Senate Finance Committee Approves Health Care Reform 14-9

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First Posted: 10-13-09 02:52 PM   |   Updated: 10-13-09 06:06 PM

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Sixty-four years ago, President Harry Truman stood before a joint session of Congress and called on the body "to assure the right to adequate medical care and protection from the economic fears of sickness."

Forty-nine years later, President Bill Clinton made the same demand.

On Tuesday afternoon, the U.S. Congress moved closer to achieving that goal than it ever has. The hold-out Senate Finance Committee voted by a 14-to-9 margin to move the fifth and final health care reform proposal through the conservative panel.

The package, coming in at under $900 billion over 10 years, is the least generous in terms of subsidies for working- and middle-class Americans to purchase health insurance, and it does not include a national public health insurance option. But the bill would dramatically reorganize the nation's system of health care and health insurance and stands as the foundation on which Democrats hope to build a strong reform package with negligible GOP support.

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) was the lone Republican to support the package. "My vote today is my vote today. It doesn't forecast what my vote will be tomorrow," she said, although her vote does keep her at the negotiating table and at the center of the health care reform debate. Snowe risked marginalizing herself with a no vote.

With the bill having officially moved through the panel, deliberations will migrate to the Capitol, where Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will huddle with Senate leaders to merge the finance bill with a more generous version from the health committee, which passed earlier this year.

Snowe stressed that her support for the final bill would depend on its resemblance in total cost, at least, to the finance bill. "I'm probably more vigilant about that point now than I've ever been," said committee chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.), addressing her concern. Baucus added that he was ready to fight changes to "the so-called merged bill."

Republicans, meanwhile, stand in lock-step opposition -- minus Snowe -- to the reform effort. They know their history: the year after both Truman and Clinton's failed efforts, the GOP retook control of Congress and any hope of reform faded to minority status.

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President Obama intends to avoid the same fate. The White House couldn't have been happier to have Snowe's support to give the bill the sheen of bipartisanship. Obama said Tuesday the finance vote "is obviously another step forward in bringing about a better deal for the American people," but he said he wouldn't "count chickens before they're hatched."

Obama singled out Snowe as an exemplar of bipartisanship shortly before after she declared her support for the finance bill. "I thank not only Chairman Baucus and others, but in particular Sen. Snowe has been extraordinary diligent in working together so that we can reduce costs of health care, make sure that people who don't have it are covered, make sure that people who do have insurance have more security and stability, and that over the long term we're saving families, businesses and our government money," Obama said.

"We have today a bipartisan bill," White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said later Tuesday.

Along with Snowe, every Democrat on the committee offered some measure of praise for Baucus, even the staunch public-option advocates whose amendments were twice blocked by the chairman and a couple of more conservative Democrats throughout the markup. "Your work here is a legislative tour de force rarely seen in these halls," Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) told Baucus.

"I think that the dialogue is now for real," said Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.V.), though he, like Schumer and others, said he plans to continue pushing for a public option in the final reform package.

Democrats didn't shrink from voicing changes they'd like to see in the final reform bill, but their main target was the health insurance industry, which released a report Monday claiming that reform will increase health insurance premiums. "It's one more indication that we're on the right track," Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) said of the report, while Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said the "last-minute obfuscation" illustrated the need for a public option to keep insurers honest.

A much wider variety of complaints emerged from the Republican side of the committee dais -- and that was just from Kansas Sen. Pat Roberts.

"I am terribly concerned that we are riding hell-for-leather into a health care box canyon full of spending quicksand, cactus tax hikes, policy briar patches, complete with CMS regulatory scorpions, rattlesnakes and bad-news bears," Roberts said. "Something like riding your pickup over a whole tangle of barbed wire and getting out of this, Mr. Chairman, and back on solid ground to make Medicare solvent, is going to be a mighty rough and long ride."

Roberts also claimed that the finance bill would take a "Lizzie Borden ax" to Medicare and amounts to "a big shell game." He also reiterated his suggestions for the committee-room décor. "I know, Mr. Chairman, my colleagues, you are very tired of hearing me repeatedly say in hearing after hearing, we should have placed a big sign at the back of our hearing room that says, 'Do no harm.' We should have had it as a flashing light," he said.

Several Republicans suggested scrapping the current bill and starting over. But Democrats -- and Snowe -- said it was time to move forward.

"Is this bill all that I would want? Far from it. Is it all that it can be? No," said Snowe. "But when history calls, history calls, and I happen to think that the consequences of inaction dictate the urgency of Congress to take every opportunity to demonstrate its capacity to solve the monumental issues of our time."

Jeff Muskus contributed reporting


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Sixty-four years ago, President Harry Truman stood before a joint session of Congress and called on the body "to assure the right to adequate medical care and protection from the economic fears of sic...
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 10/24/2009
- writerroz I'm a Fan of writerroz 14 fans permalink
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Also, our good progressive blogging friends, let us send LOTS of emails or make LOTS of phone calls to Democrats, www.democrats.org and especially slam Max Baucus over his hypocritical job of putting together a bill that he KNOWS most Americans are NOT in favor of, that is with no public option and with no plan to adopt until about 2013. Baucus NEEDS to be called out on his greed for payoff from insurance & drug companies that is larger than his wish for Health Care for all. Please put emphasis in messages for Democrats to slam Baucus as well as taking away his chairmanship of the Finance Committee. Baucus is working for Insurance & Drug companies, NOT FOR US & NOT FOR HIS OWN CONSTITUENTS.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 10/17/2009
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Baucus's bill is still nothing as far as I'm concerned. Seems wasteful that so many different groups are each working on a different bill. Baucus & Snowe are no victory since Snowe attatched strings to it and Baucus had no intention of working for a Government option bill due to his LARGE payoffs from Insurance & Drug Companies. So where are we? Some place between here & there with our politicians being paid to put in their time and get nothing done that could have been done already before their recess. We need to insist on our President doing more "hands on" to get what he said he wanted in the first place and what we voted for. Letters, please, to your Senators & House Members.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 10/16/2009

Hi!
If the public option is THE best way to go for most of the people, then how can the voters get the Senators and Representatives do what the voters want, and not what the insurance industry wants?
Other than using a re-call or some kind of arm-twisting technique prior to the next election, what friends, is the solution?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 10/15/2009

The only, ONLY good thing that is happening in helping out the job market is the fact that more and more people are getting sick and need health care (due to bad diets, cigarette smoking, lack of knowledge as to what is good and bad habits). The ability to go to/pay for trips to the emergency room is a terrible problem. More and more people are needed to fill positions such as nurses, health-support jobs, lab assistants and the like. The health of Americans is deteriorating, and a plan that will allow sick citizens to pay for high health-care bills MUST, MUST get through congress and start being utilized. How congress can have ANY questions about whether or not a bill such as the one that is now being proposed amazes me. Republicans are showing no respect for the health of average and lower-class Americans at all, and are continuing to be bought out by the health insurance industry.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 10/14/2009
- joyce2 I'm a Fan of joyce2 3 fans permalink

IMO all government state or federal should have to pay into medicare and S.S. just like the rest of us. If we want another plan we have our 401K'S just as they have their pension plans ,only we pay for their pension plans every last one of them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 10/14/2009
- joyce2 I'm a Fan of joyce2 3 fans permalink

I have already sent her a thank you note for just getting this moved out of committee,which the rest of the republicans were hoping to keep it stalled in.. Now she is someone who can at least say country first not John McCain.The only reason that any premiums would go up is if the insurance industry was taking advantage again of people who have insurance.What good is paying for insurance even with a percentage paid by your employer if the deductibles are so high you still can't afford to see a health care professionals.The same goes for drug coverage,what good is it if you have to spend out of pocket 3 thousand dollars before any drugs are covered.

















does it do you unlesst afford to see a health care professional.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 10/14/2009

One lone Republican senator and it is being trumpeted as bipartisan ... grasping at straws! I bet 90% of us on this site have no clue what is in the Senate Finance Bill or any of the other four floating around for that matter. Its momentum toward what? The cliff?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 10/14/2009

Did you know that 72% of all statistics are made up for dramatic effect?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 10/14/2009

What a lot of time the Democrats wasted for this vote that could have turned out the same in April! The bill they have approved is a shadow of what health care reform needs to be and a shadow of what the President promised. So, what were those endless town halls (on both sides, they were stupid) and endless Obama speeches really about? Certainly, they were not about health care!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 10/14/2009

Well, though something positive has come out of the Senate Chambers, it is by all means not all that perfect. At least we are starting from somewhere and imperfections noticed can then be ironed out when put into operation. It is better than not having ANYTHING at all for the lower percentile of people who needs to be taken care of through this bill when finally passed and signed into law.

The Health Insurance Industry will also put their house in order and really deal with people on a humane basis rather than draining the reserves off them financially just to increase their profits which is perhaps one of the main targets of the bill.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 10/14/2009
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Snowe to Roberts "Meep, meep!" Thank you Senator Snowe for breaking the inertia.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 10/14/2009
- MacQ I'm a Fan of MacQ 41 fans permalink

One republican makes it bipartisan. That's the best spin yet, Gibbs.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 10/14/2009
- MacQ I'm a Fan of MacQ 41 fans permalink

Of grave concern is the way they made it "reduce the deficit" in the short term:
Apparently we will start paying for it now, but it won't kick in til 2015.
Does anyone here have a problem with that???????

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 10/14/2009
- tommytoons I'm a Fan of tommytoons 4 fans permalink
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If my taxes are to go up then they should go up to help support either single Payer insurance or a strong Public Option, I hope the taxpayers aren't going to have to bend over again as we did with the Bailout we "gave" to Wall Street and the Banks who were "too big to fail".

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 AM on 10/14/2009
- janiceh I'm a Fan of janiceh 10 fans permalink

Exactly. I guess they're calling the insurance industry TOO BIG TO FAIL, so everybody needs to start paying premiums to support them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 10/14/2009
- John51 I'm a Fan of John51 10 fans permalink

That's a given; I haven't seen one year in the last ten where my premiums and co-pays haven't risen by at least 10% and my coverage decrease by an equal amount. I have read several times that the Insurance industry has spent approximately 30 million dollars a day lobbying against this bill; who do you think will pay that tab; I would bet it's not being deducted from the CEOs' bonuses.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 10/14/2009
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