All Eyes Turn To Reid: Legacy In Balance As Health Care Debate Continues

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First Posted: 10-14-09 09:40 AM   |   Updated: 10-14-09 10:02 AM

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With the Senate Finance Committee becoming the last of five congressional committees to pass health care reform legislation on Tuesday, the spotlight of the debate shifted sharply to the Majority Leader in the United States Senate.

Harry Reid (D-N.V.) is now, more than ever, the key force determining the prospects of comprehensive reform. His role in melding the divergent demands of members within his own caucus will produce taxing tests on his skills as a party leader and legislator.

But the steep challenge brings with it an alluring incentive. Should Reid prove successful in merging the Finance Committee and HELP Committee bills in the week ahead -- and should he do it while still holding on to the 60 votes needed to overcome legislative obstacles -- he will have permanently inscribed his name into the history books. Perhaps more than any sitting senator, Harry Reid's legacy hangs in the balance as Congress moves into the last stages of the health care reform debate.

Those close to the Nevada Democrat insist that he is uniquely suited for the task. A veteran of nearly four terms in the Senate, he is at his best, aides say, while "herding cattle" or keeping "the trains moving on time." His ability to hammer a legislative package through the Senate and into law often infuriates the progressive base that weeps for tougher, more principled, leadership. But it also endears him to those inside the Democratic caucus who appreciate the practitioner approach.

"They love him," said one high-ranking staffer, who has worked directly with Reid on reform. "He has a grip on them that is unbelievable. But this is a big moment for him. He has to hold the left and center. And then he was to worry about [Sen.] Olympia Snowe (R-ME). There is a lot at play."

Indeed, up to this point, Reid has navigated the health care reform debate by divorcing his personal preferences from his political judgments. Advisers say he still prefers a "public option" for insurance coverage. But he has never once drawn a "line in the sand" regarding the provision. Nor has he ruled out any alternative proposals, such as health insurance co-ops, that public option supporters oppose as ineffectual substitutes.

"Reid doesn't have the luxury that others do of making pronouncements without being able to back them up," said a senior Democratic aide involved in getting reform passed. "He has had to make sure that any deals made are actually going to get 60 votes."

On Tuesday, however, Reid's role changed from mere vote counter to primary author. The Majority Leader will meet as early as Wednesday with health committee chairman Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) and Finance Committee Chair Max Baucus (D-Mont.) to meld the health care bills from their respective committees. And as the three confer -- with a healthy dose of input from the Obama White House -- questions are buzzing up from the lips of political observers.

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For starters, how can Reid keep liberal members on board a bill that is supported by conservative Democrats and even the lone Republican, Snowe?

Aides with knowledge of how the inter-Senate conference will be constructed insist that the process will be delicate and inclusive. Reid knows he can't bring centrists like Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) into the room for fear of angering progressives like Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.V.). But he can and will make sure that party members are informed of changes made to their preferred pieces of legislation. All told, the conference is expected to last through the week and, perhaps, into the next, after which the bill will be debated, amended, scored by the Congressional Budget Office and sent out for a vote.

"This is going to be a frustrating process for those looking for answers," said a White House aide. "CBO is going to have to weigh in here and there, and that takes time."

But will the public option survive?

This may be Reid's toughest task. Progressives long ago made clear that they would not settle for a bill without the provision -- whose inclusion, conversely, seems likely to cost the party several conservative members. As debate hits the eleventh hour, the fear within the party is that Reid's deference to Baucus during the Senate Finance Committee's process will carry over into the inter-party conference.

"He has a reputation for tending to be incredibly deferential to his chairman," said one senior Hill aide. "And I think there has been a concern about taking too soft an approach with Baucus over the period of the summer when frankly some Republicans who were never going to vote for the bill slowed the process down to great cost. So the question now is really, how hard is he going to be on Baucus so that the bill is going to look, frankly, more like Dodd's? ... People think Reid's heart is with the left on this. It's a question of how tough he's going to get."

Those close to Reid refuse to comment on how hard he will press for the public plan or any of the alternate proposals, such as a trigger system or an opt-out clause for states. Aides on the Hill suggest that he might punt on these decisions -- producing a bill out of the conference that doesn't include a public plan (or variation of one) but with promises to have a vote on the floor to add it as an amendment to the bill.

"It is unlikely that legislation provisions that didn't make it into one of two bills will come out of a merger," said a senior Democratic aide. "It is more likely they will come on the floor."

Should that be the case it will certainly anger some within the party, including Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) who urged Reid to include the public option in the merger during an appearance on the Rachel Maddow Show Tuesday night. "It is clearly the right thing to do from a policy perspective even if it is hard from a political perspective," explained Karen Finney, a Democratic strategist.

But it also would be quintessential Reid, refusing to weigh in directly on the key provision in favor of putting it to the ultimate litmus test -- a Republican filibuster.

Complicating the role that Reid plays throughout the process are the politics of his reelection. The Nevada Democrat is in serious trouble, with a new independent poll showing him with a measly 38 percent favorability rating in the state and trailing two unknown opponents.

"He is seen as Obama's guy in the Senate and he is," explained Stu Rothenberg of the Rothenberg Political Report. "And the president is a polarizing figure. Some love him some hate him. And in the Mountain West there is a risk if you are looking like you are doing the party's business or Obama's business and not your constituents'. This is a problem for all majority leaders."

But it's not just an image problem Reid faces. The progressive community has also soured deeply on his leadership. The public option, for instance, is the preferred policy prescription of a vast majority of the party and even a plurality of the American public. Reid, however, has all but refused to press conservative caucus members to back the provision.

Reid allies say electoral politics are not on his mind when it comes to crafting health care reform. "You can't legislate scared," is a phrase offered by way of explaining the Senator's thinking.

But while he might not be frightened about the off-year elections, others in the party surely are. Passing health care reform, as Rothenberg posits, will invariable boost the position of Democrats as they enter 2010 -- providing them with a historical legislative achievement to which they can point. In turn, it may save their jobs as well as Reid's.

"Forget his obituary," said the one high-ranking staffer who has worked directly with Reid on reform. "Passing health care could determine his re-election. It's a written television ad ready for next year. If you are the guy who got reform through Congress, that's something to run on. And it's not too shabby."

With the Senate Finance Committee becoming the last of five congressional committees to pass health care reform legislation on Tuesday, the spotlight of the debate shifted sharply to the Majority Lead...
With the Senate Finance Committee becoming the last of five congressional committees to pass health care reform legislation on Tuesday, the spotlight of the debate shifted sharply to the Majority Lead...
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- Jesster I'm a Fan of Jesster 46 fans permalink
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I worry that Reid might be more focused and concerned about his next job (when he loses in his re-election bid) than in any Senate legacy.

I worry that he's daydreaming about following in Bernie Tarpzin's (sp???) footsteps, angling for employment as a high paid lobbyist.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 10/15/2009
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 340 fans permalink
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Rothemberg, whoever that is, doing the rights' bid. Obama is a "polarizing figure", for the rightwingers? of course he is. Doing the president's wishes and not his constituents? this tr0ll Rothember cannot read polls. 65% of the people want reform with a Public Option. So what is the tr0ll talking about? Geesh!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 10/14/2009
- Dale Larson I'm a Fan of Dale Larson 205 fans permalink
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INSURANCE COMPANIES TRIPLE DIP OUR WALLETS

In a way you have to be impressed by what Big Pharma and For-Profit Insurance has achieved.

They've managed to poison our politicians and the broader media. They've managed to entangle themselves everywhere.

They even gouge us with their side businesses...

For instance, you pay extra on your home owner's insurance in case somebody gets hurt on your property. Why? Because we don't have universal health care. Somebody has to go after you for their health care.

The same industry sells us both insurance policies! They have us coming and going.

What about Uninsured Motorist coverage. We wouldn't need it with universal health care.... Oh by-the-way, an insurance company sold you that coverage too!

They've dipped into our pockets three times all for the same FEAR! It's BRILLIANT!

I'm sure there are others examples of the insurance industry I haven't thought of.

Worker's Comp?

Where does it end?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 10/14/2009
- bbaker2580 I'm a Fan of bbaker2580 9 fans permalink
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first time i've seen this mentioned - good point

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 10/14/2009
- Jesster I'm a Fan of Jesster 46 fans permalink
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I think I'm too depressed to be impressed with Big Pharma & For-Profit Insurance - but I am impressed with Dale Larson for such an enlightening and seldom mention analysis of how we a screwed...

And how if we don't stand up and demand authentic change right now, it will never end, but we will.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 10/15/2009
- Solja I'm a Fan of Solja 117 fans permalink
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Hi,

After months of delay, the full Senate is about to debate and vote
on landmark health care legislation. But first, Senator Harry Reid and
Democratic leaders have a big decision to make:

Will the Senate consider real health care reform with a public health
insurance option, or a watered-down compromise full of giveaways to Big
Insurance?

I just signed a petition asking Sen. Reid to include a strong public
health insurance option in the Senate's health care bill. Will you join me
at the link below?

http://pol.moveon.org/harryreid/?r_by=17539-10101106-ahdaK0x&rc=comment_mailto

Thanks!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 10/14/2009
- LynnW49 I'm a Fan of LynnW49 28 fans permalink
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"And then he was to worry about [Sen.] Olympia Snowe (R-ME)."

For chrissakes, he does NOT.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 10/14/2009
- Chernynkaya I'm a Fan of Chernynkaya 649 fans permalink
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I wrote this yesterday, when most people here were thrilled by Snowe's vote: Her "Yes" vote could easily move the final bill towards the Right. She did progressives and those who are for a PO no favor.

"If she votes no, then the power center shifts from the middle to the progressive end of things inside the Democratic Party on this issue. But if she votes yes, then look for Reid to use the Finance Committee bill as the basis for the merged bill in the Senate" [NBC's First Read blog by way of Salon.com WarRoom]

Reid has stated he will try to keep her vote for the final floor vote. That's unconscionable.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 10/14/2009
- LynnW49 I'm a Fan of LynnW49 28 fans permalink
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"That's unconscionable."

Exactly right.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 10/14/2009
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Nonsense! Olympia Snowe is not the majority of the American People. Public Option is the platform of reform not entitlements to the Insurance Industry.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 10/14/2009
- RZoroaster I'm a Fan of RZoroaster 18 fans permalink
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Reid will make the right choice. They don't go out on a limb with things like this. He will talk to the centrist dems individually (or his people will talk to theirs) and he will know exactly how many people would support a public option under the given circumstances. If he can get enough, or close to enough support beforehand, he will include the public option. If he can't, he won't. Its that simple. He is a strong supporter of the public option and knows that the house can pass a public option, so he'll do it if its possible.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 10/14/2009
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This piece of sh*t better put the public option in the bill or else....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 10/14/2009
- jennylynn I'm a Fan of jennylynn 48 fans permalink

he won't

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 10/14/2009
- comicpro I'm a Fan of comicpro 41 fans permalink
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Hey harry: get it done and do the right thing. Anything less than a public option you are so last year.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 10/14/2009
- Lizaxyz I'm a Fan of Lizaxyz 23 fans permalink
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http://reid.senate.gov/contact/

Write and tell him that. It will only take a minute...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 10/14/2009
- comicpro I'm a Fan of comicpro 41 fans permalink
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Already did many times! He probably hs the FBI on my a_s right now!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 10/14/2009
- rkrenke I'm a Fan of rkrenke 24 fans permalink

It's my understanding that Reid can unilaterally include a public option in the final legislation and that it would take 60 votes to remove it. So, the Dems aren't being honest when they tell us they need 60 votes to pass the public option - if Reid did what he should, it would take 60 votes to override it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 10/14/2009
- RZoroaster I'm a Fan of RZoroaster 18 fans permalink
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That's incorrect. The final legislation that Reid negotiates will then need to be voted on by the entire senate. And the dems will need 60 votes to override a filibuster, which is an assumed threat. It indeed would take 60 votes to remove the public option from the legislation, but they still need 60 to pass the legislation.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 10/14/2009

Yes, but they would still need 60 votes to avoid a filibuster when it came time for a final vote on the bill.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 10/14/2009
- max hp I'm a Fan of max hp 181 fans permalink

An interesting comment by Schumer:

If Reid puts the Public Option in the bill, it takes 60 votes to REMOVE IT!

The 60 vote requirement works in favor of the Public Option, if only Reid would RECOGNIZE it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/33300415#33301639

WHAT THE HECK ARE THEY WAITING FOR ?

Lets ram it down the repugnants throats - soner or later they will sing the praises - just like they are for medicare - after over 40 years of its passage without any repugnant support.

Sen Harry Reid D NV - Phone: 202-224-3542 | Fax: 202-224-7327
Web: http://reid.senate.gov/ | Write: http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 10/14/2009
- RZoroaster I'm a Fan of RZoroaster 18 fans permalink
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Once again, this is a fundamental misunderstanding about how policymaking works. The senate has not yet voted on any bill!! They need 60 votes to pass whatever bill Reid produces. Then that bill is combined with the house bill, and then that bill still needs to be passed again by both the house and senate, with 60% in each. There are still a lot of votes ahead.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 10/14/2009
- Lizaxyz I'm a Fan of Lizaxyz 23 fans permalink
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Write to Senator Reid so he can feel the love
for a public option!

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/

No matter how you feel about him, he needs to hear from all of US.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 10/14/2009
- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 368 fans permalink

Something is amiss. Bush and his evil puppet master – Dick Cheney – lie to manipulate American patriotism to justify invading Iraq, and conservatives are silent. Bush inherits, then squanders a $759 billion surplus, and conservatives are silent. Bush appoints a horse trader to head FEMA, thousands die of thirst in the aftermath of Katrina, and conservatives are quiet. Bush guts the Geneva Conventions, authorizes torture, and conservatives are silent. Bush condones risky subprime mortgage derivatives, America dances on the precipice of economic annihilation, and conservatives are silent. Bush razes the Fourth Amendment, authorizes warrantless eavesdropping, and conservatives are silent. Bush signs $1.2 trillion Prescription Drug Bill, a federally subsidized give-away which balloons the deficit, and conservatives are silent. Bush diverts $1 trillion from the counter-terrorism struggle in Afghanistan, making America significantly less safe, and conservatives are silent. Bush signs unfunded NCLB legislation, the most intrusive Federal education law in history, and conservatives are quiet. Bush sends troops to war with no body amour, and conservatives are silent. Bush deregulation exposes 2.5 million children to toxic toys from China, and conservatives are silent. Birthers delegitimize the first black president, choosing instead to ignore 8 years of Bush inflicted plunder and ruination, and conservatives applaud. Obama talks to school children about being successful, conservatives cry foul. Bush rambles incoherently while addressing school children in Florida, and republicans anoint him God. Racism, bigotry, and hypocrisy: cherished planks in the republican platform.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 10/14/2009
- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 368 fans permalink

Similar to the infamous Lewin Group, republicans are a wholly owned subsidiary of the health insurance industry. While 66% of her constituents support a public option, Senator Blanche Lincoln opposes it. The answer is simple: Lincoln has received over $2.7 million in “campaign contributions” from corrupt insurance lobbyists. While 57% of Ohioans support a public option, Congressman John Boehner opposes it. The answer is simple: Boehner has received over $3.7 million in “campaign contributions” from corrupt insurance lobbyists. Rather than invest in the wellbeing of the average working-class American, republican whores have taken sides with their insurance industry pimps. Every Member of Congress pays approximately $530 per month for “gold option” family insurance coverage, which includes reasonable and affordable copays and deductibles. During a town hall meeting, republican Eric Cantor (R-VA) sarcastically told an uninsured woman with breast cancer to sell her house and seek charity; even crueler, Paul Brown (R-Georgia) told one of his uninsured constituents in need of life-saving maintenance medications to go to the emergency room. Every American should question why republicans don’t want them to have access to same health insurance options members of congress enjoy. Like Grassley said, “If you want government health insurance, then join the Army.” Bipartisanship is a republican myth. Boehner: picking big business over the interests of fellow Americans is Un-American, and I am ashamed to call you an American. Public option: 175 million Americans say yea, while 50 senators say nay.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 10/14/2009
- Lizaxyz I'm a Fan of Lizaxyz 23 fans permalink
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And yet WE pay for the congressmen's gravy-train health care entitlements!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 10/14/2009
- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 368 fans permalink

John “take the money” Boehner, the United States Senator from UnitedHealthcare.
Tom “where’s my check” Coburn, the United States Senator from Cigna.
Jon “no maternity care” Kyl, the United States Senator from Blue Cross / Blue Shield
Mitch “show me the money” McConnell, the United States Senator from Aetna.
Blanche “let’em eat cake” Lincoln, the United States Senator from WellPoint.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 10/14/2009
- Lizaxyz I'm a Fan of Lizaxyz 23 fans permalink
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Right on!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 10/14/2009
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