Banks Denying VA-Backed Mortgages

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The Huffington Post   |  Julian Hattem
First Posted: 10- 5-09 03:24 PM   |   Updated: 10- 5-09 05:21 PM

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Air Force Staff Sgt. Jason Goul is one of many veterans and soldiers trying to buy foreclosed homes for their families. The soldier, his two young children and his wife, Judith, looked for a place around the town of Fairfield in northern California, and placed a couple of bids using a mortgage backed by the Veterans Affairs Department. The plan was to get a home started before he was deployed to the Middle East in August. Unfortunately, though, their offers were repeatedly denied by banks which preferred to sell houses to investors who could pay in cash -- even if the bid was lower, reports Carolyn Said of the San Francisco Chronicle. Sgt Goul has since been shipped overseas and the couple still don't have a home of their own.

In a growing trend, banks are refusing to honor VA-backed loan agreements -- which do not require a down payment and are more amenable to customers with bad credit -- preferring instead to sell foreclosed homes for less money, but quick and immediate cash.

Banks and VA representatives blame the high standards that houses must meet to qualify for VA-backed loans: home repairs must be completed before escrow closes, the escrow period is longer and if escrow does not close the buyer's fees are repaid. Other loans have no such requirements and make it easier to sell damaged and structurally insecure homes.

"Lenders know the requirements for VA and FHA [Federal Housing Administration] loans, and they know whether a property is in good repair or disrepair," said Mark Bologna, director of loan guaranty service for the VA in Washington, D.C. "If they have a property they believe won't meet the minimum property requirements, they will factor that in. They know they'll either have to cover those costs (of repair) or the sale will fall through unless the home buyers can cover those costs out of pocket."

Despite banks' concerns, however, VA-backed mortgages actually have a lower failure rate than subprime, FHA-insured, or even prime loans; only about four percent of VA loans go into default, compared to 29, seven, and five percent for the other loans, respectively. Jessica Donigan, a realtor at Gary Kent Homes in La Jolla, CA, has shown veterans homes that they were eventually denied. "It's very frustrating and disheartening," she said. "I've heard a lot of vets say they feel they're being discriminated against, that it's not fair."

The resistance to sell homes to veterans using VA mortgages comes during a year when demands for such loans is skyrocketing and the government, in the form of the VA, is urging home buyers back into the market, reports Roger Showley of the San Diego Union-Tribune. In San Diego, for instance, VA-insured loans are up almost 290 percent in the last 12 months.

The Veterans Affairs Department's loans, introduced after World War II but revamped with a new limit of $593,750, are attractive to veterans looking to buy a first home and retread the path of earlier generations of former soldiers who returned from war and invested in their home economy.

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A new Shared Work trend is making its way across Washington state, as noted by Seattle radio station KPLU. A number of companies are signing up for the program, in which all workers sacrifice and cut back on hours but no one gets laid off and everyone keeps their benefits. Workers demonstrate solidarity and companies see benefits as well:

Last year, The Gear Works laid off eight people before they heard about the possibility of shared work from one of their vendors who had done it too. Company President Sterling Ramberg says they've been in survival mode. But, as he explained at a news conference during their morning coffee break, cutting trained workers isn't smart.


"The investment that we put into the employees over the years - you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars go into training just one employee - is enormous."

Seventeen states offer such a program, according to Victoria Knight of the Wall Street Journal, and enrollment is up nationwide. Employers like it because it keeps them well-stocked with experienced workers when the economy turns around, and employees are glad to keep their job and full benefits even if it means a slight pay cut.

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Guillermo Barrera, 36, worked as a cook at a late-night diner in Brooklyn, New York, when he was fired for going to the hospital in the middle of a shift, reports Michael Saul of the New York Daily News. Now Barrera is joining a rally organized by Make the Road New York to demand paid sick leave for all employees across the city. Andrew Friedman, co-executive director of Make the Road New York, is planning on suing Barrera's former boss and making sure that his story never happens again. "There is a high cost of not having paid sick days, and that cost is borne by hundreds of thousands of workers like Guillermo who are forced to make a fundamentally unfair choice between their health and their ability to pay rent or feed their families," he said.



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- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

Yes, but when they send the rejection letters, they include a small American flag decal in the corner and a small yellow ribbon.

For our brave servicemen and women risking their lives in pointless adventures in Iraqistan, it's small touches like this that show just how much we value them and their sacrifices.

It gives a whole new meaning to "Support the Troops".

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 10/07/2009

Everything but the little people have become too big to fail.

Everyday we pay the consequences of Reaganomics and neoconservative economics

good articles; http://iamned2.blogspot.com

80's: Arthur Laffer, MIlton Freidman, Greenspan, Alexander M. Haig, Jr, Donald T. Regan, James A. Baker 3rd,
Later: Robert Rubin, Bernanke, Paulson

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 10/07/2009
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I am a vet and my husband will retire from the Army in about 4 years. We were planning on using our (or one of our) VA loans to buy a house. I thought that the VA guaranteed the loan? If so, then how can the bank deny it?

I read the article and everything, but I am still confused about house buying. And it does sound like discrimination. Makes me angry....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 10/07/2009
- rbchilds I'm a Fan of rbchilds 17 fans permalink
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Basically the banks and mortgage companies don't want to go through the certification process that is a requirement of a VA loan. I don't buy the argument that it cost them additional monies, as Bill Clinton changed the VA Loan process and shoveled more of the cost onto the Vet.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 10/07/2009
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Thanks for the reply....

I still don't see how they can deny the loan, though. Seems discriminatory to me. Couldn't someone argue that under the Equal Housing Act that this is discriminating against someone who has veteran, (or in this case) military status?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 10/07/2009
- camanokat I'm a Fan of camanokat 10 fans permalink
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The way I read the article, the soldier was trying to buy a foreclosed house. VA loans take time. A cash buyer/investor has the money ready immediately. The bank, who owns the home, wants the money now rather than waiting for the VA loan to close.

Banks and mortgage companies who do VA loans have no control over the seller's wish to make a fast buck.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 10/07/2009
- John51 I'm a Fan of John51 10 fans permalink

Actually the VA only guarantees a very small amount of the loan in an attempt to put the veteran's purchase on a more equal footing with a buyer who has put 10% or 20% cash down. There has always been a reluctance to fund VA Loans, so much so, that I have never used my VA Home Loan Benefits despite having bought at least 8 homes since the completion of my service almost 40 years ago. This is not a new problem; mortgage brokers have always steered veteran away from a VA Loan.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 10/08/2009
- rbchilds I'm a Fan of rbchilds 17 fans permalink
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This is about as low as any bank can go. I propose a new law that would require the CEO's of banks that refuse a VA loan, to a qualified applicant, be sent to the front lines in Afghanistan.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 10/07/2009
- John51 I'm a Fan of John51 10 fans permalink

Boy, that would get us a quick victory!!!! lol

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 10/08/2009
- John51 I'm a Fan of John51 10 fans permalink

Here's a thought, I think we should just put them on the front lines of the Basic Training Qualifying Range instead; live targets would be better training than stationary ones, fewer Bankers will result in fewer Lawyers, and we'd all benefit from the Tax Savings. It'd be a win, win, win.....lo­l

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 10/08/2009
- rbchilds I'm a Fan of rbchilds 17 fans permalink
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I sort of had a theory along those lines concerning prisons. Since there is overcrowding, I proposed fencing a large part of the Mojave Desert, put Basic Grunts and Solders in towers. Tell the prisoners you cross the fence, they have live target practice.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 10/11/2009
- pokethis I'm a Fan of pokethis 3 fans permalink

"Banks and VA representatives blame the high standards that houses must meet to qualify for VA-backed loans: home repairs must be completed before escrow closes, the escrow period is longer and if escrow does not close the buyer's fees are repaid. Other loans have no such requirements and make it easier to sell damaged and structurally insecure homes. "

Well, a loan that protects the consumer is shunned by banks. Huh, who would have thunk it!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 10/06/2009
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There are always those who will tell us why something won't work. It is usually the most popular approach.

Sometimes we should just do something because it is right, not because it's easy or isn't hard in some way. Sometimes we should find ways to make it work.

I'm sure the excuses will console those who have given up so much. We supply the bankers with their golden parachutes because they have risked so much as opposed to the military that actually knows what a parachute is used for and have risked everything. "Silk" even has completely different meanings in both worlds. And, we value which? We dishonor those who protect and defend us so we can be ripped off at home and have our trust destroyed in our own living rooms.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 10/06/2009

We should make every effort possible to help our people in uniform buy homes. I have often thought that military bases should have been planned communities for our retired/disabled veterans instead of selling off the land to make more shopping areas or to convert them into golf courses. Why did we not do that? We want our troops to protect our way of life and when they come home we give them zilch?? We can do better than that! Write to your senator and congressperson!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 10/06/2009
- grf67 I'm a Fan of grf67 36 fans permalink

It is time that the banks who will not honor VA loans are left to fail. Following that, the bankmanagers should be charged with mismanagement in civil court and held accountable for the bank failure. The branches of the federal government must talk to each other and act for the common good.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 10/06/2009
- iridium53 I'm a Fan of iridium53 56 fans permalink

Well that's just outstanding.

Obama commits even more of our military to Afghanistan.
Casey announces that the one-year "guaranteed" break in between deployments is no longer guaranteed.

American Taxpayers, including the military are burdened with increased national debt for bailing out the banks.

But, the banks can't see fit to make VA loans.

But, they can pay for their bonuses, right?

Obama's team is just doing an outstanding job - for the bankers.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 10/06/2009

I predict there will be no reform or change and Obammi will discourage his followers, hence losing 2012. Dems will also lose a lot of seats in the house in 2010.

good articles; http://iamned2.blogspot.com

Obama= fail

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 10/06/2009
- austinro I'm a Fan of austinro 2 fans permalink

I have no problem cutting veterans a deal on anything. They put their life on the line for us and we should gladly subsidize their efforts here at home. Military personel are not idiots and aren't helpless either so giving them a program for mortgages that treats them as such really isn't much of a thank you from us is it. Why can't we just say that those returning after a set amount of service will be subsidized a certain amount on whatever mortgage they choose. If soldiers returning want a 200,000 dollar home and have the cash to put down for a jumbo mortgage, then they can use our subsidy to help with a down payment. If they want to buy a 50,000 dollar home with a large down payment and short length mortgage, then we will help subsidize that. Government backed loans got us into this mess and forcing private sector business to sell houses to folks with govt backed loans isn't the answer.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 10/06/2009
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 147 fans permalink

With all the power we had over the banks just this past April as they were on their knees in the "crisis," you'd think that Obama or Congress could have squeezed even a minor concession from them re these loans. But no....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 10/06/2009
- Artos I'm a Fan of Artos 83 fans permalink

I bought my home with a V.A. Backed loan about 5 years ago. The loan ended up in the hands of Countrywide, and is now owned by Bank of America. Since Bank of America got hold of it they have been sending me a constant stream of letters asking me if I want to refinance my loan. I read this article and it occurred to me that perhaps this might be a trick on BofAs part to get me into the Refi process and then tell me that this time around I could only do it without the V.A. loan backing. It would be just like one of their underhanded schemes. Needless to say i never took them up on it, My cynical side always questions the motives of these untrustworthy Corporations.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 10/06/2009
- Sam1234567 I'm a Fan of Sam1234567 6 fans permalink

VA allows you to refi an existing loan, just not purchase a new one after your 1 time use.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 10/06/2009
- Artos I'm a Fan of Artos 83 fans permalink

Sure and i know that the V.A. allows it, but given what the Article says , does that mean that the Banks have to honor it this time around. If I applied to refi and got deep into the process then the banks tell me at the last minute that they won't do it with the V.A. this time around, what then. Will that negate the whole deal or am I going to get embroiled in a legal contest with the Bank, that is the question.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 10/06/2009
- camanokat I'm a Fan of camanokat 10 fans permalink
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If they are offering a VA streamline with a lowered interest rate, you might at least want to look at it and see if you save any money. There are still some closing costs, and that is how BoA makes its cut.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 10/07/2009
- StJames I'm a Fan of StJames 78 fans permalink
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Totally outrageous, but just one more indication of just how stupid and/or corrupt our congress is. All that money to the banks and no provisions for the people included. Amazing.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 10/06/2009
- Sam1234567 I'm a Fan of Sam1234567 6 fans permalink

"Lenders know the requirements for VA and FHA [Federal Housing Administration] loans, and they know whether a property is in good repair or disrepair," said Mark Bologna, director of loan guaranty service for the VA in Washington, D.C. "If they have a property they believe won't meet the minimum property requirements, they will factor that in. They know they'll either have to cover those costs (of repair) or the sale will fall through unless the home buyers can cover those costs out of pocket."

Gee the banks don't want to pay to fix up a house at their own expense, and rather take a lower offer to save themselves money....T­otally outrageous to do cost savings business.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 10/06/2009
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Teaser: “Jessica Donigan, a realtor at Gary Kent Homes in La Jolla, CA, has shown veterans homes that they were eventually denied.”

FireCat: Isn’t La Jolla home to republican bazillionaires? Of course they’re denied. See if this will play in Peoria.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 10/06/2009
- xmlman I'm a Fan of xmlman 3 fans permalink

That's a misconception. Not all of La Jolla is high dollar mansions. There are plenty of middle class homes in La Jolla

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 10/06/2009
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The housing crisis has led to a classic "Rich get richer, and the poor (or middle class) get poorer" situation. This is NOT what TARP was meant to be -- those funds are being used to defray the losses that the banks choose to take on these properties. And the American taxpayer, including these Veterans who were denied the ability to purchase those properties, get to foot the bill. Again.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 10/06/2009
- Sam1234567 I'm a Fan of Sam1234567 6 fans permalink

This has nothing to do with TARP. It has to do with VA regulations to purchase a home, and the homes these people are looking at do not meet them. The bank will not cover the cost to put them in it. Simple business, banks are out make money...no­vel idea I know.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 10/06/2009
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