Ken Salazar Plans To Transfer Overpopulated Western Wild Horses To Sanctuaries In East

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MATTHEW DALY | 10/ 7/09 07:19 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — Thousands of mustangs that now roam the West would be moved to preserves in the Midwest and East under a new Interior Department plan to protect wild horse herds and the rangelands that support them.

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said Wednesday the plan would not require killing any wild horses. Interior Department officials had warned in recent months that slaughtering some of the 69,000 wild horses and burros under federal control might be necessary to combat rising costs of maintaining them.

Nearly 37,000 wild horses and burros roam in Nevada, California, Wyoming and other Western states, and another 32,000 horses and burros are cared for in corrals and pastures in Kansas, Oklahoma and South Dakota.

Salazar said the current program is not sustainable for the animals, the environment or taxpayers.

The wild horse program, run by the Bureau of Land Management, cost about $50 million this year, officials said, up from $36 million last year. Costs for the current program are expected to rise to at least $85 million by 2012.

The bureau rounds up thousands of the animals annually but has had a hard time finding buyers in recent years.

In a conference call with reporters, Salazar and bureau director Bob Abbey urged Congress to authorize seven wild horse preserves – including two owned and operated by the BLM. The agency would work with private groups on the remaining reserves, which would be located in states in the Midwest and East.

Water and forage are extremely limited in the West, Salazar said, and drought and wildfires threaten both rangeland and animal health in many Western states. "Unfortunately, arid western lands and watersheds cannot support a population this large without significant damage to the environment," he said.

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Salazar did not identify where the preserves would be located, but said the two federally owned preserves would cost about $92 million to buy and build. The preserves would reduce taxpayer costs for care of wild horses in the long term, Salazar said.

"It also will be better for the horses," he said.

The seven preserves would hold about 25,000 horses. Many of the horses remaining on the range would be neutered and reproduction in Western herds would be strictly limited, Salazar said.

Some ranchers, Native American groups and Western lawmakers have proposed reversing a decades-old ban on selling wild horses for slaughter, but Salazar, a former rancher, called that idea a nonstarter.

"The fact is that the American public has shown that it does not want to have slaughtering of these animals," he said.

Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, welcomed Salazar's plan, which he said would reverse decades of government policies that treated wild horses and burros as a nuisance.

"Years of attempts by BLM to shoehorn these magnificent animals into ever-shrinking territory has manufactured an overcrowding problem," Rahall said. "Restoring horses and burros to the acreage from which they have been needlessly removed is critical."

Spokesman Tom Gorey said the land management agency would work with state and local officials to create the preserves – essentially large ranches – and make them accessible to the public.

"We think there is real potential for ecotourism," he said. "Everybody loves horses."

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WASHINGTON — Thousands of mustangs that now roam the West would be moved to preserves in the Midwest and East under a new Interior Department plan to protect wild horse herds and the rangelands ...
WASHINGTON — Thousands of mustangs that now roam the West would be moved to preserves in the Midwest and East under a new Interior Department plan to protect wild horse herds and the rangelands ...
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Niko73, please let us know what type of math you used to determine that 50,000 horses is more than 7.5 million cattle. Or are you saying the BLM is lying about how many privately owned cattle are on public land?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 10/15/2009
- Patriot86 I'm a Fan of Patriot86 33 fans permalink

But what about the flatulence of the horses? I thought that contributed to global warming?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 10/10/2009
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 23 fans permalink


Give the horses to the Amish people. They use them for farming and transportation.
Maybe we should substitute horses for some of the automobiles on
the road...
Change the horse power in cars to 4 legged horse power.

Maybe if they gave these horses to people instead of auctioning them,
they would find homes for them.
Beef is a big business and people aren't going to give it up just because some people think they should.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 10/09/2009
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People are having a hard time in many areas feeding the horses they own. But thanks to laws that prohibit selling them to slaughterhouses or overseas, they just starve slowly to death. You can't even give some of these wild horses away, they're wild. Horses are big strong animals. Stupid to put anyone but a qualified wrangler on one of these horses, even after breaking them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 10/10/2009
- mollymac I'm a Fan of mollymac 15 fans permalink

If you have ever seen a horse being slaughtered, you would literally puke. Know what you are talking about. Salazar's plan is intelligent and what the people WANT.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 10/10/2009
- mollymac I'm a Fan of mollymac 15 fans permalink

Even though it is horribly bad for you?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 10/10/2009

I hope the animals will have enough space in the crowded East and will be able to adapt to that climate.

This is better than slaughtering them for human or dog food.

I have heard the areas in the West are getting too crowded, but I don't know how to judge the veracity of such statements.

Wild horses are a symbol of American freedom and of the open West. It would be tragic to lose them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 10/09/2009
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The original article listed here described the breeding rate/reproduction rate for wild horses, look it up.

My uncle worked for BLM and rounded up thousands of horses for adoption. We adopted two horses from him, but after a period of time, even with experinced trainers they were not safe for us kids. We drove them to auction and a 10 horse horse-trailer was driving around the parking lot. They pulled up and gave us $500 cash, no paperwork, for both horses. Almost certainly they were from a dog food plant. We really didn't care.

In this economy, a lot of small ranchers and others can hardly afford to feed the horses they have. There is no big "rush" to adopt wild horses for pets. The current laws, although well intentioned, are the cause of the current problem

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 10/10/2009

I did a video project for Colorado Horse Rescue a few years ago. They were not only involved with rescuing abused or abandoned horses, they also helped with adoptions, training and other aspects of horse ownership. Several of the people involved with the program had good luck with the wild horses. Temple Grandin at CSU is very good with horse taming as well as with livestock.

It isn't impossible for these wild beauties to find good homes.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 10/10/2009
- mollymac I'm a Fan of mollymac 15 fans permalink

I can't even respond to your stupidity.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 10/10/2009
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Just another example of America deciding it knows nature better than nature...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 10/09/2009

Harvest them and sell them to Japan.
They will eat anything.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 10/09/2009

This is sensible compromise for the horses currently being held.

But what about the ones on the range that still reproduce at 20-25% annually? They’re an introduced species and they need to be managed. We can’t just let them all “run free” as many wild horse advocates would like. Horses have both upper and lower teeth, so instead of leaving a bit of the plant to re-sprout next season, they kill the plant. I’ve seen the damage they can do, and it’s well documented in research (that’s why BLM wins its court cases on wild horse gathers).

Contraception is an encouraging option. Mares should be treated every few years to slow down reproduction. That slows down wild horse gathers, which reduces the huge surplus of wild horses no one wants. It’s being done with the help of the Human Society of the United States (thank you for DOING something instead of just attacking the BLM) with good success.

And for the record, I support fewer cattle on public lands also. But you can’t excuse the damage wild horses do to the environment just because cattle do it too.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 10/09/2009
- mollymac I'm a Fan of mollymac 15 fans permalink

Maybe the humans should slow down their breeding. Then there would be more land for non human species.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 10/10/2009
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Exactly!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 10/10/2009

I'm all for birth control, for horses and for HUMANS.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 10/10/2009
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I think you're a bit confused about the teeth thing.

Wild horses mostly eat grasses. Because they have upper and lower teeth, they can cut the grass with their teeth, and not pull the grass out of the ground, like a cow does with its tongue and dental pad.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 10/12/2009
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Find a way to make it work. Much rather have horses than cattle. Even the thought makes me sick.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 10/09/2009

Compared to over 6 million head of cattle, there are hardly too many horses on the range.
Although it is a relief to save wild horses from slaughter, the wild horse will become domesticated.
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 10/09/2009
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And here all this time I thought the problem was too many people tearing up the ecosystems, destroying a +1000 hectares a day...it's really the wild horses!

Seems like the same mentality we applied to the Native Indians.....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 10/09/2009
- LiamR I'm a Fan of LiamR 13 fans permalink
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It's scams like this that discredit nearly all Democratic and progressive causes in the eyes of rural America. It's true that wild horses are not indigenous to the Western prairies, but that's even more true of the prairies, forests, and mountain ranges of the Midwest and the East. It's interesting that NONE of these purported preserves have been identified yet, which makes this more of a shell game than a sober plan to deal with the wild horse tragedy.

Over the past 38 years legislation related to wild horses, and horses in general, has largely been influenced by counterproductive sentimentalism. Horses are very intelligent, loyal animals, and like all living beings they deserve to be treated humanely, and with dignity. But they are also livestock, which means they are the product of human-directed breeding programs. That is true of America's wild horses, which were initially introduced by Spanish conquistadors and which today are often the offspring of recently abandoned horses.

Instead of passing legislation to manage the wild herds efficiently or to enforce humane shipping and slaughter practices, the government pursues ineffective programs that inevitably lead to more cruelty to the horses, more damage to the environment, and more waste of taxpayer dollars. And when it happens under a Democratic administration it discredits our party as being out-of-touch with the realities of rural America.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 10/09/2009

Our western public lands are over run with 4 Million cattle. Secretary Salazar has a conflict of interest. As a Senator, Salazar voted to put downed (diseased) animals in Americans food supply. Removing the wild horses only to increase the cattle is the special interest's answer. The peoples answer is the use of immuno contraceptive PZP on the few remaining wild horses (by dart from helicopters) and stop breeding millions of cattle which produce 18% of global warming per the UN. Cattle have no upper front teeth and pull the flora out with their tongues often by the roots. They are non-native specie and evolved entirely in Asia, Horses are true top down grazers which increase bio-diversity and are a native species. The BLM has mis-used this science in favor of 4 million cattle over less than 30 thousand wild horses remaining, that have the legal right to roam our public lands.
Secretary Salazar as Senator has already earned the title of Slaughter Czar. One of only 4 Democratic Senators to earn a zero HSUS animal score multiple years and during the 110th Congress. Let’s face it, even our National Health Care Costs for cancer, heart disease, and many obesity related diseases could be decreased very simply by dealing with this special interest’s hold on our government, once and for all. BEEF, it’s what’s killing our nations people AND wild life.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 AM on 10/09/2009
- dayala I'm a Fan of dayala 18 fans permalink

bravo...spot on!

the main culprit and problem for wild horses, wild lands, the environment and human health is the cattle industry.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 10/09/2009
- LiamR I'm a Fan of LiamR 13 fans permalink
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I'm from Colorado. I know that Salazar is not an above-the-board official. We (Colorado progressives) are just relieved he doesn't hold his senate seat anymore. Regarding cattle versus horses, neither species is indigenous to the land but there is plenty of room for both to be sustained on the range in appropriate numbers and with appropriate compensations to the public. Credible environmental impact studies should be the starting point - not Hollywood movies about beautiful horses running free. My complaint regarding wild horses, and the related legislation on horse slaughter, is that these policies are created in response to over-senti­mentalized lobbying which actually diminishes the welfare of these animals.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 10/09/2009

Removing a few horses will not increase amount of cattle on public or private lands.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 10/09/2009
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Horses are true top down grazers which increase bio-diversity and are a native species.

No they are not native. They were introduced by the Spanish. Horses, like cattle, do not belong in the US ecosystem. Simple as that. Don't obfuscate things by misinformation, please.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 10/09/2009
- jpeters100 I'm a Fan of jpeters100 3 fans permalink

Thank you for your eloquent post. Better said than I could have and I agree 100%

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 10/09/2009
- CR46 I'm a Fan of CR46 222 fans permalink

To anyone with the ability ---adopt a mustang!! I have two I have adopted, they roam free and while friendly I have made the choice not to train or ride them. I give them the room I have to roam, while not a totally acceptable range for them they are free.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 10/09/2009
- dayala I'm a Fan of dayala 18 fans permalink

thank you for helping these intelligent, magnificient animals, they deserve respect and dignity.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 10/09/2009
- LiamR I'm a Fan of LiamR 13 fans permalink
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Great plan. Only 55,000 horses left to adopt.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 10/09/2009
- hamchunk I'm a Fan of hamchunk 20 fans permalink

What you guys fail to understand is what this land can support without turning to desert scrub. While back East, a horse (considered 1.5 to 2 AUs (AU-animal unit of 1000lbs)) can survive on one or two acres of land, out here, many places are rated at 1 AU to 30 to 40 acres in Colorado, and much more in Utah and Wyoming. This land cannot support the number of animals that reside there and many face a slow starvation because of over population, which must also support antelope, deer and cattle.. Also, the federal lands often are intermixed among private ranches that cannot afford the wild horses taking valuable grazing from their cattle, and reducing an already strained bottom line. Additionally, these horses cause considerable damage to reseeded grasslands and fencing that are installed at the rancher's expense. Wild horses need to be managed like any other wild ruminant, as hard as it may be to some. It is just a fact of life.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 10/08/2009
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hamchunck:
Just wait and see what happens, if you continue to use only your current line of defense for why mustangs and burros should be removed from the western public lands given to the horse in 1971. There is way more deception going on than you may realize. First mustangs & burros are the problem with progress to benefit the mases. Then, it will be wild game. Then it will be the cattle grazing on public lands. Feed lots work pretty good, right? No need for natural foraging to give the public quality meat products. This money grabbing is not about animals. The animals are a smoke screen to gain access to public lands and national parks for energy use & mining rights. Namely the mineral Uranium.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 10/08/2009
- hamchunk I'm a Fan of hamchunk 20 fans permalink

I hear what you are saying but some things are misunderstood. For the most part, cattle are born and raised on family ranches and land holdings, then, once they reach approx 700-1000lbs, they get auctioned and sent to the feedlots. Cattle don't spring up on feedlots at weaning weights and go to processing. Without grazing areas, no cattle get to the feedlots; hence, no meat. But I do agree with the mining concessions you allude to. And since it takes place in areas that most people see, this issue will probably fall off the radar screen for many.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 10/08/2009

Not all cattle got to feedlots, many are sold straight from the pasture.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 10/09/2009
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This is "spin." The land where the horses stand would support them beautifully if BLM and ranchers didn't fence them from their water/food sources. Good sense is to return the wild horses and burros to the 20.8 million acres of public land allocated for them in 1971. Ranchers provide only a microscopic percentage of America's beef supply. The rest goes elsewhere. So why are taxpayers subsidizing private businesses? This is not what was intended for America's wild horses or our American West. The BLM has not only failed mightily at protecting our wild horses, but ialso has gone to significant expense to cause them great harm. The curious should ask "why?" It goes deeper than vague explanations and thinly-veiled descriptions of wild horses too many. Private interests are waiting in the wings. The horses stand between these annonymous profiteers and the money that they could generate off federal land, a direct affront to the language of the U.S. Congress in 1971 recognizing what our wild horses are: something ineffable reminding of the toughness and wild beauty that is America. USA Today held a contest on July 4 this year asking readers to identify and vote on an iconic image of what spoke to them as "the essence of America." Americans chose horses. Our government should understand this: our American essence is not for sale.

The 1971 legislation is well-written. Implemented as originally intended, wild horses could sustain themselves with minimal federal oversight.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 10/08/2009
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Great comment. Faved and you have a fan.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 10/08/2009

Let's look at the science and cut out the emotions, shall we?

The BLM is extremely meticulous about keeping rangeland data on wild horse Herd Management Areas. They do this because they get sued every time they want to gather horses. The data clearly show that unmanaged, horses reproduce very quickly and destroy rangeland. Because of these data, they nearly always win in court. These are not “vague explanations and thinly-veiled descriptions.” They are hard, credible science. Try suing BLM next time and you’ll see.

Western Watersheds and some other groups are looking at nearly every AUM in on public lands in the west. They’ve done a good job nailing BLM where they don’t comply with their laws and policies regarding livestock. So don’t give me any bs about how the BLM is a part of some grand conspiracy to increase cattle on public lands. It’s not happening. Cattle numbers have dropped significantly the last 20 years.

When you confront radical wild horse advocates with facts and science, all they’re left with is yelling and screaming.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 10/09/2009

Au contraire, Niko73. The BLM doesn’t have anything that is accurate. Case in point, there were 33,000 horses in holding pens. Now they say 32,000. What happened to 1,000 horses? Oh, and the tracking software is down on their website and nobody can view the horses because they are on private property. We are paying for those horses and have every right to see them. Every report gives different numbers and dare anyone to ask them to explain the discrepancies.

FACT: There are over 7 million cattle on the land granted to the horses, (during the 1018 hearing they said 8M). So 7M vs. fewer than 50k is an even balance?

FACT: Look at the FY2009 gather schedule. Do you think omitting 2,900 horses is accurate reporting?

FACT: The GAO report clearly indicates that far more damage is done by cattle than by horses.

No doubt the less than 20,000 horses remaining free are doing more damage than 7M cattle. Do you honestly expect anyone with an ounce of intelligence to believe that one?

If you want science, read the reports from the ecologists. They contradict every word out of the collective mouths of the BLM and DOI. Wait until it is made public who owns that land for these proposed sanctuaries and who is getting the leases where the horses used to roam. Someone will be getting rich and horses will be paying for it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 10/09/2009
- mollymac I'm a Fan of mollymac 15 fans permalink

Yes.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 10/10/2009
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This post is unacceptable? I'd sure like to know why you scrubbed it.

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Oh, right, Rancher Salazar. You care about the horses. Really? Then get the millions of your rancher friends' cattle off public lands. And just how are they planning to move these wild horses? They will destroy herds and stress mares and foals to the max. Many will die. It's insane. Salazar is the worst Interior Secretary since James Watt, but at least he's "transparent". Velma Bronn Johnston, "Wild Horse Annie", is turning in her grave.
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 10/08/2009

If you think Salazar is worse than Gale Norton, you have SERIOUS issue. NOTHING is worse than the DOI under Bush.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 10/09/2009
- mollymac I'm a Fan of mollymac 15 fans permalink

Triple fanned. She has been under indictment for fraud. What a surprise.

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