Sanders Begs Obama: Help Keep Dems United Against A GOP Filibuster

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First Posted: 10-20-09 03:58 PM   |   Updated: 10-20-09 05:22 PM

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President Obama should lobby individual Senate Democrats to make sure they don't join Republicans in filibustering health care reform, Sen. Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent who caucuses with Democrats, told HuffPost Tuesday.

His plea comes amid frustration on Capitol Hill that Obama has yet to take charge of the health care debate, even as support for the public option surges. "It's not in his DNA to do the prescriptive lobbying on the details here and I'm not going to try to change his style at this stage. We'll take what--he's certainly made it clear he wants this bill done and his people are sitting in all the meetings," said Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.). "I'm not going to second-guess the president. He's been very successful to date."

Senior White House health care aide Nancy-Ann Deparle huddled with Senate Democrats Tuesday for the weekly caucus lunch and Obama's campaign operation bombarded the Capitol with phone calls in support of health care reform, but the president has so far refused to actively lobby individual members.

"I would hope that he would remind every member of the Democratic caucus that the function of the Republican Party -- which the American people are very clearly seeing -- is obstructionism and is saying no in the midst of a terrible, terrible health care crisis. So what the president -- and all of us -- should be asking is every member of the Democratic caucus to vote yes to stop Republican filibusters," said Sanders.

"And if later on," Sanders said, "people in the Democratic caucus -- a few of them and they're a minority; I don't know how many there are: two, three, four -- choose to vote against the public option later on, let them do so."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) and Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) are merging two bills passed by committees led by Dodd and Baucus. Dodd's includes a public health insurance option; Baucus's doesn't.

The strategy advocated by Sanders -- pressuring Democrats not to join a GOP filibuster - underscores the importance of including a public option in the bill that emerges from the current negotiations.

That bill will need 60 supporters to proceed to a vote on the floor, where it can be amended. It's harder for a Democrat to oppose leadership on the entire bill than it is to oppose a single amendment.

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"Well, you'll need 60 votes, but there's a big difference between voting not to proceed on a bill -- voting cloture -- and trying to [defeat] an amendment. That's a big difference, at least for many of us. That's why I'd like to see as much in the [merged] bill as possible," Cardin, a supporter of the public option, told HuffPost.

To thread the needle, Reid could put the public option in the merged bill and persuade the few Democrats who oppose it not to block the entire bill.

"I think that the leader is sensitive to the fact that the overwhelming majority or our caucus supports the public option. And I think he is trying to figure out a way to bring that forward without jeopardizing the necessary votes to move this bill forward," Cardin said.

That's where Obama's support could be most valuable, Sanders said. "How if you are the Democratic Party presenting your bill, do you say no to over 80 percent of the people in your own party and expect there to be grassroots support for real health care reform?" he said, referencing sky-high poll numbers for the public option among Democrats.

Sen. Mary Landrieu (La.), one of the very few Democrats on record against the public option, said that she'd rather not join a Republican filibuster. "I'm not right now inclined to support any filibuster," she told HuffPost.

The refusal of the GOP to participate meaningfully in negotiations has soured her on joining them in a filibuster. "For the Republican Party to kind of step out of the game is very unfortunate," she said. "I'm not going to be joining people that don't want progress."

Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), another public option foe, said it's too early to embrace the strategy laid out by Sanders and others. "I believe in playing chess, but that's about three moves ahead of me, and I'm not prepared to make those moves until I see some other moves in between," he told HuffPost.

Without a public option, Reid might need to keep Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) in the fold, given the stand taken by Sen. Roland Burris (D-Ill.). He said Tuesday, repeating threats he had made earlier, that he "absolutely" would oppose any bill that did not have a real public option. "That's what my constituents have asked me to do," said Burris. State-based alternatives were no substitute, he said, adding that he has advised leadership of his position.

Sanders declined to follow Burris' lead just yet. "We're playing it day by day," he said.

Reid was asked Tuesday if he was leaning toward including or not including a public option in the merged bill. The group is "leaning toward talking about a public option. No decision has been made," he teased, saying that his team had "not a long discussion last night on the public option."

The gang of three meets again Tuesday evening in Reid's office. HuffPost asked White House spokesman Robert Gibbs at his daily gaggle how active Obama would be in those negotiations. "I think the folks on Capitol Hill, based on the speech the president gave on Capitol Hill, know where he stands," Gibbs said.


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Spoiler alert...the admittedly socialist member of the Senate is for the Socialist health care plan. I am sure that you are all shocked.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 10/30/2009
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I think it might be a shrewd decision by Obama not to jump in on this before the real negotiations start. The possibility of any Dem defecting in favor of the filibuster seems extremely remote, so the risk isn't alarming. And the perception that Congress, not the POTUS, pushed this through might go a long way toward restoring faith in congressional Dems among their own constituents. I see his restraint (or reluctance) as consistent with his general pattern of avoiding self-aggra­ndizement. If (when) the reform passes, the Party gets the accolades -- which does the Dems enormous good while doing Obama little harm.
I don't think he'll even need to weigh in on MedicareE, though I doubt he'll be able to resist.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 10/21/2009
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Has there ever been an instance of any member of Congress actually crossing the aisle to join a filibuster by the opposing party?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 10/21/2009
- iblogleft I'm a Fan of iblogleft 86 fans permalink
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I think the President will have to publicly ask that all democrats in the party be united is this. This may be the trump card, or Obama may just refuse to take a stand.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 10/21/2009
- greihing I'm a Fan of greihing 2 fans permalink
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"We're playing it day by day.." ??

I think now is the time Bernie that everyone needs to put the pants on and step to the plate.

I think you are an asset we need. Now is the time to let your voice be heard because we, your supporters, are talking.

As for me an ER nurse of 20 yrs...

I support single payer option for the following reasons. In 2007, 62% of bankruptcies was due to medical bills. Unemployment has double since 12/07 to 9.8 with no increase in job market until 2014 according to some economists. !n 12/07 - 7.6 mil to 15.1 mil as of 9/09. (Bureau of Labor Stats)

Poor people have used the ER since 1983 when I started. It's not cost effective. With SPO, they can have access to a primary doctor. By direct pay to the doctor, you bypass the millions of administrative bureaucrats who siphon off the revenue.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 10/21/2009
- bluemike I'm a Fan of bluemike 5 fans permalink

The president has a brilliant mind. So why is he voting present? Perhaps waiting for the crucial moment. Hope his timing isn't off.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 10/21/2009
- spacecreep I'm a Fan of spacecreep 43 fans permalink

it's time that we give Obama's white house staff the credit that they deserve.... they are constantly writing speaching iensuring that they get they information right... deatailed breifing so obama can answer questions on any subject..keeping focus while being blasted and criticized each day by fox news... remaining united.. being intellegent and hard working, being young and invovled....who else has put together a whitehouse staff that could have handled all these problems and no quit and gone into the EAP program

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 10/21/2009
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Baucus, Reid and Nelson better take another look at the polls and ask themselves if they think they'll still be welcome in OUR country when they ignored at least 2 out of 3, if not 3 out of 4, of OUR citizens in the National Health Care debate - to protect insurance company profit$?

WE WANT a non-profit public option available to ALL citizens that want to have it - NOW!
NOT 3 years from now!

By Harvard studies 3 years of waiting kills another 135,000 people - for the insurance claim-denial killers. Do these Senators REALLY want their legacy to forever be they SOLD OUT The People for big-business?
VERY sad...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 10/21/2009
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ITS YOUR PRIMARY ISSUE 0BAMA and you sit back and let the PAID POLITICIANS CONTROL RESULTS!

We need Leadership on Medicare Choice/Option for ALL and it is time for you to do the DEMOCRACY THING after all 57% in WAPO suppport it and 73% of Doctors support Medicare for ALL!

Not for 5% of Americans but for ALL Americans! And why NO "FREE CHOICE" so far! Competition and Choice!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 10/21/2009
- max hp I'm a Fan of max hp 146 fans permalink

It's time to step up and take the bull by the horn. This is the issue that defines his way forward.

I want to see arms twisted, some cracking bones and plenty of black eyes and bruised faces. I want him swinging left and right till there is nobody left standing. I want him to take no prisoners. Call out ALL the repugnants and opponennts for the hypocrits they are. It's not just time to draw the line in sand but write the bill in stone.

Am I pissed? You betcha!

It's time to get this show on the road. It's not your legacy we are talking about, it's THE PEOPLES' BUISNESS. The People gave you the majority in the House; they gave you the majority in the Senate and they gave you the WH. They gave you everything you need. They did their part.

IT"S TIME YOU DID YOURS. Dammit, I want results and I want results NOW.

IT"S TIME TO DELIVER.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 10/20/2009
- Mikeatle I'm a Fan of Mikeatle 16 fans permalink
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Great post! Fanned.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 10/21/2009
- TeeLolly I'm a Fan of TeeLolly 46 fans permalink

It's not just the people's business--for many, it's their lives.

I can't understand how Spineless Harry can ignore that fact--particularly with 57% of the public in favor of a public option--and choose not to risk bringing to the floor a bill that might be filibustered, or choose to just accept a representation that at least 40 Senators intend to filibuster without making them actually do it, or choose to do anything other than have an up-or-down vote on a good bill with a public option. Who knows--after a couple of weeks of debate, someone might get tired of filibustering ...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 10/21/2009
- arlandbaee I'm a Fan of arlandbaee 32 fans permalink

I am so tired of our politicians. Everyone must now realize that they DO NOT work for us, and sometimes they don't even work. It's amazing how little some of them know about our health care system even after 6 or 7 months of debate.

Why hasn't a single media company sent a news team to France or Britain or even Canada for an in depth investigation into their health system? They can send someone to Colorado to cover the balloon boy but they can't send someone to Canada to gets some facts? I understand why Fox news doesn't but I don't understand why CNN or NBC doesn't.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 10/20/2009
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Bernie...I'm begging you now...PLEEEEEEASE run for president.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 10/20/2009

The fact that Roland Burris is coming out so strongly for the public option is surely a good sign. Given how he came into the senate he's got to get behind something popular, and he knows that the PO is it... Maybe some other senators will make the same political calculations. He's got the least to lose, and he can afford to be strident, but I'm sure they all see the same writing on the wall.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 10/20/2009

Burris is a joke in the Senate but all votes do count.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 10/20/2009
- max hp I'm a Fan of max hp 146 fans permalink

He's got NOTHING TO LOSE.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 10/20/2009
- sviolette I'm a Fan of sviolette 75 fans permalink
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If this legislation doesn't get passed you can only blame yourself. You haven't shown the will to fight for healthcare insurance reform so blame no one but yourself. It's easy to blame the republicans or the blue dogs. You only need to look in the mirror to find the real obstructionists.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 10/20/2009
- RightsGuy I'm a Fan of RightsGuy 21 fans permalink

So get going and contact your legislators!

Only a single-payer approach to healthcare reform will END THE INHUMANITY OF OUR FAILED HEALTHCARE INSURANCE SYSTEM, WHERE PROFITS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN PATIENTS’ HEALTH, AND WHERE PEOPLE DIE BECAUSE OF IT.

Single Payer Healthcare Reform bills are before Congress.

ASK your Representatives to:

• Support Rep. Weiner’s HR 676 single payer, Medicare for All amendment

• Retain Rep. Kucinich's state single-payer amendment

ASK your Senators to

• Vote yes on S. 703, the American Health Security Act -- This is Senator Bernie Sanders' bill.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 10/20/2009
- sviolette I'm a Fan of sviolette 75 fans permalink
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This is what I'm talking about. You say ask your rep and to ask your senator. You have to TELL them what you want not ask as if you are begging for something. You have to demand what you want. Maybe you haven't noticed but the only ones getting heard in this debate are the ones that are yelling at the town halls calling Obama names and using pictures of him as Hitler to get their points across. They are the ones getting the oil (squeeky wheel). We aren't demanding single payer or even a public option. I've had people tell me it does no good to protest because no one will listen. Well who is it that's getting heard these days but the ones that are protesting the loudest. You will get nothing if you don't demand it. The people sitting around telling their families and friends what they want are going to be the ones still telling their families and friends what they want because begging for it won't do a thing for you. Being too lazy to demand single payer will not get you anything.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 10/21/2009

Sounds great. The problem is that Little o is not really a leader. He works best only when he can bully people.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 10/20/2009
- sviolette I'm a Fan of sviolette 75 fans permalink
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An example?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 10/20/2009

I have a very different take on it. To me it seems that President Obama believes strongly in separation of powers. This would follow from his Constitutional expertise. He believes that Congress should formulate laws and he should enforce them. He doesn't feel that it is his place to shape the laws, but rather to formulate policy and ask Congress to create laws to support that policy.

Unfortunately, where I feel he has had too much sway over Congress is in the area of bipartisanship. His insistence on bipartisanship, in theory, would be good because all sides and interests would be considered. But Congress is dysfunctional. It is currently incapable of being bipartisan for many reasons.

In hindsight, we would have been better off if he gave more "fleshed out" policy directives and had let Congress work however it can, bipartisan or not.

As far as being a bully, Obama is anything but. He is a very strong leader who challenges everyone to take part in improving the world. He is not one to give direct orders to those he has no direct authority over.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 10/20/2009
- windup I'm a Fan of windup 21 fans permalink

Why to you think Rahm is one of the 4 people behind closed doors deciding what gets in the bill?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 10/20/2009
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