Pot Legalization Gains Momentum In California

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MARCUS WOHLSEN | 10/ 7/09 09:49 PM | AP

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SAN FRANCISCO — Marijuana advocates are gathering signatures to get as many as three pot-legalization measures on the ballot in 2010 in California, setting up what could be a groundbreaking clash with the federal government over U.S. drug policy.

At least one poll shows voters would support lifting the pot prohibition, which would make the state of more than 38 million the first in the nation to legalize marijuana.

Such action would also send the state into a headlong conflict with the U.S. government while raising questions about how federal law enforcement could enforce its drug laws in the face of a massive government-sanctioned pot industry.

The state already has a thriving marijuana trade, thanks to a first-of-its-kind 1996 ballot measure that allowed people to smoke pot for medical purposes. But full legalization could turn medical marijuana dispensaries into all-purpose pot stores, and the open sale of joints could become commonplace on mom-and-pop liquor store counters in liberal locales like Oakland and Santa Cruz.

Under federal law, marijuana is illegal, period. After overseeing a series of raids that destroyed more than 300,000 marijuana plants in California's Sierra Nevada foothills this summer, federal drug czar Gil Kerlikowske proclaimed, "Legalization is not in the president's vocabulary, and it's not in mine."

The U.S. Supreme Court also has ruled that federal law enforcement agents have the right to crack down even on marijuana users and distributors who are in compliance with California's medical marijuana law.

But some legal scholars and policy analysts say the government will not be able to require California to help in enforcing the federal marijuana ban if the state legalizes the drug.

Without assistance from the state's legions of narcotics officers, they say, federal agents could do little to curb marijuana in California.

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"Even though that federal ban is still in place and the federal government can enforce it, it doesn't mean the states have to follow suit," said Robert Mikos, a Vanderbilt University law professor who recently published a paper about the issue.

Nothing can stop federal anti-drug agents from making marijuana arrests, even if Californians legalize pot, he said. However, the U.S. government cannot pass a law requiring local and state police, sheriff's departments or state narcotics enforcers to help.

That is significant, because nearly all arrests for marijuana crimes are made at the state level. Of more than 847,000 marijuana-related arrests in 2008, for example, just over 6,300 suspects were booked by federal law enforcement, or fewer than 1 percent.

State marijuana bans have allowed the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration to focus on big cases, said Rosalie Pacula, director of drug policy research at the Rand Corp.

"It's only something the feds are going to be concerned about if you're growing tons of pot," Pacula said. For anything less, she said, "they don't have the resources to waste on it."

In a typical recent prosecution, 29-year-old Luke Scarmazzo was sentenced to nearly 22 years and co-defendant Ricardo Ruiz Montes to 20 years in federal prison for drug trafficking through a medical marijuana dispensary in Modesto.

At his bond hearing, prosecutors showed a rap video in which Scarmazzo boasts about his successful marijuana business, taunts federal authorities and carries cardboard boxes filled with cash. The DEA said the pair made more than $4.5 million in marijuana sales in less than two years.

The DEA would not speculate on the effects of any decision by California to legalize pot. "Marijuana is illegal under federal law and DEA will continue to attack large-scale drug trafficking organizations at every level," spokeswoman Dawn Dearden said.

The most conservative of the three ballot measures would only legalize possession of up to one ounce of pot for personal use by adults 21 and older – an amount that already under state law can only result at most in a $100 fine.

The proposal would also allow anyone to grow a plot of marijuana up to 5 feet-by-5 feet on their private property. The size, Pacula said, seems specifically designed to keep the total number of plants grown below 100, the threshold for DEA attention.

The greatest potential for conflict with the U.S. government would likely come from the provision that would give local governments the power to decide city-by-city whether to allow pot sales.

Hundreds of medical marijuana dispensaries across the state already operate openly with only modest federal interference. If recreational marijuana became legal, these businesses could operate without requiring their customers to qualify as patients.

Any business that grew bigger than the already typical storefront shops, however, would probably be too tempting a target for federal prosecution, experts said.

Even if Washington could no longer count on California to keep pot off its own streets, Congress or the Obama administration could try to coerce cooperation by withholding federal funds.

But with U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder's announcement earlier this year that the Justice Department would defer to state laws on marijuana, the federal response to possible legalization remains unclear.

Doug Richardson, a spokesman for the White House's Office of National Drug Control Policy, said the office is in the process of re-evaluating its policies on marijuana and other drugs.

Richardson said the office under Obama was pursuing a "more comprehensive" approach than the previous administration, with emphasis on prevention and treatment as well as law enforcement.

"We're trying to base stuff on the facts, the evidence and the science," he said, "not some particular prejudice somebody brings to the table."

(This version CORRECTS Corrects state population in graf 2 to more than 38 million, sted 40 million)

SAN FRANCISCO — Marijuana advocates are gathering signatures to get as many as three pot-legalization measures on the ballot in 2010 in California, setting up what could be a groundbreaking clas...
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OK im one of the people who does not like the idea of legalizing marijuana.but I will just agree to disagree I just saw Cheech and Chong and they brought back a lot of memories, they were awesome. I hope they make another movie

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 11/19/2009
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Go California! There are moments like this when I am proud to live here.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 10/09/2009
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Hearings on Massachusetts "Tax and Regulate" Bill in Boston Next Week
Posted in Chronicle Blog by David Borden on Thu, 10/08/2009 - 3:51pm

On Wednesday, October 14, 2009, at 10:00am in Room B2 at the State House in Boston, the Joint Committee on Revenue in the Massachusetts legislature will hold a public hearing on bill H. 2929, An Act to Regulate and Tax the Cannabis Industry. If passed, the new law would repeal existing marijuana prohibition laws at the state level and replace them with a system of regulation and taxation, similar to how wine is sold. The law, in fact, is largely modeled after the alcohol control laws.

According to Northampton attorney Richard M. Evans, a former DRCNet board member and the petitioner whose Representative presented the bill, Wednesday will mark the first time a state legislature has considered a full legalization bill. The moment is also propitious because Massachusetts this year implemented its new, voter-enacted decriminalization law, and because Gov. Deval Patrick, while not prioritizing it, is on the record as being very comfortable with the idea of legalizing marijuana.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 10/08/2009
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So while we don't expect that H. 2929 will be enacted this year, it is a rare and important opportunity to forward the debate on alternatives to prohibition. And you can help: by showing up Wednesday if you can; by spreading the word and getting others to come out; by suggesting to your local newspaper that they cover the hearing; and by contacting your state legislators to express your support for H. 2929. Directions to the State House are available here.

Please let us know what you're able to do to support H. 2929, and visit http://www.cantaxreg.com for further information about it. Visit http://www.masscann.org to find out about extensive activist opportunities in Massachusetts.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 10/08/2009
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I am very skeptical about giving the rights of growing and using marijuana to the government. It's classified as a drug, would it then be illegal to "make "it in your own home (I mean you can't make your own aspirin) and will it be become so highly priced and taxed that no one will be able to afford it? Look what they just did to loose leaf tobacco, more than doubled the price so low and fixed income folks can no longer afford it.
They also take the control of it out of the hands of the entrepreneurs who have learned so much, struggling to manage time, money and the police, in order to enable us to smoke pot all these years. We set up a "business" and now they want to take it over? I just can't help but think we might be exchanging one problem for another.
I'd love to legalize it, but can we keep the government's hands off my pot!!!??
Yeah, I'd like folks not to get arrested for it, but I have serious issues with the for profit prison system, like I said, I'm skeptical
CA resident

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 10/08/2009
- fredamae I'm a Fan of fredamae 35 fans permalink

You Should be Skeptical! They want the FDA involved! Are THESE people the ones who allowed Vioxx? and So many other "Killer Drugs"?

Nope, This IS a Plant and WE the People Have Positively Demonstrated, Out of Necessity that WE Can Successfully Manage OUR Safety Re: this Plant/Medi­cine/Alter­native Medicinal Phyto-Therapy on our Own.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 10/09/2009
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I saw an offender with tonnes of pot literally tones and tones. Earth. Who will arrest earth.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 10/08/2009
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Here's an excellent new book that puts things in perspective:

"Marijuana is Safer: So Why Are We Driving People to Drink?"

It's available on Amazon.

More people have died from the war on Marijuana than have been killed by the actual drug. Dead from Marijuana overdose = 0 (in the entire history on mankind in fact).

This drug war is doing way more human damage than good. Then there is the money:

* DEA
* Lawyers
* Prisons (many are for-profit).
* Local and Federal law enforcement
* Forgone income to the prohibition generated criminal enterprises.
* College age children banished from obtaining college loans.
* College age children encouraged to drink alcohol because of disproportionate punishment for pot.

It's a public health problem. It should be treated like alcohol and tobacco. Education and unfettered access to treatment should be the approach. Sending these people to jail is just crazy.

In essence these people are being charged with a crime against themselves and that just doesn't make sense. Do you go to jail for riding a bicycle without a helmet? Do you go to jail for smoking cigarettes? Nope... they are personal choices.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 10/08/2009
- fredamae I'm a Fan of fredamae 35 fans permalink

I Wonder If Everyone across the County Who Supports the California Initiative, Donated and Participated how ever one could to Help get this thing passed, if "they" would get it...that it IS time for New Federal Laws, Policies and Rules that govern Cannabis consumption?????

Federally De-Schedule, Federally De-Criminalize

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 10/08/2009
- Fred Hood I'm a Fan of Fred Hood 117 fans permalink
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huff no comment???? where did our issue go?????????????

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 10/08/2009
- beebletree I'm a Fan of beebletree 20 fans permalink
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Why are we not more appalled and we allow humans to be kept captive. Think about this, Captive. As in cages in prisons. In rooms which are smaller and dirtier than most animal cages.

Reform the justice system where the fundamental concern is not vengeance. No more arbitrarily decided time period agreed upon by two other humans. No more lobbying by lawyers to judges, pleading them to increase captivity time for someone who poses no physical harm to anyone.

Doesn't bother you?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 10/08/2009
- Fred Hood I'm a Fan of Fred Hood 117 fans permalink
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How about judges convicted of accepting millions in bribes to insure the for profit jails are kept full.....how does this reflect on our free country to the world? a world WHERE our lawmakers bribe other countries to support our failed drug war.... Mexico given billions every year for cannabis eradication WE ARE SUPPORTING THE KILLING OF MEXICANS TO INSURE CORPORATE LEGAL DRUG PUSHERS PROFITS.....CFJ

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 10/08/2009
- Fred Hood I'm a Fan of Fred Hood 117 fans permalink
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please send the huff post a note why was this on front page now buried I have looked everywhere if I had not copied the URL I could not find it WHT HUFF POST??????????? At last a reputable paper facing a major issue and then poof gone??????­??????????­??????????­??????????­??????????­?????????
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CFJ

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 10/08/2009
- beebletree I'm a Fan of beebletree 20 fans permalink
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A quick excerpt for the the conservatives.. not the ones who want to revise bible though.
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Jesus w as almost certainly a cannabis user and an early proponent of the medicinal properties of the drug, according to a study of scriptural texts published this month. The study suggests that Jesus and his disciples used the drug to carry out miraculous healings.
The anointing oil used by Jesus and his disciples contained an ingredient called kaneh-bosem which has since been identified as cannabis extract, according to an article by Chris Bennett in the drugs magazine, High Times, entitled Was Jesus a Stoner? The incense used by Jesus in ceremonies also contained a cannabis extract, suggests Mr Bennett, who quotes scholars to back his claims..

Full article - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/jan/06/science.religion

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 10/08/2009
- Fred Hood I'm a Fan of Fred Hood 117 fans permalink
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herb not a drug some view this better knowing its a herb like oregano

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 10/08/2009
- beebletree I'm a Fan of beebletree 20 fans permalink
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I have been always reluctant to go to business conferences in cali. Now, any chance to be there will be great.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 10/08/2009
- Fred Hood I'm a Fan of Fred Hood 117 fans permalink
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Warriors please visit the Hufington Post (my source for news) and let them know how you feel about Californians drive to make cannabis legal period. Also telling the FEDs to stay out....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/07/pot-legalization-gains-mo_n_313418.html#postComment

CFJ

CUT AND PASTE EVERYWHERE LETS BURY UM..........

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 10/08/2009
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I have acreage 7 acres, and I want to grow hemp! Why cant that be legal as well, I'm in Washington State this is so unfair. Come on California we are rooting for you, Washington copies everything (well almost) you do. It amazes me that hemp is still illegal.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 10/08/2009
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Check out the California Cannabis Initiative which states:

This Act hereby provides for the decriminalization of industrial hemp. The state and local governments shall enact laws and regulations promoting the cultivation, production, processing, sales, distribution, regulation, and taxation of industrial hemp and all derivatives thereof.

Come on people!! Go to www.californiacannabisinitiative.org and support this superior initiative!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 10/08/2009
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page not found, please try again. Thanks

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 10/08/2009
- Fred Hood I'm a Fan of Fred Hood 117 fans permalink
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cut and paste this URL it maybe the only way to find page since it disappeared from the front page.....

CFJ

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 10/08/2009
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