Sweat Lodge Deaths Being Investigated As Homicides

FELICIA FONSECA   10/16/09 12:27 AM ET   AP

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PRESCOTT, Ariz. — The deaths of two people during a sweat lodge ceremony led by self-help expert James Arthur Ray are being investigated as homicides, authorities said Thursday.

Yavapai County Sheriff Steve Waugh said the deaths last week of Kirby Brown, 38, of Westtown N.Y. and James Shore, 40, of Milwaukee were not accidental.

"A combination of circumstances led to the deaths," Waugh said. "Whether or not we can prove a criminal case, that has yet to be determined."

Waugh said investigators are looking at the way the sweat lodge was built, the fact that people had fallen ill at previous sweat ceremonies led by Ray, and questionable medical care on site. Authorities have said a nurse hired by Ray was directing rescue efforts including CPR when emergency crews arrived.

Ray is the primary focus of the probe but others also are being investigated, the sheriff said.

Ray's spokesman, Howard Bragman, said the sheriff's use of "homicide" to characterize the investigation was irresponsible and a rush to judgment.

"I find it very interesting the police are trying to escalate the case in the media, and frankly, I think the escalation should be in getting the facts," he said. "We have one goal and that is to find out what happened so that it never happens again."

Ray led more than 50 people into a makeshift sweat lodge at a rented retreat outside Sedona on Oct. 8. After about two hours, Brown and Shore were pulled out. Nineteen other people were taken to hospitals, and one remains in critical condition.

"He's a motivational speaker who tried his hand at very dangerous physical things, and it was reckless," Brown's cousin and family spokesman Tom McFeeley said of the sheriff's announcement. "It doesn't surprise us in the least."

Sheriff's Lt. David Rhodes said investigators have spoken to most of the sweat lodge participants, but they're not sure how much of what they're hearing is accurate. It was pitch black inside the structure and possible that no one noticed that Shore and Brown were passed out, authorities said.

"You have two people who died in the presence of 50 other people in an environment in which no one seems to understand what happened," Rhodes said.

Ray declined to be interviewed by the sheriff's office on the night of the incident and has not spoken with Arizona authorities. He hired his own investigative team to determine what went wrong, and Bragman said that team and Ray's attorney are cooperating with the sheriff's investigators.

A search warrant was served Wednesday at Ray's Carlsbad, Calif.-based company, James Ray International. Deputies were looking for medical records of those attending the Sedona retreat, documents on the sweat lodge's construction and use, and any warnings of health risks, Waugh said.

The motivational speaker, author and self-help guru offers clients the promise of spiritual and financial wealth in his programs. The five-day "Spiritual Warrior" course during which the deaths occurred had about 50 participants who paid more than $9,000 each.

The culmination was the sweat lodge ceremony. Records obtained by The Associated Press on Tuesday showed local fire officials responded to the same retreat for a person who fell unconscious during a Ray-led sweat ceremony in 2005.

Ray held a telephone conference call with many of the sweat ceremony participants on Wednesday, according to people on the call. A recording of the call was made and transcribed by one of the listeners, said McFeeley, who also listened in and provided the transcript to the AP.

During the call, Ray stressed the importance of eating healthy food, exercising, resting, meditation and surrounding themselves with "like-minded individuals."

"Remember all that we've learned and experienced and knowing by law of the universe that out of every apparent chaos comes a greater state of order, an order that never existed prior to the chaos," he said, after asking those on the conference call to imagine themselves standing in a prayer circle.

Ray said he used the call as a way to provide closure to those attending the retreat outside Sedona, according to the transcript. Bragman confirmed the telephone conference was held.

Ray stopped short of apologizing to participants for not being at the Angel Valley Retreat Center the morning after the deaths, saying "I hope you understand it certainly wasn't my wish not to be with you and bring you some kind of closure."

Rhodes said he had no comment on the conference call, but said detectives have the transcript.

Fewer than a dozen callers were identified in the transcript, all of whom praised Ray and described his intentions as "pure" and their experiences as "profound." Cassandra Yorgey, a Pennsylvania columnist who also listened in on the call, said some of the people who were injured at the retreat participated in the call but their comments weren't included in the transcript.

Participants whose comments were included expressed sympathy for the families of the victims but suggested that the deaths of Brown and Shore were by choice.

"It breaks my heart to know that the families are suffering," said one caller identified as Brent. "I think that the people that left, I do believe they made their own choices, whether on this level or the next, but I do feel really for the families."

McFeeley said the comments on the call solidify his belief that Ray is controlling the people involved in his self-help program.

"There were reasonable people at this event, and it shows the power one man can have when you combine physical and mental mistreatment," McFeeley said. "Everything in this retreat seems to have been taken too far, and those statements were hurtful to hear and probably more hurtful to communicate them to the family last night."

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06:49 PM on 10/24/2009
Okay, so the Native Americans are 'primitive'; - they need to be changed, modernized, made to cut their hair, forced to not speak their dialects, and converted to Christianity. And, they should be relegated to the Reservations and left to live in poverty and disease because despite all these efforts at transforming them, they are still unfit to live amongst us – the members of ‘civilized’ society. But then, we can make millions by charging enormous amounts exploiting their ancient rituals, for conducting so-called 'self-improvement' retreats, calling them 'spiritual experiences'!
Oh! My my! Aren't we clever?
And, for the suckers who paid for these retreats: You cannot 'buy' self-improvement by attending any seminar or retreat for a week or more, and no one else can 'improve' you, even though they might claim that they can and that they are qualified to do so. The problem is that in today’s world, people think they can buy ‘everything’, including self-improvement. Self-improvement has to come from within yourself, and it usually does not cost anything, and needs only some introspection and a willingness and commitment to change.
05:26 PM on 10/22/2009
Every sweat I've been in-- and I've been in them many many times-- only entailed 4 rounds. A five gallon bucket of water over the rocks? that is crazy!! it is such an over-kill approach to a beautiful and powerful form of prayer-- typically ripped off and bastardized by this jerk. I was the only one of a sizable group of friends who rejected his tiny (also ripped off) book, and frankly I hope he is discredited permanently now. As a journalist and admirer of the Dalai Lama, I'd say "find what you are looking for inside yourselves." And truly folks does anyone really think it is all about money? How typically shallow of we Americans. When will we learn? But I am really sorry for the families of the deceased. They each sounded like they were exceptionally good people before they ever happened onto Ray. I am just sorry they couldn't see that in themselves and work with what they had instead of trying to be more, or have more, and thus become victims at the hands of an charlatan. That is sad.
07:06 PM on 10/19/2009
We have a sweat lodge next door to my home and the smoke that comes out of the fire is so great that we call the city we live in. So the sweat lodge is to clean out your body but our body is getting sick from the smoke. Plus because of lack of air in the sweat lodge you get high. So that great I got a lot of just high people next door. Just to many and all the parking is just nuts.
Please anyone help me with this!!!!
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03:23 PM on 10/16/2009
According to a recent article in "Indian Country" :

In 1993, so...me 500 representatives of the Lakota, Dakota and Nakota nations held an international gathering in South Dakota and unanimously passed the “Declaration of War Against Exploiters of Lakota Spirituality,” denouncing individuals involved in the New Age movement, shamanism, cultists, and neo-paganists and others who promote “intolerable and obscene imitations of sacred Lakota rites.”

“For too long we have suffered the unspeakable indignity of having our most precious Lakota ceremonies and spiritual practices desecrated, mocked and abused by non-Indian wannabes, hucksters, cultists, and self-styled New Age shamans and their followers,” the Declaration of War reads.
Selling the sacred has been around for a long time, and Ray is just the latest to capitalize on it.

Wilmer Mesteth, a traditional spiritual leader and Lakota culture instructor at Oglala Lakota College, told the summit that “sacred traditions like our Lakota Pipe ceremony, vision quests, sweat lodge ceremonies and the sundance were given to us by our Creator and have enabled Indian people to survive a 500 year holocaust. Those sacred traditions are precious to us and can’t allow them to be desecrated and abused.”

http://www.indiancountrytoday.com/opinion/64077357.html
08:33 AM on 10/16/2009
Having had the privilege of participating in Sweat Lodge Ceremony, this senseless tragedy is a call to acknowledge how broken are the hearts of our culture. To believe that one can purchase Spirit is sadly no different than believing one can purchase Love or Dignity or Peace or Wealth or Health or Goodness or, etc.
11:12 AM on 10/16/2009
Esalen Institute gives 500 workshops a year, there is big money in guiding people to reach there full potential. I personally laid on the beach in the middle of the night feeling my insignificance and waiting for God to come. He never showed up and in the morning I had a bad headache.
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Paul108
12:26 PM on 10/16/2009
If you were waiting for God to come, it sounds like you were feeling very significant.

One of the spiritual masters in the line I follow once said, "Don't try to see God; act in such a way that God will want to see you."
11:19 AM on 10/16/2009
The Catholics did it with indulgences....
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_the_sale_of_indulgences
08:32 AM on 10/16/2009
Nine thousand buck-dollars for a schvitz?

You're on your own...
11:00 AM on 10/16/2009
I'll stick with the steam room at the gym
05:01 AM on 10/16/2009
Why would it be any more than manslaughter? It's obvious that no one said out to deliberately kill anyone.
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09:47 AM on 10/16/2009
Manslaughter is homicide - a person killing another person. But I think what you really mean is involuntary manslaughter, which is still homicide.

Indications are they are looking at this as negligent homicide, i.e. the deaths were the result of "carelessness, inattention, neglect, or willful blindness" by the operator of the sweat lodge who had an affirmative obligation to provide for adequate safety.

But that has to be investigated. It's the only way to determine whether there IS probable cause *and* sufficient evidence to charge someone.
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starlita
03:20 AM on 10/16/2009
Sounds like another haole hijacking the sacred rituals of someone else's culture without actually going to learn from that culture first. Sweat Lodge ceremonies differ between tribes. There is no absolute one way to do it amongst all of the many Indian tribes out there, but one thing is for sure, you don't use plastic tarps to cover the lodge. I would think that would be common sense, but then again, having to pay someone thousands of dollars for spiritual knowledge or healing doesn't make sense either.
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12:27 AM on 10/16/2009
A heart surgeon told me that hot hoga is very bad for the heart.... hoga is good; but not HOT....
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Keeping My Gratitude Higher Than My Expectations..
02:07 AM on 10/16/2009
Its also not good for your lever & kidneys.
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02:07 AM on 10/16/2009
Liver or Kidneys
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karela
09:46 PM on 10/15/2009
I don't know what happened in that sweat lodge, but fasting and prayer before and time spent in the sweat lodge have not harmed me during the many times I have participated in a sweat and have been a great spiritual blessing to me. However------they had way too many people in the sweat and if they covered the lodge with things that could release toxins when hot, those are big mistakes. When I go to a sweat lodge I prefer one that is led by an Ojibway medicine woman. Statements such as surround yourself with "like minded individuals", may sound strange to others in the same way that much of the Bible would sound very strange to people of other faiths. Many churches encourage their members to surround themselves with other Christians. This is the same. It isn't brain washing. It's along the same lines as it's easier to stay on your diet with friends who eat healthy than with friends who are pigging out on fattening meals and desserts. I don't know anything about this man, but I do know that I have spent many sacred hours in the sweat lodge and it has helped me greatly. I wouldn't want to see legitimate sweat lodge ceremonies curtailed generally. It's important to find out just exactly what happened. My guess? Improper tarps covering the lodge that had chemicals that were released into the hot and enclosed area with too many people breathing and not enough fresh air.
10:13 PM on 10/15/2009
Let me remind you you can survive this treatment
many times however you only die once.
Have a nice day!
12:31 AM on 10/16/2009
You obviously don't know anything about the sweat lodge. People have heart attacks during football games, too.
10:40 PM on 10/15/2009
Cult.

Churches are cults too. Just older and, if Catholic, better dressed.
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GatoPreto
09:37 PM on 10/15/2009
The Sweat Lodge, arguably humanity's earliest healing ceremony, is powerful medicine indeed, yet the Sheriff here is clutching at straws. What's the charge... possession of sage with an intent to smother?
11:14 PM on 10/15/2009
How 'bout negligent homicide? People had fallen ill in the past and the facility had questionable medical care. Not to mention the fact that this guy did not have any training to run a sweat lodge. From the story, it seems like there may be a case.

The families will at least have civil recourse, that's for sure.
11:31 PM on 10/15/2009
Also there are reports the building wasn't built with the proper permits nor built to the specfications one that size would need to operate safely.

Not building a sweat lodge properly can cause people to die same with spas and pools.
11:50 PM on 10/15/2009
How does severe dehydration through fasting and sweating cure people? I thought increasing fluids flushed out toxins.
12:09 AM on 10/16/2009
When I used to participate in sweat lodges we filled up on water before hand because we wanted to flush out toxins via perspiration.
12:39 AM on 10/16/2009
You're using "cure" in the allopathic sense. A real sweat lodge may work very well for some kinds of physical ailments (it can be great for arthritis) but the purpose is more holistic and there's a big spiritual component. There's a good explanation of much of this in Wallace Black Elk's book--I don't remember the title--or Hammerschlag's "The Dancing Healers."

Taking the sweat lodge out of its traditional context is like trying to practice acupuncture without the proper training. It's a really bad idea.