JPMorgan Earnings: Bank Posts $3.6 Billion Profit, Despite Big Loan Losses

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STEPHEN BERNARD | 10/14/09 07:18 AM | AP

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NEW YORK — JPMorgan Chase & Co. reported strong third-quarter earnings Wednesday as its thriving investment banking business more than offset rising loan losses that the bank warned would continue for the foreseeable future.

JPMorgan, the first of the big banks to report earnings for the July-September period, reported a $3.59 billion profit but also said it roughly doubled the amount of money it set aside for failed home and credit card loans in the quarter.

The bank's stock rose on the news, helping to lift the overall market and send the Dow Jones industrials above 10,000 for the first time in a year. Still, JPMorgan's performance shouldn't be taken as a forecast for how well other banks did during the quarter. Many financial companies don't have such big investment banking operations, which includes trading of stocks and bonds and allowed JPMorgan, the nation's largest bank by assets, to overcome its loan losses.

Bart Narter, a senior vice president at consulting firm Celent, said JPMorgan's results showed a clear trend that "Wall Street is picking up quite smartly, while Main Street continues to suffer."

Banks including JPMorgan have predicted for some time that their loan losses would keep rising. And in JPMorgan's earnings statement, CEO Jamie Dimon confirmed that this trend continues.

"Credit costs remain high and are expected to stay elevated for the foreseeable future in the consumer lending and card services loan portfolios," Dimon said.

In its earnings statement, the bank also described the economy's near-term path as uncertain.

The company said for the second straight quarter there are some signs of stabilization in delinquencies among consumer loans that are only recently past due. But Chief Financial Officer Mike Cavanagh said during a conference call with reporters the bank "can't at the moment be certain" that the trend will continue.

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JPMorgan may be able to raise its 5 cent per share quarterly dividend to as much as 25 cents if loan losses stabilize and the company's credit costs fall, Cavanagh said. The CFO said an increase could come early next year, but he again cautioned that's it too soon to know if the economy will recover enough to make a higher dividend possible.

Investors didn't seem troubled by the bank's dim credit outlook, and likely were more focused on the fact that big profits in divisions such as investment banking helped the New York-based bank earn 82 cents per share during the third quarter. Analysts forecast a profit of 52 cents per share.

JPMorgan said its investment bank net income came to $1.92 billion, up $1 billion from a year earlier as fixed income trading thrived.

The company's stock jumped $1.50, or 3.3 percent, to close at $47.16 Wednesday after hitting a 52-week high of $47.47 earlier in the session.

JPMorgan has been considered one of the strongest financial companies during the past year's turmoil. It has performed better than other large competitors in part because of its relatively light exposure to troubled subprime mortgages and commercial real estate. It was also among the first banks to repay government bailout money. On June 17, JPMorgan gave back all of the $25 billion it had received at the height of the credit crisis in 2008.

Its relatively stronger foundation than its competitors, which report results in the coming days, helped set JPMorgan up for a quarter that is likely to be among the best in the industry, analysts said. Citigroup Inc. and Bank of America Corp. are also scheduled to report earnings this week, followed by many other banks over the next two weeks.

"It's harder to come out when you're eight feet deep than when you're two," said Denise Valentine, a senior analyst at financial consulting firm Aite Group.

Still, the company is far from immune to the industry's problems. Traditional residential mortgages and home equity loans as well as credit cards continue to default at a rapid pace and that has eaten into JPMorgan's profits.

JPMorgan's loss provision to cover current and future home loan defaults jumped to $3.99 billion, while its provision for credit card losses surged to $4.97 billion.

Eric Schopf, a vice president at Hardesty Capital Management, said JPMorgan's aggressive additions to loan loss reserves throughout the downturn have also given it a leg up on the competition, which has lagged in adding to reserves.

Indeed, Cavanagh said that if the economy continues to recover and doesn't falter again, JPMorgan is probably close to reaching its peak loan-loss reserve levels.

Credit card defaults and mortgage losses are likely to continue rising and lag an overall economic recovery. Losses on credit cards typically mirror unemployment, which rose to 9.8 percent in September and which is expected to pass 10 percent in the coming months.

JPMorgan said the percentage of credit card loans it wrote off as not being repayable in the third quarter reached 10.3 percent of its total portfolio. Cavanagh said during a separate call with analysts that the card loss rate is expected to reach 10.5 percent in the first half of 2010 and could go higher depending on the unemployment rate.

Loan losses were also pushed higher by weakness in the portfolios JPMorgan acquired when it purchased the failed bank Washington Mutual Inc. a year ago.

Jeff Markunas, lead portfolio manager of the RidgeWorth Large Cap Core Equity Fund, said the severe weakness in the credit card portfolio could lower expectations for similar divisions at the banks reporting later in the week, while JPMorgan's strong investment banking profits could raise hopes for profits in the same divisions at competitors going forward.

Fixed income markets accounted for two-thirds of the investment bank's $7.51 billion in revenue. While the company's trading operations were strong, JPMorgan was also able to write up the value of some investments that have started to recover after souring during the peak of the credit crisis.

JPMorgan's fixed-income trading got a boost from investors still uneasiness about their own financial situations. Investors continue to flock to the relative safety of bonds, strengthening that market.

"The good thing at JPMorgan is you have a lot of different profit levers," Schopf said. "The diversity works to their advantage."

With credit quality still likely to be a problem into 2010, Markunas said the key is: "can they keep (investment) banking humming? The conditions are favorable, so they should."

Overall, JPMorgan generated $28.78 billion in revenue during the quarter, better than the $24.96 billion predicted by analysts.

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that's because they received Tarp money, modified a few and made another big chunk on foreclosures, yes, foreclosures are profitable !

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 10/21/2009
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I guess they are up. I would be too if I could get away with charging $35 for $5 in overdraft fees.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 10/15/2009
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This just reminds me of the old story of how "you can figure out what someone's going to do when they grow up, at age three."

Cutting straight to the punch-line (sorry):

Q: "What is two plus two?"
A: (glances around surreptitiously...) "What do you want it to be?"

"The truth is not in them." Not a shred of whatever such people say, no matter how smoothly they may say it, is to be believed. This is, of course, the very -definition- of what "securities fraud" (and "fraud" in general...) is, but this particular instance of Fraud has one important difference.

This instance of Fraud is perfectly capable of paying out millions of dollars A DAY in bribes to "civil officers" throughout our Federal Government ... "Article 2, Section 4 be damned."

And, I submit, the aforesaid "any civil officers" are getting precisely what they "paid" for: the fairy-tale of Rumpelstiltskin.

You cannot "make money" by merely proclaiming that you have it. And yet, this is precisely what they do. To conceal their utter folly, they loudly proclaim that their wisdom is beyond human ken.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 10/15/2009

Everyday the middle class get g0uged through stealth inflation

good articles; http://bit.ly/1NkbAn

banks keep reporting blowout earnings while everyone muddles along

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 10/15/2009

What is it like to work in a call center for a big bank?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 10/14/2009
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I work in a call center for a big bank and it is HORRIBLE!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 10/14/2009
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I can only imagine how unpleasant it is for you.
I am certain you become the recipient of much anger and hatred due to the conduct and practices of the "too big to fail." It is unfair and misplaced sentiment.

Rather than attacking the "little guy" who is just trying to earn a days pay and go home, we need to collectively focus our outrage toward our government in a very resounding manner and demand an end to their handouts to banks, inaction on regulation, and failure to apply the rule of law or accountability.

The root of the problem is our government; their enabling conduct and collusion.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 10/15/2009
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Austrian School I'm a Fan of Austrian School I'm a fan of this user 68 fans permalink
What do you think the ratio of 30-year olds living at home with Ma and Pa is for Democrats vs Republicans.

I'm saying 88% Democrat.

Enabling begins at home.

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If that's the case, then it looks like reality has made a f.o.ol of you again.

"The report shows that of the 32 states (and the District of Columbia) that are "winners" -- receiving more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes -- 76% are Red States that voted for George Bush in 2000. Indeed, 17 of the 20 (85%) states receiving the most federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Red States."

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 10/14/2009
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The problem of democracy:
No matter how smart I am, if there are enough of you id.iots who disagree, the id.iots win.

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Actually, everyone loses.

See: America, 2001-2008.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 10/14/2009
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New main

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 10/14/2009

I assert that JPMorgan Chase is sitting on tens of billions in non-performing real estate loans.

Their acquisition of WaMu estimated $31 billion in toxic assets, but further deterioration in the economy as well as Chase's inability to move non-performing loans through short sales, loan mods or foreclosures has further eroded the value of those mortgage-backed securities.

Are they carrying those assets on their books at face value? Reportedly, they don't have to mark them down with mark-to-market accounting, so zombie properties that look like $500,000 may be worth $300,000. But until the property is sold, they can claim $500,000.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 10/14/2009
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Politico

What's in a Maiden Lane name?
By EAMON JAVERS


There’s even a website for the original Maiden Lane, at www.maidenlanellc.com, which describes “a limited liability company formed to facilitate the arrangements associated with JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s acquisition of Bear Stearns Companies Inc.”

The Fed name “Maiden Lane” continues a long tradition of totally bizarre names for special financial vehicles. Remember Enron? There, executives created a host of odd names for their so-called special purpose entities, including Raptor I, Raptor II, Raptor III and Raptor IV; Chewco, named after the wookie Chewbacca from “Star Wars”; and Jedi, named for that movie’s heroic space knights.

At least “Maiden Lane” brings it back down to Earth

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 10/14/2009
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offtopic has a upgraded his avatar

unfortunately
the posts appear to be of the same quality

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 10/14/2009
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You know what you get with OT1.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 10/14/2009
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I f you want to debate, lets have at it.

Otherwise your nothing but a keyboard koward.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 10/14/2009
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When you make a mistake, don't look back at it long. Take the reason of the thing into your mind and then look forward. Mistakes are lessons of wisdom. The past cannot be changed. The future is yet in your power.
Hugh White

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 10/14/2009
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My point with all the quotes is that all politicians make mistakes when giving speeches or answering questions but if you are going to use that mistake as an example of their intelligence then you have to apply that across the board.

If B$sh was an _idiot_ for some of his mistakes when speaking so too is Obama and Biden and the rest of them.

And you all as well.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 10/14/2009
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W was consistently inane
what other president has needed a phonetic teleprompter?
really.....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 10/14/2009
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Fractional reserve banking is fiat money. We have already seen housing prices up and down relative to fiat money. The invisible hand is not free market capitalism under such monetary creation policy of a few. Drug dealers hardly pay attention to the no longer published M3.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 10/14/2009
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What?!!!

As you just stated, our money is fiat money. Which means it's value is determined by the Invisible Hand as well. Ever heard of the FOREX market? That's trading currencies. Because the value of currencies varies, just like anything else.

That's why the dollar is tanking right now. That's why Gold is spiking right now. That's what happens when a government prints money like it's going out of style.

Trust me. The price of drugs will go up because of inflation. But whatever the price becomes is determined by the Invisible Hand. It has to!

Don't you understand? If they price drugs too high, then people won't buy as much, and the dealers will have too much supply. To clear the supply they'll have to drop prices. Why is this so hard to understand?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 10/14/2009
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Fractonal reserve banking give banks the right to create more money than they actually have on deposit. It is not money printed by the government. AIG Financial Products Division created instruments that were ultimately covered by government created money (deficits). The creation of the original obligation became a covered obligation of the USFG and they bought into these institutions and now own a majority interest unwillingly. This is not free market capitalism, it is socialism and indebtedness for banking and the control of monetary policy and the value of the USD long before exchange rates come into play. The USD 40%+ drop against other currencies occurred long before the AIG and banking losses were covered by the creation of Treasury swaps (new debt) for stock control. Fiat money comes in different flavors.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 10/14/2009
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Bush really had no intelligence; they were an example of his lack thereof; much like yours.
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What are they examples of for Obama and Biden?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 10/14/2009
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We have all kinds of sentence structure there

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 10/14/2009
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I see you changed your avatar and your moniker Strega.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 10/14/2009
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Austrian -- Using vanishing cream instead of Jergen's lotion doesn't REALLY make your hand invisible.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 10/14/2009
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