Stop And Frisk: Police Stop More Than 1 Million People On Street

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COLLEEN LONG | 10/ 8/09 09:13 PM | AP

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NEW YORK — A teenager trying to get into his apartment after school is confronted by police. A man leaving his workplace chooses a different route back home to avoid officers who roam a particular street. These and hundreds of thousands of other Americans in big cities have been stopped on the street by police using a law-enforcement practice called stop-and-frisk that alarms civil libertarians but is credited by authorities with helping reduce crime.

Police in major U.S. cities stop and question more than a million people each year – a sharply higher number than just a few years ago. Most are black and Hispanic men. Many are frisked, and nearly all are innocent of any crime, according to figures gathered by The Associated Press.

And the numbers are rising at the same time crime rates are dropping.

Ronnie Carr's experience was typical: He was fumbling with his apartment door after school in Brooklyn when plainclothes officers flashed their badges.

"What are you doing here?" one asked, as they rifled through his backpack and then his pockets. The black teenager stood there, quiet and nervous, and waited.

Carr said the officers told him they stopped him because he looked suspicious peeking in the windows. He explained that he had lost his keys. Twenty minutes later, the officers left. Carr was not arrested or cited with any offense.

"I felt bad, like I did something wrong," he said.

Civil liberties groups say the practice is racist and fails to deter crime. Police departments maintain it is a necessary tool that turns up illegal weapons and drugs and prevents more serious crime.

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Police records indicate that officers are drawn to suspicious behavior: furtive movements, actions that indicate someone may be serving as a lookout, anything that suggests a drug deal, or a person carrying burglary tools such as a slim jim or pry bar.

The New York Police Department is among the most vocal defenders of the practice. Commissioner Raymond Kelly said recently that officers may stop as many as 600,000 people this year. About 10 percent are arrested.

"This is a proven law enforcement tactic to fight and deter crime, one that is authorized by criminal procedure law," he said.

The practice is perfectly legal. A 1968 Supreme Court decision established the benchmark of "reasonable suspicion" – a standard that is lower than the "probable cause" needed to justify an arrest.

But in the mid-1990s, then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani and NYPD Commissioner William Bratton made stop-and-frisk an integral part of the city's law enforcement, relying on the "broken windows" theory that targeting low-level offenses helps prevent bigger ones.

Street stops started to go up, and overall crime dropped dramatically in a once-dangerous city.

Last year, New York police stopped 531,159 people, more than five times the number in 2002. Fifty-one percent of those stopped were black, 32 percent Hispanic and 11 percent white.

Not all stops are the same. Some people are just stopped and questioned. Others have their bag or backpack searched. And sometimes police conduct a full pat-down.

David Harris, a law professor at the University of Pittsburgh and an expert on street stops, said few searches yield weapons or drugs. And the more people are searched, the more innocent people are hassled.

"The hit rate goes down because you're being less selective about how you're doing this. That has a cost. It's not free," Harris said.

When officers make a stop, they are required to fill out a form, including the time and location of the stop and why police were suspicious. Age, race and whether the person was frisked are also recorded.

In Philadelphia, stops nearly doubled to more than 200,000 from 2007 to 2008. Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter deployed an "aggressive" stop-and-frisk policy in the year since his election in November 2007 and overall crime has dropped.

In Los Angeles, where Bratton recently stepped down as police commissioner, pedestrian stops have doubled in the past six years to 244,038 in 2008. The number of people stopped in cars is higher.

About 15 percent of the stops resulted in arrests in 2002, compared with about 30 percent in 2008, according to an analysis of the data by Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government.

Several other major police departments do not keep street-stop statistics or do not release them. Chicago police refused to release numbers to the AP. Boston police say they do not keep the records. The New Orleans department is not required to keep statistics on race and pedestrian stops.

RAND, an independent research agency hired by the New York Police Department to analyze street-stop data in 2007 after public outcry, found little racial profiling. It said the raw statistics "distorted the magnitude and, at times, the existence of racially biased policing."

The NYPD continues to monitor the issue, but after the RAND analysis, officials agreed that large-scale restructuring was unnecessary.

Kelly has warned against more simplistic data reviews.

"There are 8.4 million people in New York City. That number swells to more than 10 million every work day. Police are responsible for more than 800,000 summonses and arrests annually based on the higher standard of probable cause," Kelly said.

"Under the circumstances, it's not surprising that we make 500,000 or even 600,000 stops based on the less stringent standard of reasonable suspicion."

Civil liberties groups also complain because New York police keep a database of everyone stopped – innocent or not. That makes them targets for future investigations, said Christopher Dunn, associate legal director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.

Los Angeles was forced by federal mandate to release data on street stops – including the race of those stopped – starting in 2000 after a series of scandals. The city government promised to adopt scores of reform measures under federal court supervision.

The LAPD was released from the federal decree in July, but a report last year by the ACLU in Southern California showed that blacks were still nearly three times more likely to be stopped by police than whites.

"The initial defense was: 'Because we're over-policing higher crime neighborhoods, they're predominantly populated by people of color, and that's why,'" said Peter Bibring, an ACLU attorney in Los Angeles.

But an analysis done for the ACLU in 2008 by Yale law professor Ian Ayres accounts for differences in crime rates and still shows minorities are stopped much more.

Some people who are stopped file lawsuits against the city and speak out publicly. Most just accept it.

In Harlem, George Lucas changed his route home from work to avoid a stretch of Seventh Avenue, because he kept being stopped by the police.

"The inconvenience of walking out of my way still saves me the worry and frustration about being stopped," said Lucas, 28, director of a nonprofit.

It's so common in some areas that community groups have begun offering classes on how to behave when stopped.

Courtney Bennett of the nonprofit New York City Mission Society says he regularly hosts groups of 30 men, of all ages, who feel powerless because they are stopped routinely for what they say is no reason. Carr recently attended a similar meeting for teens at another nonprofit called The Door.

Bennett is also a member of the Order of the Feather, a black fraternity that mentors young men and promotes community service. At a recent initiation ceremony in Harlem, it did not take long to find dozens of people who said they were stopped by police.

"You see these guys? They're normal guys, you know? Regular dudes," said Paul Hawkins, 22. "They've all been affected by it somehow. They were stopped, or someone they knew, or their dad or whatever. And they're not, you know, criminals."

NEW YORK — A teenager trying to get into his apartment after school is confronted by police. A man leaving his workplace chooses a different route back home to avoid officers who roam a particul...
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The biggest irony is that when the police is around I feel less safe.On the subway I try to go into the car that doesn't have a cop in it they no longer inspire confidence.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 10/11/2009
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Here's a tip to NYPD...sto­p loitering around and hanging out chatting when you are walking the beat; instead actually do your job and take in your sorroundings.

NYPD is an increasingly sloppy and aggressive bunch.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 10/11/2009
- sski74 I'm a Fan of sski74 29 fans permalink
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As a Caucasian, professional woman in NYC, I was also stopped in the subway and my bag searched. Honestly, I didn't find any harm in it. I felt safer that they are actually stopping people regardless of their race and/or gender and checking them out...espe­cially in the subway. With the recent threats against NYC subway systems, I think random bag checks are absolutely appropriate. Can we ever be too safe, especially in target cities? Frisking people on the streets may be going a little beyond.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 10/11/2009
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That's not the same; they do that in the subway for obvious reasons.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 10/11/2009
- Nommo I'm a Fan of Nommo 79 fans permalink
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

B. Franklin

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 10/11/2009
- sski74 I'm a Fan of sski74 29 fans permalink
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To comment that quote, you clearly don't live in an urban setting, nor was Franklin living in this "modern world" where we have to look over our shoulders constantly. There is a proper way to obtain safety where it doesn't discriminate, but I will also take safety however I can get it. I am not offended if I am questioned or searched, I take it as a way of keeping my fellow Americans safe. Sorry.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 10/11/2009
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 330 fans permalink
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The _Gestapo used to do this in Germany. There was very little crime there, but then, who the _hell would want to live there at that time?

This is a direct result of the Patriot Act, instituted by guess who, our very own _butthead, George W. Bush.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 10/11/2009
- iLoveOldNY I'm a Fan of iLoveOldNY 143 fans permalink
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Why do cops have a bad rap? I wonder...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 AM on 10/11/2009
- Rayme I'm a Fan of Rayme 11 fans permalink

OMG, this is sick.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 10/10/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 71 fans permalink
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I'm sure Obama will fix it, or did he just renew the Patriot act or something?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 AM on 10/11/2009
- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 98 fans permalink
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Crime dropped by the same amount all across north America; the cause was demography, not policing.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 10/09/2009
- BigBagel I'm a Fan of BigBagel 28 fans permalink
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1991 NYC homicides approx 2200.
2009 NYC homicides will probably be less then 500.
Please explain the demographic effects that resulted in this drop.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 10/10/2009

Read the Age Curve http://www.amazon.com//Age-Curve-Profit-Coming-Demographic/dp/0814401813)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 10/10/2009
- Ventoi I'm a Fan of Ventoi 6 fans permalink
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If you are frisking them and I say 'stop that'
will you know how to get me 'out of there'

squack, squack?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 10/09/2009
- markdavida I'm a Fan of markdavida 6 fans permalink

Law enforcement always defends their actions with the same basic phrase "it prevents crime". No proof is ever offered of this prevention. So if stopping people and randomly frisking them is o.k. why not randomly go into their house or place of business and search for weapons or crime evidence? It will prevent crime, so it must be good. People should absolutely refuse these intrusions into their private person. We have that right; probable cause applies here. This is the slippery slope people. We let the police search us without cause, in a few years they will be knocking on doors saying they need to check things out in your house - if you are not a criminal or terrorist you have nothing to worry about. As always.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 10/09/2009

Other than traffic stops, law enforcement hardly ever prevent direct crimes. They are generally called in after a crime was commited. There duty then is to investigate and bring the criminal to justice. Once the criminal is brought to justice and is incarcerated or placed on probation, he then may be prevented from committed future criminal acts.

The erosion of job opportunities leads to the development of an underground black market. People are going to do what's necessary to survive. Thus by shipping job opportunities overseas, criminal enterprises arise and the attitude then becomes survival of the fitness by any means possible. No many how many times a criminal gets caught, the psychosis of the criminal mind is that their next criminal enterprise will be successful.

The actor James Wood once argued in a movie that perpetuation of the war on drugs is more powerful than the Constitution itself because the war on drugs erodes constitutional protections under the guise of preventing drug trafficking.

Same thing happens with terrorism, Willie Horton, and fear of militias. Create fear among the people and people will give up their civil rights to be protected.­.....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 10/09/2009

That is why we erred in not more righteously complaining about the government's seizure of our rights, liberties & freedoms. Tyrants can always argue about a specific benefit of surrendering (or the government seizing) your rights, liberties & freedoms. Any benefit is far outweighed by the ultimate cost.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 10/09/2009
- mech126 I'm a Fan of mech126 11 fans permalink
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The next thing that will happen is they will be able to go into your house and search it just because they can. All because they are preventing crime

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 10/09/2009
- mech126 I'm a Fan of mech126 11 fans permalink
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THIS CAN NOT CONTINUE FOR IT IS WRONG !!!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 10/09/2009
- mech126 I'm a Fan of mech126 11 fans permalink
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Man this is just bad. I was stop 42 times in one year and i was doing nothing but going to the store to get some pop... never given a ticket and no arrests that is just wrong. Until you live it you have no ideal how bad really is bad. IT NEEDS TO STOP NOW

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 10/09/2009
- onenvrnos I'm a Fan of onenvrnos 31 fans permalink
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We got stopped in the United States, about 75 miles from the Mexican border. There was a checkpoint, and we were "ordered" to get out of our car, move to a waiting area (all the while being screamed at to NOT put our hands in our pockets), and watch while the sniffing dog went around our vehicle. We were returning from vacation and en route home, we had not been in Mexico, and we are in our late 50's--just minding our own business. I had a small amount of weed in the car for personal use, less than an ounce. My husband does not partake. Yet, I felt physically sick thinking that--if they searched the car--we might even lose our home if the police found something, or planted something, and charged us. We felt like criminals. We know exactly how you feel--you can't imagine how it is until it happens to you. I don't know what the solution is. I do know that our very freedoms are threatened in every way by the war on drugs and the goal of reducing crime. Something needs to be done--but what?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 10/10/2009
- Rayme I'm a Fan of Rayme 11 fans permalink

We need to End the Fed, the government has been financing itself for decades by way of the printing press. If we can End the Fed and return to sound money, the government would have to live on what it can take in in taxes, this would severely restrict the growth of government and restore personal liberty to all Americans.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 10/11/2009
- publanski I'm a Fan of publanski 37 fans permalink
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I bet all the people who say it's okay would be singing a different tune if were happening to them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 10/09/2009
- mech126 I'm a Fan of mech126 11 fans permalink
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you are soooo right about that

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 10/09/2009
- abbyrose86 I'm a Fan of abbyrose86 234 fans permalink
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Co-sign

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 10/10/2009
- mpmc23 I'm a Fan of mpmc23 2 fans permalink

How does that famous quotation go... "f$ck the police"... ?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 10/09/2009
- KIVPossum I'm a Fan of KIVPossum 54 fans permalink
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Seems to me this practice really opens the door for profiling. Granted profiling may have a place at times, yet as a norm, police are all too ready to think every black youth, every vagrant, is ready to commit a crime.

Giving a cop on the beat this much discression is asking for trouble.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 10/09/2009

We are not free. We live in a fascist police state. Our rights disappeared with The Homeland Gestapo Act. At least the last of our rights disappeared then.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 10/09/2009
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Bingo

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 10/10/2009
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