Blocked New York Philharmonic Trip To Cuba A Reminder That Relations Still Frosty (VIDEO)

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First Posted: 10- 5-09 01:42 PM   |   Updated: 10- 5-09 02:12 PM

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Nick Miroff

HAVANA, Cuba -- Despite a recent thawing of relations between the U.S. and Cuba, the New York Philharmonic was reminded last week that it's still easier for an American orchestra to play in nuclear-armed North Korea than in the long-estranged Caribbean island next door.

The Philharmonic announced Friday it had postponed a historic trip to Havana planned for later this month, after U.S. Treasury Department officials denied travel permission to the orchestra patrons who were financially supporting the performances. Though U.S. trade sanctions against Cuba generally prohibit Americans from traveling there, U.S. regulators had granted permission to musicians and orchestra staff, but they wouldn't allow the orchestra's patrons to go.

It would have been the most high-profile American cultural event in Cuba in a half-century. But without supporters, who were to cover the roughly $10,000 in travel costs per musician, "the trip is not possible," orchestra spokesman Eric Latzky said in a statement.

The orchestra's would-be Cuban hosts saw a spiteful double standard in this, since the Philharmonic and its patrons were allowed to travel to North Korea last year, and the orchestra's current tour in Asia includes a stop in communist Vietnam later this month.

More broadly, the cancelled performances seemed to undercut the Obama administration's recent support for concerts and cultural events as a path to improved bilateral relations. Was the Obama administration cooling down the musical diplomacy? Or was it simply a bureaucratic matter, and a temporary obstacle?

For Cubans who have a hard time believing a U.S. federal agency would act independently of the White House, the distinction didn't seem to matter. Suddenly, the frustration and bitter rhetoric that characterized U.S.-Cuba relations during the Bush administration were back.

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"This shows that the U.S. government is the only party responsible for the failure of this major cultural project," said Cuban Institute of Music Vice President Alejandro Guma on an official government website, blaming Washington's "irrational" Cuba policy.

"This is a project, by the way, that was not conceived by Cuba, but by the Philharmonic," Guma added, describing efforts and preparations that had been completed in preparation for the performances, which have not been rescheduled. As if to highlight the sense of goodwill that had been thwarted by U.S. regulators, Guma said the performances were to include Cuban compositions, "whose scores were already in the hands of the American musicians."

Cuban officials said the island would remain open to the Philharmonic. But the failure of such a high-profile cultural exchange threw cold water on what had been a period of unusually cordial relations, eased by music, between the U.S. and Cuba. Under the Bush administration, which took a more aggressive stance against the Castro government, travel regulations to Cuba were tightened for Americans, and top Cuban artists, like Grammy-winning jazz icon Chucho Valdes, were routinely denied U.S. visas.

Under a new strategy of "engagement," the Obama administration wants to promote "the free flow of information and interaction between the United States and the Cuban people," according to State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley.

And some very good music has been flowing recently.

With the White House's blessing, Colombian pop icon Juanes headlined a massive "Peace without Borders" concert in Havana's Revolutionary Square that drew up to a million Cuban fans.

It also touched off heated protests and street scuffles in Miami, where Juanes has a home. The artists' supporters squared off against angry critics who symbolically destroyed copies of his CDs and accused him of providing a propaganda boost to Cuba's communist government.

But as an act of cultural diplomacy, the concert seemed to make a difference, especially after Juanes used the open venue to call for a "free Cuba" and "one Cuban family." A poll conducted after the performance and published in the Miami Herald last week found 53 percent of Cuban Americans had a favorable opinion of the show afterwards, compared with 29 percent who expressed a negative view. In contrast, prior to the event, 47 percent of Cuban Americans had been against it, with only 27 percent in support.

Other recent cultural events also seemed to hasten the U.S.-Cuba thaw. For the first time in years, dozens of Cuban artists and intellectuals attended a reception at the residence of the U.S.'s chief diplomat in Cuba, and several prominent artists, such as Buena Vista Social Club star Omara Portuondo and Cuban folksinger Pablo Milanes, have received visas to play in the U.S. after being shut out for years.

As for the Philharmonic trip, Treasury Department officials said the agency does not comment on Cuba travel applications. But the orchestra's directors said they were working with lawmakers to get the necessary permissions for an eventual trip, which could occur as soon as June or July.


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Nick Miroff HAVANA, Cuba -- Despite a recent thawing of relations between the U.S. and Cuba, the New York Philharmonic was reminded last week that it's still easier for an American orchestra to pla...
Nick Miroff HAVANA, Cuba -- Despite a recent thawing of relations between the U.S. and Cuba, the New York Philharmonic was reminded last week that it's still easier for an American orchestra to pla...
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Frosty? This is not a story about the relationship between U.S. and Cuba. It's a story about our failed efforts with Cuba. Cuba was not denying entrance for the Orchestra, the U.S. was denying travel to U.S. citizens. The embargo has not met its goals in 50 years. Let's keep trying the same thing for another 50 and hope for different results. What do they call that strategy? http://talkingcuba.wordpress.com/

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 10/08/2009
- LovingHope I'm a Fan of LovingHope 14 fans permalink
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We are so petty! All I can say, is that is our loss. We can reach out to the Cubans and embrace them and interact with them and even learn from them, or we can continue this ridiculous embargo that only hurts the citizens of Cuba. Enough is enough. Why can't we all just get along? It sucks being an empire.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 10/07/2009

Can you say cruel and stupid. Thanks a lot O'Bushbama.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 10/06/2009
- SangZe I'm a Fan of SangZe 34 fans permalink

Hooray for Obama! Down with culture!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 10/06/2009
- digdeeper I'm a Fan of digdeeper 18 fans permalink

This is crazy.
Americans have been finding ways to visit cuba for years. Other countries around the world are happy for their people to visit Cuba. This whole nonsense is a "Washington" thing to appease various factions in and around Washington.
I thought Obama was going to reach out to countries and certainly they don't come easier than Cuba.
Don't you just give up on politicians

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 10/06/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 62 fans permalink
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South Florida-mucho votos

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 10/06/2009
- Academic I'm a Fan of Academic 239 fans permalink

When you sup with the Devil you begin to act and even look like him. What we have here is more of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney by a weak, ineffectual president doing his best to placate the US rightwing and neo-cons who he knows hates his guts but who despite winning a landslide majority in the presidential election is nevertheless petrified of them and even what they might say.

In psychological terms reminiscent of a mentally insecure and unstable adolescent clinging tenaciously to the parents or guardians who demean and even abuse them but does so nevertheless because their mind has been fashioned in such a construct that they can't or won’t summon up the resolve to challenge what their perverse "comfort zone”, regardless of how damaging this might be, dictates.

Poor Barack - the tortured soul besieged by his pervasive demons.

Professor Dr. Stanley Collymore.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 AM on 10/06/2009
- hidenout I'm a Fan of hidenout 8 fans permalink

No, he is placating the democrats, not the conservatives. South Florida is nothing but a democratic haven, and he doesn't want to irritate them.

Obama wanted the power of the presidency. He has it. He has both Houses to boot. To argue that he is afraid of the "out of power" minority is ridiculous. Why the would a man or woman in his position be afraid to wield the hammer? I don't have an answer for you, but it does make one wonder. He better be careful though, if he waits too long to implement his vision of "Change", a revolt within his own party may make his ideas moot. Unless he is just a typical politician, say anything to get elected, then screw around for 4 years.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 10/06/2009

Obama need fear no man. He is save and secure doing the bidding of the Aristocracy.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 10/06/2009
- pov I'm a Fan of pov 15 fans permalink

So now the big headed Obama Messiah wants to dictate where artists should or should not perform, why that attitude is one that is more dictatorial than anything Fidel Castro could imagine. Pity this poor President his lack of and grasp of culture, the only culture he is aware of is one of corruption.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 AM on 10/06/2009
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Bush's third term continues.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 AM on 10/06/2009
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 60 fans permalink

it does sound like it Smoldering Ruin . . . totally idiotic . . . and disgusting

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 AM on 10/06/2009
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 60 fans permalink

unfortunately that is what is sounds like . . . it doesn't make any sense at all . . . it's just plain stupid

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 10/06/2009
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For the sake of transparency, can someone in the State Department tell us who blocked the visit? Or doesn't the public have the right to know? I'm waiting.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 10/06/2009
- KIVPossum I'm a Fan of KIVPossum 51 fans permalink
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The visit was blocked by the patrons who refused to give financial support unless they could go. Orchestra and support was given permission.

Though, putting aside that it costs 10 grand to send one musician, and that a patron feels the need to travel with the orchestra, our Cuba policy is stupid.

We are willing to trade and allow travel to other communist countries, but not Cuba because they embarrassed us 50 years ago. Talk about holding a grudge.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 AM on 10/06/2009
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 60 fans permalink

good question. . .doubt we will get an answer

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 10/06/2009
- Ergon I'm a Fan of Ergon 76 fans permalink
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You might find a few Miami Cuban exiles in charge there.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 10/06/2009
- duxguts I'm a Fan of duxguts 22 fans permalink
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The people from the New York Philharmonic probably only wanted to go to Cuba to get some free health care. Mr. President is this more of the sort of change you spoke about during your campaign?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 10/05/2009
- fred53 I'm a Fan of fred53 5 fans permalink

The US government seems to be working overtime to become irrelevant. There are no restrictions on traveling to Cuba for Americans, only spending money there. It's the "trading" with the enemy act. So simple solution. Make a contribution to a Canadian shell spun up as a charity. That charity decides to make a charitable contribution in Canadian dollars on the orchestras behalf to sponsor the trip. Well Gee, all of a sudden they aren't trading with the enemy are they. There are direct flights from Toronto and Montreal pretty much every day to Havana. There is no exit control on US northern road borders. They won't even know you've gone. Have a nice trip... The Cuban people are absolutely wonderful. And as an added bonus you'll see how a REAL health care system works....Maybe THAT's the part Barry and his crew don't want you to see...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 10/05/2009
- up420oz I'm a Fan of up420oz 23 fans permalink
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How about this selfish POV?

As long as the US maitains a "for profit" health care system, Canada maitains a competive advantage over the US.
As long as the US maitains hostile relations with several Central, South American, Carribian countries, Canada will maitain perfered trading status with them.

If Americia ever got out from under republican / conservative dogma, Canada will be screwed.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 10/06/2009
- Tackora I'm a Fan of Tackora 8 fans permalink

Dimwitted -- Now you can belive it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 10/05/2009
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 317 fans permalink
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This is incredibly short sighted. I expected this kind of thing from a Bush Administration, not an Obama one. When are these people going to realize that our system of government is superior to theirs and the more they are exposed to it, the more they will have a restive population on their hands. Look at the example of Eastern Europe and the USSR.

It just goes to show what happens when vindictiveness enters into politics. We're still getting over the Bay of _Pigs fiasco. That was almost 50 years ago, when are we going to get over it?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 10/05/2009
- D0gb3rt I'm a Fan of D0gb3rt 2 fans permalink

Perhaps we should convert them to Christianity when we're done converting their government for them?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 10/06/2009
- hidenout I'm a Fan of hidenout 8 fans permalink

60%+ of the Cuban population is Catholic. No conversion needed......

Ever been to Cuba? I went about 8 years ago, and Fidel has ruined it. Filth everywhere, no jobs, and the distaste the people have for their government mirrors many who post here. Only they are petrified to voice their opinion for fear of harassment or arrest. From what I witnessed, communism under Fidel has simply produced a very small group of wealthy individuals (the connected and Fidel's friends) and the people who barely make ends meet. What's so great about free health care if you have no hope for economic improvement?

However, the people were beautiful, educated for the most part, and very friendly. They are aware of the differences 90 miles away, and abhor Fidel for the brainwashing of a generation of their brothers and sisters.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 10/06/2009
- Frenbar I'm a Fan of Frenbar 24 fans permalink
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This is really change we can believe in.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 10/05/2009
- GRIMKAG I'm a Fan of GRIMKAG 7 fans permalink

Whether she is involved or not, putting Clinton in the cabinet was a mistake...­especially as head of the State Department.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 10/05/2009
- duxguts I'm a Fan of duxguts 22 fans permalink
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I don't think Hillary Clinton had anything to do with this. In fact it looks like she has nothing to do with anything.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 10/05/2009
- E-MU I'm a Fan of E-MU 5 fans permalink

Not so, I saw her read answers on Jeopardy last night. And she did very well, thank you very much!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 10/06/2009
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