny 127 fans permalink

Does McCain realize he lost the election last November?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 10/05/2009
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I'm still waiting for him to tell us his sure-fire plan to capture OBL he spoke so loudly about during the election.

I guess since he lost he's decided to just switch sides once and for all.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 10/05/2009
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

Honestly, I don't think he does. But we saw plenty of signs back than that his memory was going, such as not knowing how many houses he owned.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 10/05/2009
- bedfordny I'm a Fan of bedfordny 127 fans permalink

And picking Palin as VP and one old heartbeat away from the Presidency more than proved his overall incompetency.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 10/05/2009

President General Eisenhower warned us!

Did he not?

Did we listen?

WoW!

What a pattern!

The world warned us not to invade Iraq- What did we do?

GOP renamed French Fries and invaded Iraq.

WSJ: DUMB it DOWN Mr. President-

WSJ advised President Obama to DUMB DOWN!

We were warned:

Australians warned us not to allow Rupert Murdoch to infiltrate our free press standards

England warned us not to allow Rupert Murdoch to infiltrate our free press standards

Sir Richard Branson said something like "if we let him, Murdock will destroy democracy".

We ignored Australia and England- look at the dumb down we got!

WSJ- Dumb it Down President!

Wall Street Journal- Once the most trustworthy news in the WORLD

Pitiful and shameful

WSJ: Dumb it Down Mr. President!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 10/05/2009
- digdeeper I'm a Fan of digdeeper 18 fans permalink

Agree totally especially Murdock the "murderer" of democracy

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 10/05/2009
- PWM I'm a Fan of PWM 249 fans permalink
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Reagan allowed Murdoch to become naturalized although the man did not meet the requirements and did not live in the US. In exchange for getting citizenship without going through the process, Murdoch rewarded the GOP to this day by dividing this nation and trying to destroy it - it would make good press if he could bring the US down from a superpower into a nation on the level of Russia.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 10/05/2009
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Good smack down, Gen. Jones.

Now try to work with Joe Biden and bring our kids home. They are GD tired and their families hurting and this nation has no more treasury to be spent on these wars.

Anyone who believes that a big military foot print will deter the murderers of the mountain goat, bin Laden, is seriously delusional. McCane and his merry band of war cheerleaders gives not a sh..it how much money we have to print to keep the war machine happy,...... just that we don't have enough for a good public run option in health reform.....The whole Republican party of NO is delusional and....

they got a good smack down today from Krugman.....13 year old brats ? Yessiree.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 10/05/2009
- MJHammonds I'm a Fan of MJHammonds 105 fans permalink
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Amen- let's bring them home.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 10/05/2009
- GRIMKAG I'm a Fan of GRIMKAG 7 fans permalink

Every time a Republican refers to the "Democrat Party" I tune them out.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 10/05/2009
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Should we start calling them the Republic Party? And when they call us libs, I call them cons. As in convicts.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 10/05/2009
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I call them what they are neoconservatives. They are pretend conservatives but really want to redo society from top to bottom.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 10/05/2009
- amdezurik I'm a Fan of amdezurik 35 fans permalink

I just call them crapublicant's

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 10/05/2009
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Give 'em hell General!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 10/05/2009

1. The 8 year war. The war in Europe was from June, 1944 to May, 1945. And George got us into this quagmire.
2. McCrystal needs to be told to shut up if he hasn't already been told that.
3. McCain needs to be seen as an older man with too many head traumas. Thank him for his service often, but ignore him.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 10/05/2009
- annie g I'm a Fan of annie g 28 fans permalink

A comment I heard on C-Span----If we had had the draft prior to going into Iraq, the invasion would never have happened.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 10/05/2009
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Co-sign.

Plus there would have been no need for the Halliburton/KBR no-bid contracts and no need for the Toilet Water Security forces with a draft in place. There would have been better coverage by the military.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 10/05/2009
- Mahi Joe I'm a Fan of Mahi Joe 48 fans permalink

Bush and Cheney knew that if a draft was called for there would be huge protests. So, instead they subcontracted Blackwater, Xe (whatever they call themselves today) to fill in the numbers they thought necessary to contain the conflict. These subcontractors doing the same job as our military were paid in the six figure range (far greater than a military rate), tax exempt for most of their salary and did not have to abide by any law, not even the military code of justice.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 10/05/2009
- Solja I'm a Fan of Solja 112 fans permalink
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There's a critical debate going on right now about our role in Afghanistan. The administration and Congress need to know that regular Americans are paying close attention and that we want a clear military exit strategy.

That's why I signed a petition urging the President and Congress to lay out a plan with a military exit strategy. Will you join me at the link below?

http://pol.moveon.org/afghan_exit/?r_by=17429-9098714-zq5OBux&rc=comment_paste

Thanks!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 AM on 10/05/2009
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